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ItsTime
10-24-2008, 05:21 PM
http://docs.justia.com/cases/federal/district-courts/pennsylvania/paedce/2:2008cv04083/281573/27/


Am I missing something why is this not on ObamaCrimes.com?

Edit after discussion here the ORDER HAS NOT BEEN SIGNED just submitted by Berg to be signed.

hillertexas
10-24-2008, 05:25 PM
It hasn't been signed by the judge yet.

ItsTime
10-24-2008, 05:26 PM
It hasn't been signed by the judge yet.

So why is it up and for public records?

Im just trying to understand, not fight.

LibertyEagle
10-24-2008, 05:26 PM
Am I missing something why is this not on ObamaCrimes.com?


Obama to be removed from all balots? Order of Judgment GRANTED

Yes. You're missing a second "l" in ballots.

Penners
10-24-2008, 05:27 PM
It is on the obamacrimes site.. is a motion that has been filed. It has not been ruled on by the court... seems somewhat misleading but read it through... just a motion at this point.

hillertexas
10-24-2008, 05:28 PM
The document is a:

MOTION for Summary Judgment filed by PHILIP J. BERG

It's a "motion" for "judgement".

Hamer
10-24-2008, 05:28 PM
wow can we confirm this NOW?

www.rtrradio.com is going to report on this

ItsTime
10-24-2008, 05:29 PM
It is on the obamacrimes site.. is a motion that has been filed. It has not been ruled on by the court... seems somewhat misleading but read it through... just a motion at this point.

Cant find it. Do you have the direct link?

ItsTime
10-24-2008, 05:31 PM
wow can we confirm this NOW?

www.rtrradio.com is going to report on this

Its not confirmed. That is why I posted here for more insight.

ItsTime
10-24-2008, 05:32 PM
The document is a:


It's a "motion" for "judgement".

The second document in the scroll is the motion for judgment. The first doc is the order.

ClockwiseSpark
10-24-2008, 05:33 PM
I will be very surprised if this goes through. I'll be even more surprised if the MSM report it.

tropicangela
10-24-2008, 05:37 PM
Judge has to sign it though.

RSLudlum
10-24-2008, 05:38 PM
The first doc is the order.

yes, but it is lacking the "/s R. Barclay Surrick" (judge's signature note)

ItsTime
10-24-2008, 05:40 PM
yes, but it is lacking the "/s R. Barclay Surrick" (judge's signature note)

Ok gotcha. But why is it for public view?

John E
10-24-2008, 05:40 PM
I am not a lawyer and I know jack shit but I think a summary judgment can be easily appealed.

hillertexas
10-24-2008, 05:43 PM
An interesting history:
http://news.justia.com/cases/featured/pennsylvania/paedce/2:2008cv04083/281573/


August 21, 2008 1 COMPLAINT against all defendants ( Filing fee $ 350 receipt number 951001.), filed by PHILIP J. BERG.(tj, ) (Entered: August 22, 2008)

August 21, 2008 2 MOTION FOR TEMPORARY RESTRAINING ORDER AND FOR EXPEDITED DISCOVERY filed by PHILIP J. BERG,MEMORANDUM. (Attachments: # 1 Memorandum)(tj, ) (Entered: August 22, 2008)

August 21, 2008 Summons 5 Issued; 4 Mailed to counsel and 1 Forwarded to the U.S. Attorney's Office 8/22/08 as to BARACK OBAMA, THE DEMOCRATIC NATIONAL COMMITTEE, THE FEDERAL ELECTION COMMISSION. (tj, ) (Entered: August 22, 2008)

August 21, 2008 DEMAND for Trial by Jury by PHILIP J. BERG. (tj, ) (Entered: August 22, 2008)

August 22, 2008 3 Minute Entry for TRO Hearing held before HONORABLE R. BARCLAY SURRICK held on 8/22/08. ESR. M. FINNEY: MR. BERG ADDRESSES THE COURT. COURT DENIED PLAINTIFF'S MOTION FOR TEMPORARY RESTRAINING ORDER. (jpd) (Entered: August 22, 2008)

August 22, 2008 4 ORDER THAT UPON CONSIDERATION OF PLAINITFF'S MOTION FOR TEMPORARY RESTRAINING ORDER (DOC. NO. 2) AND AFTER HAVING A HEARING IN OPEN COURT IT IS ORDERED THAT THE MOTION IS DENIED. SIGNED BY HONORABLE R. BARCLAY SURRICK ON 8/22/08. 8/22/08 ENTERED AND COPIES FAXED FROM CHAMBERS. (jpd) (Entered: August 22, 2008)

August 22, 2008 5 Acceptance of Service by U.S. Attorney Re: accepted summons and complaint for THE FEDERAL ELECTION COMMISSION on 8/22/2008, answer due 10/21/2008. (jpd) (Entered: August 25, 2008)

September 2, 2008 6 Praecipe for Reissuance of Summons by PHILIP J. BERG. (BERG, PHILIP) Modified on 9/3/2008 (le, ). (Entered: September 2, 2008)

September 3, 2008 2 Original Alias Summons Issued as to DEFENDANTS BARACK HUSSEIN OBAMA, DEMOCRATIC NATIONAL CONVENTION. Forwarded to Counsel on 9/3/08 (jpd, ) (Entered: September 3, 2008)

September 9, 2008 7 Affidavit of Service of BRANDON A. SNESKO re: service of Alias Summons and Complaint, Memorandum in Support of Plaintiff's Motion for Temporary Restraining Order and for Expedited Discovery; Plaintiff's Motion for Temporary Restraining Order and for Expedited Discovery upon INDIRA HENRAD on behalf of DEFENDANT BARACK OBAMA, and upon AMANDA LAFORGE on behalf of DEFENDANT THE DEMOCRATIC NATIONAL COMMITTEE by PERSONAL SERVICE on 9/4/2008, answer due 9/24/2008. (jpd). (Entered: September 9, 2008)

September 9, 2008 8 MOTION to Expedite Discovery, Extensive Discovery and Appoint A Special Master filed by PHILIP J. BERG.Memorandum and Certificate of Service.(BERG, PHILIP) (Entered: September 9, 2008)

September 11, 2008 9 Reissuance of Summons for the FEC by PHILIP J. BERG. (BERG, PHILIP) (Entered: September 11, 2008)

September 11, 2008 One Alias Summons Issued as to THE FEDERAL ELECTION COMMISSION. Forwarded To: Counsel on 9/12/08 (sc, ) (Entered: September 12, 2008)

September 15, 2008 10 ADDITIONAL CERTIFICATE OF SERVICE BY PLAINTIFF PHILIP J. BERG, ESQUIRE REGARDING SERVICE OF PLAINTIFF'S MOTION FOR EXPIDITED DISCOVERY UPON DEFENDANT BARACK H. OBAMA BY FAX AND UNITED STATES POSTAL SERVICE EXPRESS MAIL AND DEFENDANT DEMOCRATIC NATIONAL COMMITTEE BY FAX AND UNITED STATES POSTAL SERVICE EXPRESS MAIL. (FAX TRANSMISSION LOG AND EXPRESS MAIL RECEIPTS ATTACHED). (jpd) (Entered: September 16, 2008)

September 18, 2008 11 APPLICATION BY PAUL ANDREW MITCHELL FOR LEAVE TO INTERVENE AND FOR WRIT IN THE NATURE OF PROHIBITION, CERTIFICATE OF SERVICE. (jpd) (Entered: September 18, 2008)

September 24, 2008 12 MOTION to Dismiss filed by BARACK OBAMA, THE DEMOCRATIC NATIONAL COMMITTEE.Brief and Certificate of Service.(LAVELLE, JOHN) (Entered: September 24, 2008)

September 29, 2008 13 RESPONSE in Opposition re 12 MOTION to Dismiss Brief in Support thereof and proof of service filed by PHILIP J. BERG. (Attachments: # 1 Exhibit, # 2 Exhibit, # 3 Exhibit, # 4 Exhibit, # 5 Exhibit, # 6 Exhibit, # 7 Exhibit, # 8 Exhibit, # 9 Exhibit, # 10 Exhibit, # 11 Exhibit, # 12 Exhibit)(BERG, PHILIP) (Additional attachment(s) added on 9/30/2008: # 13 Exhibit 1) (jpd, ). (Entered: September 29, 2008)

October 6, 2008 14 MOTION for Leave to File First Amended Complaint filed by PHILIP J. BERG.Brief in support thereof and Certificate of Service. (Attachments: # 1 Exhibit)(BERG, PHILIP) (Entered: October 6, 2008)

October 6, 2008 15 MOTION for Protective Order Staying Discovery Pending Decision on Dispositive Motion filed by BARACK OBAMA, THE DEMOCRATIC NATIONAL COMMITTEE.Brief, Certification, Certificate of Service. (Attachments: # 1 Exhibit Exhibit A)(LAVELLE, JOHN) (Entered: October 6, 2008)

October 7, 2008 16 T.B. BRADLEY'S MOTION FOR APPLICATION TO INTERVENE WITH COMPLAINT AND PETITION FOR WRIT OF MANDAMUS DIRECTED TO THE AGENCIES OF THE UNITED STATES AND MOTION FOR INJUNCTIVE RELIEF, CERTIFICATE OF SERVICE. (jpd) (Entered: October 7, 2008)

October 7, 2008 17 MOVANT T.B. BRADLEY'S MOTION TO APPEAR AS JANE DOE. (jpd) (Entered: October 7, 2008)

October 9, 2008 18 RESPONSE in Opposition re 15 MOTION for Protective Order Staying Discovery Pending Decision on Dispositive Motion Brief in Support thereof and Certificate of Service filed by PHILIP J. BERG. (BERG, PHILIP) (Entered: October 9, 2008)

October 15, 2008 19 U.S. CITIZEN JUDSON WITHAM'S APPLICATION AND NOTICE OF MOTION TO INTERVENE AS A MATTER OF RIGHT FRCP 24, CERTIFICATE OF SERVICE. (jpd) (Entered: October 15, 2008)

October 20, 2008 20 MOTION to Dismiss First Amended Complaint filed by BARACK OBAMA, THE DEMOCRATIC NATIONAL COMMITTEE.Memorandum of Law, Certificate of Service.(LAVELLE, JOHN) (Entered: October 20, 2008)

October 20, 2008 23 T.B. BRADLEY'S REQUEST FOR THE COURT TO TAKE JUDICIAL NOTICE OF FILING COMPLAINT AND DEMAND FOR INVESTIGATION WITH THE UNITED STATES DEPT. OF JUSTICE-PUBLIC CORRUPTION DIVISION AND OTHER U.S. AGENCIES, CERTIFICATE OF SERVICE.(jpd) (Entered: October 21, 2008)

October 21, 2008 21 MOTION for Order Deeming Requests for Admissions - Admitted filed by PHILIP J. BERG.Deeming Requests for Admissions - Admitted.(BERG, PHILIP) (Entered: October 21, 2008)

October 21, 2008 22 MOTION for Order Expediting Ruling on Plaintiffs Motion Deeming Plaintiffs Request for Admissions Admitted filed by PHILIP J. BERG.Certificate of Service.(BERG, PHILIP) (Entered: 10/21/2008)

October 21, 2008 24 MOTION to Dismiss for Lack of Jurisdiction filed by THE FEDERAL ELECTION COMMISSION.Memorandum. (Attachments: # 1 Memorandum of Law)(STREETER, BENJAMIN) (Entered: October 21, 2008)

October 21, 2008 25 MOTION for Order Deeming Requests for Admissions Admitted filed by PHILIP J. BERG.Certificate of Service. (Attachments: # 1 Exhibit, # 2 Exhibit, # 3 Exhibit, # 4 Exhibit)(BERG, PHILIP) (Entered: October 21, 2008)

October 22, 2008 26 MOTION for Order for Expedited Ruling, Hearing and/or Resolution of Plaintiff's Motion for Summary Judgment filed by PHILIP J. BERG.Certificate of Service.(BERG, PHILIP) (Entered: 10/22/2008)

October 22, 2008 27 MOTION for Summary Judgment filed by PHILIP J. BERG.Brief in support thereof and Certificate of Service. (Attachments: # 1 Exhibit, # 2 Exhibit, # 3 Exhibit, # 4 Exhibit)(BERG, PHILIP) (Entered: October 22, 2008)

Docket Report Last Checked: October 23, 2008 18:55:26 PDT

ItsTime
10-24-2008, 05:46 PM
Obama people are putting up a big fight over 3 seconds of proof that is for sure.

ItsTime
10-24-2008, 05:51 PM
Ok i got it. Berg wrote the order in hopes to have the judge sign it. After looking at obamas dismissal requests that is clear.

phixion
10-24-2008, 05:51 PM
Obama people are putting up a big fight over 3 seconds of proof that is for sure.

Yeah. Curious, ain't it? Ho hum.

What are they hiding, indeed.

I hope the judge supports McCain.

Obama engaged this suit to dismiss it, yet when it wasn't dismissed and the documents were requested - he ignored it. Thus the admission (legally). That's how I understand it thus far.

Pete

dannno
10-24-2008, 05:59 PM
I hope the judge supports McCain.



The judge won't be supporting McCain, he will be ruling against Obama.

RSLudlum
10-24-2008, 05:59 PM
Ok gotcha. But why is it for public view?

It was up to his discretion to make it public. It's not part of official public record until it's filed, it's only been submitted to the judge.

At least that's how my wife, who works in the county solicitors office, explained it.

Zera
10-24-2008, 06:01 PM
This is just batshit fucking insane and fucking stupid.

Truth Warrior
10-24-2008, 06:03 PM
Do a google search for, Obama Berg PDF

Alawn
10-24-2008, 06:13 PM
Ok gotcha. But why is it for public view?

Because they are public records when filed with the court. If you really wanted to you could find the same type of document with any case.

bobbyw24
10-24-2008, 07:28 PM
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United States District Court
Eastern District of Pennsylvania (Philadelphia)
CIVIL DOCKET FOR CASE #: 2:08-cv-04083-RBS
BERG v. OBAMA et al
Assigned to: HONORABLE R. BARCLAY SURRICK
Cause: 28:2201 Injunction
Date Filed: 08/21/2008
Jury Demand: Plaintiff
Nature of Suit: 890 Other Statutory Actions
Jurisdiction: U.S. Government Defendant
Plaintiff
PHILIP J. BERG
ESQUIRE represented by PHILIP J. BERG
LAW OFFICES OF PHILIP J. BERG
555 ANDORRA GLEN COURT
SUITE 12
LAFAYETTE HILL , PA 19444
610-825-3134
Fax: 610-834-7659
Email: philjberg@gmail.com
LEAD ATTORNEY
ATTORNEY TO BE NOTICED


V.
Defendant
BARACK OBAMA
also known as
BARRY SOETORO
also known as
BARRY OBAMA
also known as
BARACK DUNHAM
also known as
BARRY DUNHAM represented by JOHN P. LAVELLE
BALLARD SPAHR ANDREWS & INGERSOLL LLP
1735 MARKET ST., 51ST FL
PHILADELPHIA , PA 19103
215-665-8500
Email: lavellej@ballardspahr.com
LEAD ATTORNEY
ATTORNEY TO BE NOTICED

Defendant
THE DEMOCRATIC NATIONAL COMMITTEE represented by JOHN P. LAVELLE
(See above for address)
LEAD ATTORNEY
ATTORNEY TO BE NOTICED

Defendant
THE FEDERAL ELECTION COMMISSION represented by BENJAMIN A. STREETER , III
FEDERAL ELECTION COMMISSION
999 "E" STREET, N.W.
WASHINGTON , DC 20463
202-694-1650
Email: bstreeter@fec.gov
LEAD ATTORNEY
ATTORNEY TO BE NOTICED

Defendant
DOES 1-50 INCLUSIVE


V.
Movant
PAUL ANDREW MITCHELL
UNITED STATES ex relatione represented by PAUL ANDREW MITCHELL
C/O FORWARDING AGENT
501 WEST BROADWAY, #A-332
SAN DIEGO, CA 92101
PRO SE

Movant
T.B. BRADLEY
Dr. Psy.D represented by T.B. BRADLEY
P.O. BOX 8542
COLUMBUS, GA 31908
PRO SE

Movant
JUDSON WITHAM represented by JUDSON WITHAM
2250 N. UNIVERSITY PARKWAY
SUITE 48
P.O. BOX 4863
PROVO, UT 84604
PRO SE


Date Filed # Docket Text
08/21/2008 1 COMPLAINT against all defendants ( Filing fee $ 350 receipt number 951001.), filed by PHILIP J. BERG.(tj, ) (Entered: 08/22/2008)
08/21/2008 2 MOTION FOR TEMPORARY RESTRAINING ORDER AND FOR EXPEDITED DISCOVERY filed by PHILIP J. BERG,MEMORANDUM. (Attachments: # Memorandum)(tj, ) (Entered: 08/22/2008)
08/21/2008 Summons 5 Issued; 4 Mailed to counsel and 1 Forwarded to the U.S. Attorney's Office 8/22/08 as to BARACK OBAMA, THE DEMOCRATIC NATIONAL COMMITTEE, THE FEDERAL ELECTION COMMISSION. (tj, ) (Entered: 08/22/2008)
08/21/2008 DEMAND for Trial by Jury by PHILIP J. BERG. (tj, ) (Entered: 08/22/2008)
08/22/2008 3 Minute Entry for TRO Hearing held before HONORABLE R. BARCLAY SURRICK held on 8/22/08. ESR. M. FINNEY: MR. BERG ADDRESSES THE COURT. COURT DENIED PLAINTIFF'S MOTION FOR TEMPORARY RESTRAINING ORDER. (jpd) (Entered: 08/22/2008)
08/22/2008 4 ORDER THAT UPON CONSIDERATION OF PLAINITFF'S MOTION FOR TEMPORARY RESTRAINING ORDER (DOC. NO. 2) AND AFTER HAVING A HEARING IN OPEN COURT IT IS ORDERED THAT THE MOTION IS DENIED. SIGNED BY HONORABLE R. BARCLAY SURRICK ON 8/22/08. 8/22/08 ENTERED AND COPIES FAXED FROM CHAMBERS. (jpd) (Entered: 08/22/2008)
08/22/2008 5 Acceptance of Service by U.S. Attorney Re: accepted summons and complaint for THE FEDERAL ELECTION COMMISSION on 8/22/2008, answer due 10/21/2008. (jpd) (Entered: 08/25/2008)
09/02/2008 6 Praecipe for Reissuance of Summons by PHILIP J. BERG. (BERG, PHILIP) Modified on 9/3/2008 (le, ). (Entered: 09/02/2008)
09/03/2008 2 Original Alias Summons Issued as to DEFENDANTS BARACK HUSSEIN OBAMA, DEMOCRATIC NATIONAL CONVENTION. Forwarded to Counsel on 9/3/08 (jpd, ) (Entered: 09/03/2008)
09/09/2008 7 Affidavit of Service of BRANDON A. SNESKO re: service of Alias Summons and Complaint, Memorandum in Support of Plaintiff's Motion for Temporary Restraining Order and for Expedited Discovery; Plaintiff's Motion for Temporary Restraining Order and for Expedited Discovery upon INDIRA HENRAD on behalf of DEFENDANT BARACK OBAMA, and upon AMANDA LAFORGE on behalf of DEFENDANT THE DEMOCRATIC NATIONAL COMMITTEE by PERSONAL SERVICE on 9/4/2008, answer due 9/24/2008. (jpd). (Entered: 09/09/2008)
09/09/2008 8 MOTION to Expedite Discovery, Extensive Discovery and Appoint A Special Master filed by PHILIP J. BERG.Memorandum and Certificate of Service.(BERG, PHILIP) (Entered: 09/09/2008)
09/11/2008 9 Reissuance of Summons for the FEC by PHILIP J. BERG. (BERG, PHILIP) (Entered: 09/11/2008)
09/11/2008 One Alias Summons Issued as to THE FEDERAL ELECTION COMMISSION. Forwarded To: Counsel on 9/12/08 (sc, ) (Entered: 09/12/2008)
09/15/2008 10 ADDITIONAL CERTIFICATE OF SERVICE BY PLAINTIFF PHILIP J. BERG, ESQUIRE REGARDING SERVICE OF PLAINTIFF'S MOTION FOR EXPIDITED DISCOVERY UPON DEFENDANT BARACK H. OBAMA BY FAX AND UNITED STATES POSTAL SERVICE EXPRESS MAIL AND DEFENDANT DEMOCRATIC NATIONAL COMMITTEE BY FAX AND UNITED STATES POSTAL SERVICE EXPRESS MAIL. (FAX TRANSMISSION LOG AND EXPRESS MAIL RECEIPTS ATTACHED). (jpd) (Entered: 09/16/2008)
09/18/2008 11 APPLICATION BY PAUL ANDREW MITCHELL FOR LEAVE TO INTERVENE AND FOR WRIT IN THE NATURE OF PROHIBITION, CERTIFICATE OF SERVICE. (jpd) (Entered: 09/18/2008)
09/24/2008 12 MOTION to Dismiss filed by BARACK OBAMA, THE DEMOCRATIC NATIONAL COMMITTEE.Brief and Certificate of Service.(LAVELLE, JOHN) (Entered: 09/24/2008)
09/29/2008 13 RESPONSE in Opposition re 12 MOTION to Dismiss Brief in Support thereof and proof of service filed by PHILIP J. BERG. (Attachments: # Exhibit, # Exhibit, # Exhibit, # Exhibit, # Exhibit, # Exhibit, # Exhibit, # Exhibit, # Exhibit, # Exhibit, # Exhibit, # Exhibit)(BERG, PHILIP) (Additional attachment(s) added on 9/30/2008: # Exhibit 1) (jpd, ). (Entered: 09/29/2008)
10/06/2008 14 MOTION for Leave to File First Amended Complaint filed by PHILIP J. BERG.Brief in support thereof and Certificate of Service. (Attachments: # Exhibit)(BERG, PHILIP) (Entered: 10/06/2008)
10/06/2008 15 MOTION for Protective Order Staying Discovery Pending Decision on Dispositive Motion filed by BARACK OBAMA, THE DEMOCRATIC NATIONAL COMMITTEE.Brief, Certification, Certificate of Service. (Attachments: # Exhibit Exhibit A)(LAVELLE, JOHN) (Entered: 10/06/2008)
10/07/2008 16 T.B. BRADLEY'S MOTION FOR APPLICATION TO INTERVENE WITH COMPLAINT AND PETITION FOR WRIT OF MANDAMUS DIRECTED TO THE AGENCIES OF THE UNITED STATES AND MOTION FOR INJUNCTIVE RELIEF, CERTIFICATE OF SERVICE. (jpd) (Entered: 10/07/2008)
10/07/2008 17 MOVANT T.B. BRADLEY'S MOTION TO APPEAR AS JANE DOE. (jpd) (Entered: 10/07/2008)
10/09/2008 18 RESPONSE in Opposition re 15 MOTION for Protective Order Staying Discovery Pending Decision on Dispositive Motion Brief in Support thereof and Certificate of Service filed by PHILIP J. BERG. (BERG, PHILIP) (Entered: 10/09/2008)
10/15/2008 19 U.S. CITIZEN JUDSON WITHAM'S APPLICATION AND NOTICE OF MOTION TO INTERVENE AS A MATTER OF RIGHT FRCP 24, CERTIFICATE OF SERVICE. (jpd) (Entered: 10/15/2008)
10/20/2008 20 MOTION to Dismiss First Amended Complaint filed by BARACK OBAMA, THE DEMOCRATIC NATIONAL COMMITTEE.Memorandum of Law, Certificate of Service.(LAVELLE, JOHN) (Entered: 10/20/2008)
10/20/2008 23 T.B. BRADLEY'S REQUEST FOR THE COURT TO TAKE JUDICIAL NOTICE OF FILING COMPLAINT AND DEMAND FOR INVESTIGATION WITH THE UNITED STATES DEPT. OF JUSTICE-PUBLIC CORRUPTION DIVISION AND OTHER U.S. AGENCIES, CERTIFICATE OF SERVICE.(jpd) (Entered: 10/21/2008)
10/21/2008 21 MOTION for Order Deeming Requests for Admissions - Admitted filed by PHILIP J. BERG.Deeming Requests for Admissions - Admitted.(BERG, PHILIP) (Entered: 10/21/2008)
10/21/2008 22 MOTION for Order Expediting Ruling on Plaintiffs Motion Deeming Plaintiffs Request for Admissions Admitted filed by PHILIP J. BERG.Certificate of Service.(BERG, PHILIP) (Entered: 10/21/2008)
10/21/2008 24 MOTION to Dismiss for Lack of Jurisdiction filed by THE FEDERAL ELECTION COMMISSION.Memorandum. (Attachments: # Memorandum of Law)(STREETER, BENJAMIN) (Entered: 10/21/2008)
10/21/2008 25 MOTION for Order Deeming Requests for Admissions Admitted filed by PHILIP J. BERG.Certificate of Service. (Attachments: # Exhibit, # Exhibit, # Exhibit, # Exhibit)(BERG, PHILIP) (Entered: 10/21/2008)
10/22/2008 26 MOTION for Order for Expedited Ruling, Hearing and/or Resolution of Plaintiff's Motion for Summary Judgment filed by PHILIP J. BERG.Certificate of Service.(BERG, PHILIP) (Entered: 10/22/2008)
10/22/2008 27 MOTION for Summary Judgment filed by PHILIP J. BERG.Brief in support thereof and Certificate of Service. (Attachments: # Exhibit, # Exhibit, # Exhibit, # Exhibit)(BERG, PHILIP) (Entered: 10/22/2008)

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ItsTime
10-24-2008, 07:30 PM
Because they are public records when filed with the court. If you really wanted to you could find the same type of document with any case.

Yes I understand now. I did not realize that when you file a motion you can file the order in hopes to get it signed as well. Case closed ;)

Eroberer
10-24-2008, 09:24 PM
This may be unrelated, but I found it interesting. If you feel like reading 60+ pages of analysis, here you go.

http://www.pennypresslv.com/Obama%27s_Use_of_Hidden_Hypnosis_techniques_in_His _Speeches.pdf

politicsNproverbs
10-24-2008, 09:32 PM
I did not realize that when you file a motion you can file the order in hopes to get it signed as well.

I used to do TONS of typing for a PI attorney and with EVERY MOTION we also included the Order. I thought it was a courtesy thing, making it easier, quicker, more expedient for the Judge -- who in this case is still sitting on the Motion and hasn't made his decision yet. Let's hope he has enough good sense to sign it and get the Oust Obama Ball Rolling.:p

tonesforjonesbones
10-24-2008, 09:38 PM
Nothing sticks to The Komrade. TONES the Mason

DAFTEK
10-24-2008, 09:38 PM
Is anyone getting the feeling they will throw this out last minute and disqualify Obama with no time left to do anything?

http://politicalpartypoop.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/05/democrats41.jpg

BeFranklin
10-24-2008, 09:45 PM
Someone, Ron Paul, I think has said the original intent of the constitution is you're a natural citizen if your parent(s) are.

This makes a lot more sense then you need to be merely born on american soil. Watching two foreigners come here to vacation just so their child will be a citizen makes no sense to me. It is like shysterism over the very basis of being American.

Comments? Can anyone pull up that Ron Paul quote? I think being for this mostly GOP leaning argument would also impact the above in paragraph two, which I think most of us would be against. It turns citizenship into legalism instead of what is naturally understood - if your parent is a citizen, you are.

tonesforjonesbones
10-24-2008, 09:52 PM
Well, The Komrade is going to make Warren Buffet his Sec. of Treasury, the Rockefellers, Soros and Bernanke endorsed him. I don't think he's goin anywhere. :(

BeFranklin
10-24-2008, 09:53 PM
Someone, Ron Paul, I think has said the original intent of the constitution is your a natural citizen if your parent(s) are.

This makes a lot more since then you need to be merely born on american soil. Watching two foreigners here come to vacation just so they'll child will be a citizen makes no sense to me. It is like shysterism over the very basis of being American.

Comments? Can anyone pull up that Ron Paul quote? I think being for this mostly GOP leaning argment would also impact the above in paragraph two, which I think most of us would be against. It turns citizenship into legalism instead of what is naturally understood - your parent is a citizen, you are.

Looking through Ron Paul quotes, the other side of this 'are Obama and McCain natural born citizens' question is the idea of "birthright" to foreigners who come here to deliver while they are pregnant.

I'm still looking for the ideal Ron Paul quote for that, but what I gather from his writings is the concept that you only have to be delivered here to be a citizen comes from the 14th Amendment, not the original constitution, and as far as I can see, the 14th doesn't really impact the original requirements for the president. According to Ron Paul, natural citizen doesn't mean what people are saying it means. It means your parents are citizens. The 14th was a way to free the slaves, since their parents weren't citizens, they became citizens another way.

In other words, the idea you are only a citizen because you are born inside the united states is not an idea compatible with a free country. That is a post-14th amendment interpretation for freeing the slaves that has been extended beyond its original interpretation to even include non-American couples who come here just to give birth - LAWBREAKING by the intention of the law, and that the 14th doesn't and wasn't even intended to modify the presidential requirement.


Ron Paul - Birthright citizenship similarly rewards lawbreaking, and must be stopped. As long as illegal immigrants know their children born here will be citizens, the perverse incentive to sneak into this country remains strong. Citizenship involves more than the mere location of one’s birth. True citizenship requires cultural connections and an allegiance to the United States. Americans are happy to welcome those who wish to come here and build a better life for themselves, but we rightfully expect immigrants to show loyalty and attempt to assimilate themselves culturally. Birthright citizenship sometimes confers the benefits of being American on people who do not truly embrace America.

phixion
10-24-2008, 10:16 PM
This may be unrelated, but I found it interesting. If you feel like reading 60+ pages of analysis, here you go.

http://www.pennypresslv.com/Obama%27s_Use_of_Hidden_Hypnosis_techniques_in_His _Speeches.pdf

That analysis is spot on. This explains his campaign and why many love him.

It's completely true.

I always wondered why he did that strange "pinching a pen" move. It didn't make sense, and I hadn't seen it before in my life. He used it seemingly without reason.

From his anchoring to the right tilting of his head in interviews, it all makes sense.

Now I know, it's so obvious it ought to be criminal!

The man is nothing but a con artist.

Thanks for posting that.

Pete

Carole
10-24-2008, 10:16 PM
There is not a judge alive that will sign that.

Have you forgotten to whom judges are beholden? They simply are not going to do anything to hurt themselves. :)

phixion
10-24-2008, 10:18 PM
There is not a judge alive that will sign that.

Have you forgotten to whom judges are beholden? They simply are not going to do anything to hurt themselves. :)

The judge would instantly make himself a celebrity. Dollar signs.

Pete

jsu718
10-25-2008, 12:48 AM
here is part of Berg's interview on Savage

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y8c3o2lSo34

Thunderbolt
10-25-2008, 12:59 AM
So why is it up and for public records?

Im just trying to understand, not fight.

I am an attorney. I can explain.

When you file a motion for summary judgment you also give the judge an Order to sign. You fill it out and if you win he signs it. It saves the judge time.

The judge does not always sign the Order you gave him. Sometimes you win but for a different reason than you wanted so the judge will write his own order.

But this is normal procedure. See the other documents. Lots of orders were submitted to that judge. Only a couple are signed.

The documents filed by Berg are just his spin on the issues. They are not totally factual, they are his arguments trying to persuade. Many times it turns out that the lawyers put things in their documents that are not true at all.

This is some guy trying to make a name for himself. I would be shocked if anything came of it.

Be reasonable - would the DNC not have checked something as simple as whether or not he is eligible for the office? They have spent millions of dollars on this guy. They also have very good lawyers from top law schools who working for them. They are not totally stupid. They are mostly just ignoring this idiot.

Beware of bad reporters who have no idea how legal documents work who are actually quoting the junk that Berg wrote in his papers as if it is official legal commentary by the judge. None of that stuff is from the judge. It is all some slimy plaintiff's attorney writing that crap.

Here: http://dockets.justia.com/docket/court-paedce/case_no-2:2008cv04083/case_id-281573/

Click on the numbers next to the filings and you can read the documents yourself. Some are signed some are not.

To make it clear: as of now the Order of Judgment has not been granted! It has been filed. Nothing more.


Does that all make sense?

nbhadja
10-25-2008, 01:42 AM
I am an attorney. I can explain.

When you file a motion for summary judgment you also give the judge an Order to sign. You fill it out and if you win he signs it. It saves the judge time.

The judge does not always sign the Order you gave him. Sometimes you win but for a different reason than you wanted so the judge will write his own order.

But this is normal procedure. See the other documents. Lots of orders were submitted to that judge. Only a couple are signed.

The documents filed by Berg are just his spin on the issues. They are not totally factual, they are his arguments trying to persuade. Many times it turns out that the lawyers put things in their documents that are not true at all.

This is some guy trying to make a name for himself. I would be shocked if anything came of it.

Be reasonable - would the DNC not have checked something as simple as whether or not he is eligible for the office? They have spent millions of dollars on this guy. They also have very good lawyers from top law schools who working for them. They are not totally stupid. They are mostly just ignoring this idiot.

Beware of bad reporters who have no idea how legal documents work who are actually quoting the junk that Berg wrote in his papers as if it is official legal commentary by the judge. None of that stuff is from the judge. It is all some slimy plaintiff's attorney writing that crap.

Here: http://dockets.justia.com/docket/court-paedce/case_no-2:2008cv04083/case_id-281573/

Click on the numbers next to the filings and you can read the documents yourself. Some are signed some are not.

To make it clear: as of now the Order of Judgment has not been granted! It has been filed. Nothing more.


Does that all make sense?

Than why does he not show his birth certificate?? Why does his grandma say he was born in Kenya? Why does he say he was born in one hospital in Hawaii while his sister says a different hospital??

BeFranklin
10-25-2008, 01:45 AM
Someone, Ron Paul, I think has said the original intent of the constitution is you're a natural citizen if your parent(s) are.

More arguments that a natural citizen is not the same thing as either a 14th Amendment citizen or a naturalized citizen. And although, yes, I've heard similar arguments in the past, I wasn't really paying attention. My point is that the arguments that "obama isn't a citizen" or "mccain isn't a citizen", cuts away at what the constitution really originally meant by naturally born citizen and advocates FOR the 14th amendment definition - which is something we probably wouldn't want.


No Person except a natural born Citizen, or a Citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution

Argument One:
The most natural meaning for "natural born citizen" is the natural son or daughter of an American citizen. Natural meaning to whom you were born to, not where you were born.

This meaning flows right out of the first part of the US Constitition, which also defines the intent..

We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defense, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America.

This is also the view held by the greater part of court cases apparently, including:

Weedin v. Chin Bow (1927) holds that "at common law the children of our citizen born abroad were always natural born citizen from the standpoint of this government."

Argument Two:
If natural born citizen had simply meant to be born here, regardless of who your parents were, the 14th Amendment would not have been necessary, as the slaves were already citizens by virtue of having been born in the borders of the US, much like foreign mothers who attempt to have babies here do today. However, clearly that wasn't the view at the time.

Its the 14th Amendment that started the change of the view on birthright, but even its original intent is not what we have today.

However, the 14th amendment didn't change the definition of the natural born citizen qualification for President.

lynnf
10-25-2008, 04:08 AM
...

Be reasonable - would the DNC not have checked something as simple as whether or not he is eligible for the office? They have spent millions of dollars on this guy. They also have very good lawyers from top law schools who working for them. They are not totally stupid. They are mostly just ignoring this idiot.

...




let me remind you of Thomas Eagleton. George McGovern's first pick for VP in 1972. his vetting apparently consisted of asking the question "are there any skeletons in your closet?" and remember - this is the democrats again. then it later came out that he had been treated for some psychiatric problems. boom! he was gone after some deep soul-searching by the candidate McGovern.

you can't assume that these people were vetted properly. or, actually, you can, but it wouldn't be wise. and if he presented a birth certificate, would they have examined it forensically for flaws? probably not. 'remember, the guy was "born in Hawaii", so why question it?' would be what they would think.

lynn

Monolithic
10-25-2008, 07:02 AM
so uh didn't this get thrown out by the judge or something

a case like this just recently got thrown out

lynnf
10-25-2008, 01:57 PM
so uh didn't this get thrown out by the judge or something

a case like this just recently got thrown out


not this one --
there are 4 cases on the Obama situation
HI, WA, UT, and PA


lynn

Dr.3D
10-25-2008, 02:08 PM
I guess maybe it should be 'Change you Kenya believe in'. :rolleyes:

RSLudlum
10-25-2008, 02:18 PM
so is that it?

http://www.philly.com/dailynews/local/20081025_Judge_rejects_Montco_lawyer_s_bid_to_have _Obama_removed_from_ballot.html





Judge rejects Montco lawyer's bid to have Obama removed from ballot
By MICHAEL HINKELMAN
Philadelphia Daily News

hinkelm@phillynews.com 215-854-2656

A federal judge in Philadelphia last night threw out a complaint by a Montgomery County lawyer who claimed that Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama was not qualified to be president and that his name should be removed from the Nov. 4 ballot.
Philip J. Berg alleged in a complaint filed in federal district court on Aug. 21 against Obama, the Democratic National Committee and the Federal Election Commission, that Obama was born in Mombasa, Kenya.

Berg claimed that the Democratic presidential standardbearer is not even an American citizen but a citizen of Indonesia and therefore ineligible to be president.

He alleged that if Obama was permitted to run for president and subsequently found to be ineligible, he and other voters would be disenfranchised.

U.S. District Judge R. Barclay Surrick had denied Berg's request for a temporary restraining order on Aug. 22 but had not ruled on the merits of the suit until yesterday.

Obama and the Democratic National Committee had asked Surrick to dismiss Berg's complaint in a court filing on Sept. 24.

They said that Berg's claims were "ridiculous" and "patently false," that Berg had "no standing" to challenge the qualifications of a candidate for president because he had not shown the requisite harm to himself.

Surrick agreed.

In a 34-page memorandum and opinion, the judge said Berg's allegations of harm were "too vague and too attenuated" to confer standing on him or any other voters.

Surrick ruled that Berg's attempts to use certain laws to gain standing to pursue his claim that Obama was not a natural-born citizen were "frivolous and not worthy of discussion."

The judge also said the harm Berg alleged did "not constitute an injury in fact" and Berg's arguments to the contrary "ventured into the unreasonable."

For example, Berg had claimed that Obama's nomination deprived citizens of voting for Sen. Hillary Clinton in November. (Berg backed Clinton in the primaries.)

Berg could not be reached for comment last night.

Obama was born in Honolulu on Aug. 4, 1961, and the campaign posted a document issued by Hawaii on its Web site, fight thesmears.com, confirming his birth there.

Berg said in court papers that the image was a forgery.

The nonpartisan Web site FactCheck.org examined the original document and said it was legitimate.

Further, a birth announcement in the Aug. 13, 1961, Honolulu Advertiser listed Obama's birth there on Aug. 4. *

ItsTime
10-25-2008, 02:20 PM
so is that it?

http://www.philly.com/dailynews/local/20081025_Judge_rejects_Montco_lawyer_s_bid_to_have _Obama_removed_from_ballot.html

Yup. No proof needed to run for president.

Dr.3D
10-25-2008, 02:21 PM
so is that it?

http://www.philly.com/dailynews/local/20081025_Judge_rejects_Montco_lawyer_s_bid_to_have _Obama_removed_from_ballot.html

Well, wouldn't that just be one out of the four?

HI, WA, UT, and PA

So now all that is left is HI, WA, and UT?

lynnf
10-25-2008, 02:46 PM
Well, wouldn't that just be one out of the four?

HI, WA, UT, and PA

So now all that is left is HI, WA, and UT?


actually, no. now Berg gets to appeal to the Appeals Court -- rejection at one level just gets you a ticket to the next level. PA is still in play!


also just heard that Obama has completed his visit to Hawaii. So maybe he made his case to the HI SC and we'll get a ruling there next week.


lynn

Dr.3D
10-25-2008, 02:48 PM
actually, no. now Berg gets to appeal to the Appeals Court -- rejection at one level just gets you a ticket to the next level. PA is still in play!


also just heard that Obama has completed his visit to Hawaii. So maybe he made his case to the HI SC and we'll get a ruling there next week.


lynn

Makes me wonder about that trip to HI. While he was there, he could have gotten a certified copy of his Certificate of Live Birth. That is if he really can get one from there. (Perhaps if he were to pay the right people he could.)

MoneyWhereMyMouthIs2
10-25-2008, 02:56 PM
I hope the judge supports McCain.


Seriously?

I can't imagine ever saying that.

lynnf
10-25-2008, 03:43 PM
Makes me wonder about that trip to HI. While he was there, he could have gotten a certified copy of his Certificate of Live Birth. That is if he really can get one from there. (Perhaps if he were to pay the right people he could.)


he wouldn't have to go there to do that, could have done that by mail (or maybe proxy)


lynn

NH4RonPaul
10-25-2008, 03:43 PM
Frankly, I've given up. If NH goes down to the MarxiCrats, and Obama wins, you'll be living under a theocratic thugocracy where his blind religious koolaid drinking followers will beat you into submission and take your money.

I have hidden my assets and I'm taken flight... I am never going to pay the IRS again to support this communistic NWO that will be ushered in with the ONE, the anti-Christ, Obama.

SICK that the people have allowed this. They are all scum!

ItsTime
10-25-2008, 03:46 PM
Frankly, I've given up. If NH goes down to the MarxiCrats, and Obama wins, you'll be living under a theocratic thugocracy where his blind religious koolaid drinking followers will beat you into submission and take your money.

I have hidden my assets and I'm taken flight... I am never going to pay the IRS again to support this communistic NWO that will be ushered in with the ONE, the anti-Christ, Obama.

SICK that the people have allowed this. They are all scum!

Where in NH are you? We have a meet up in Lebanon on the 28th. Should be 15 to 20 people meeting for food and drinks.

hillertexas
10-25-2008, 04:48 PM
..

Philip J. Berg is Appealing to the U.S. Supreme Court as Obama is "NOT" qualified to be President of the United States Lawsuit Against Obama Dismissed from Philadelphia Federal Court

For Immediate Release: - 10/25/08 - Contact Info at end.

UPDATE: Ruling attached at end. It's a really poor copy, but it is all we have for the moment. Willl put up a better copy when we get one.

(Lafayette Hill, Pennsylvania – 10/25/08) - Philip J. Berg, Esquire, the Attorney who filed suit against Barack H. Obama challenging Senator Obama’s lack of “qualifications” to serve as President of the United States, announced today that he is immediately appealing the dismissal of his case to the United States Supreme Court. The case is Berg v. Obama, No. 08-cv-04083.

Berg said, "I am totally disappointed by Judge Surrick's decision and, for all citizens of the United States, I am immediately appealing to the U.S. Supreme Court.

This is a question of who has standing to uphold our Constitution. If I don't have standing, if you don't have standing, if your neighbor doesn't have standing to question the eligibility of an individual to be President of the United States - the Commander-in-Chief, the most powerful person in the world - then who does?

So, anyone can just claim to be eligible for congress or the presidency without having their legal status, age or citizenship questioned.

According to Judge Surrick, we the people have no right to police the eligibility requirements under the U.S. Constitution.

What happened to ‘...Government of the people, by the people, for the people,...’ Abraham Lincoln in his Gettysburg Address 1863.

We must legally prevent Obama, the unqualified candidate, from taking the Office of the Presidency of the United States,” Berg said.

Our website obamacrimes.com now has 71.8 + million hits. We are urging all to spread the word of our website – and forward to your local newspapers and radio and TV stations.

Berg again stressed his position regarding the urgency of this case as, “we” the people, are heading to a “Constitutional Crisis” if this case is not resolved forthwith.

* * For copies of all Court Pleadings, go to obamacrimes.com

# # #

Philip J. Berg, Esquire
555 Andorra Glen Court, Suite 12
Lafayette Hill, PA 19444-2531
Cell (610) 662-3005
(610) 825-3134
(800) 993-PHIL [7445]
Fax (610) 834-7659
philjberg@obamacrimes.com

lynnf
10-25-2008, 06:32 PM
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I'm not exactly sure how this works, but I think in order to skip over the Appeals Court and go directly to the Supreme Court, you have to show an urgent need. Phil Berg said he was licensed to practice before the SC so I guess he knows what he is doing on this.

Obama is reported to have finished his "visit to his grandmother" and is returning to the campaign. someone in another thread suggested he might have been getting a HI birth certificate, but he could have gotten that by mail. maybe he was getting a certificate because he really didn't know what was in it yet (maybe he always used the certificate of live birth - which is not the same as a birth certificate, apparently).

lynn