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thechitowncubs
11-03-2008, 01:34 PM
Can anyone point me to important authors... I've got these on my mind so far:

Ayn Rand
Murray Rothbard
John Locke
Thomas Jefferson
Ron Paul


Any other ideas... I will be evaluating how the anti-state, libertarian culture has evolved over history.

danberkeley
11-03-2008, 02:03 PM
Can anyone point me to important authors... I've got these on my mind so far:

Ayn Rand
Murray Rothbard
John Locke
Thomas Jefferson
Ron Paul


Any other ideas... I will be evaluating how the anti-state, libertarian culture has evolved over history.

Anti-state culture? You mean the PRO-FREEDOM culture? :D

skinnyskittles1989
11-03-2008, 02:09 PM
ludwig von mises

thechitowncubs
11-03-2008, 02:11 PM
Anti-state culture? You mean the PRO-FREEDOM culture? :D

truth over rhetoric ;)

Kludge
11-03-2008, 02:11 PM
John Stossel!

Shotdown1027
11-03-2008, 02:15 PM
You're going to need to find the originators of the culture. Auberon Spencer, Lysander Spooner, Benjamin Tucker (all pre-1800). More recently, in the 1920s-1960s you've got Garet Garrett, Albert Jay Nock, HL Mencken, Rose Wilder, and Isabel Patterson

Andrew-Austin
11-03-2008, 02:18 PM
Frederick Bastiat. To get more names, check out the "must read books" thread in general politics.

thechitowncubs
11-03-2008, 02:21 PM
Thanks everyone!

AbolishTheGovt
11-03-2008, 02:32 PM
Eugen von Boehm Bawerk
Jörg Guido Hülsmann
Joseph Salerno
Robert Higgs
Walter Block
Israel Kirzner
Albert Jay Nock
Lysander Spooner
Hans-Hermann Hoppe
Lew Rockwell
F. A. Hayek
Carl Menger
Murray Rothbard
Ludwig von Mises
Frédéric Bastiat

wizardwatson
11-03-2008, 02:45 PM
Eugen von Boehm Bawerk
Jörg Guido Hülsmann
Joseph Salerno
Robert Higgs
Walter Block
Israel Kirzner
Albert Jay Nock
Lysander Spooner
Hans-Hermann Hoppe
Lew Rockwell
F. A. Hayek
Carl Menger
Murray Rothbard
Ludwig von Mises
Frédéric Bastiat

I've been starting to read Albert Jay Nock lately. Very cool stuff.

danberkeley
11-03-2008, 02:48 PM
Eugen von Boehm Bawerk
Jörg Guido Hülsmann
Joseph Salerno
Robert Higgs
Walter Block
Israel Kirzner
Albert Jay Nock
Lysander Spooner
Hans-Hermann Hoppe
Lew Rockwell
F. A. Hayek
Carl Menger
Murray Rothbard
Ludwig von Mises
Frédéric Bastiat

In other words, thechitowncubs has a lot of reading to do. :D

Shotdown1027
11-03-2008, 02:50 PM
Read "Our Enemy, The State" By Nock---it's awesome.

wizardwatson
11-03-2008, 03:25 PM
Read "Our Enemy, The State" By Nock---it's awesome.

For Free! http://mises.org/etexts/ourenemy.pdf

Xenophage
11-03-2008, 03:41 PM
Robert A. Heinlein

Read "The Moon is a Harsh Mistress"

Deborah K
11-03-2008, 04:11 PM
You may want to give some thought to adding a couple of authors whose writings on the subject of 'a state culture' have been prophetic. Such as: Aldous Huxley - 'Brave New World'
(1932)and George Orwell - 'Nineteen Eighty Four' (1949) and 'Animal Farm' (1946).

Both authors understood that neither science nor politics was enough. Both knew that the "debasement of man begins with the debasement of his principal means of communication, with the manipulation of language." (Ashley Montagu).

"Doublespeak", "doubletalk", and "doublethink" have already come to us under an all too familiar a guise. And Huxley's predictions of "soma" or tranquilizers (anti-depressants) used to control the masses, is today a mulitmillion dollar industry. And we all know that Orwell's 'Big Brother' has made great progress in the world by way of bugging, wire-tapping, data banks, security checks, FBI files, surveillance systems, and so on.

Their novels were designed to warn us of the way the world of humanity might go, unless we took the steps necessary to prevent it. So really, this 'anti-state culture' as you call it, has been around for a while....

tangent4ronpaul
11-03-2008, 04:23 PM
Edward Abby:

"If you refuse to pay unjust taxes, your property
will be confiscated. If you attempt to defend your property,
you will be arrested. If you resist arrest, you will be
clubbed. If you defend yourself against clubbing, you will be
shot dead. These procedures are known as the Rule of Law"

-t

MsDoodahs
11-03-2008, 04:37 PM
Wendy McElroy

http://wendymcelroy.com/news.php

Joe Sobran

http://www.sobran.com/

Chieftain1776
11-03-2008, 06:19 PM
I recently finished Brian Doherty's Radicals for Capitalism....it's quite the tome but may be perfect for what your looking for. Brian Doherty is I believe an anarchocapitalist and is a Senior Editor at Reason. Just took a look at his wikipedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brian_Doherty_(journalist))page and I am starting to feel his way about voting. http://radicalsforcapitalism.com/.

Also here's a bloggingheads.tv "diavlog"(A great site btw with at least 5 or 6 libertarians who appear regularly...unfortunately no LvMI ones) with him discussing the book with another libertarian Will Wilkinson who appears weekly (usually Sunday I believe) http://bloggingheads.tv/diavlogs/342

But going to the sources is fun, I enjoyed "For a New Liberty" and "Ethics of Liberty" by Rothbard. "Road to Serfdom" by Hayek is a mainstream classic. Also, and this is a little off topic but "Liberal Fascism" by conservative Jonah Goldberg. He shows how liberals/progressives from Woodrow Wilson to FDR to the present have sought and utilized the state in fascistic ways and said writing the book made him more libertarian.

Sorry for the long response but I would again heartily recommend Radicals for Capitalism which has the most extensive bibliography I've seen. Also here's a great set of bibliographies from the lewrockwell.com (http://www.lewrockwell.com/biblios.html) with David Gordon on Liberty being the most extensive.

Enjoy!

AutoDas
11-03-2008, 07:26 PM
Anthony de Jasay
http://www.econlib.org/library/Columns/Jasay.jpg
Wikipedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anthony_de_Jasay)

Destutt de Tracy
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/c/cc/Destutt_de_Tracy.jpg
Wikipedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Destutt_de_Tracy)

Henry David Thoreau
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/b/ba/Henry_David_Thoreau.jpg/200px-Henry_David_Thoreau.jpg
Wikipedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Henry_David_Thoreau)

thechitowncubs
11-04-2008, 01:54 PM
You may want to give some thought to adding a couple of authors whose writings on the subject of 'a state culture' have been prophetic. Such as: Aldous Huxley - 'Brave New World'
(1932)and George Orwell - 'Nineteen Eighty Four' (1949) and 'Animal Farm' (1946).

Both authors understood that neither science nor politics was enough. Both knew that the "debasement of man begins with the debasement of his principal means of communication, with the manipulation of language." (Ashley Montagu).

"Doublespeak", "doubletalk", and "doublethink" have already come to us under an all too familiar a guise. And Huxley's predictions of "soma" or tranquilizers (anti-depressants) used to control the masses, is today a mulitmillion dollar industry. And we all know that Orwell's 'Big Brother' has made great progress in the world by way of bugging, wire-tapping, data banks, security checks, FBI files, surveillance systems, and so on.

Their novels were designed to warn us of the way the world of humanity might go, unless we took the steps necessary to prevent it. So really, this 'anti-state culture' as you call it, has been around for a while....

So interesting, thanks.

Deborah K
11-05-2008, 02:33 PM
So interesting, thanks.

You're welcome! :) On a side note, in my opinion, fiction can sometimes have a much greater effect on society than can non-fiction. Take for example, Harriet Beecher Stowe's book: "Uncle Tom's Cabin". Her novel exposed the cruelty of slavery and aided greatly in turning the tide in favor of the abolition movement.

DSouthChi
11-05-2008, 06:54 PM
Some credit Lao Tsu as being the first anti-state libertarian