Much to the dismay of Neocons here McCain will be crushed in this election HAHAHAHA

[Cleaner44]

Note to all of you Neocon McCain lovers here:
McCain will lose this election. He will lose badly. Probably the largest landslide loss for a Republican since 1964. This will hopefully be the begining of the end for Neocon rule within the GOP.

If you support McCain then you support:
Liars
Flip Floppers
Corruption
Morons
Big Govt
Big Deficits
Big Debt
Bailouts
Communism
Fascism
War
etc...

You can stop trying to get liberty lovers to vote for McCain, it is not going to happen. Now if you really believe in McCain I suggest you make a large bet with any anti-McCain American and be prepared to pay up bitches! :D

[LibertyEagle]

Note to all of you Neocon McCain lovers here:
McCain will lose this election. He will lose badly. Probably the largest landslide loss for a Republican since 1964. This will hopefully be the begining of the end for Neocon rule within the GOP.

If you support McCain then you support:
Liars
Flip Floppers
Corruption
Morons
Big Govt
Big Deficits
Big Debt
Bailouts
Communism
Fascism
War
etc...

You can stop trying to get liberty lovers to vote for McCain, it is not going to happen. Now if you really believe in McCain I suggest you make a large bet with any anti-McCain American and be prepared to pay up bitches! :D

What is there to celebrate? Your list can also be applied to the Obamaites, you know.

[Dr.3D]

What is there to celebrate? Your list can also be applied to the Obamaites, you know.

Exactly, Obama isn't any better. One clown or the other will win and everybody will be in the same boat they were in before the election ever took place.

Obama neocons are no different than the McCain neocons except they say bahhh better.

[Dieseler]

How about just us plain old conservatives?
Are you laughing at us too?

[dannno]

How about just us plain old conservatives?
Are you laughing at us too?

Only if ur supporting McBush.

[Dr.3D]

If you support Obama then you support:
Liars
Flip Floppers
Corruption
Morons
Big Govt
Big Deficits
Big Debt
Bailouts
Socialism
Communism
Fascism
etc...

[micahnelson]

It is not rational to celebrate the death of the man holding a gun to your head, when he was murdered by the man with a knife to your back.

-Micah

[dirknb@hotmail.com]

It's irrelevant whether McCain or Obama wins, they are both owned by the same people.

[Dieseler]

I find it hard to believe that anyone here on these forums should be laughing about our situation unless of course they are a fucking closet communist.

[Dr.3D]

I find it hard to believe that anyone here on these forums should be laughing about our situation unless of course they are a fucking closet communist.

Good point!

[Dieseler]

Good point!

Thank you.
The vein is bulging again.

[dannno]

So only communists have a sense of humor :confused:

You can laugh at a situation without being happy about it.

Personally, I wanted Ron Paul and free markets to win out this election.

[Dr.3D]

Thank you.
The vein is bulging again.

Yeah, the ignorance around here is stifling.

[dannno]

Yeah, the ignorance around here is stifling.

Would you say Ron Paul is ignorant for not coming out and supporting McCain?

[Dr.3D]

Would you say Ron Paul is ignorant for not coming out and supporting McCain?

I could ask if you would you say Ron Paul is ignorant for not coming out and supporting Obama.

Anybody who would support either one of those two idiots is ignorant.

Edit: Thus, anybody who celebrates the win of either one of them is also an idiot.

[werdd]

i find it hard to believe that anyone here on these forums should be laughing about our situation unless of course they are a fucking closet communist.

qft.

[Dieseler]

The picture in your signature breaks my fucking heart Doc.
Theres nothing funny about this shit.

[Dr.3D]

The picture in your signature breaks my fucking heart Doc.
Theres nothing funny about this shit.

No there is nothing funny about it. Thus you must understand how Ron Paul is different from the rest of those neocon idiots. They are all the same!

Edit:
http://i249.photobucket.com/albums/gg202/DrThreeDee/NotLikeTheOthers.jpg

Just look at all of those clowns gathered together congratulating each other about how they are going to do what ever they want to do.
All the while, Ron Paul isn't standing with them.

[Dieseler]

Neocons aren't the only thing I see in that picture.
We've been had.

[chudrockz]

I could ask if you would you say Ron Paul is ignorant for not coming out and supporting Obama.

Anybody who would support either one of those two idiots is ignorant.

Edit: Thus, anybody who celebrates the win of either one of them is also an idiot.

I do not support either idiot. And I will definitely NOT celebrate the likely Obama landslide. I WILL, however, gain modest satisfaction at McInsane's big loss.

The GOP might have had a chance if they had nominated Ron Paul.

[Dr.3D]

Neocons aren't the only thing I see in that picture.
We've been had.

That's right, there is one who isn't a neocon.

[Liberty Star]

It seems that most neocons have now joined McCain camp but Obama himself has shown amazing capacity to grovel before and become puppet of pro war racist groups like aipac.
If Obama is being seen as a serious improvement over McCain, there must be too much naive optimisim in the air while many people look desperately for change.

[dirknb@hotmail.com]

I do not support either idiot. And I will definitely NOT celebrate the likely Obama landslide. I WILL, however, gain modest satisfaction at McInsane's big loss.

The GOP might have had a chance if they had nominated Ron Paul.

The GOP and the Democratic Party are controlled by the same people. Ron Paul is their enemy. They would never nominate their enemy.

[Dr.3D]

It seems that most neocons have now joined McCain camp but Obama himself has shown amazing capacity to grovel before and become puppet of pro war racist groups like aipac.
If Obama is being seen as a serious improvement over McCain, there must be too much naive optimisim in the air while many people look desperately for change.

Well, I understand his wife is a member of the CFR.

[heavenlyboy34]

If you support Obama then you support:
Liars
Flip Floppers
Corruption
Morons
Big Govt
Big Deficits
Big Debt
Bailouts
Socialism
Communism
Fascism
etc...

Obama's speeches don't seem to imply support for fascism. More like Socialism to affect the ends of communism. (I admit I don't listen to all he says, tho)

[heavenlyboy34]

The GOP and the Democratic Party are controlled by the same people. Ron Paul is their enemy. They would never nominate their enemy.

+1

[Dr.3D]

Obama's speeches don't seem to imply support for fascism.

So what do you call a person who would try to ban firearms?

[Andrew-Austin]

I find it hard to believe that anyone here on these forums should be laughing about our situation unless of course they are a fucking closet communist.

This thread is specifically about people who have a false hope in a McCain presidency versus an Obama presidency, when they really should know better.

And no its not funny. But we've had enough annoying McCain shills (blatant spammers IMO) to cause people to pretend its funny seeing their completely baseless hope rejected.

[Cleaner44]

What is there to celebrate? Your list can also be applied to the Obamaites, you know.

The death of Neocon rule of the GOP!

Who cares about Democrats? Ron Paul is not a Democrat and we have no plans to reform their party.

[Cleaner44]

Exactly, Obama isn't any better. One clown or the other will win and everybody will be in the same boat they were in before the election ever took place.

Obama neocons are no different than the McCain neocons except they say bahhh better.

Exactly. We are screw without Ron Paul as our President so the next best thing is a quick death to this Neocon version of Republicans. If 1996-2006 has not proven their ineptness to all Republican voters then they are just stupid.

[Cleaner44]

How about just us plain old conservatives?
Are you laughing at us too?

If you are a conservative in the vein of Ron Paul, Barry Goldwater and Robert Taft then I salute you.

[MRoCkEd]

I do not support either idiot. And I will definitely NOT celebrate the likely Obama landslide. I WILL, however, gain modest satisfaction at McInsane's big loss.
Ditto

[Cleaner44]

If you support Obama then you support:
Liars
Flip Floppers
Corruption
Morons
Big Govt
Big Deficits
Big Debt
Bailouts
Socialism
Communism
Fascism
etc...

Obama supporters will have their problems but that will is yet to be seen. I would probably cross Fascism off of the list.

[Cleaner44]

It's irrelevant whether McCain or Obama wins, they are both owned by the same people.

It is relevant to me because I want to see us seize control of the GOP from Neocons. First we need to see the epic failure that is McCain. Then we can step into the void.

Once America sickens themselves on Socialism, we will be there with Ron Paul values to offer a solution.

[MRoCkEd]

maybe he will have a change of heart
are you implying that he has a heart?

[Cleaner44]

I find it hard to believe that anyone here on these forums should be laughing about our situation unless of course they are a fucking closet communist.

Ron Paul will not be our next President, sad but true. The next best thing is to watch America completely turn its back on Neocon Republicans. We will then be in position to offer a real solution after the voters see that Democrats are a failure too.

[MRoCkEd]

Ron Paul will not be our next President, sad but true. The next best thing is to watch America completely turn its back on Neocon Republicans. We will then be in position to offer a real solution after the voters see that Democrats are a failure too.
I hear you; it's just tough to cheer on a mccain loss when it requires an obama win.

[Cleaner44]

So only communists have a sense of humor :confused:

You can laugh at a situation without being happy about it.

Personally, I wanted Ron Paul and free markets to win out this election.

It will be up to us and others like Dr. Lawson to provide leadership as an alternative to the Obama socialism.

[Cleaner44]

I could ask if you would you say Ron Paul is ignorant for not coming out and supporting Obama.

Anybody who would support either one of those two idiots is ignorant.

Edit: Thus, anybody who celebrates the win of either one of them is also an idiot.

Exactly. Now Obama will win and we will pick up the pieces of the shattered GOP.

By we I mean me and other Ron Paul supporters, not Neocon McCain supporters on this site.

[Cleaner44]

No there is nothing funny about it. Thus you must understand how Ron Paul is different from the rest of those neocon idiots. They are all the same!

Edit:
http://i249.photobucket.com/albums/gg202/DrThreeDee/NotLikeTheOthers.jpg

Just look at all of those clowns gathered together congratulating each other about how they are going to do what ever they want to do.
All the while, Ron Paul isn't standing with them.

True, true. This is why many Hillary voters are also able to support McCain.

[Cleaner44]

I do not support either idiot. And I will definitely NOT celebrate the likely Obama landslide. I WILL, however, gain modest satisfaction at McInsane's big loss.

The GOP might have had a chance if they had nominated Ron Paul.

The GOP was too stupid to accept Ron Paul and now they will pay the price. Ron Paul is the ONLY one that could have defeated Obama. Our time will come out of this. Like a Phoenix rising from the ashes, the Ron Paul Revolution will rebuild the GOP!

[Cleaner44]

It seems that most neocons have now joined McCain camp but Obama himself has shown amazing capacity to grovel before and become puppet of pro war racist groups like aipac.
If Obama is being seen as a serious improvement over McCain, there must be too much naive optimisim in the air while many people look desperately for change.

It is simple really. Neocons have shown that that are utterly useless and America sees no choice but to run to Democrats. They will learn that the socialist Democrats will just bring a different set of problems. Democrats will not deliver peace, prosperity or freedom.

[Cleaner44]

The GOP and the Democratic Party are controlled by the same people. Ron Paul is their enemy. They would never nominate their enemy.

And our only hope is to take over the GOP. Down with Neocons and bring in the Ron Paul Revolution!

[Cleaner44]

This thread is specifically about people who have a false hope in a McCain presidency versus an Obama presidency, when they really should know better.

And no its not funny. But we've had enough annoying McCain shills (blatant spammers IMO) to cause people to pretend its funny seeing their completely baseless hope rejected.

True and it is disgusting to see those that pretended to be freedom fighters turn and support the same old Neocon politicians. Just look at what happen during the RNC. Too many Ron Paul delegates gave in and voted for McCain. That is the difference between Ron Paul and McCain. Ron Paul still has never voted for a tax increase while McCain admits he went to Washington to change things and Washington changed him.

Ron Paul has not changed, he is steady and consistent. A man of principal.

[Cleaner44]

I hear you; it's just tough to cheer on a mccain loss when it requires an obama win.

Keep the big picture in mind. This help our cause and is the only hope we have of restoring our Republic.

[dirknb@hotmail.com]

Exactly. Now Obama will win and we will pick up the pieces of the shattered GOP.

By we I mean me and other Ron Paul supporters, not Neocon McCain supporters on this site.

The GOP will NOT be shattered. The same people will control it. The GOP is just playing its role this time around. Eight years from now the Dems will be "shattered".

[MRoCkEd]

Keep the big picture in mind. This help our cause and is the only hope we have of restoring our Republic.
I hope so. Let's see what's left of our "republic" in 4 years. The United Socialist Countries of North America might not hold elections :o.

[Cleaner44]

The GOP will NOT be shattered. The same people will control it. The GOP is just playing its role this time around. Eight years from now the Dems will be "shattered".

Many Ron Paul supporters have already taken positions within the party. As more people walk away from the party, we will step in. One by one we will take over. This is the Revolution. If you do not believe then what are you working for?

[Cleaner44]

I hope so. Let's see what's left of our "republic" in 4 years. The United Socialist Countries of North America might not hold elections :o.

I hope so too.

Do not forget that our Republic was lead into the socialist nationalization of our financial industry by Republican George Bush and supported by John McCain.

We all know that Democrats are socialists and it is because of the Neocons that America is running into the arms of Democrats.

The increased socialism under Obama will not be easy but it will show America that socialism is not the answer. After enduring Democrat rule for a while, America will return to Republicans and we had better be there.

[youngbuck]

This is the Revolution. If you do not believe then what are you working for?

I don't care about your "post count." I question WHO YOU work for.


AND no, I'm not an Obama nor McCain supporter in any way shape or form.

[Cleaner44]

I don't care about your "post count." I question WHO YOU work for.


AND no, I'm not an Obama nor McCain supporter in any way shape or form.

I work for myself. I am an employee of a communications company. I am a Veteran and am dedicated to the Constitution. I support Ron Paul and have for years. I do not consider our work done with this election and I still say the Revolution will not be stopped!

Who do YOU work for?

[youngbuck]

OK, I work for the Coors Brewing Company, and that possibly could be a suspect in the NWO scheme of things. Big deal, I have a crappy job that doesn't pay well. Like that explains anything. I still call foul on the general idea of your post. I'm not necessarily saying you're an infiltrator, nor a closet commie or fascist, but you saying an Obama presidency is in any way supporting the eventual reestablishment of Constitutional rule and preeminence is ludicrous.

Remember my words.

[Cleaner44]

OK, I work for the Coors Brewing Company, and that possibly could be a suspect in the NWO scheme of things. Big deal, I have a crappy job that doesn't pay well. Like that explains anything. I still call foul on the general idea of your post. I'm not necessarily saying you're an infiltrator, nor a closet commie or fascist, but you saying an Obama presidency is in any way supporting the eventual reestablishment of Constitutional rule and preeminence is ludicrous.

Remember my words.

YoungFool think what you will. I simply state the truth. McCain will lose to Obama. This is better for the Revolution than a McCain win. If you can't see that then you are lost and I wish you well.

I supprt Ron Paul more than you do and you look at me as an infiltrator??? I am 100% against Fascists such as Bush and McCain and you question my motivations???

When Ron Paul says it is better to work within the party, then I belive him. He has fought this fight for many decades. Reforming the GOP is the only hope we have as I can see. I choose to maintain hope of restoring our Republican and our Constitutional rule. If you see this as hopeless then why are you here?

[youngbuck]

YoungFool think what you will. I simply state the truth. McCain will lose to Obama. This is better for the Revolution than a McCain win. If you can't see that then you are lost and I wish you well.

I supprt Ron Paul more than you do and you look at me as an infiltrator??? I am 100% against Fascists such as Bush and McCain and you question my motivations???

When Ron Paul says it is better to work within the party, then I belive him. He has fought this fight for many decades. Reforming the GOP is the only hope we have as I can see. I choose to maintain hope of restoring our Republican and our Constitutional rule. If you see this as hopeless then why are you here?


OK, reasonable post. Yea, I'm a YOUNGfool; don't know anything really.

If you want to say that an Obama presidency is that much better than a McCain presidency, then I WISH YOU WELL.

I'm not attacking you dude. I'm merely pointing out an inherent flaw in your logic.

[Cleaner44]

OK, reasonable post. Yea, I'm a YOUNGfool; don't know anything really.

If you want to say that an Obama presidency is that much better than a McCain presidency, then I WISH YOU WELL.

I'm not attacking you dude. I'm merely pointing out an inherent flaw in your logic.

Understand that the next 4 years are lost regardless. This can not be changed. McCain's loss will be our gain. Make no mistake, if McCain won, our work would be much more difficult. In that respect an Obama presidency is better for us, see the bigger picture. We are planting seeds today. They will grow much faster with the Mcain loss/Obama victory.

[youngbuck]

Understand that the next 4 years are lost regardless. This can not be changed. McCain's loss will be our gain. Make no mistake, if McCain won, our work would be much more difficult. In that respect an Obama presidency is better for us, see the bigger picture. We are planting seeds today. They will grow much faster with the Mcain loss/Obama victory.

Yes, the next 4 years are lost regardless, and I know at this point it cannot be changed.

I REALLY hope you're right in that a McCain loss will be to our advantage. I just think it's going to take us down the same road we've been heading down for DECADES (I'm sure you know this). Nothing has changed.

[libertarian4321]

It's irrelevant whether McCain or Obama wins, they are both owned by the same people.

Dirk- I disagree. Its better for us if Obama wins.

If McCain wins, it only encourages the neocons to keep doing what they've been doing.

The Republican Party won't change until it is forced to, and only a complete and humiliating defeat will force them to change.

[Conza88]

Note to all of you Neocon McCain lovers here:
McCain will lose this election. He will lose badly. Probably the largest landslide loss for a Republican since 1964. This will hopefully be the begining of the end for Neocon rule within the GOP.

If you support McCain then you support:
Liars
Flip Floppers
Corruption
Morons
Big Govt
Big Deficits
Big Debt
Bailouts
Communism
Fascism
War
etc...

You can stop trying to get liberty lovers to vote for McCain, it is not going to happen. Now if you really believe in McCain I suggest you make a large bet with any anti-McCain American and be prepared to pay up bitches! :D

Much to the dismay of those who care about Liberty...

It doesn't shit all because its all part of the plan...

Celebrating the NWO's plan is going right of shedule?

You're a fken git... :D

[cheapseats]

McCain will lose this election...This will hopefully be the begining of the end for Neocon rule within the GOP.




We are screw without Ron Paul as our President so the next best thing is a quick death to this Neocon version of Republicans.



...I want to see us seize control of the GOP from Neocons. First we need to see the epic failure that is McCain. Then we can step into the void.

Once America sickens themselves on Socialism, we will be there with Ron Paul values to offer a solution.

Recall that the Not-Great-Great Majority will either be receiving handouts or paychecks from Obama and the Democrats.



Ron Paul will not be our next President, sad but true. The next best thing is to watch America completely turn its back on Neocon Republicans. We will then be in position to offer a real solution after the voters see that Democrats are a failure too.

America finally turning its back on Neocons translates to automatic and full embrace of the Ron Paul platform? If A, then R?



Exactly. Now Obama will win and we will pick up the pieces of the shattered GOP.

By we I mean me and other Ron Paul supporters, not Neocon McCain supporters on this site.



The GOP was too stupid to accept Ron Paul and now they will pay the price. Ron Paul is the ONLY one that could have defeated Obama. Our time will come out of this. Like a Phoenix rising from the ashes, the Ron Paul Revolution will rebuild the GOP!



And our only hope is to take over the GOP. Down with Neocons and bring in the Ron Paul Revolution!



Keep the big picture in mind. This help our cause and is the only hope we have of restoring our Republic.



Many Ron Paul supporters have already taken positions within the party. As more people walk away from the party, we will step in. One by one we will take over.

Power corrupts. Absolute power corrupts absolutely.




McCain will lose to Obama. This is better for the Revolution than a McCain win. If you can't see that then you are lost and I wish you well.


Is that the sum total of the argument for an Obama victory being preferable to a McCain victory...that the Ron Paul Revolution will simply take over by taking over?

[lodge939]

I don't think this will be a 1964. Clinton/Dole redux, maybe

I expect McCain to outperform the polls

[Cleaner44]

Much to the dismay of those who care about Liberty...

It doesn't shit all because its all part of the plan...

Celebrating the NWO's plan is going right of shedule?

You're a fken git... :D

If you see it as hopeless then I guess you have given up. I chose to continue working in the direction of Ron Paul.

Give up if you will and I understand, just stay the hell out of the way of those that want to restore our Republic you fucking git.

[Conza88]

If you see it as hopeless then I guess you have given up. I chose to continue working in the direction of Ron Paul.

Give up if you will and I understand, just stay the hell out of the way of those that want to restore our Republic you fucking git.

Lmao I read this just after I received this email reply from G. Edward Griffin himself...

I suggest you check out the newest Unfiltered News site... (http://www.realityzone.com/currentperiod.html)

Here is a great little video that will make you realize that victory for freedom is inevitable. That's right. Inevitable! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zIOX9IQhL3M) YouTube 2008 Oct 29

:D

And on a personal note; wth was wrong with my English skills? :eek: lol

[Cleaner44]

Lmao I read this just after I received this email reply from G. Edward Griffin himself...

I suggest you check out the newest Unfiltered News site... (http://www.realityzone.com/currentperiod.html)

Here is a great little video that will make you realize that victory for freedom is inevitable. That's right. Inevitable! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zIOX9IQhL3M) YouTube 2008 Oct 29

:D

And on a personal note; wth was wrong with my English skills? :eek: lol

If you have not given up the fight for liberty then I am glad to hear it.

Your video kicks ass and your English skills suck ass.

[Cleaner44]

I told you so!