Your so called "commie/liberal" states/cities are MORE advanced and developed than

[StateofTrance]

other states..I'm from Portland, OR and working in MN right now..God Fuck, this Midwest is fucked up...Alabama, Louisiana, Mississippi, Missouri, Georgia etc..These are 3rd world countries to me.

Don't get me wrong, but I enjoy living in open-minded, liberal places that are developed, educated and advanced.

[Andrew-Austin]

Okay...

[KenInMontiMN]

Looks to me like you have a problem with the south more than the MW, if that list of states is any indication.

[StateofTrance]

More like MW + South..

[SeanEdwards]

Louisiana makes the third world look appealing.

[StateofTrance]

Louisiana makes the third world look appealing.

+1

I did my Bachelor's there and faced Katrina..Gosh..don't remind me of those days..

[dannno]

I would blame it on the Federal Reserve, not the political ideologies of the individual areas.

Oregon is friggin beautiful.. great place.

[forsmant]

I don't understand? What is it you didn't like about the cities in question? What is so good about Portland? Fuck Portland! Joking.

[BarryDonegan]

other states..I'm from Portland, OR and working in MN right now..God Fuck, this Midwest is fucked up...Alabama, Louisiana, Mississippi, Missouri, Georgia etc..These are 3rd world countries to me.

Don't get me wrong, but I enjoy living in open-minded, liberal places that are developed, educated and advanced.

you're obviously judging the cities vs. rural areas.

if you judge the nice ones, such as Austin, TX, Houston, TX, Atlanta, GA, most major cities in florida, including Orlando, Hunstville, AL, Louisville, KY

those are all very nice, great cities... raleigh/durham NC the triangle is nice, most of Virginia is nice.

Liberal politics of this decade has nothing to do with it, most of the financial backdrop of a city were sealed a century ago. San Francisco benefitted quite well from a huge rush of GOLD not its liberal politics... so you would think they would have learned the lesson about what inflation does as far as transferring wealth... Los Angeles is more or less a third world country inside of the city limits, save for Beverly Hills, I lived there for 3 years(LA not beverly hills). Ventura is nice, Beverly Hills is nice, but you could choke to death on the smog. Portland and Seattle are around the same size, level of development and sophistication as Nashville, Austin TX etc.

politics has little to do with a cities development unless you are talking about specifically civic planned development that didn't have private source of funding, which is basically nothing.

take nashville for example, nashville is suddenly booming because our location makes us a great shipping/receiving hub.

i can tell you for a fact tho that all ofthe New Deal policies in the tennessee valley authority nearly ruined our state. we have a ton of problematic stuff, including our own version of universal healthcare, tenncare, which collapsed under its own bureaucracy more or less.

[Texan4Life]

Funny I think the same about cali. new york, mass. and port.

They're nothing but crowed stuck up ant hills, with no respect for one another. disgusting.

How could anyone live so close together?

[BarryDonegan]

my view of the nicest cities in america, based on visiting every single one many times...

nashville
huntsville, al
orlando, fl
tampa bay, fl
austin, tx
houston, tx
providence, rhode island
fargo, north dakota
madison, WI
ventura, ca
new haven, ct


i think my overall winner is madison, wi although i would never stay there in the winter... in the summer it is the cleanest, nicest city and it seems like everyone rides a bike verywhere.

im pretty into living in nashville, though, as a touring musician it is just simply too cheap and easy to get to other states, and nice.

[BarryDonegan]

other states..I'm from Portland, OR and working in MN right now..God Fuck, this Midwest is fucked up...Alabama, Louisiana, Mississippi, Missouri, Georgia etc..These are 3rd world countries to me.

Don't get me wrong, but I enjoy living in open-minded, liberal places that are developed, educated and advanced.

houston, tx, the third largest US city doesn't even have zoning laws

[nbhadja]

other states..I'm from Portland, OR and working in MN right now..God Fuck, this Midwest is fucked up...Alabama, Louisiana, Mississippi, Missouri, Georgia etc..These are 3rd world countries to me.

Don't get me wrong, but I enjoy living in open-minded, liberal places that are developed, educated and advanced.


Big government is still a failure and complete trash. Free markets are much better, not that the South has a free market. The South has as big governments as the Pacific NW states do.

Remember, the South politicians pose as "conservative". They are really socially conservative fiscally liberal "conservatives." In other words, they are socialist.

[nate895]

Big government is still a failure and complete trash. Free markets are much better, not that the South has a free market. The South has as big governments as the Pacific NW states do.

Remember, the South politicians pose as "conservative". They are really socially conservative fiscally liberal "conservatives." In other words, they are socialist.

The reason that Southern politicians are socialist and are now starting to emerge out of that trend (it is no coincidence our three best candidates this cycle come from Southern states) is that the South lost everything in the WBTS and has only recovered in the 70s and 80s, that is when you started to see the shift to the Republican Party. The South will be more free market as soon as it can get out of its cycle of perpetual poverty, which it still hasn't fully recovered from. I'd give it a few years since the South will be fairly immune (not entirely) from the credit crunch because the South didn't see as large of an explosion in home prices as the rest of the United States, save Florida and other retirement hubs.

[forsmant]

Wbts?

[nate895]

Wbts?

War Between the States AKA Civil War AKA War of Northern Aggression AKA War of Rebellion AKA War of Southern Independence

[trapfive]

Looks to me like you have a problem with the south more than the MW, if that list of states is any indication.

sounds like he's just homesick

[forsmant]

Thats what I thought you were referring to but I kept coming up with were better than the south. I have never seen that anagram before.

[nate895]

Thats what I thought you were referring to but I kept coming up with were better than the south. I have never seen that anagram before.

Well, I'm a Civil War buff and use the term all the time, I guess it's just Civil War buff jargon.

[Jeremy]

I live in CT, the most taxed state in the country. It's garbage over here. Complete garbage. There's no freedom. Everyone is a slave!