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mediahasyou
10-24-2008, 03:08 PM
simple poll.

http://www.ozarkia.net/bill/anarchism/faq.html

yongrel
10-24-2008, 03:15 PM
Not in my lifetime.

Truth Warrior
10-24-2008, 03:50 PM
Actually, I much prefer "autarchist". ;) :) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Autarchism

http://fair-use.org/rampart-journal/1965/12/autarchy-versus-anarchy (http://fair-use.org/rampart-journal/1965/12/autarchy-versus-anarchy)

heavenlyboy34
10-24-2008, 03:52 PM
Anarcho capitalism is not anarchism. I'm somewhat anarcho-capitalist. :) :D

dannno
10-24-2008, 03:56 PM
Being that anarchy is only a temporary state, sort of a transition from one government to another............. yea..

Spider-Man
10-24-2008, 04:09 PM
Anarcho capitalism is not anarchism.

False.

hypnagogue
10-24-2008, 04:10 PM
Where's my "Hell No!" option?

heavenlyboy34
10-24-2008, 04:18 PM
False.

If you equate them, them I am an anarchist by your definition. :D

Ozwest
10-24-2008, 04:43 PM
if you equate them, them i am an anarchist by your definition. :d

qft.

mport1
10-24-2008, 06:08 PM
Yes, thankfully I have finally seen the light. It took four years and extensive research but I have transitioned from a moderate libertarian all the way to an anarcho-capitalist. Once you truly understand the inherent violence of the state and how a stateless society would function, it is an easy transition.

Kludge
10-24-2008, 06:52 PM
Neoconservative->Anarcho-Capitalist->Anarchist w.o. adjectives -> Voluntaryist/Minarchist -> Minarchist -> liberal-leaning Minarchist

mport1
10-24-2008, 07:03 PM
Neoconservative->Anarcho-Capitalist->Anarchist w.o. adjectives -> Voluntaryist/Minarchist -> Minarchist -> liberal-leaning Minarchist

Why the switch back to more government?

Kludge
10-24-2008, 07:18 PM
Why the switch back to more government?

1.Neoconservative->Anarcho-Capitalist


First major awakening influenced primarily by random folk the internet (srsly). Throw in some Ayn Rand, John Stossel, and the "philosophy of liberty" presentation, and I was convinced that principles must never ever be compromised.

2. Ancap -> Anarchist



Minor change. Realized that as long as there is anarchy, the adjectives are completely meaningless with regards to politics.

3. Anarchist -> Voluntaryist/Minarchist



Significant change. Realized government could be funded by voluntary means and that they could protect citizens against aggression with small local police forces funded by donations. I now realize how flawed that belief was, not just because I no longer believe in the underlying principles, but also the hypocrisy in believing that private citizens can create public services.

4. Vol/Minarch -> Minarchist



Second Major Awakening. Stopped believing in natural rights based on lengthy reasoning posted elsewhere. Believed gov't was dangerous but that it should punish aggression to make a safer country for all and particularly to protect the rights of the defenseless. Dropped the belief that privacy should be defended (as property rights trump privacy and "violations" of it).

5. Minarchist -> ? Minarchist (not really more liberal... That was a bad word choice)



Minor Change. Now believe gov't should be able to punish much more aggression and that property rights are supreme. Believe that gov't should punish for IP rights violations (assuming a proper contract was in place) and in banning smoking around unconsenting people. A few other minor changes, influenced primarily by Kade and a few respected people I know outside of RPFs.

heavenlyboy34
10-24-2008, 07:20 PM
Yes, thankfully I have finally seen the light. It took four years and extensive research but I have transitioned from a moderate libertarian all the way to an anarcho-capitalist. Once you truly understand the inherent violence of the state and how a stateless society would function, it is an easy transition.

Yaayyy! I'll probably be there too in a year or two. For now, I find it very interesting. :D

mport1
10-24-2008, 07:59 PM
Yaayyy! I'll probably be there too in a year or two. For now, I find it very interesting. :D

Yeah, it takes time but if you do careful research you will probably make the switch eventually. Here are some books that I've been suggesting that people who are interested read:

Practical Anarchy - Found in audio and pdf form here http://www.freedomainradio.com/books.html (goes well with Everyday Anarchy and Universally Preferable Behaviour but Practical Anarchy looks at the practical questions you are probably more interested in)

The Market For Liberty - Very good in most aspects and again looks at a lot of the practicalities. http://freekeene.com/free-audiobook/

For A New Liberty - In print and audio. Also everything else by Rothbard is good. http://mises.org/rothbard/newliberty.asp

inibo
10-24-2008, 08:17 PM
But I have to qualify it with "not yet." I'm headed down that road, I'm just not there yet and, who knows, I might find a turn off to another destination along the way.

heavenlyboy34
10-24-2008, 08:18 PM
Yeah, it takes time but if you do careful research you will probably make the switch eventually. Here are some books that I've been suggesting that people who are interested read:

Practical Anarchy - Found in audio and pdf form here http://www.freedomainradio.com/books.html (goes well with Everyday Anarchy and Universally Preferable Behaviour but Practical Anarchy looks at the practical questions you are probably more interested in)

The Market For Liberty - Very good in most aspects and again looks at a lot of the practicalities. http://freekeene.com/free-audiobook/

For A New Liberty - In print and audio. Also everything else by Rothbard is good. http://mises.org/rothbard/newliberty.asp

I already have "The Market For Liberty"...that's one of the things that got me interested in anarchism/hardcore libertarianism. :) Thanks for the other resources, though. :D ~free hugs!~

Paulitician
10-24-2008, 10:25 PM
I've become an individualist anarchist/autarchist in recent months. But it's more of a personal philosophy than it is a political or societal philosophy (since I've given up on the latter altogether).

mediahasyou
10-25-2008, 07:53 PM
I've become an individualist anarchist/autarchist in recent months. But it's more of a personal philosophy than it is a political or societal philosophy (since I've given up on the latter altogether).

http://www.voluntaryist.com/articles/070.php

Andrew Ryan
10-25-2008, 08:23 PM
Never.

Isaac Bickerstaff
10-25-2008, 09:39 PM
The rules of your poll are stupid.:D

Conza88
10-26-2008, 12:53 AM
In reference to answering just your poll. No I'm not an anarchist. I'm an anarcho-capitalist.

One's a free for all fck fest mostly... and the other (the latter) is far greater than any political or social system ever devised.

You've acquainted them, but I will not. ;)