Willie Nelson, Jesse Ventura To Host Anti-War, Pro-Peace Event tomorrow

[PatriotOne]

This event is tomorrow and will be streamed live at Prisonplanet.com. Anyone attending the event from here? Wish I could be there. I imagine this is going to be a kick ass event considering who's going to be giving speeches and all.

Willie Nelson, Jesse Ventura To Host Anti-War, Pro-Peace Event

Peaceful Solution, Peace Revolution, Take Back America event to be streamed live online at PrisonPlanet.com and Infowars.com

Prison Planet
Thursday, October 23, 2008

Willie Nelson, Jesse Ventura, Alex Jones and Jimmie Vaughan will all appear live at the Backyard Live Oak Amphitheater in Austin, Texas this Sunday 26th for the Peaceful Solution, Peace Revolution, Take Back America event, which will be streamed live on the Internet for free.

As well as a fantastic helping of live music from Willie Nelson and others, Nelson, Jones and Ventura will each give a speech and conduct a question and answer session during the course of the evening.

The title for the event originates from a lyric from Willie Nelson’s “Peaceful Solution” song.

The event will be video streamed live on Infowars.com and Prison Planet.com from 9pm CST onwards for free.

Both Willie Nelson and former Minnesota Governor Jesse Ventura have been vociferously outspoken in recent months against the 9/11 cover-up, the war in Iraq and the recent Wall Street bailout.

Nelson made headlines earlier this year after he told the Alex Jones Show he thought the twin towers were imploded like condemned Las Vegas casino buildings.

Ventura has been similarly forceful in his comments about the attacks throughout 2008, citing his training as a Basic Underwater Demolition Seal to call into question the freefall collapse of the towers and Building 7.

For press representatives who wish to talk with Alex Jones, Jesse Ventura or any of the event organizers, time will be made on Sunday afternoon for interviews. Please contact aaron@infowars.com to arrange interviews in advance.

[ItsTime]

Too bad Willie backed war candidate Obama.

[QueenB4Liberty]

I wish I was going!

[PatriotOne]

Too bad Willie backed war candidate Obama.

He was originally a Kucinich supporter for his anti-war stance. But since he wasn't succesful, he stated he was going to support whoever came out on top between Hillary and Obama. Back in the days (January 08 or so) he made those comments he was less informed and believed Hillary and Obama was anti-war. I think he has become more informed since then by people like Alex Jones. Here's one article in January:

http://www.spinner.com/2008/01/31/willie-nelson-has-the-secret-to-staying-around-forever/

Are you supporting any particular candidate?

I liked Dennis Kucinich, but he dropped out. I like Obama and Hillary, so I'll wait to see which one of those folks come out on top. But they've both changed their positions on the war, I think, in the last several months. Dennis never did have to change his position, because he was always against it. But as for who I'll support, I don't really know yet.

[PatriotOne]

I wish I was going!

I'm happy AJ is streaming it live. Not quite as exciting as being there but more exciting than just reading about the event later :)

[libertarian4321]

Too bad Willie backed war candidate Obama.

I know its fashionable on these forums to claim that McCain and Obama are exactly the same on every issue, but I suspect Willie isn't trying to appear fashionable to zealots on the Ron Paul Forums. He's supporting Obama because Obama is demonstrably less of a warmonger than John "bomb bomb bomb Iran" McWar.

Obama did oppose the war. Yes, I know, he didn't get to vote on it because he was still a state senator at the time, but he DID openly oppose the war. That matters to a lot of people (including this old soldier).

I'm not a fan of either candidate, or either major party, but this "both parties and both candidates are the same on everything" stuff is intellectually vacant...

[literatim]

I know its fashionable on these forums to claim that McCain and Obama are exactly the same on every issue, but I suspect Willie isn't trying to appear fashionable to zealots on the Ron Paul Forums. He's supporting Obama because Obama is demonstrably less of a warmonger than John "bomb bomb bomb Iran" McWar.

Obama did oppose the war. Yes, I know, he didn't get to vote on it because he was still a state senator at the time, but he DID openly oppose the war. That matters to a lot of people (including this old soldier).

I'm not a fan of either candidate, or either major party, but this "both parties and both candidates are the same on everything" stuff is intellectually vacant...

The same Obama who wants us to invade Pakistan.

[libertarian4321]

The same Obama who wants us to invade Pakistan.

I didn't have a problem with going into Afghanistan to get the people who attacked us on 9-11.

The same holds for our "ally" Pakistan- if they harbor the guy who attacked us, we should just do what we need to do to get him

I do, however, have a real problem with pointless or "preemptive" wars like Iraq (or Iran- which McCain seems to want to invade).

I'm an old soldier. I don't have a problem fighting for my country- going after those who have attacked and killed our citizens, but I do not accept the neocon doctrine of military misadventure for the good of Halliburton or "war for the Hell of it."

[PatriotOne]

I know its fashionable on these forums to claim that McCain and Obama are exactly the same on every issue, but I suspect Willie isn't trying to appear fashionable to zealots on the Ron Paul Forums. He's supporting Obama because Obama is demonstrably less of a warmonger than John "bomb bomb bomb Iran" McWar.


He is not supporting Obama. At the very most he would vote for him as the lessor of 2 evils. At this point in time, I doubt even that to be the case. He was a Kucinich supporter and only donated to his campaign.

I seriously doubt you will hear Willie Nelson praise Obama tomorrow as Obama's actions far outweigh his early rhetoric :p

[libertarian4321]

He is not supporting Obama. At the very most he would vote for him as the lessor of 2 evils. At this point in time, I doubt even that to be the case. He was a Kucinich supporter and only donated to his campaign.

I seriously doubt you will hear Willie Nelson praise Obama tomorrow as Obama's actions far outweigh his early rhetoric :p

Well, obviously Ron Paul and DK were the most outspoken anti-war candidates- unfortunately, neither of them was nominated.

However, of the two remaining candidates who have a chance, many who are vehemently anti-war will side with the guy who they think less likely to start another stupid war- and that would be Obama.

[PatriotOne]

I didn't have a problem with going into Afghanistan to get the people who attacked us on 9-11.

The same holds for our "ally" Pakistan- if they harbor the guy who attacked us, we should just do what we need to do to get him

I do, however, have a real problem with pointless or "preemptive" wars like Iraq (or Iran- which McCain seems to want to invade).

I'm an old soldier. I don't have a problem fighting for my country- going after those who have attacked and killed our citizens, but I do not accept the neocon doctrine of military misadventure for the good of Halliburton or "war for the Hell of it."

There's no reasoning with someone who still thinks Osama Bin Laden atacked us. You are making decisions based on a false information. Even Willie Nelson knows the towers were brought down demolition style.

[PatriotOne]

Well, obviously Ron Paul and DK were the most outspoken anti-war candidates- unfortunately, neither of them was nominated.

However, of the two remaining candidates who have a chance, many who are vehemently anti-war will side with the guy who they think less likely to start another stupid war- and that would be Obama.

I agree with that but it is all based on lies. Obama and McCain will do what they are told to do by the people who put them in power in the first place.

[inibo]

Obama did oppose the war. Yes, I know, he didn't get to vote on it because he was still a state senator at the time, but he DID openly oppose the war. That matters to a lot of people (including this old soldier)

And yet he votes for continuing to fund it.

I don't claim Obama and McCain are the same on every issue. Each has his own agenda of evil and differing methods to bankrupt the country.

[libertarian4321]

And yet he votes for continuing to fund it.

I don't claim Obama and McCain are the same on every issue. Each has his own agenda of evil and differing methods to bankrupt the country.

There is a HUGE difference between someone who willingly starts a war, and someone who agrees to fund beans and bullets to the soldiers once they are already in harms way.

[PatriotOne]

And yet he votes for continuing to fund it.

I don't claim Obama and McCain are the same on every issue. Each has his own agenda of evil and differing methods to bankrupt the country.

Yes. We are given false choices to make it look like we are actually making decisions as American voters. BOTH backed by the same people.

[libertarian4321]

There's no reasoning with someone who still thinks Osama Bin Laden atacked us. You are making decisions based on a false information. Even Willie Nelson knows the towers were brought down demolition style.

Oh Hell, I didn't know you were a Truther, lol.

If you are a Truther, you're right, rational discussion isn't possible...

[PatriotOne]

There is a HUGE difference between someone who willingly starts a war, and someone who agrees to fund beans and bullets to the soldiers once they are already in harms way.

Yeah...might as well feed them while they are getting shot at. How benevolent of him.

[PatriotOne]

Oh Hell, I didn't know you were a Truther, lol.

If you are a Truther, you're right, rational discussion isn't possible...


I'm a factualist so I am capable of having a rational discussion with other factualists. But it takes two factualists to have a rational discussion and obviously you don't know the facts.

[libertarian4321]

I'm a factualist so I am capable of having a rational discussion with other factualists. But it takes two factualists to have a rational discussion and obviously you don't know the facts.

Dude, if you are a Truther, have the balls to come out and say it...

[jbuttell]

I know its fashionable on these forums to claim that McCain and Obama are exactly the same on every issue, but I suspect Willie isn't trying to appear fashionable to zealots on the Ron Paul Forums. He's supporting Obama because Obama is demonstrably less of a warmonger than John "bomb bomb bomb Iran" McWar.

Obama did oppose the war. Yes, I know, he didn't get to vote on it because he was still a state senator at the time, but he DID openly oppose the war. That matters to a lot of people (including this old soldier).

I'm not a fan of either candidate, or either major party, but this "both parties and both candidates are the same on everything" stuff is intellectually vacant...

No, it isn't fashionable to claim McCain and Obama are exactly the same on every issue - that's just an over simplification. However, the sum of their ideas amount to the same pile of bullshit.

What is fashionable, is for Democrats to claim they're against a war, yet vote for that very war and continually fund it. It was fashionable for George Bush to be against policing the world, after watching Bill Clinton mischievously performing military operations in the middle east and around the world.

It didn't take courage for Obama to oppose a war when he was in no position of significance to actually cast a vote.

So no, I disagree that the "both parties and both candidates are the same on everything" is intellectually vacant. If more people would realize that they're very much on the same page, we'd actually be able to form a substantial revolution against them. Until then, if people think they have a fighting chance supporting one over another, we'll continue to spiral out of control.

[TastyWheat]

Any more info on this? What time is it? Is it free? For once I might be able to attend an event. I'm so disappointed my meetup didn't know about this.

[PatriotOne]

Any more info on this? What time is it? Is it free? For once I might be able to attend an event. I'm so disappointed my meetup didn't know about this.

I don't know if this is the only place to buy tickets but it's what's linked at the venue itself.

http://www.gettix.net/concert/texas/?event_id=2616

[PatriotOne]

Dude, if you are a Truther, have the balls to come out and say it...

LOL...I think I have been more than clear how I feel about 9/11 in my 4000 posts on this forum. I suggest you have the balls to go look at the facts instead of basing your reality and decisions on a pack of lies. Yeah...it's pretty scary shit knowing that our own government has been taken over by the most vile people on earth but the truth isn't pretty sometimes and people like you are part of the problem, not part of the solution.

[Suzu]

I didn't have a problem with going into Afghanistan to get the people who attacked us on 9-11. The same holds for our "ally" Pakistan - if they harbor the guy who attacked us, we should just do what we need to do to get him.
When can we stop repeating the lie that Osama bin Laden is still alive? He's been in his grave since late 2001. It's common knowledge in Afghanistan and Pakistan. Benazir Bhutto mentions his murder casually in this interview (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UnychOXj9Tg) from Nov. 2, 2007 (and she herself was killed 7 weeks later).

[PatriotOne]

When can we stop repeating the lie that Osama bin Laden is still alive? He's been in his grave since late 2001. It's common knowledge in Afghanistan and Pakistan. Benazir Bhutto mentions his murder casually in this interview (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UnychOXj9Tg) from Nov. 2, 2007 (and she herself was killed 7 weeks later).

I suppose when they no longer have a use for him. They can't catch him and hold a trial because they have no evidence against him. The best they can hope for is that he disappears from the publics consiousness or they will have to fake his death for the sake of credibility (shakes head in wonder at who would actually believe them at this point).

[ItsTime]

So Willie is antiwar if its a republican war and pro war when its a dem war? We all know Obama wants to expand the war on terror adding troops into another failed war in Afghanistan and even going into Pakistan.

Obama is pro war period. Just because he "said" he was against the Iraq war does not mean he is a PEACE candidate. He is very much a WAR candidate.

[D.H.]

I think Willie is anti war period. I can't see him marching in lock step with anyone and that includes AJ & Ventura. He is the one who invited Obama to speak at Farm Aid a few years back.

Will he vote for him? I don't know, but if he thinks farms will be helped I bet he will. He recently (along with others) asked for $1 billion of the bailout money for farms.

http://www.reuters.com/article/pressRelease/idUS228374+25-Sep-2008+PRN20080925

[nbhadja]

I didn't have a problem with going into Afghanistan to get the people who attacked us on 9-11.

The same holds for our "ally" Pakistan- if they harbor the guy who attacked us, we should just do what we need to do to get him

I do, however, have a real problem with pointless or "preemptive" wars like Iraq (or Iran- which McCain seems to want to invade).

I'm an old soldier. I don't have a problem fighting for my country- going after those who have attacked and killed our citizens, but I do not accept the neocon doctrine of military misadventure for the good of Halliburton or "war for the Hell of it."

Obama is PRO WAR. He voted against taking out most of the troops from Iraq. He voted to fund the war for over 300 billion dollars. Obama gets a lot of money from military defense contractors. Saying you are against the war does not mean shit, his voting record is for the war.

Obama also wants to invade Iran and Pakistan.

[nbhadja]

"I will not hesitate to use military force to take out terrorists who pose a direct threat to America."
http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/nation/la-na-obama2aug02,1,1165056.story?coll=la-headlines-nation&track=crosspromo

"As President, I would deploy at least two additional brigades to Afghanistan to re-enforce our counter-terrorism operations".
http://www.boston.com/news/nation/articles/2007/08/01/obama_says_pakistan_must_act_against_taliban/

Obama stated that as President he would consider military action in Pakistan in order to attack al-Qaeda, even if the Pakistani government did not give approval.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/6926663.stm

He was not in office to vote for the iraq war, but he voted to fund it for over 300 billion dollars.

Obama also will not guarantee a Iraqi troop pullout until at least 2013. http://action.richardsonforpresident.com/page/content/2013/obamarecord/

Sen. Barack Obama said Friday the use of military force should not be taken off the table when dealing with Iran, which he called "a threat to all of us."
http://www.suntimes.com/news/politics/281249,CST-NWS-OBAMA03.article

Senator Barack Obama yesterday defended his votes on behalf of funding the Iraq war, asserting that he has always made clear that he supports funding for US troops despite his consistent opposition to the war.
http://www.boston.com/news/nation/articles/2007/03/22/obama_defends_votes_in_favor_of_iraq_funding/