For those of you conspiracy theorists out there who think CFR runs the world ...

[Rivington Essex]

CFR today posts this even handed report today.


“When a thousand Republicans are in a room and one man of the eight on the stage takes a sharply minority viewpoint on a dramatic issue and half the room seems to cheer him, something’s going on.”

[Electric Church]

The CFR is compartmentalized. Not all the membership is aware of the purpose of the CFR set up by its founder. Many members just think it’s a prestigious club.

[constituent]

Read

THAT HIDEOUS STRENGTH

by C.S. Lewis.

[glts]

"The smart way to keep people passive and obedient is to strictly limit the spectrum of acceptable opinion, but allow very lively debate within that spectrum - even encourage the more critical and dissident views. That gives people the sense that there's free thinking going on, while all the time the presuppositions of the system are being reinforced by the limits put on the range of the debate."-Noam Chomsky

[beermotor]

The CFR doesn't control the world, policy does. And where does bad policy come from?

The CFR (among other places).

It's a conspiracy, all right, a conspiracy of stupidity.

[Keith]

Read

THAT HIDEOUS STRENGTH

by C.S. Lewis.

One of my favorite books of all time.

[Colleen]

A very highly effective stupidity, is it not, Beermotor.

[Wendi]

I really hope the OP was shooting for sarcasm...

[angelatc]

http://www.newsmax.com/headlines/cia_hayden_warning/2007/09/07/30766.html?s=al&promo_code=39AB-1

CIA Director Hayden Warns of New al-Qaida Attacks


In a rare public address CIA Director Gen. Michael Hayden warned of new attacks by al-Qaida: "Our analysts assess with high confidence that al-Qaida's central leadership is planning high-impact plots against the U.S. homeland."


But here's the thing - did he make this address before Congress? Did he address the 50 governors? The military? Nope.


Hayden's unusual public address was made at his request at the Council of Foreign Relations.

[max]

CFR today posts this even handed report today. CFR is a non partisan think tank where people discuss foreign policy, not make it.

Finding the Base on Iraq
Posted on Friday, September 7th, 2007 by Robert McMahon

Sen. John McCain (R-AZ) is back from the dead. That was the big takeaway of most media scoring the debate of Republican presidential candidates in New Hampshire on Wednesday night. Pundits found McCain sharp, witty, and, most of all, steadfast in his support of the troop surge in Iraq. Like many observers, the Weekly Standard’s Fred Barnes seized on McCain’s insistence that the U.S. troop buildup in Iraq is working in an exchange with Mitt Romney, who used qualifying language to describe the “surge.”

But it is difficult to see how this will help a McCain campaign widely seen as hobbled because his main constituency—independent Republicans—is disillusioned by the Iraq war. Peggy Noonan addressed this in a Wall Street Journal online column today, noting the applause that greeted Ron Paul in his call at the debate to “bring our troops home, defend our country, defend our borders.” Noonan wrote:

“When a thousand Republicans are in a room and one man of the eight on the stage takes a sharply minority viewpoint on a dramatic issue and half the room seems to cheer him, something’s going on.”

CFR’s Peter Beinart sees the rift among Republicans as a chief reason for front-runners Rudy Giuliani and Mitt Romney remaining elusive on just how much they support President Bush’s Iraq policy. The heated debate on the surge in the coming weeks will likely put more pressure on them to commit to a clear-cut Iraq policy, he writes in TIME:



So??? They mentioned Ron Paul's name. And on the basis of that you're saying what?

If I were to point out that a mass murderer once bought girl scout cookies from a little girl...does that make him a decent guy?

[lucius]

Read

THAT HIDEOUS STRENGTH

by C.S. Lewis.

I just picked up off amazon for $0.01 with $3.99 shipping--thanks for the prompt!

[constituent]

you will enjoy it...

p.s. i enjoy your posts very much and am glad we have you around

c.s. gets a little messianic w/ his character ransom, but it is such and
important book and makes an excellent statement about where we
find ourselves now...

please please please, post your thoughts.

[lucius]

you will enjoy it...

p.s. i enjoy your posts very much and am glad we have you around

c.s. gets a little messianic w/ his character ransom, but it is such and
important book and makes an excellent statement about where we
find ourselves now...

please please please, post your thoughts.

Thank you! I enjoy being part of this tribe immensely. Our forum crashes, we can go to another forum and yet we are all still the same. I have found agreement and accord with almost all who post here, even SeanEdwards. Dr. Paul supporters are the most intelligence and amazing of individuals--the fire of creativity burns brilliant in these threads. We are blessed; we are part of a true revolution--this type of lightning doesn't strike every generation... :D

[Electric Church]

even SeanEdwards.
:eek:

[lucius]

:eek:

Yea, right here, extremely astute:


You might be right, but let me ask you something. Did the neocons embrace the Goldwater/libertarian republicans? I don't think so. I think at most the current crop of GOP leaders made placating noises to the small government conservatives, while actually following a radically socialist policy.

Paul is leading the fight to recapture the GOP from the neocon socialists who currently hold it. Just as many small government conservatives were forced out of the GOP by the neocons, a successful Paul campaign will ultimately drive the neocons out of the party, or at least into the shadows where libertarian republicans have had to dwell for so many years.

I don't particularly care about converting or co-opting the message of the neocon warmongers. I'm quite content to see them follow their failed ideology into political irrelevance.

In any case, it's not really up to us. Paul is who he is, and he clearly isn't going to modulate his message to woo the statist warmongers, and that's one of the most appealing things about the man. I think we should just stay positive and enthusiastic about Paul, and let Paul speak for himself about the issues. If the medveds of townhall can't recognize a quality candidate when they see one, then to hell with them. I'd just politely say "I'm for Paul", and move on.

[Electric Church]

Yea, right here, extremely astute:

hmmmm....could be a stand-in.
:cool: