Republican Party in total Chaos/Free-fall

[Cowlesy]

The Party is going to be in tatters after our bludgeoning on November 4th.

Speaking to my fellow Republicans on here, all we can is throw up our hands and say "I told you so" to our fellow party members who rode the bomb all the way to impact.

They ignored Ron Paul, they ignored all the new blood we brought to the party for the traditionally republican ideas, they ignored our activism and they ignored the masses of young people who are unequivocally the future of this party.

They are getting exactly what they deserve.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/uselection2008/barackobama/3260074/Republican-fears-of-historic-Obama-landslide-unleash-civil-war-for-the-future-of-the-party.html

www.lawsonforcongress.com

[Sandra]

The republican Party wll have to restucture which is the perfect time for thr Revolution.

Revolt! Revolve! Evolve! Resolve!

[Dustancostine]

The Party is going to be in tatters after our bludgeoning on November 4th.

Speaking to my fellow Republicans on here, all we can is throw up our hands and say "I told you so" to our fellow party members who road the bomb all the way to impact.

They ignored Ron Paul, they ignored all the new blood we brought to the party for the traditionally republican ideas, they ignored our activism and they ignored the masses of young people who are unequivocally the future of this party.

They are getting exactly what they deserve.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/uselection2008/barackobama/3260074/Republican-fears-of-historic-Obama-landslide-unleash-civil-war-for-the-future-of-the-party.html

www.lawsonforcongress.com

Yesterday I got a text from a very good friend who is a Republican but not RP supporter. Though he didn't support RP he helped several RP MUs learn the process and was friendly and fair to them which was really nice. He is also volunteering for the McCain Camp. up in PA.

I get a text from him yesterday asking this:


"We really need our Ron Paul supporters to Get Out the Vote for McCain in Nevada.

My response:


"There is a better chance of Hell freezing over there, than that happening. If McCain needed the RP vote in Neveda then he should have thought about that before his people cheated the Ron Paul supporters who put in 18 months of physical and emotional energy into the process there."


His Repsonse:



"Well they are going to have to suffer the same fate as everyone else if Obama wins"


My Response:



"Well there are those that do not see a difference between the two and are equally worried about our county with either of them."



Tell me. You cheat and steal, put us down, then want our vote? Are they really that stupid?

This is going to be a lesson to the Republican party, beat your members and they will not vote for you.

--Dustan

[jave27]

We really need a Newt Gingrich-type person who can rally the party in the right direction.

[DAFTEK]

lol. I cant wait for Nov4th to be over with and tell my fellow republicans " I told you so" :D

[Truth Warrior]

"The instinct to command others, in its primitive essence, is a carnivorous, altogether bestial and savage instinct. Under the influence of the mental development of man, it takes on a somewhat more ideal form and becomes somewhat ennobled, presenting itself as the instrument of reason and the devoted servant of that abstraction, or political fiction, which is called the public good. But in its essence it remains just as baneful, and it becomes even more so when, with the application of science, it extends its scope and intensifies the power of its action. If there is a devil in history, it is this power principle." -- Mikhail Aleksandrovich Bakunin

[ItsTime]

Ill be bringing my "I told you so" speeches to the gop meetings after the 4th

[Time for Change]

Are you willing to burn that bridge with what appears to be a really good person?

The person went out of his way to assist you...be certain to decline in a respectful way, keeping in mind the selfless assistance the person gave you.

Maybe you can assist in some small way so it looks as if you are grateful.

Just my $0.02

[klamath]

Now will be the fight to see how the future coalition of the Republican party comes together. It looks like a lot of neocons are running to the Obama camp because they were never in the party for principals of the party but as a way to power. Since the democrats will be holding the power that is where they are going to migrate. The real fight for the core of the republican party will be between the theocratic and libertarian branches.

[nobody's_hero]

By that time [of the destruction of the neo-republican party], B.J. Lawson will have shown the democrats in his district that the free-market works (or at least, this will give them time to open their ears to the message of liberty as a solution).

I'm hoping to see more Democrats jump on this liberty wagon as well. Maybe that's asking for too much, but I know there are some among our ranks now.

Maybe by that time, we can ditch labels altogether.

Oh, I can dream, right?

[angelatc]

they ignored all the new blood we brought to the party for the traditionally republican ideas, they ignored our activism and they ignored the masses of young people who are unequivocally the future of this party.




I read an article the other day that expressed that exact sentiment. It said the Republican GOP had slammed the door in the faces of it's newest and most enthusiastic members, without mentioning any names though.

My thought was that not only did they do that, they cheated and lied in order to maintain control, proving they weren't worthy of support.

Die, die, die.

We'll get started on the CPR as soon as the Democrats hand you your asses on a platter.

[PatriotOne]

Speaking to my fellow Republicans on here, all we can is throw up our hands and say "I told you so" to our fellow party members who road the bomb all the way to impact.

I love the metaphor..."road the bomb all the way to impact". LOL. btw, it should be rode, not road :p

[Cowlesy]

I love the metaphor..."road the bomb all the way to impact". LOL. btw, it should be rode, not road :p

you got me on that one :)

[slacker921]

I love the metaphor..."road the bomb all the way to impact". LOL. btw, it should be rode, not road :p

except.. the bomb was a dud. If it were an effective one it would do damage. In this case they rode a dud all the way to impact.

My only problem is the folks who are leading the GOP locally and at the state level that I've had dealings with will NEVER admit that the whole neo-conservative push in the GOP was wrong and what caused them to lose in 2006 and 2008. They will not give up and walk away or change. In their mind they are right (and many of them think they are on a mission from God).

I'm planning on going to my local GOP meeting after the election.. and letting them know that I'll get heavily involved if they are willing to change... otherwise I'm going to get heavily involved in the Libertarian party. This should carry some weight this year because according to polls the Republicans in NC are going to lose at least one seat in Congress and possibly the chance at Governor - by the same percentage of voters who are going Libertarian.

[Dary]

If you want, you can digg it up here:

http://anonym.to/?http://digg.com/2008_us_elections/Civil_War_for_the_GOP

[Zera]

Like I've said... It's better if Obama wins for us so we can try to get the GOP a little more like what it used to be at their weakest moments. Plus, the "I told you so," and the "You had the chance," remarks will be great when he wins.

[Athan]

My response: "Don't blame me, I voted Ron Paul."

[inibo]

I'm still trying to maintain at least a semblance of good relations with the local GOP since they were tolerant, if not supportive, of our efforts. Once the dust clears after November I'm going to be telling them "told you so" as politely as I can. My district's GOP candidate for congress, who is by no means a RP Republican, was strong against the bailout. For that he deserves at least a few props and a little bit of my money. Well, that, and he's running against Chris Van Hollen. I'd get behind Hitler or Stalin if they were running against that POS. :)

[Mattsa]

Now will be the fight to see how the future coalition of the Republican party comes together. It looks like a lot of neocons are running to the Obama camp because they were never in the party for principals of the party but as a way to power. Since the democrats will be holding the power that is where they are going to migrate. The real fight for the core of the republican party will be between the theocratic and libertarian branches.

Very interesting this

There was an interview with a NeoCon on BBC Newsnight defecting to the Obama camp the other night.

They know the game is up, so they are just defecting to their real politcial home, socialism.

TRAGIC!

The Republican party is dead in the water. The NeoCons rotted it from the inside out and destroyed it. Now the main protaganists are running to their new host, the Democrat Party. they'll have plenty of good company.

The Republican party and it's ideals have been totally destroyed.

It's absolutely shocking.

Before I get too smug, I should point out that the situation in the UK is much worse. We have a Conservative MP and shadow Chancellor of the Exchequor in bed with Peter Mandelson, a satanist homosexual labour party fascist, a Russian oligarch and billionare and a Rothschild hedge fund manager all together on a yacht in Corfu.

The mind is repelled

[Lord Xar]

I often wondered how Bush could completely destroy the Republican party and be totally unaware of what he was doing. I tend to believe he serves a higher authority in the globalist agenda and has no loyatly to the republicans he has destroyed.

If the wars and horrible spending and bad policies continue, then we can rest assured something is leading this circus to the cliff.

Phuk you bush and you dope Republicans who destroyed this party. Appreciate it.

[ProBlue33]

I read an article the other day that expressed that exact sentiment. It said the Republican GOP had slammed the door in the faces of it's newest and most enthusiastic members, without mentioning any names though.

My thought was that not only did they do that, they cheated and lied in order to maintain control, proving they weren't worthy of support.

Die, die, die.

We'll get started on the CPR as soon as the Democrats hand you your asses on a platter.

QFT

Let them twist in the wind from the rope the GOP gave them.

[Lovecraftian4Paul]

I expect I'll be singing "another one bites the dust!" as neo-con hacks from McCain down get smashed in another week. This will make a good many of the rats jump ship or at least fall into idleness for awhile in the GOP, maybe giving us a chance at taking over sections of the party across the country. Whether you're for third parties or the GOP, this ought to be given a shot if the outcome on Nov. 4 is what we think it's going to be.

We may be able to either take over the entire party, or at least break off the parts we do take over and roll them over into a liberty third party someday, effectively finishing the Republican Party off for good.

[Malakai]

Most republicans "expected" us to just throw in the towel and vote mccain come november. Even my uncle.

As disastrous as a hardcore socialist president will be, I cannot in good conscience vote for mccain for anything, ever. I always see 3 things whenever I see his name, "bomb bomb bomb, bomb bomb iran" "yes we should stay in iraq for 100 years" "I think interest rates should be 0% all the time".

Last is from one of the primary debates, an answer brain-liquefyingly dumb to an intelligent question about economic policy by RP. 0% interest = free worthless paper lol

[tonesforjonesbones]

There will be nothing left of the republic to work WITH...why can't you see this/ The government will be re constructed and we won't have a cCONSTUTION anymore. the komrades dispise the constitution. tones

[Brian]

To be fair we work equally hard against Obama as we do McCain out here in the Silver State. :p

[JohnJay]

Told you so GOP.

http://i432.photobucket.com/albums/qq47/panamajohn/paulownsmccain.gif

[amy31416]

There will be nothing left of the republic to work WITH...why can't you see this/ The government will be re constructed and we won't have a cCONSTUTION anymore. the komrades dispise the constitution. tones

Tones, you lost all credibility when you started pimping McCain/Palin. Why in the world would anyone take your word for things when you believe that the apocalypse is nigh and Palin is the one to bring it? Or that she's some sort of savior or whatever.

Logic is not your strong point.

[RonPaulVolunteer]

If only we could organize. But there's so much infighting in our ranks. If we organized and hired some real political guns, we could form a new party and take over in 2012 or 2016. Alas, it will never happen. It will never happen.

[tnvoter]

Truth. =)


The Party is going to be in tatters after our bludgeoning on November 4th.

Speaking to my fellow Republicans on here, all we can is throw up our hands and say "I told you so" to our fellow party members who rode the bomb all the way to impact.

They ignored Ron Paul, they ignored all the new blood we brought to the party for the traditionally republican ideas, they ignored our activism and they ignored the masses of young people who are unequivocally the future of this party.

They are getting exactly what they deserve.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/uselection2008/barackobama/3260074/Republican-fears-of-historic-Obama-landslide-unleash-civil-war-for-the-future-of-the-party.html

www.lawsonforcongress.com

[Truth Warrior]

If only we could organize. But there's so much infighting in our ranks. If we organized and hired some real political guns, we could form a new party and take over in 2012 or 2016. Alas, it will never happen. It will never happen. The MINORITY of "We the People" that actually votes tends to be a very "splintery" bunch. ;)

[ClockwiseSpark]

"Win or lose, there is a ready made conservative candidate waiting in the wings. Sarah Palin is not the new Iain Duncan Smith, she is the new Ronald Reagan."

So they think Palin will save them in 2012? These people are totally clueless. :rolleyes:

[JohnJay]

I am not so quick to dismiss that Ron Paul would necessarily not be around in 2012.

RP is a pretty healthy 72 - as opposed to McCain.

[Dary]

Here are a few pictures of a bathroom refurbish that I just helped a friend complete.

Before.
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3147/2976218980_a3c9893f55.jpg

Garbage.
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3235/2976218984_52c90640ea.jpg

After.
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3165/2976218976_bbf6f9c489.jpg

Not bad huh?

[angelatc]

Here are a few pictures of a bathroom refurbish that I just helped a friend complete.



Not bad huh?



Very nice. Kind of surprised they didn't change the faucet! It's a nice faucet though.

[Dary]

Very nice. Kind of surprised they didn't change the faucet! It's a nice faucet though.

Thanks.

The faucet and the light switch cover were the only things in the whole bathroom we kept. We ripped everything out down to the studs. Even some of them had to go as there was some water damage and the termites got into them.

But we rebuilt that whole damn thing and it really came out nice.

[LittleLightShining]

But we rebuilt that whole damn thing and it really came out nice.
I like your analogy :)

I'm thinking positively about the future of the GOP in Vermont and my role in it.

[ProBlue33]

Here are a few pictures of a bathroom refurbish that I just helped a friend complete.

Before.
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3147/2976218980_a3c9893f55.jpg

Garbage.
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3235/2976218984_52c90640ea.jpg

After.
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3165/2976218976_bbf6f9c489.jpg

Not bad huh?


So are you saying 2004 is the old before "Bush" bathroom, 2008 is the "McCain" garbage year, 2012 is the newly renovated GOP?

If you are, great illustration, why vote for garbage?

[Cowlesy]

So they think Palin will save them in 2012? These people are totally clueless. :rolleyes:

I just don't see how the Palin thing is going to last until 2012. Just another stupid party fad, and a losing one at that.

[ClockwiseSpark]

I just don't see how the Palin thing is going to last until 2012. Just another stupid party fad, and a losing one at that.

I hope you're right.

[slacker921]

I just don't see how the Palin thing is going to last until 2012. Just another stupid party fad, and a losing one at that.

I plan on going to the local GOP meetings after this election to try to get a feel for where they're headed (and to give my 2 cents..). If they're going to continue on the same track then I'm outta there and will take many friends and family with me. Where will we go though?

I'll probably work on growing the Libertarian party in NC.. it's not a perfect solution, but far better than supporting the dumbasses that are currently running the GOP. If they're going to "stay the course" then any effort put forth towards supporting the GOP is wasted effort.

[Theocrat]

I remember during a FOX News Republican Presidential debate last year where Dr. Paul argued with Mike Huckabee about our mistake in Iraq (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bAK1Gyb6ra0). Congressman Paul made the point that the GOP had lost elections recently and would lose the next one if they didn't change their foreign policy. It seems apparent to me that Dr. Paul's warning will be fulfilled this week when Obama wins against McCain. The GOP has become greedy, obstinate, and pathetic, and they deserve to be defeated in this election.

[puppetmaster]

LOL...I was just invited to dinner for Nevada Gov. Jim Gibbons. It is on the 6th so I will get to listen to the GOP hacks complaining about all kinds of reasons they lost...I hope they bring up Ron Paul and the state convention, because at that point I may get tossed out!! or who knows maybe I can convert some more folks!!

[mrkurtz]

There will be nothing left of the republic to work WITH...why can't you see this/ The government will be re constructed and we won't have a cCONSTUTION anymore. the komrades dispise the constitution. tones

:p:p Funniest thing I've seen all day. You're always reliable for a good laugh, T4JB.

[TER]

I remember during a FOX News Republican Presidential debate last year where Dr. Paul argued with Mike Huckabee about our mistake in Iraq (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bAK1Gyb6ra0). Congressman Paul made the point that the GOP had lost elections recently and would lose the next one if they didn't change their foreign policy. It seems apparent to me that Dr. Paul's warning will be fulfilled this week when Obama wins against McCain. The GOP has become greedy, obstinate, and pathetic, and they deserve to be defeated in this election.


+1

[Join The Paul Side]

My response: "Don't blame me, I voted Ron Paul."

Indeed. I wrote in Ron Paul. I plan to tell them:

"I did vote Republican. Just not for YOUR Republican."

:D

[Anti Federalist]

Indeed. I wrote in Ron Paul. I plan to tell them:

"I did vote Republican. Just not for YOUR Republican."

:D

+1

Hey, that's pretty good.

I'm gonna say it three times and keep it.:D

[revolutionary8]

i remember during a fox news republican presidential debate last year where dr. Paul argued with mike huckabee about our mistake in iraq (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bak1gyb6ra0). Congressman paul made the point that the gop had lost elections recently and would lose the next one if they didn't change their foreign policy. It seems apparent to me that dr. Paul's warning will be fulfilled this week when obama wins against mccain. The gop has become greedy, obstinate, and pathetic, and they deserve to be defeated in this election.

blowback.

[Join The Paul Side]

+1

Hey, that's pretty good.

I'm gonna say it three times and keep it.:D


Woot! :D

[zadrock]

I'm still trying to maintain at least a semblance of good relations with the local GOP since they were tolerant, if not supportive, of our efforts. Once the dust clears after November I'm going to be telling them "told you so" as politely as I can. My district's GOP candidate for congress, who is by no means a RP Republican, was strong against the bailout. For that he deserves at least a few props and a little bit of my money. Well, that, and he's running against Chris Van Hollen. I'd get behind Hitler or Stalin if they were running against that POS. :)

Steve Hudson is endorsed by Ron Paul. He was very excited to get the endorsement. I met him when RP came to College Park last month to endorse five candidates for Congress here.

I'm glad your local GOP was helpful. We (the five liberty candidates) have gotten very little help. MD GOP has focused completely on Andy Harris, who is going to turn District 1 blue.

Z

[Primbs]

I remember during a FOX News Republican Presidential debate last year where Dr. Paul argued with Mike Huckabee about our mistake in Iraq (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bAK1Gyb6ra0). Congressman Paul made the point that the GOP had lost elections recently and would lose the next one if they didn't change their foreign policy. It seems apparent to me that Dr. Paul's warning will be fulfilled this week when Obama wins against McCain. The GOP has become greedy, obstinate, and pathetic, and they deserve to be defeated in this election.

Ironically, I think Obama will probably keep us in Iraq for a long time as well. He has said recently he would defer the the generals on the ground.

I could see a backlash with the anti war left revolting against the democrats in 2010.

[LittleLightShining]

I could see a backlash with the anti war left revolting against the democrats in 2010.This is what I'm hoping to see.

[Sarge]

My vote sent for Barr my only real choice in AZ. Took the heat but we have to start somewhere to change the system. I don't feel it is a wasted vote. I feel it would have been wasted if, I had voted for O or M.

If people see a much higher independent vote, we might start to see progress in the future.

[tremendoustie]

My vote sent for Barr my only real choice in AZ. Took the heat but we have to start somewhere to change the system. I don't feel it is a wasted vote. I feel it would have been wasted if, I had voted for O or M.

If people see a much higher independent vote, we might start to see progress in the future.

qft, third parties need those votes for the next time around

[georgiaboy]

Yep, with both R's and D's becoming more and more similar - who could've pictured Colin Powell and Scott McClellan both endorsing Obailout? - it's either Republicans find your roots, or time for a third party to rise to prominence on a classically liberal, non-interventionist platform. I too predict Obama will disappoint anti-war liberals, so the non-interventionist platform is a key differentiator.

Proudly touching the screen for Barr/Root tomorrow, along with my R-congressman (voted against bailout), L-senator (byebyeChambliss), L (where possible) and R (where I know them) downticket.

[georgiaboy]

Also, I predict tomorrow's election to be an Obama LANDSLIDE. Polls and the media are trying to keep it as close as they can so people will still pay attention, but it's gonna be UGLY.

[acptulsa]

We are doing more than showing them how to lose, I believe and hope. We will also be showing them how to win. I have much reason to believe that we will get two very liberty-minded candidates elected to state and county office in my very district.

Neither has run on a neocon platform, you see. So, when the neocons ask how it happened and what was done right, I will take particular pleasure in telling them. You neocons hate them and you hate them because they won't "play ball" with your thievous asses. Just as long as you keep picking candidates you hate, the G.O.P. will be fine!

[Dianne]

Dustan, I loved your responses. Since when does the GOP need our group of lunatics; the ones with the tin foil hats as they portrayed us?

I received a letter from McCain's NC election committee telling me where to vote, etc. I responded with a "no thank you". I voted for the only conservative on the NC ballot, that being Barr.

[FindLiberty]

Dianne, I hope you didn't put a stamp on that prepaid postage envelope they sent 'ya cause it just helps you know.


...Polls and the media are trying to keep it as close as they can so people will still pay attention...

Yea georiaboy, attention to the side show and drawn away from 3rd party choices.

RIP GOP - long live the Ron Paul r3VOLolution

[Nate]

There will be nothing left of the republic to work WITH...why can't you see this/ The government will be re constructed and we won't have a cCONSTUTION anymore. the komrades dispise the constitution. tones


Go somewhere else and schill for your fascist Pres/VP ticket. Bush has done more damage to the constitution than any President in the history of the USA. McCain will be no different and if you think that Palin will have any influence on him or his policies then you are an idiot. Obama and McCain are the same damn thing. The fact that I still have to explain this to you on this board is proof that you didn't understand a damn thing about what this movement is all about. Go away and have fun at your Hitle.. I mean McCain rally. You are supporting fascism. How is that any different than the idiotic Obama supporters who vote for his communism? Why can't you see this? They are 2 sides of the same coin. WAKE UP!!!!!!!!! You are part of the problem!!

[acptulsa]

Go somewhere else and schill for your fascist Pres/VP ticket... You are part of the problem!!

But--then how would she satisfy her twisted desire to be pwned every day?

[LittleLightShining]

In an interesting turn of events it seems the far-right and libertarian leaning Republicans in VT are beginning to organize a second "Take Back Vermont" campaign independent of the mainline GOP and Ron Paul Republicans.

The first "Take Back Vermont" campaign was spurred over the civil union controversy and quckly gained momentum among native Vermonters. However, they failed to gain long term traction in my opinion because that became the main issue. The point that could have gained much more widespread support-- a return to conservative ideals, smaller government and rejection of activist judicial legislation-- was overshadowed by politically incorrect position on gay rights.

Take Back Vermont in 2000 (http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m1282/is_19_52/ai_65805906)

Take Back Vermont in 2006 (http://www.vermontguardian.com/commentary/092006/Sept29Editorial.shtml)

The next couple of years are going to be very interesting in Vermont.

[Carole]

We really need a Newt Gingrich-type person who can rally the party in the right direction.
Gingrich is fake.

[acptulsa]

Gingrich is fake.

Oh, he's a real enough threat to real conservatism.

If you libertarian-minded types want to know if he can be depended upon, ask some evangelicals how quickly he learned to say things they wanted to hear--and how few of his promises to them he subsequently kept.

The guy's an opportunistic crook.

[Carole]

Ironically, I think Obama will probably keep us in Iraq for a long time as well. He has said recently he would defer the the generals on the ground.

I could see a backlash with the anti war left revolting against the democrats in 2010.
Even Hillary said we could not leave before 2013. They are building all those base where our guys will be stationed to police the mid east.

Obama will not stop this. But he will send some of those poor folks to Afghanistan.

[kahless]

Article says what I fear, Sarah Palin taking leadership of the party and receiving the nomination in 2012. Enough with Sarah Palin already. She sold out by being on McCain's ticket and parrotting his big government neocon rhetoric.

The voters have clearly spoken. The Republican party and neoconservatism is dead. It is now time for us real Conservatives to begin taking back the party. We can allow no room at the table for these failed neocons.

btw - the big problem for us is we do not have a news outlet like the libs have MSNBC and Foxnews that is dominated by these failed neocons like Newt Gingrich, Karal Rove and their supporters like Sean Hannity.

[Original_Intent]

Gingrich is fake.

I think Gingrich and Barr would get along together. They both seem very similar to me (grandstanding, self-serving, power hungry, lacking principle).

The Contract with America was such a smokescreen. I am almsot suprised Barr has not offered "A Second Contract with America".

[gjdavis60]

Is there not opportunity in a solidly defeated, undermined, vacated Republican party for liberty-minded people to begin to fill the void and change the direction of the party? Even in a weakened state, Republicans still enjoy access to the system that third-parties can only dream of. Best case, a reinvented Republican party represents an expedient vehicle to visibility and political relevance. Is this not Dr. Paul's approach? Is it attainable?

I am voting against every Republican on the ballot, regardless of who opposes them.

[ProBlue33]

Is there not opportunity in a solidly defeated, undermined, vacated Republican party for liberty-minded people to begin to fill the void and change the direction of the party? Even in a weakened state, Republicans still enjoy access to the system that third-parties can only dream of. Best case, a reinvented Republican party represents an expedient vehicle to visibility and political relevance. Is this not Dr. Paul's approach? Is it attainable?

I am voting against every Republican on the ballot, regardless of who opposes them.

Nice - I like it