Montana Poll: Obama 44.4%, McCain 40.2%, Ron Paul 4.2%!!!!

[Knightskye]

http://www.montanasnewsstation.com/Global/story.asp?S=9227101&nav=menu227_6

Barack Obama 44.4%

John McCain 40.2%

Ron Paul 4.2%

Ralph Nader .7%

Bob Barr 1%

Undecided 9.5%

Dude, he makes up the exact difference between Obama and McCain's numbers. :D

[haaaylee]

that's almost enough to get into the debates ;)

[Knightskye]

that's almost enough to get into the debates ;)

How do I join this "undecided" party? :D

Seems like if it had an official candidate, people could just say they're "undecided" and get someone into a debate.

But Ron Paul, Bob Barr, and Ralph Nader have a combined 5%. I think 5% should be what's required to get into the CPD's debates, though. That seems alright, if they aren't willing to go buy how many ballots people are on.

[libertarian4321]

Nice- I hope he gets at least 5% in the election.

[RonPaulFanInGA]

If Obama wins Montana, I'll eat my hat. I'm not buying that for one second.

[Pennsylvania]

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[gls]

The following link is a sample ballot from Montana for an arbitrary address, which shows Ron Paul listed under the Constitution Party:

Sample Ballot (http://www.vote-mt.org/Ballot.aspx?Election=20081104GMT000000ALL&State=MT&Congress=001&StateSenate=040&StateHouse=080&County=049)

Would somebody please explain to me how it is so that Dr. Paul is listed under the Constitution Party while not being its nominee?:)

The Montana CP is disaffiliated from the national party and nominated Paul without his knowledge or consent. He wrote a letter to the Montana Secretary of State asking to be taken off and replaced with Baldwin but by then some ballots had already been printed and it was too late.

[AJ Antimony]

The following link is a sample ballot from Montana for an arbitrary address, which shows Ron Paul listed under the Constitution Party:

Sample Ballot (http://www.vote-mt.org/Ballot.aspx?Election=20081104GMT000000ALL&State=MT&Congress=001&StateSenate=040&StateHouse=080&County=049)

Would somebody please explain to me how it is so that Dr. Paul is listed under the Constitution Party while not being its nominee?:)

National parties can nominate whoever the hell they want, but ultimately it's up to the states' chapter of that party to pick a ticket. For example, even though the national GOP ticket is McCain/Palin, if the GOP in a certain state like Nevada were so inclined, they could have Paul/Goldwater or something placed on the Nevada ballot for the GOP candidate.

[klamath]

This might just cost McCain 3 electoral votes.

[nate895]

If Obama wins Montana, I'll eat my hat. I'm not buying that for one second.

Seriously, the only Democrats that win in MT are more conservative than most Republicans.

[tpreitzel]

Seriously, the only Democrats that win in MT are more conservative than most Republicans.

Qualified praise? ;)

[JohnJay]

Good news showing up in polling . . .

Fiscal conservative, staunch pro-life/pro-sanctity of life, 2nd amendment advocate and USAF Vietnam veteran -
I think we got some more grassroots to go these last two weeks in Big Sky Country.

http://www.fivethirtyeight.com/2008/09/ron-paul-to-appear-on-montana-ballot.html

[brandon]

wow, this is too awesome!!! Hopefully Paul gets 5% and McCain loses by 4%

[JohnJay]

Would somebody please explain to me how it is so that Dr. Paul is listed under the Constitution Party while not being its nominee?:)


grassroots baby - getting the job done bes' we can.

http://i432.photobucket.com/albums/qq47/panamajohn/paulownsmccain.gif


RP said he was all right with it - he didn't have to sign anything etc.

[Cap'n Crunk]

wow, this is too awesome!!! Hopefully Paul gets 5% and McCain loses by 4%

and then Obama beats Mccain by 2 electoral vote! A guy can dream.

[angelatc]

Oh no. Tones is going to have a stroke.

[Lovecraftian4Paul]

I don't think Montana will make or break the election, but it would be sweet if McCain loses it because of Ron Paul on the ballot anyway. If anyone deserves to have salt poured in their wounds, it's McCain and the rotten GOP.

[Zera]

Digg it!

h ttp://digg.com/2008_us_elections/Montana_Poll_Obama_44_4_McCain_40_2_Ron_Paul_4_2

Always smart to pander to two crowds on Digg ;)

[escapinggreatly]

I would love to see Ron Paul swing it for Obama, just to force the talking heads to, you know, talk about him.
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[Dorfsmith]

This thread makes me happy :)

[Knightskye]

Digg it!

http://digg.com/2008_us_elections/Montana_Poll_Obama_44_4_McCain_40_2_Ron_Paul_4_2

Dugg. :)

[speciallyblend]

This thread makes me happy :)

ditto, RON PAUL 2008


my vote in colorado is down to Ron Paul, Nader or if i get one person telling me my vote is wasted on ron paul,just might vote obama, make my day;) barr not an option!


I want Ron Paul, that bad, i will never vote mccain, nader would be my protest vote. I like chuck but i really do not think the cp platform agrees with me. so i am stuck in a rock in a hard place!!!!

[Knightskye]

my vote in colorado is down to Ron Paul, Nader or if i get one person telling me my vote is wasted on ron paul,just might vote obama, make my day;) barr not an option!

http://www.votenader.org/issues/

Seriously? Nader?

Would you mind getting an MRI?

[Vet_from_cali]

grassroots baby - getting the job done bes' we can.

http://i432.photobucket.com/albums/qq47/panamajohn/paulownsmccain.gif


RP said he was all right with it - he didn't have to sign anything etc.

omg that gif

LMAO. that is effin awesome

/rightclicksave

[torchbearer]

omg that gif

LMAO. that is effin awesome

/rightclicksave

yeh, that's a classic. I remember watching that live... trying to remember what mccain was saying at that point...

[MRoCkEd]

yeh, that's a classic. I remember watching that live... trying to remember what mccain was saying at that point...
"that kind of isolationism allowed hitler to come to power in world war II"

PS: That would be a smack in the face for mccain to lose montana because of RP

[torchbearer]

"that kind of isolationism allowed hitler to come to power in world war II"

PS: That would be a smack in the face for mccain to lose montana because of RP

Didn't ron respond by talking about the interventions of WWI as being the cause of WWII along with the stiff penalties put on post wwI germany which gave hitler the fodder he needed?

[HOLLYWOOD]

wow, this is too awesome!!! Hopefully Paul gets 5% and McCain loses by 4%

McCain is SUCH a FOOL. He could of grabbed ALL the INDEPENDENT and Libertarian votes and WON if he would of accepted RON PAUL. McTeenSouthCarolina must still be sore at RP... but in reality, we know it's NOT McCain (WHO WOULD SELL HIS SOLE in a SECOND) it's the Elitist/Wealth/Zionists that pull the Presidential Puppet's strings.

True colors are always revealed over time... McGimmick and his Special Needs VP Nominee Sarah "GameShow" Palin... are going down in Flames.

Well, looks like Socialism instead of Fascism the next 4 years.

Catch the CNBC Maria "Money Whore" Batiromo's interview with Juan McFool and Sarah Pathetic...

Yawner... Stupid... Prepped and canned better than the 50 Year Twinkie!

Blah

[gls]

yeh, that's a classic. I remember watching that live... trying to remember what mccain was saying at that point...

IIRC that scene was McCain accusing Paul of holding the same "isolationist" beliefs that lead to the rise of Hitler. All Ron could do was shake his head at the obvious historical revisionism.

edit: beaten

[MRoCkEd]

Didn't ron respond by talking about the interventions of WWI as being the cause of WWII along with the stiff penalties put on post wwI germany which gave hitler the fodder he needed?
You're thinking of his book.
In the debate he just said that he gets more money from the troops and explained the difference between noninterventionism and isolationism

[Wendi]

I wish I lived in Montana. It would be great to vote for Paul after all of this. In Texas, it is pointless to even write him in, because they only count "declared" write-in candidates, which he isn't. *sigh*

[Sandra]

Here is a news story about "an independent poll" in Louisiana.

This story doesn't jive....

http://www.wxvt.com/Global/story.asp?S=9252433&nav=menu1344_2

with these numbers:

http://www400.sos.louisiana.gov:8090/cgibin/?rqstyp=elcms2&rqsdta=020908

Check out the vote numbers for both.

[torchbearer]

You're thinking of his book.
In the debate he just said that he gets more money from the troops and explained the difference between noninterventionism and isolationism

Yeah, you're right. But the book was great. I have both hard back and audio.
I wish Ron would have read the audio book, the guy who reads it mispronounces a lot of names.

[Knightskye]

I wish I lived in Montana. It would be great to vote for Paul after all of this. In Texas, it is pointless to even write him in, because they only count "declared" write-in candidates, which he isn't. *sigh*

Sighing when you can vote for Bob Barr?