So. Are you patriots ready to be blamed for McInsane's loss?

[wgadget]

I know it's coming.

[lodge939]

McCain never had a chance ever since Lehman failed.

[New York For Paul]

Ron Paul types have been quiet. If we were never a factor, how can we be a major factor now for the loss of McCain?

[wgadget]

My 70-ish mother is all in knots because I told her I voted third party. She says we'll divide the party....LOL Kinda too late for that.

[RevolutionSD]

I know it's coming.

It will probably be mentioned in the msm but this is a good thing. This means the message of liberty is strong. I hate obama and won't be voting at all, but I hope Mccain gets crushed. He NEEDED the libertarian vote to challenge obama, and he completely rejected our support.

So F mccain and just enjoy his going down in flames. Hey, we have to enjoy SOMETHING in this election!

[wgadget]

It will probably be mentioned in the msm but this is a good thing. This means the message of liberty is strong. I hate obama and won't be voting at all, but I hope Mccain gets crushed. He NEEDED the libertarian vote to challenge obama, and he completely rejected our support.

So F mccain and just enjoy his going down in flames. Hey, we have to enjoy SOMETHING in this election!


Aren't there any LOCAL issues you should be voting on? Don't you have a Congressman who voted for the bailout that needs to be discarded?

These are the same things I asked my father, who has also decided to sit it out.

[New York For Paul]

McCain refused to go on the Rush Limbaugh show and mike Savage show. These two shows have twenty million voters.

McCain holds grudges against these guys.

Call him John the careless.

http://www.jewishworldreview.com/cols/will103008.php3

[tajitj]

I want them to blame us. That way Dr. Paul, and Bob Barr can go on all over TV and spread our message of reclaiming the GOP. They have to realize why millions did not vote for Mccain.

I think if it is a blowout conservatives will never realize why they lost.

[muzzled dogg]

lmao

i wish a muthaphukka would try to blame me for suttin

[Aratus]

why didn't the hunkered and bunkered down veep demi~urge not hug
sen. mccain when our potus bush didst and did? weeks or months ago...:D

[hopeforamerica]

My answer to that stupid claim: If I couldn't vote 3rd party this year, I would not vote at all. It's not like I would EVER vote for McCain, so how can he blame me for his loss? He is not worthy of my vote, nor is Obama.

[TheTyke]

Hey, I just got back from sign waving for voting third party (Baldwin especially). I hope the Republican chairman saw me! :D

[ProBlue33]

Only if Obama takes Montana by the difference of Ron Paul voters and it costs McCain in a close election

[tremendoustie]

I am ready and willing to be blamed for the loss of a neocon who wishes to continue to maintain troops in most of the world, pursue an aggressive, immoral, and violent foreign policy, steal money from the taxpayer and hand it to big banking, restrict people's freedom of political speech, fail to protect our borders, and send us further into debt. Sign me up!!

[ClockwiseSpark]

They nominated him. They can place the blame where it belongs, on their shoulders.

[Dorfsmith]

I have some family who are already blaming me. I told them yep, McCain is going to lose because of me. You can't call me a nut, kook, and crazy person for supporting Ron Paul and then expect to count on my vote. I'm a man of principle...not a team spirit sheep. Needless to say, they are not happy with me at all.

[JohnJay]

Only if Obama takes Montana by the difference of Ron Paul voters and it costs McCain in a close election


This and the fact that we learned all about the real McCain during the GOP debates -
and the Republican Party chose to ignore us and go for a "quasi-liberal" who was even considered by John Kerry as a VP running mate in 2004.

We should be proud that McCain and "Freedon is Authority" Giuliani didn't get elected after all,
if we all had anything to do with it so much the better for what we saved the nation from.

[ronpaulhawaii]

My view of our group has seen supporters from across the spectrum. For every vote we have taken from the naval disgrace, we have taken another from the illegal alien.

Personally, I went tht votepact way and my partner and I canceled each others vote.

Any sour grapes deserve a trophy

http://i209.photobucket.com/albums/bb19/mkauai/GOPsoreloser.png

[BeFranklin]

I know it's coming.

Yes, I even have a statement:


The reason we lost (note the we: we are all Republicans) is McCain snubbed a sizeable portion of our party, all the traditionally conservative Reagan supporters (note: reaching out to a broader base in Republican Party). Even though they tried to help McCain, he wouldn't even let Ron Paul speak at the convention, nor acknowledge that they were running half the Republican convention over on the other side of town!

McCain split the party, and 4 years before that was trying to run as a Democrat candidate.

[BeFranklin]

They nominated him. They can place the blame where it belongs, on their shoulders.

I support this message :)

[paulitics]

McCain has done more damage to conservativism than almost any Democrat I can think of. As far as where he stands, I see him as a hawkish John Kerry, or maybe even to the left of him. I mean come on, global warming, univ health care, socailizing finacial markets,the immigration fiasco? He is more like a Democrat or socialist plant, only he doesn't even hide his true intentions.

I can't stand the Sean Hannity types that will swear McCain is a conservative just because he is pro war, and SAYS he won't raise taxes.

The conservatives in this country pay more attention when there is a Democrat in the white house.

[BeFranklin]

Proverbs 23:13-14: "Withold not discipline from the child, for if you strike and punish him with the (reed-like) rod, he will not die. Thou shalt beat him with the rod, and shalt deliver his soul from hell."

Foolishness [is] bound in the heart of a child; [but] the rod of correction shall drive it far from him. Proverbs 22:15

Chasten thy son while there is hope, and let not thy soul spare for his crying. Proverbs 19:18

I'm not going to change what I think for all their crying. Tell some more people to vote for principle and what is right.

[bojo68]

Personally, after all the crap the neocons pulled, and seem to think they can get by with, I believe it's more than time light their posterior up. They don't learn any other way then losing. They CERTAINLY DON'T LISTEN. So, I feel it is the obligation of all of us that aren't trolls to stick it to them. Only when they learn the hard way that their garbage won't wash will anything change.
So, YEP, BRING IT ON, McCain/repubs failed because they refused to listen to US. If my dog craps in the house, she gets scolded, and it's McCain/repubs turn to be scolded, they don't learn any other way.

[trapfive]

I know it's coming.

Man you got that all wrong...

Are you patriots ready to TAKE THE CREDIT for McInsane's loss?

Yep...

[ghengis86]

Man you got that all wrong...

Are you patriots ready to TAKE THE CREDIT for McInsane's loss?

Yep...

i will definitely take credit for his loss!

[LibertyEagle]

I have some family who are already blaming me. I told them yep, McCain is going to lose because of me. You can't call me a nut, kook, and crazy person for supporting Ron Paul and then expect to count on my vote. I'm a man of principle...not a team spirit sheep. Needless to say, they are not happy with me at all.

:)

[Minuteman2008]

McCain, the supposed "maverick", beat himself in this election by not opposing the bailout. That was a dream opportunity for him to set himself apart and truly act conservative. The nation would have gotten behind him. But as usual, he lacked the courage to act, and displayed the obvious fact that he's an empty suit. To hear him talk about cutting pork while he voted for an $850 billion monstrosity of a bailout bill is a ridiculous joke.

After winning the primaries, McCain also forgot all about border security, taking GOP voters for granted while running Spanish language ads promising "comprehensive" immigration reform AKA amnesty and immigration acceleration. Even after doing so, he's only getting about 25% of the Hispanic vote. McCain is too stupid to know you can't outpander the Democrats. If McCain wanted my vote, he went about it the wrong way. I'll never vote for a man who cosponsors a bill with Sen. Kennedy which would be the largest increase in the welfare state in the nation's history (McCain-Kennedy).

The very people McCain needs votes from, he has ignored, while the people who aren't ever going to vote for the GOP to start with, McCain courts. I hope a lesson is learned this election.

Patriots didn't defeat McCain. McCain did.

[ProBlue33]

Anybody who says one word to me about a McCain loss, or any other Ron Paul supporter. I have a message for them.

Respect, you gave us none at the RNC and in most primaries and at state level.
You shall receive none in return for your arrogant stupidity.
You deserve to lose.

[Pauls' Revere]

They nominated him. They can place the blame where it belongs, on their shoulders.

Spot on!
:)

[dr. hfn]

die GOP! die!

[Pauls' Revere]

I'm laughing at all the rats jumping the GOP ship. Saving thier jobs during the election cycle this is joke!
LOL
IMPLODE GOP!
IMPLODE!

[Anti Federalist]

Obama/McCain, It's All the Same...

Foreign Policy
- Both support an aggressive, interventionist foreign policy
- Both support the "Bush Doctrine" of preemptive war on sovereign nations
- Neither support scaling down the enormous expenditure of policing and occupying the world by closing any one of the 700 bases we have in over 140 countries worldwide
- Both will expand the war in Iraq into Afghanistan, Pakistan and Syria
- Both will expand U.N.

Operations worldwide
- Both pay lip service to our continued support of Israel, while not mentioning the fact that we give 3 times as much monetary aid to its enemies
- Neither has mentioned the idea of not sending any monetary aid to other countries while the People of America suffer the consequences of a $1 trillion deficit and a $10 trillion + debt
- Both took an offensive stance against Russia, while supporting Georgia, the true aggressors in the Russian/Georgian conflict.. and of course neither has talked about just staying out of the situation all together
- Neither has taken anything, including a preemptive nuclear strike, off the table when dealing with Iran
- Neither support the humble, non-interventionist foreign policy that our Founding Fathers prescribed

Domestic Policy
- Both support the Patriot Act
- Both support the Violent Radicalization and Homegrown Terrorism Prevention Act
- Both will increase Federal spending
- Both support the expansion of our borders 100 miles inland effectively creating a "Constitution Free Zone" that encompasses 2/3 of all Americans
- Neither plan to abolish any one of the unconstitutional or redundant departments of the Federal government
- Both support the militarization of our police
- Both support the construction of hundreds of FEMA controlled detention camps across the US
- Neither plan on reinstating the Constitutional principle of property rights as a way of combating pollution
- Both support amnesty for illegal immigrants
- Both support the North American Union
- Both support NAFTA, CAFTA and the WTO as opposed to truly free trade
- Neither support the 10th Amendment of our Bill of Rights by continuing the many unconstitutional programs and laws that do not fall under the authority of the Federal government
- Neither support a healthcare or education system controlled by the People as opposed to government bureaucracies and corporations
- Neither support states' rights in regard to drugs, education, abortion or marriage
- Neither support an un-infringed 2nd amendment

Economy
- Both support the unconstitutional Federal Reserve System
- Both support the redistribution of wealth via inflation
- Neither support free market solutions to our current economic situation
- Neither support Article 1 Sections 8 and 9 of the Constitution by continuing the confiscation of the People's money, gold and silver, in place of a FIAT currency system
- Both support an increased influence of such global government entities as the IMF and world bank
- Both supported the $850 billion+ Wall Street bailout bill
- Both support expanding government intervention in our market
- Both support the income tax and 16th amendment
- Neither have alternative plans for the future of welfare programs such as Social Security, Medicare and Medicade but will both continue or even expand these programs that are bankrupting our nation

Miscellaneous
- Both have accepted hundreds of thousands of dollars from banks, major corporations and lobbyists
- Both are supporters of the globalist Council on Foreign Relations
- Neither support continued investigations of the events of 9/11/01
- Neither believe in strict adherence to the Constitution
- Neither support holding charges against or the impeachment of President George W.

Bush for his blatant disregard of our Constitution and his breaking of so many laws thereof and international treaties
- Neither will grant full pardons to Ignacio Ramos or Jose Compean
- Both of their vice-presidential candidates plan to use more power than is vested in them by the Constitution
- Both believe the United States to be a Democracy as opposed to the Constitutional Republic that the Constitution and our Founding Fathers intended

[New York For Paul]

The pathetic Ken Duberstein, pathetic Colin Powell, pathetic Christopher Buckley and others for supporting Obama.

[moostraks]

Weren't/aren't we still just a couple of spammers is our parents basement? I thought we were a mighty insignifigant lot of fools???

[muzzled dogg]

Obama/McCain, It's All the Same...

Foreign Policy
- Both support an aggressive, interventionist foreign policy
- Both support the "Bush Doctrine" of preemptive war on sovereign nations
- Neither support scaling down the enormous expenditure of policing and occupying the world by closing any one of the 700 bases we have in over 140 countries worldwide
- Both will expand the war in Iraq into Afghanistan, Pakistan and Syria
- Both will expand U.N.

Operations worldwide
- Both pay lip service to our continued support of Israel, while not mentioning the fact that we give 3 times as much monetary aid to its enemies
- Neither has mentioned the idea of not sending any monetary aid to other countries while the People of America suffer the consequences of a $1 trillion deficit and a $10 trillion + debt
- Both took an offensive stance against Russia, while supporting Georgia, the true aggressors in the Russian/Georgian conflict.. and of course neither has talked about just staying out of the situation all together
- Neither has taken anything, including a preemptive nuclear strike, off the table when dealing with Iran
- Neither support the humble, non-interventionist foreign policy that our Founding Fathers prescribed

Domestic Policy
- Both support the Patriot Act
- Both support the Violent Radicalization and Homegrown Terrorism Prevention Act
- Both will increase Federal spending
- Both support the expansion of our borders 100 miles inland effectively creating a "Constitution Free Zone" that encompasses 2/3 of all Americans
- Neither plan to abolish any one of the unconstitutional or redundant departments of the Federal government
- Both support the militarization of our police
- Both support the construction of hundreds of FEMA controlled detention camps across the US
- Neither plan on reinstating the Constitutional principle of property rights as a way of combating pollution
- Both support amnesty for illegal immigrants
- Both support the North American Union
- Both support NAFTA, CAFTA and the WTO as opposed to truly free trade
- Neither support the 10th Amendment of our Bill of Rights by continuing the many unconstitutional programs and laws that do not fall under the authority of the Federal government
- Neither support a healthcare or education system controlled by the People as opposed to government bureaucracies and corporations
- Neither support states' rights in regard to drugs, education, abortion or marriage
- Neither support an un-infringed 2nd amendment

Economy
- Both support the unconstitutional Federal Reserve System
- Both support the redistribution of wealth via inflation
- Neither support free market solutions to our current economic situation
- Neither support Article 1 Sections 8 and 9 of the Constitution by continuing the confiscation of the People's money, gold and silver, in place of a FIAT currency system
- Both support an increased influence of such global government entities as the IMF and world bank
- Both supported the $850 billion+ Wall Street bailout bill
- Both support expanding government intervention in our market
- Both support the income tax and 16th amendment
- Neither have alternative plans for the future of welfare programs such as Social Security, Medicare and Medicade but will both continue or even expand these programs that are bankrupting our nation

Miscellaneous
- Both have accepted hundreds of thousands of dollars from banks, major corporations and lobbyists
- Both are supporters of the globalist Council on Foreign Relations
- Neither support continued investigations of the events of 9/11/01
- Neither believe in strict adherence to the Constitution
- Neither support holding charges against or the impeachment of President George W.

Bush for his blatant disregard of our Constitution and his breaking of so many laws thereof and international treaties
- Neither will grant full pardons to Ignacio Ramos or Jose Compean
- Both of their vice-presidential candidates plan to use more power than is vested in them by the Constitution
- Both believe the United States to be a Democracy as opposed to the Constitutional Republic that the Constitution and our Founding Fathers intended
props on this

[Anti Federalist]

props on this

Can't take credit. It's Time came up with that. Good list though.

[MelissaCato]

Well, if McCain wins I hope he doesn't want a recount. We will loose the "loophole", though. :cool:

Seriously, if Obama wins we loose our guns. Bye Bye Second Amendment.

+1776

[Zera]

Well, if McCain wins I hope he doesn't want a recount. We will loose the "loophole", though. :cool:

Seriously, if Obama wins we loose our guns. Bye Bye Second Amendment.

+1776

Pretty sure he can't go against the Supreme Court at this point.

[PatriotOne]

McCain was the turd in the pool that the GOP shat. I just got out of the pool.

[slacker921]

Can't take credit. It's Time came up with that. Good list though.

Time made that list?... the only place I could find it on the web was on godlikeproductions.com

...edited. duh.. "It's Time (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?t=165947)" - as in a member here.

[american.swan]

Only if Obama takes Montana by the difference of Ron Paul voters and it costs McCain in a close election

I'd love that to happen.

[fj45lvr]

I could care less.

the GOP in the state it is in needs to die and hopefully not ever be resurrected.


Pat Buchanan stated it well: "If Obama wins, the country could be in real trouble. And if he loses, the country could be in real trouble."


I won't shed a tear for the TREASONOUS bastards of either party.

[klamath]

Funny thing I was talking to a friend of mine and he was furious about the bailout and was wishing Romney had won. This got me thinking about all the republicans that ran and I did a search.
McCain obviously supported the bailout.
Romney; supported
Rudy; supported
Huckabee; against
brownbeck against
Hunter; against
Thompson F; against
Thompson T; against?
Paul; against.:D

The republicans picked one of the worse three.

[Mini-Me]

Funny thing I was talking to a friend of mine and he was furious about the bailout and was wishing Romney had won. This got me thinking about all the republicans that ran and I did a search.
McCain obviously supported the bailout.
Romney; supported
Rudy; supported
Huckabee; against
brownbeck against
Hunter; against
Thompson F; against
Thompson T; against?
Paul; Supported

The republicans picked one of the worse three.

I think you have a minor error in your list. :eek:
;)

[pepperpete1]

The only coverage of us as a movement (Ron Paul Supporters) that has been aired is about RP's popularity in Montana, and then not enough so that the masses have seen it.
It won't be until after he loses that they will be looking around for excuses.
It couldn't be Acorn, or all the $'s that Obama spent on ads, or just that his platform was not strong enough.

But, yeah, bring on the blame. I will smile and smile and smile, until Obama gets sworn in on the Koran.

I agree with the list that Aniti Federalist brought to the thread.

[PlzPeopleWakeUp]

nt

[ProBlue33]

When we warned them.
Continue to treat us like crap and cheat, and we will campaign against you.
They knew the parameters, and they made their choice.

Therefore, the only people to blame is the inept controlling establishment in the republican party who made the choices that they did.

Bring on the blame, I got a mirror for them to look in.
Time to FIRE THEM ALL for being so inept.

In reality, the ran a dead horse, on purpose. They tried to lose. On purpose.
Why the hell else would they of chosen John McCain?? Are they retarded??

Amen/ QFT

[klamath]

I think you have a minor error in your list. :eek:
;)

Ha! I wanted to see how long it took someone to see that:D Now I better edit that before some fool believes it.