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Knightskye
10-29-2008, 08:38 PM
http://birdforsenate.com/

http://www.independentpoliticalreport.com/2008/10/its-official-ron-paul-endorses-bob-bird-for-us-senate/

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dAEbWtc4d1M


However, defenders of Liberty like you and I cannot sit idly by and allow big government liberal and Harry Reid disciple Mark Begich to waltz right into the Senate for the next six years.

Seems like an okay guy.

Is it me, or could Ron Paul not stay away from people with B.B. names? :D
nate895
10-29-2008, 08:42 PM
He has an unfortunate name however. On the off chance this guy gets elected, we'd have two of them in the Senate.
Kotin
10-29-2008, 08:45 PM
nice!

does he have a chance? I hear the AIP is a fairly large player in alaska
Jeremy
10-29-2008, 08:47 PM
He has an unfortunate name however. On the off chance this guy gets elected, we'd have two of them in the Senate.

current one is byrd =p

besides, he's so old... he'll be out of the senate soon
nate895
10-29-2008, 08:47 PM
nice!

does he have a chance? I hear the AIP is a fairly large player in alaska

I think he has a better chance since he will be the conservative alternative to Stevens, who is now a convicted felon. Begich will probably win, but if the supporters of Stevens don't stick with him, Bird has a chance.
nate895
10-29-2008, 08:49 PM
current one is byrd =p

besides, he's so old... he'll be out of the senate soon

I know, I think his next race is in 2012. I am betting he will stay in the Senate until he is dead.
Jeremy
10-29-2008, 08:52 PM
I know, I think his next race is in 2012. I am betting he will stay in the Senate until he is dead.

Why that's simply barbaric! http://simplybarbaric.ytmnd.com/
nate895
10-29-2008, 08:54 PM
Why that's simply barbaric! http://simplybarbaric.ytmnd.com/

The dude lost what little mind he had many years ago I believe.
Texan4Life
10-29-2008, 09:03 PM
barbaric!

BARBARIC!

BARBARIC!!!
crackyflipside
10-29-2008, 09:09 PM
barbaric!

BARBARIC!

BARBARIC!!!

Developers Developers Developers!
Jeremy
10-29-2008, 09:11 PM
BARBARIC

Let that word resound from hill top to hill top, valley to valley, across this broad land!
Aratus
10-30-2008, 10:46 AM
B-I-R-D!!! for the SENATE!
Knightskye
10-30-2008, 12:41 PM
Bird is the word!
http://www.hulu.com/watch/37969/family-guy-cant-stop
heavenlyboy34
10-30-2008, 12:44 PM
I know, I think his next race is in 2012. I am betting he will stay in the Senate until he is dead.

Hopefully, McShame will too! :D
Texan4Life
10-30-2008, 01:09 PM
bump
Minlawc
10-30-2008, 01:24 PM
Does he have a chance, or will people vote for the "lesser of two evils"?

I don't want to get my hopes up. I don't live in Alaska...
Knightskye
10-31-2008, 01:21 PM
Does he have a chance, or will people vote for the "lesser of two evils"?

I don't want to get my hopes up. I don't live in Alaska...

I'm sure the Republicans are looking for someone to vote for, now that Ted Stevens got convicted. As well as members of the AIP, since he's the nominee.

Too bad the Alaska Supreme Court ruled that secession was illegal:
http://touchngo.com/sp/html/sp-6072.htm

I don't understand that.

Get BJ to introduce a Constitutional amendment after he gets elected. ;)
Shotdown1027
10-31-2008, 02:30 PM
Bird likely doesnt have a shot at winning, but may score low double digits--enough to turn over the seat to Begich.

I know that sounds like im rooting for the Democrat,and that's cuz I am. In 6 years, when that seat is up, Bob Bird will be one of the frontrunners for it (he can run in the Republican primary,like he did in 1990). The others would be former Governor Walter Hickel (another AIPer), Lt. Gov. Sean Parnell (a Palin-ally), and Dave Cuddy (the guy who ran against Stevens in the primary this year, he's a millinoaire and Ron Pauler).
Knightskye
11-02-2008, 12:51 AM
Bird likely doesnt have a shot at winning, but may score low double digits--enough to turn over the seat to Begich.

I think Ted Stevens is enough to turn the seat over to Begich. :D
Shotdown1027
11-02-2008, 11:38 AM
Stevens actually STILL has a shot at holding onto the seat.
JosephTheLibertarian
11-02-2008, 11:40 AM
Why not the Libertarian candidate? Ron Paul lets me down again
Shotdown1027
11-02-2008, 11:51 AM
Oh really? David Haase, the Libertarian candidate, endorsed Sen. Ted Stevens on the basis that he didnt want the Democrat to win.
StateofTrance
11-02-2008, 12:12 PM
Ron Paul should be CAREFUL enough with respect to these "endorsements" .. These endorsements are flying here and there...Exactly the same way ghost newsletters were flying around here and there without Ron's proper consent/enough investigation.

Last thing you want to hear on CNN is Ron Paul "endorsing" a politician with KKK-background and Ron refuting the charges saying he didn't know who wrote the endorsement piece blah blah etc... Enough already..
Shotdown1027
11-02-2008, 12:25 PM
StateofTrance,

I think he's very careful about who he is endorsing. And I'd be willing to bet that anyone whom he endorses (and whom wins) is likely to join the Liberty Committee sometime soon.
james1906
11-02-2008, 12:35 PM
I'm sure the Republicans are looking for someone to vote for, now that Ted Stevens got convicted. As well as members of the AIP, since he's the nominee.

Too bad the Alaska Supreme Court ruled that secession was illegal:
http://touchngo.com/sp/html/sp-6072.htm

I don't understand that.

Get BJ to introduce a Constitutional amendment after he gets elected. ;)

I'll be a nice day when Alaska sends an ambassador to Austin.
Shotdown1027
11-02-2008, 12:37 PM
By the way: Bob Bird is playing Radio ads on at least 5 stations (mostly in Anchorage and around the Kenai Penninsula) and is placing quarter-page ads in There will be quarter-page ads Monday in the Juneau Empire, Fairbanks News-Miner, and Anchorage Daily News.
Knightskye
11-02-2008, 01:03 PM
I'll be a nice day when Alaska sends an ambassador to Austin.

And suspiciously, Colorado, New Mexico, Oklahoma, Kansas, Missouri, Arkansas, and Louisiana become no-fly zones. :D


I think he's very careful about who he is endorsing.

I respectfully disagree:
http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?t=162822
Shotdown1027
11-02-2008, 02:01 PM
Yea, I've seen that--and I think that are very carefully calculated. The fact that so many people are coming and begging him for endorsements is a GOOD thing and I'd be willing to bet that if/when any of them get re-elected (or elected) then they will join the Liberty Committee or make certain pro-liberty votes they wouldnt otherwise make. However, that thread rages against people like Walter Jones, Roscoe Bartlett, and Scott Garrett--people who are DEFINETLY not perfect, but who are not uber-prowar and who represent the MOST pro-liberty incumbents in Congress.
Knightskye
11-03-2008, 01:40 PM
However, that thread rages against people like Walter Jones, Roscoe Bartlett, and Scott Garrett--people who are DEFINETLY not perfect, but who are not uber-prowar and who represent the MOST pro-liberty incumbents in Congress.

What does "uber prowar" mean?

Like, they won't introduce legislation to invade Iran? They'd lose re-election if they did that. They do vote to fund the war, though. So if you could give an explanation, that would be appreciated.

My point is that they aren't pro-liberty, and if there aren't any pro-liberty Republicans (since apparently, Dr. Paul hasn't endorsed Kucinich) in the House, maybe he shouldn't endorse any incumbents.
Shotdown1027
11-03-2008, 02:17 PM
KnightSkye,

By endorsing these guys, Ron Paul shows them that freedom is popular and that is attracts voters and money. These men probably also promise to continue on in Dr. Paul's Liberty Committee. Politics is a hard-played game, and Dr. Paul is playing it well by endorsing these people. If they win, they'll be indebted to him and likely take a more pro-liberty path than they otherwise would. Besides, the alternative is, in all situations, worse. Some of them have shown SIGNIFICANT improvement over the last couple of years, Jimmy Duncan and Walter Jones foremost amongst them.
Knightskye
11-03-2008, 11:42 PM
KnightSkye,

By endorsing these guys, Ron Paul shows them that freedom is popular and that is attracts voters and money. These men probably also promise to continue on in Dr. Paul's Liberty Committee. Politics is a hard-played game, and Dr. Paul is playing it well by endorsing these people. If they win, they'll be indebted to him and likely take a more pro-liberty path than they otherwise would. Besides, the alternative is, in all situations, worse. Some of them have shown SIGNIFICANT improvement over the last couple of years, Jimmy Duncan and Walter Jones foremost amongst them.

They're not getting my vote just because Ron Paul endorsed them.

If they want me to support their candidacy, they should vote that way.

By the way, do you mean John Duncan or Jim Duncan? Because I can't find Jimmy.
Shotdown1027
11-03-2008, 11:48 PM
John Duncan Jr. His nickname is Jimmy. He's the second best man in Congress,behind Paul.
Knightskye
11-05-2008, 03:11 PM
John Duncan Jr. His nickname is Jimmy. He's the second best man in Congress,behind Paul.

Voted Nay on reauthorizing the Patriot Act, Nay on HR 1955, voted against funding the war in June. He did vote for the Military Commissions Act, but he seems like he's coming around. But he isn't on the Liberty PAC endorsement page:
http://libertypac.net/html/federal.html

So I don't get it.