Write Ins will Not Be Counted and Why Non-Voting Does Count

[mediahasyou]

Some states do not count write ins. The majority of states the candidate must file as a write in candidate. Since, Ron Paul does not want to run for office, the votes will not be counted.

Each year less and less people vote and give their consent to the system. This year is expecting record low voting turnout numbers simply because of dissatisfied people in the GOP with their candidate McCain and disgruntled Hilary supporters.

Going by a gut feeling people know the system is wrong. Election fraud, buying votes, ballot machine malfunctions, bribery and blind voting all contribute to the madness. Not to mention an act of voting is telling another how to live his or her's life.

Don't Vote. Each year voter turnout is recorded. However, write ins are only an act of consent and nothing more. Without consent the government loses legitamacy. And without legitamacy, the government loses power. Pleases don't vote. And as the stoic philosopher, Diogenes said: Abstain from Beans. (http://www.voluntaryist.com/articles/126a.php)

In matters of style, swim with the current; in matters of principle, stand like a rock.
Thomas Jefferson


Reasons for Non Voting:
* Grant No Man the Authority to Make You His Slave (http://www.voluntaryist.com/articles/126a.php)
* Why I Would Not Vote Against Hitler by Wendy McElroy (http://www.voluntaryist.com/articles/085b.php)
* Why I Refuse to Register by Carl Watner (http://www.voluntaryist.com/articles/100.php)
* Is Voting an Act of Violence? by Carl Watner (http://www.voluntaryist.com/articles/103.php)
* Non-Voting as an Act of Secession by Hans Sherrer (http://www.voluntaryist.com/articles/114.php)
* "Party Dialogue" from Neither Bullets nor Ballots (http://www.voluntaryist.com/nbnb/party_dialogue.php)
* Introduction from Dissenting Electorate (http://www.voluntaryist.com/nonvoting/intro_diss_elec.php)
* Ethics of Voting by George H. Smith (http://www.voluntaryist.com/nonvoting/ethics_of_voting.php)
* The Lesser of Two Evils is Still Evil by Carl Watner (http://www.voluntaryist.com/articles/85a.php)
* How To Vote For Liberty by Joe Sobran (http://www.voluntaryist.com/nonvoting/vote_for_liberty.php)
* Against Woman Suffrage by Lysander Spooner
(http://www.voluntaryist.com/spooner/againstwomansuffrage.php)

[mediahasyou]

Reasonable Answer:


Nonpolitical Libertarian Strategies:
1. Voluntaryism - People simply withdraw consent through nonvoting, taxes, and will not consent to being governed by force.
http://www.voluntaryist.com/articles/073.php

Example: Colonials in America declared their Independence of England and no longer gave consent to their governors.

2. Agorism - People use blackmarkets to weaken the government. Markets produce better products than the state so people choose markets to do the services of the state. Blackmarkets cannot be taxed which weakens the state.
http://flag.blackened.net/daver/anarchism/nlm/nlm5.html

Example: Agorism in colonial America helped them bring about revolution through ignoring laws such as the navigation acts and other taxes.

3. Passive Resistance - People passively resist the government. Police are known to initiate force against the innocent and nonviolent. Through media and the internet, the populace will see the testimony against the state.
http://www.voluntaryist.com/articles/027b.php

Example: Gandhi in Indian Revolution.

4. Education - People through learning and becoming smart tend to rebel. This is exactly why the slaves in America started to rebel. As a slave became smarter, that slave was worth more. However, that slave also attempted to escape more because he was smarter. Thus, slavery was dubbed the perculior institution.

Example: The enlightenment sparked the most revolutions in recorded history throughout the world.

[HenryKnoxFineBooks]

Here's a good way to look at it, from the NC section of the C4L site:

Just as I said many times before about writing in Ron Paul. McCain, Obama, and Barr are on the N.C. ballot; McKinney, Nader, and Moore are certified as write-in candidates. A write-in vote for Ron Paul, Ron Popeil, Chuck Baldwin, Chuck Norris, Pat Paulsen, Pat Armstrong, Neil Armstrong, Halle Berry, Marion Barry, Barry White, Barry Manilow, Ken Berry, Larry Storch, Forrest Tucker, Forrest Gump, Nathan Bedford Forrest, or Nathan Hale would each be equally ignored, uncounted, and wasted.

[RockEnds]

Don't Vote. Each year voter turnout is recorded. However, write ins are only an act of consent and nothing more. Without consent the government loses legitamacy. And without legitamacy, the government loses power. Pleases don't vote.

Having a birth certificate is consent. Paying taxes is consent. Using FRN's is consent. Not voting is an act of consent without resistance.

[Truth Warrior]

Statement of Purpose: Voluntaryists are advocates of non-political, non-violent strategies to achieve a free society. We reject electoral politics, in theory and in practice, as incompatible with libertarian principles. Governments must cloak their actions in an aura of moral legitimacy in order to sustain their power, and political methods invariably strengthen that legitimacy. Voluntaryists seek instead to delegitimize the State through education, and we advocate withdrawal of the cooperation and tacit consent on which State power ultimately depends.
http://www.voluntaryist.com/ ;)

[JohnJay]

California, Montana, and Louisiana all have Ron Paul electors registered with the Secretary of States -
Ron Paul write-ins will count in those states, especially California. RP is ON the ballot in Montana and Louisiana.

There may be other states as well.

[mediahasyou]

Having a birth certificate is consent. Paying taxes is consent. Using FRN's is consent. Not voting is an act of consent without resistance.

How to Fight Facism:
(Adam Kokesh)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AFfxv4shUHg&eurl=http://www.kokesh.blogspot.com/

[ItsTime]

Not voting the new Ron Paul Forums Fad. Sitting on your ass isnt going to get shit done either. The FACT is people count the votes not the non-votes. And the fact is that is all the sheep care about and a good way to set brush fires in the minds of sheep is to vote 3rd party.

[JohnJay]

"If you chose not to decide, you still have made a choice"

Free Will, Rush
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MYzGMxGq9rM

[mediahasyou]

"If you chose not to deciode, you still have made a choice"

Free Will, Rush
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MYzGMxGq9rM

Non voting is not a coercive one.

[haaaylee]

You better at least vote locally though.


Don't stay home, just leave "President" empty.


We've got a lot of good options otherwise. ..

[Arkris]

Some states do not count write ins. The majority of states the candidate must file as a write in candidate. Since, Ron Paul does not want to run for office, the votes will not be counted.

Each year less and less people vote and give their consent to the system. This year is expecting record low voting turnout numbers simply because of dissatisfied people in the GOP with their candidate McCain and disgruntled Hilary supporters.

Going by a gut feeling people know the system is wrong. Election fraud, buying votes, ballot machine malfunctions, bribery and blind voting all contribute to the madness. Not to mention an act of voting is telling another how to live his or her's life.

Don't Vote. Each year voter turnout is recorded. However, write ins are only an act of consent and nothing more. Without consent the government loses legitamacy. And without legitamacy, the government loses power. Pleases don't vote. And as the stoic philosopher, Diogenes said: Abstain from Beans. (http://www.voluntaryist.com/articles/126a.php)

In matters of style, swim with the current; in matters of principle, stand like a rock.
Thomas Jefferson


Reasons for Non Voting:
* Grant No Man the Authority to Make You His Slave (http://www.voluntaryist.com/articles/126a.php)
* Why I Would Not Vote Against Hitler by Wendy McElroy (http://www.voluntaryist.com/articles/085b.php)
* Why I Refuse to Register by Carl Watner (http://www.voluntaryist.com/articles/100.php)
* Is Voting an Act of Violence? by Carl Watner (http://www.voluntaryist.com/articles/103.php)
* Non-Voting as an Act of Secession by Hans Sherrer (http://www.voluntaryist.com/articles/114.php)
* "Party Dialogue" from Neither Bullets nor Ballots (http://www.voluntaryist.com/nbnb/party_dialogue.php)
* Introduction from Dissenting Electorate (http://www.voluntaryist.com/nonvoting/intro_diss_elec.php)
* Ethics of Voting by George H. Smith (http://www.voluntaryist.com/nonvoting/ethics_of_voting.php)
* The Lesser of Two Evils is Still Evil by Carl Watner (http://www.voluntaryist.com/articles/85a.php)
* How To Vote For Liberty by Joe Sobran (http://www.voluntaryist.com/nonvoting/vote_for_liberty.php)
* Against Woman Suffrage by Lysander Spooner
(http://www.voluntaryist.com/spooner/againstwomansuffrage.php)

I agree with you about write-in votes, that they really don't count, but I totally disagree about abstaining from voting. Although the non-voters are counted, the meaning behind their not voting isn't considered by most people to be a protest; They'll just think you were too busy watching MTV or youtube to pull yourself away to vote. They'll just assume that you like things the way they are and don't feel the need to vote.

In fact, the incumbents want you to not vote. The lower the turnout, the more likely it is for them to be reelected. And it's not just the incumbents that don't want you to vote, many politicians try to pander to a small group of core supporters, then use use attack ads to drive down the turnout of their opponents supporters. If you think your group of core supporters is bigger than your opponents then a mudslinging fight (driving down votes on both sides) is your best option for getting elected.

A vote for any registered third party will be counted, and will be interpreted as a protest vote against the status quo. Remember what Ron Paul said:



"For me, though, my advice — for what it's worth — is to vote! Reject the two candidates who demand perpetuation of the status quo and pick one of the alternatives that you have the greatest affinity to, based on the other issues. A huge vote for those running on principle will be a lot more valuable by sending a message that we've had enough and want real change rather than wasting one's vote on a supposed lesser of two evils," Rep. Ron Paul.

[LibertyEagle]

The turnout is going to be high. Non-voters will be lumped right in with the apathetic. If that's what you want, then go right ahead.

TPTB will be pleased.

[TastyWheat]

Their power doesn't lie with your vote, it lies with your apathy. Their power over you comes from your indifference to the exercising of that power. I talk to plenty of people at work who are apathetic and they're voting as if it's a civic duty. [This election] I'm voting in with the hope, as foolish as it may be, that the establishment will see it as a threat to their control. I'll give my vote where it has been earned.

[M House]

Look you could atleast vote for a different representative in congress unless you got a good one um....yeah well just take a brief look into that.