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angelatc
10-29-2008, 09:21 AM
From the CFL site:


Posted by Matt Hawes on 10/29/08
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Dr. Paul will be on tonight with MSNBC's new hit host, Rachel Maddow. We still don't have an exact hit time, but the program begins at 9:00 pm ET, and we are told he should be on toward the front end of the program. Ms. Maddow is a fresh and clever voice on the National political scene and recently called Dr. Paul her favorite Republican in a New York Times interview. Should be a great interview!

I hate her so much that unless my mood changes I shall be waiting for the YouTube.

However, try to keep this bumped so the worker bees will see it when they get home.

Knightskye
10-29-2008, 09:23 AM
I actually kind of like her.

Wonder what they'll talk about, though.

frasu
10-29-2008, 09:24 AM
From the CFL site:



I hate her so much that unless my mood changes I shall be waiting for the YouTube.

However, try to keep this bumped so the worker bees will see it when they get home.

+1

Mortikhi
10-29-2008, 09:37 AM
I actually kind of like her.

Wonder what they'll talk about, though.

Me, too. She has great sarcasm and actually points out the crap that goes on that most talking heads won't even touch.

max
10-29-2008, 09:40 AM
Maddow is a socialist bull dyke...she could be hot if she grew and styled her hair...

the only reason she'd have RP on is to hurt McCain....Believe me..if it RP running against Obama, the "sympathetic" Maddows and Becks of the media would be ripping RP apart

ghengis86
10-29-2008, 09:47 AM
Maddow is a socialist bull dyke...she could be hot if she grew and styled her hair...


but then she'd just be lesbian version of sarah palin!

angelatc
10-29-2008, 10:00 AM
I've actually several of the Sarah haters mention that all the pretty women are Republicans. :)

Join The Paul Side
10-29-2008, 10:40 AM
I've actually several of the Sarah haters mention that all the pretty women are Republicans. :)


Oh, please. Hillary Clinton is way hotter than Sarah Palin. :p

HOLLYWOOD
10-29-2008, 10:52 AM
Maddow is a socialist bull dyke...she could be hot if she grew and styled her hair...

the only reason she'd have RP on is to hurt McCain....Believe me..if it RP running against Obama, the "sympathetic" Maddows and Becks of the media would be ripping RP apart

Are you kidding... She needs a MAJOR NOSE and EAR JOBS!

On top of that...


Did she get hit in the jaw by a baseball bat? She talks out of the side of her mouth. WTF?

I wouldn't touch her with Rosey O'Donnell's scrotum

Texan4Life
10-29-2008, 11:18 AM
I had no idea who Rachel Maddow was so I did a google image search

http://i37.tinypic.com/28a3i2x.jpghttp://i38.tinypic.com/k3wvas.jpg

and I'm glad I don't have cable now...


Though I still want to see the RP interview so someone hook us up with the youtubes!

Kotin
10-29-2008, 11:22 AM
all I can say about her is that her slant comes out more than chris matthews and olbermann.

ladyjade3
10-29-2008, 11:34 AM
She's got great ratings, I like her style, and she has said that RP is her favorite Republican. She has Pat Buchanan on all the time, and I anticipate a great interview.

But if it doesn't go well... I guess you can come yell at me.

MRoCkEd
10-29-2008, 11:38 AM
She's got great ratings, I like her style, and she has said that RP is her favorite Republican. She has Pat Buchanan on all the time, and I anticipate a great interview.

But if it doesn't go well... I guess you can come yell at me.
Yeah - let's just hope it lasts more than 3 minutes

PS: See if we can get RP on CNN's "DL Hughley Breaks the News". (DL recently said he would like to have ron on his show)

SWATH
10-29-2008, 11:40 AM
With her I detect a massive anti-Republican pro-Democrat bias. The Dems get a free ride at all cost while excoriating the Republicans, a lot like Olbermann.

I must add that I deduced this in the three full minutes I have ever watched of her show..

ladyjade3
10-29-2008, 11:42 AM
Yeah - let's just hope it lasts more than 3 minutes

PS: See if we can get RP on CNN's "DL Hughley Breaks the News". (DL recently said he would like to have ron on his show)

It is supposed to be 8-10 minutes. I really do get a good feeling about it, but I have been wrong in the past.

Have them call the congressional office. I haven't heard from them yet. :)

bbagnall
10-29-2008, 11:45 AM
With her I detect a massive anti-Republican pro-Democrat bias. The Dems get a free ride at all cost while excoriating the Republicans, a lot like Olbermann.

When Palin came out and gave a bump in the polls to John McCain, the Democratic media went insane. You can only imagine the praise Palin would be getting if she was a Democrat. Meadow would be talking about what a wonderful, down to earth person Palin was.

Minuteman2008
10-29-2008, 11:45 AM
She and Pat Buchanan used to be on various MSNBC shows together all the time. Funny how she now has her own show. I love it when the two debate, though. She is incredibly wrong on so many issues, and uses the usual leftist tactics during debate, but other than that I guess she's okay.

Of course Ron Paul is her favorite Republican because of his opposition to the war. I'd like to know one other issue she would agree with him on. Certainly she would think his opposition in general to the welfare state makes hm heartless, his position on immigration makes him a racist, etc. But I'm sure during the interview such topics won't come up.

ladyjade3
10-29-2008, 11:47 AM
With her I detect a massive anti-Republican pro-Democrat bias. The Dems get a free ride at all cost while excoriating the Republicans, a lot like Olbermann.

Well, there is a lot of excoriating to do. And Limbaugh and FoxNews ain't gonna do it.

She's a newsy political opinion show. Modern "journalists" are openly more about punditry and opinion than they have been in the past, and that's fine. As long as you don't claim you're all about the facts, nothing but the facts. I have no problem listening to someone's slant and opinion, because after that, I'll go somewhere else and listen to someone else's opinion. We're all humans and have opinions. Nothing wrong with that.

MRoCkEd
10-29-2008, 11:50 AM
It is supposed to be 8-10 minutes. I really do get a good feeling about it, but I have been wrong in the past.

Well that sounds good.

Have them call the congressional office. I haven't heard from them yet. :)
Wouldn't know who to contact :o

Texan4Life
10-29-2008, 11:51 AM
with 8-10 mins.. hopefully she will let RP explain his positions a little better than the normal 10 or 20 seconds... we all know who will win in a debate :)

angelatc
10-29-2008, 11:52 AM
There's no point in only preaching to the converted. It is good for Ron Paul to appear on these shows. It is just my own aversion to nails-on-a-chalkboard that might keep me from watching it.

ladyjade3
10-29-2008, 11:55 AM
There's no point in only preaching to the converted. It is good for Ron Paul to appear on these shows. It is just my own aversion to nails-on-a-chalkboard that might keep me from watching it.

We'll let you know afterwards if it is worth watching. :)

angelatc
10-29-2008, 11:58 AM
We'll let you know afterwards if it is worth watching. :)

Oh I'll probably cave. I am a sucker for Ron Paul. :)

HOLLYWOOD
10-29-2008, 12:03 PM
Yeah - let's just hope it lasts more than 3 minutes

PS: See if we can get RP on CNN's "DL Hughley Breaks the News". (DL recently said he would like to have ron on his show)

Yes... it was even surprising that DL and Jesse V found some, not much, but some common ground about the "SLANTED/Corrupt" political system and the political hacks in the race.

blocks
10-29-2008, 12:03 PM
all I can say about her is that her slant comes out more than chris matthews and olbermann.

Ehhh...I argue about olbermann, that man is like an Obama campaign spokesperson. The reason I like Maddow better than those two, she isn't spiteful in her bias.

HOLLYWOOD
10-29-2008, 12:08 PM
Ehhh...I argue about olbermann, that man is like an Obama campaign spokesperson. The reason I like Maddow better than those two, she isn't spiteful in her bias.

Catch Oblermann after the OBAMA acceptance speech at Invesco Field @ Mile High in Denver?

I thought Kieth was going to cry and give birth between those Roman Columns on his commentary.

As the country knows... Kieth was PULLED from leading the coverage of the electorial events.

It was so bias'd, we were laughing with sarcasism & disgust on how ridiculous he sounded.

Rocket80
10-29-2008, 12:10 PM
I like watching her show too, as well as Olbermann and even O'Reilly and Hannity. I don't watch for ideological reasons, I watch because I find them entertaining and I like to be antagonized and yell at the TV with a beer most nights after work.

That's the problem with some of these guys, like O'Reilly and Olbermann, they foolishly believe that their ratings equate to support of their ideology, when in fact, they just produce good television...imo, obviously, haha

MRoCkEd
10-29-2008, 12:12 PM
I like watching her show too, as well as Olbermann and even O'Reilly and Hannity. I don't watch for ideological reasons, I watch because I find them entertaining and I like to be antagonized and yell at the TV with a beer most nights after work.

That's the problem with some of these guys, like O'Reilly and Olbermann, they foolishly believe that their ratings equate to support of their ideology, when in fact, they just produce good television...imo, obviously, haha
This post makes me less ashamed to say that I watched the O'Reilly factor the other night.. solely for entertainment purposes.

blocks
10-29-2008, 12:14 PM
Catch Oblermann after the OBAMA acceptance speech at Invesco Field @ Mile High in Denver?

I thought Kieth was going to cry and give birth between those Roman Columns on his commentary.

As the country knows... Kieth was PULLED from leading the coverage of the electroial events.

It was so bias'd, we were laughing with sarcasism & disgust on how ridiculous he sounded.

Yeah. that was a joke. Obama finishes and the confetti falls. First words, Olbermann: "OUT OF THE PARK! ACROSS THE STREET! OVER BUILDINGS ACROSS THE STREET!" haha...

Imagine the outrage from the left if O'Reilley was a lead commentator on those types of events.

BenIsForRon
10-29-2008, 12:26 PM
I like Maddow, she's not as far up Obama's ass as Olbermann is. She didn't try to make excuses for Obama when he voted for telecom immunity, Olbermann definitely did though.

From what I read of her one sentence of support for Ron Paul, I think she means that she respects the fact that he truly believes that free markets and small government are the best ways to maintain prosperity and liberty.

angelatc
10-29-2008, 12:33 PM
I like Maddow, she's not as far up Obama's ass as Olbermann is. She didn't try to make excuses for Obama when he voted for telecom immunity, Olbermann definitely did though.

From what I read of her one sentence of support for Ron Paul, I think she means that she respects the fact that he truly believes that free markets and small government are the best ways to maintain prosperity and liberty.

Hey Ben, just gotta ask - are you a teacher? If you are, I think you're related to my husband.

BenIsForRon
10-29-2008, 12:37 PM
No, quite the opposite actually, I'm currently a student.

angelatc
10-29-2008, 12:49 PM
No, quite the opposite actually, I'm currently a student.

Oh I figured the odds were slim but thought I'd give it a try anyway!

JohnJay
10-29-2008, 01:00 PM
She has been one of the "pundits" on MSNBC - so she now has evolved into her own show -
basically regurgitating the same ol' stuff ?

Anyone YouTube the Ron Paul segment ? Thanks in advance.

Knightskye
10-29-2008, 01:01 PM
but then she'd just be lesbian version of sarah palin!

Wouldn't she be the strai... :D


Oh, please. Hillary Clinton is way hotter than Sarah Palin.

I disagree.

I don't think either of them are hot, but I think that's pretty ridiculous.

Minuteman2008
10-29-2008, 01:16 PM
From what I read of her one sentence of support for Ron Paul, I think she means that she respects the fact that he truly believes that free markets and small government are the best ways to maintain prosperity and liberty.

I hope you're joking. Like every other liberal in the media (or on this message board), she likes Ron Paul because he opposes the Iraq war. Period. Ron Paul may get his small government message across during the interview, but there would be no interview (and no admiration from Maddow) if Paul hadn't opposed the Iraq war from the start. Maddow's views are so far to the left that she actually agrees with neoconservatives on various social issues. She is mostly on board with neoconservative playbook of "invade the world, invite the world, in hock to the world". Except the "invade the world" part.

ladyjade3
10-29-2008, 01:24 PM
Update - they will have him on later in the show, approximately 9:45. 7 minutes.

ImstillforRP
10-29-2008, 01:45 PM
Wouldn't she be the strai... :D



I disagree.

I don't think either of them are hot, but I think that's pretty ridiculous.

Sarah Palin is hot. Very hot. Especially for a mother with many kids. You must get playboy bunnies on a daily. :eek:

Knightskye
10-29-2008, 02:23 PM
Sarah Palin is hot. Very hot. Especially for a mother with many kids. You must get playboy bunnies on a daily. :eek:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/telegraph/multimedia/archive/01007/palin-cover_1007297f.jpg

angelatc
10-29-2008, 03:07 PM
Ron Paul!

BarryDonegan
10-29-2008, 03:14 PM
i just dislike her show because she blames everything on "deregulation" without explaining what deregulation that Bush's last 8 years actually did... i would love to see how Bush's term was "deregulatory"

a list of 5 or 6 deregulatory legislative acts would be a nice start.

its annoying, its like they're saying that Bush just stepped in and said NO MORE LAWS!

thats garbage, it was a massive increase in the size of government.

the only deregulation ever cited, the gramm/leach biley act or whatever, was CLINTON, and was not supported by the Gold Standard of hands off economics.

daviddee
10-29-2008, 03:59 PM
...

jcarcinogen
10-29-2008, 04:45 PM
I din't like her at first at all, but I can stomach her and respect her because she does not hide her bias and will rationalize it (Ican't watch most of what's on FOX at all).

She is thoughtful but yes very "progressive" yet is intelligent enough to convey her beliefs and thoughtful enough to listen to the other side and in the NY Times she did say when asked who was her favorite Republican, she said Ron Paul. NY Times
(http://www.nytimes.com/2008/10/19/magazine/19wwln-domains-t.html?_r=3&ref=magazine&oref=slogin&oref=slogin&oref=slogin)
She is often on Hardball as a 'progressive' or 'left' leaning pundit and Buchanan is the 'conservative' or 'right leaning' and I have grown to respect her although I disagree with her political ideology she is civil and get's the other side. Especially with Buchanan acting more like a "little c conservative" lately. Her humor is sharp and sometimes too much, but it is smart although definitely very "progressive" as MSNBC acts like they are (owned by GE).

I hope her show will ask if the Republican party has a schism or is reforming. She will bring up Paul as a limited government pro civil liberty conservative, bring up the neoconservative which have taken in the religious right with being against the 'islamofacists' and anti-civil liberties in the laws that they make.

Maddow > Obermann for what that's worth.

BenIsForRon
10-29-2008, 04:52 PM
I hope you're joking. Like every other liberal in the media (or on this message board), she likes Ron Paul because he opposes the Iraq war. Period. Ron Paul may get his small government message across during the interview, but there would be no interview (and no admiration from Maddow) if Paul hadn't opposed the Iraq war from the start. Maddow's views are so far to the left that she actually agrees with neoconservatives on various social issues. She is mostly on board with neoconservative playbook of "invade the world, invite the world, in hock to the world". Except the "invade the world" part.

I didn't say she agrees with him, reread what I said. Keyword: respects.

nbhadja
10-29-2008, 04:52 PM
Oh, please. Hillary Clinton is way hotter than Sarah Palin. :p

Hell no, Hillary is not hot! Sarah is.......

StateofTrance
10-29-2008, 05:03 PM
I would do Maddow over Sarah the Whining Bitch any day.

linux
10-29-2008, 05:08 PM
Maddow is a socialist bull dyke...she could be hot if she grew and styled her hair...

the only reason she'd have RP on is to hurt McCain....Believe me..if it RP running against Obama, the "sympathetic" Maddows and Becks of the media would be ripping RP apart

No doubt. Don't kid yourselves.

jcarcinogen
10-29-2008, 05:10 PM
No doubt. Don't kid yourselves.

Fuck McCain. Let's see the show before we pass judgment.

linux
10-29-2008, 05:13 PM
Fuck McCain. Let's see the show before we pass judgment.

Did you just see the word "McCain" in that post? Did you actually read the words? Or was this just an excuse to say Fuck?

jcarcinogen
10-29-2008, 05:24 PM
Did you just see the word "McCain" in that post? Did you actually read the words? Or was this just an excuse to say Fuck?

In that post you were affirming a quote about her ambitions to just hurt McCain.

I find the word I used appropriate to get my feelings across in 2 words. Juan 'Amnesty' McCain.

zach
10-29-2008, 06:07 PM
Does anyone have an online stream link?

Brassmouth
10-29-2008, 06:50 PM
Does anyone have an online stream link?

Bump

forsmant
10-29-2008, 06:53 PM
My god, this is horrible television.

Bruno
10-29-2008, 06:54 PM
She's been talking about Obama's info-ad.

The ads on five networks for half hour each at primetime are about $5 Million total. I had no idea they would be that cheap, how is that possible?

At any rate, if RP would have done that with one money bomb, maybe more people would have been reached. And there is still the opportunity for the CfL or some other group to do the same thing in the future.

angelatc
10-29-2008, 06:56 PM
My god, this is horrible television.

She gets excellent ratings. Heck, she might be Obama's Press Secretary!

Bruno
10-29-2008, 07:01 PM
I want to ask her, "If Obama does turn out to be a socialist, that would be just fine with you, wouldn't it?"

JS4Pat
10-29-2008, 07:02 PM
She's been talking about Obama's info-ad.

The ads on five networks for half hour each at primetime are about $5 Million total. I had no idea they would be that cheap, how is that possible?

At any rate, if RP would have done that with one money bomb, maybe more people would have been reached. And there is still the opportunity for the CfL or some other group to do the same thing in the future.

I was thinking the EXACT Same thing...

Jeesh - we should have just bought time to play the Ron Paul: A New Hope YouTube video on all the major networks at the same time...

angelatc
10-29-2008, 07:03 PM
At any rate, if RP would have done that with one money bomb, maybe more people would have been reached. And there is still the opportunity for the CfL or some other group to do the same thing in the future.

Yes, I wish he had done it too.

When the Dems get the Fairness Doctrine passed, the networks won't be able to air such things without giving the opponents equal air time.

MRoCkEd
10-29-2008, 07:05 PM
yeah, the campaign definitely needs to do that next time
lol, imagine Jesse Ventura talking smack about his two opponents for a half hour on every station..

Real_CaGeD
10-29-2008, 07:05 PM
RP up next.

Zera
10-29-2008, 07:07 PM
She's a pretty hard liberal, but her show is alright from time to time. I enjoy her making fun of the neocons, though I tend to ignore the Democrat ass kissing.

Paul is coming up, going to talk about the direction of the GOP. Can't wait.

Bruno
10-29-2008, 07:11 PM
Is Rachel going to have a problem with Obama when he does the exact same thing going into the "sovereign country of Pakistan" as the Bush Doctrine 2.0 is doing right now? somehow I think she will cut him slack on it. He's already said he would do it


RP up next.

Not yet. Must....sell...more....commercials...keep RP supporters hanging on....

thehighwaymanq
10-29-2008, 07:12 PM
I hate this woman.

MRoCkEd
10-29-2008, 07:12 PM
give us the playbyplay

Zera
10-29-2008, 07:13 PM
Is Rachel going to have a problem with Obama when he does the exact same thing going into the "sovereign country of Pakistan" as the Bush Doctrine 2.0 is doing right now? somehow I think she will cut him slack on it. He's already said he would do it

who knows. perhaps she'll say that it's necessary to capture Osama or something.

angelatc
10-29-2008, 07:13 PM
I am gonna do it. I am going in. I might need to do a shot, but I can do this.

Real_CaGeD
10-29-2008, 07:14 PM
Is Rachel going to have a problem with Obama when he does the exact same thing going into the "sovereign country of Pakistan" as the Bush Doctrine 2.0 is doing right now? somehow I think she will cut him slack on it. He's already said he would do it

I heard Gates will stay on as Secretary of Defense. Gates is a Zbig/ Rockefeller goon all the way back to Carter.

Bruno
10-29-2008, 07:16 PM
I heard Gates will stay on as Secretary of Defense. Gates is a Zbig/ Rockefeller goon all the way back to Carter.

Go figure. More of the same, huh?

Now that is "Fundamental Change We Can Believe In!" :rolleyes:

thehighwaymanq
10-29-2008, 07:17 PM
Add somebody to my Media shit list.

Thank GOD i have never watched this show, and will never after tonight.

Zera
10-29-2008, 07:23 PM
up next. woo hoo.

MRoCkEd
10-29-2008, 07:24 PM
Get rdy 2 utubzz

Zera
10-29-2008, 07:33 PM
I wish she would have asked where he sees himself in this "new GOP". crappy interview, but oh well.

JS4Pat
10-29-2008, 07:33 PM
I wish she would have asked where he sees himself in this "new GOP". crappy interview, but oh well.

She did let him speak at least...

Ninja Homer
10-29-2008, 07:34 PM
Cut short? I thought she said she was going to ask him about Palin. At least she let him say his piece without interrupting.

1000-points-of-fright
10-29-2008, 07:34 PM
I wish she would have asked where he sees himself in this "new GOP". crappy interview, but oh well.

He didn't really give her a chance to ask any questions. Once he started talking he wouldn't stop.

frasu
10-29-2008, 07:36 PM
what did they talk about? economy? obama?

Bruno
10-29-2008, 07:37 PM
He didn't really give her a chance to ask any questions. Once he started talking he wouldn't stop.

I bet he knew he only had 2 minutes to cram as much in possible. Might as well say what you have to say instead of waiting for someone to ask the question to give you the opportunity to say it.

Zera
10-29-2008, 07:37 PM
He didn't really give her a chance to ask any questions. Once he started talking he wouldn't stop.

True. I think that's one of Paul's weak points. While everything he says is so good, he has so much to say that he doesn't get to the point quickly enough for the average guy.

RSLudlum
10-29-2008, 07:37 PM
That was the RP we all like to see!!!!!

jcarcinogen
10-29-2008, 07:38 PM
GE producer cut it short obviously and she wouldn't interrupt. She gave him respect, commendable for an Obama shill.

Kotin
10-29-2008, 07:38 PM
True. I think that's one of Paul's weak points. While everything he says is so good, he has so much to say that he doesn't get to the point quickly enough for the average guy.

whatever Zera.. is 2 minutes not quick enough for you?


he did awesome and I'm glad she let him speak.

RSLudlum
10-29-2008, 07:38 PM
what did they talk about? economy? obama?

Obama = McCain pretty much sums it up. ;)

self-evident
10-29-2008, 07:39 PM
She didn't even try to challenge him on his criticisms of Obama. Short interview, but I'm thankful for her lack of interruptions. Hope this is the first of many (agreed with the comment above about the importance of reaching a different audience).

MRoCkEd
10-29-2008, 07:40 PM
so much for 7 minutes i guess

jcarcinogen
10-29-2008, 07:41 PM
She mentioned the 2 party system first, not him.

Zera
10-29-2008, 07:41 PM
GE producer cut it short obviously and she wouldn't interrupt. She gave him respect, commendable for an Obama shill.

nobody cut it short... keep the conspiracy theories at the 9/11 troof meetings.

RSLudlum
10-29-2008, 07:42 PM
She didn't even try to challenge him on his criticisms of Obama. Short interview, but I'm thankful for her lack of interruptions. Hope this is the first of many (agreed with the comment above about the importance of reaching a different audience).

Do you think she's an Obama, Clinton or even a Kucinich 'fan'??

Kotin
10-29-2008, 07:43 PM
nobody cut it short... keep the conspiracy theories at the 9/11 troof meetings.

Zera, for god sakes stfu.


when you shill against truthers you only show your own ignorance.


and I'm not even a truther.

Zera
10-29-2008, 07:43 PM
whatever Zera.. is 2 minutes not quick enough for you?


he did awesome and I'm glad she let him speak.

For me? No it's fine. But I have noticed when he's asked a question, he does branch off to many other things as well. While I don't mind it and actually think the points he makes further on as being vital, the average person sees it as rambling.

Ninja Homer
10-29-2008, 07:44 PM
nobody cut it short... keep the conspiracy theories at the 9/11 troof meetings.

Somebody from the campaign (Lady Jade) said it was supposed to be 7 minutes. Chances are it was cut short.

angelatc
10-29-2008, 07:44 PM
We know it was shorter than it was supposed to be, right?

Zera
10-29-2008, 07:44 PM
Zera, for god sakes stfu.


when you shill against truthers you only show your own ignorance.


and I'm not even a truther.

conspiracy theorists are part of the stereotype of Ron Paul supporters. I think it's in everyone best interest to just fucking stop this.

MRoCkEd
10-29-2008, 07:45 PM
Somebody from the campaign (Lady Jade) said it was supposed to be 7 minutes. Chances are it was cut short.
ding ding ding

D.H.
10-29-2008, 07:45 PM
I heard Gates will stay on as Secretary of Defense. Gates is a Zbig/ Rockefeller goon all the way back to Carter.

I am hearing Chuck Hagel or Richard Danzig

http://www.reuters.com/article/politicsNews/idUSTRE49T05X20081030

Zera
10-29-2008, 07:45 PM
Somebody from the campaign (Lady Jade) said it was supposed to be 7 minutes. Chances are it was cut short.

I never saw this, where at?

jcarcinogen
10-29-2008, 07:46 PM
nobody cut it short... keep the conspiracy theories at the 9/11 troof meetings.

Never been to one. You associate the word "truth" with "troof"?

Oyate
10-29-2008, 07:48 PM
bump for tubage

Ninja Homer
10-29-2008, 07:48 PM
I never saw this, where at?

Page 4 of this thread.


Update - they will have him on later in the show, approximately 9:45. 7 minutes.

Zera
10-29-2008, 07:51 PM
Never been to one. You associate the word "truth" with "troof"?

People call them troofers. I don't mind them when they keep it to themselves or at least try to not associate themselves as Paul supporters, but fact is that a lot of people associated them with the Paul campaign. That is why I have such hatred for them now.

Brassmouth
10-29-2008, 07:56 PM
conspiracy theorists are part of the stereotype of Ron Paul supporters. I think it's in everyone best interest to just fucking stop this.

QFT.

YouTube?

parke
10-29-2008, 08:31 PM
youtube:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=noMS40OhI8E#

Anti Federalist
10-29-2008, 11:57 PM
People call them troofers. I don't mind them when they keep it to themselves or at least try to not associate themselves as Paul supporters, but fact is that a lot of people associated them with the Paul campaign. That is why I have such hatred for them now.

No, short sighted morons, who still believe that government works for them, who still think that "reform" is possible and who fail to read or understand historical fact call us "troofers".

It is a pejorative, disparaging term, used to elicit a hostile response.

And you damn well know it.

Eric21ND
10-30-2008, 07:49 AM
I was thinking the EXACT Same thing...

Jeesh - we should have just bought time to play the Ron Paul: A New Hope YouTube video on all the major networks at the same time...

I was screaming from the mountain top to do this. :(

tremendoustie
10-30-2008, 08:37 AM
No, short sighted morons, who still believe that government works for them, who still think that "reform" is possible and who fail to read or understand historical fact call us "troofers".

It is a pejorative, disparaging term, used to elicit a hostile response.

And you damn well know it.

I'm not a "truther", but I agree that the word "troofer" is unhelpful and understandably offensive. If one wants to criticize someone's beliefs, they should do it on substance -- mockery does not encourage discussion, and it is often used to hide ignorance, and never to promote thought. As Paul supporters, I'm sure we can appreciate that.

Also, I am glad to see so many truthers promoting liberty, it is a credit to them, and a benefit to all of us. I do agree that it is in everyone's interest to promote "truth" ideas separately, so as not to be a stumbling block. I do welcome truthers to the movement, and I certainly don't hate them. I can see you becoming angry with those who weigh down the liberty message with the "truth" message -- but you must realize that most truthers are savy enough to promote these ideas separately, and their efforts are a great benefit to our cause.