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QueenB4Liberty
10-23-2008, 10:12 AM
He said he was taking Thursday, Friday, and Saturday off to go to Hawaii to be with his grandmother didn't he? Maybe I'm confused.
hillertexas
10-23-2008, 10:25 AM
me too, maybe Andy Martin stayed longer than he expected in Hawaii. http://www.contrariancommentary.com/community/


Is Barack Obama avoiding Andy Martin in Honolulu?
Is Obama’s itinerary a coincidence, or conscious avoidance?
What are the odds that Barack Obama and Andy Martin would be in Honolulu at the same time? Chicago investigator Martin closes in on Obama’s “secret truths.”

Is Obama staying out of Honolulu until Andy Martin leaves?
If Obama’s grandmother is so ill, why is Obama delaying his arrival?



FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE:

Why is Barack Obama delaying his arrival in Honolulu?

Could it be because Andy Martin is there, and Obama is waiting for Martin’s departure before The Chosen One lands?

(HONOLULU, HI)(October 21, 2008) This column is just a short response to Barack Obama’s strange behavior. We will have a full column (Part Two) later today after lunch. (Remember we are on Hawai’i time, so the columns come out much later on the mainland.)

Obama suddenly announced Monday his grandmother had been gravely ill for weeks. He has his own plane. All he had to do is tell the pilot to file a flight plan for Honolulu and take off. He’s the king of his own armada.

But instead of rushing to his grandmother’s bedside, Obama is waiting until I leave Honolulu before he lands.

Ask yourself, “What would I do?” What would you do if you had your own plane and mom or dad suddenly took ill? Would you tell the pilot to set course for Hawai’i, or tell him to wait three (3!) days before coming to your relative’s bedside? How sick is she if Obama is will to delay his “emergency” for three days?

This entire episode is becoming curiouser and curiouser.

If his grandmother is sick enough to suspend his campaign, why is he “suspending” it days late? Curiouser and curiouser.

Last night I was out doing interviews that had to be postponed because of Hawai’i Supreme Court litigation during the day. My cell phone kept ringing with people wanting to alert me, and warn me of possible harm from Obama with his imminent arrival here. I do not believe Obama, or even his more rabid supporters, will try to cause me physical harm. They are too busy measuring for carpet and drapes in the White House.

But I do believe there is a powerful awareness on Obama’s part that I have been pursuing his lies for four years, and we are closing in on his secret truths. The negative karma must be overwhelming. The thief always knows when he is about to be caught. (“Book’em, Danno?”)

No one (except the groveling mainstream media) seems to believe Obama’s grandmother is so ill that, in light of their past relationship, she merited a campaign suspension (more on that later today).

Strange as it seems to me, we are apparently getting to Obama, and he is increasingly afraid of the David in this David and Goliath (Obama) drama.

Is Obama trying to avoid me? (We leave Honolulu Wednesday night and he arrives “Thursday.”) You be the judge.
dannno
10-23-2008, 10:27 AM
Wow this could turn into a game of "Where in the World is Barak Obama?"

http://www.consoleclassix.com/info_img/Where_in_the_World_is_Carmen_Sandiego_SMS_ScreenSh ot1.jpg

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Kade
10-23-2008, 11:06 AM
me too, maybe Andy Martin stayed longer than he expected in Hawaii. http://www.contrariancommentary.com/community/

Conspiracy theorist FTL.

Look up the name: Vexatious Litigant
hillertexas
10-23-2008, 11:15 AM
Conspiracy theorist FTL.

Look up the name: Vexatious Litigant


Vexatious litigation is legal action which is brought, regardless of its merits, solely to harass or subdue an adversary. It may take the form of a primary frivolous lawsuit or may be the repetitive, burdensome, and unwarranted filing of meritless motions in a matter which is otherwise a meritorious cause of action. Filing vexatious litigation is considered an abuse of the judicial process and may result in sanctions against the offender.

A single action, even a frivolous one, is not enough to raise a litigant to the level of being declared vexatious, though repeated and severe instances by a single lawyer or firm can result in eventual disbarment.

Some jurisdictions have a list of vexatious litigants: people who have repeatedly abused the legal system. Because lawyers could be disbarred for participating in the abuse, vexatious litigants are often unable to retain legal counsel, and therefore represent themselves in court. Those on the list are usually either forbidden from any further legal action or required to obtain prior permission from a senior judge before taking any legal action. The process by which a person is added to the list varies among jurisdictions.

I am definitely not a conspiracy theorist. Just throwing speculation out there.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andy_Martin_(U.S._politician)

On October 17, 2008, Martin filed a lawsuit against the state of Hawaii calling for the public release of Barack Obama's birth certificate and other vital records, despite the fact that Obama had previously released a copy of his birth certificate at fightthesmears.com.

So all he seems to want is the public release of BO's birth cert/records. We all know the "shadiness" surrounding the "release" of the BC.

I don't know much about this guy's past, but is it "Once a Vexatious Litigant, always a Vexatious Litigant"?
Kade
10-23-2008, 11:17 AM
I am definitely not a conspiracy theorist. Just throwing speculation out there.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andy_Martin_(U.S._politician)


So all he seems to want is the public release of BO's birth cert/records. We all know the "shadiness" surrounding the "release" of the BC.

I don't know much about this guy's past, but is it "Once a Vexatious Litigant, always a Vexatious Litigant"?

It's a very rare label. You are not taken seriously in any respectable Law Circles once you have it.
hillertexas
10-23-2008, 11:19 AM
It's a very rare label. You are not taken seriously in Law Circle once you have it.

noted
Kade
10-23-2008, 11:24 AM
noted

This might be of interest: http://www.floridasupremecourt.org/decisions/pre2004/ops/sc93573.pdf
phixion
10-23-2008, 12:14 PM
Before people jump to discredit this guy, note that the only place Obama has released his birth certificate to is FactCheck.org. Why is that the only place?

"Obama worked for the Chicago Annenberg Challenge. The Chicago Annenberg Challenge was funded by the Annenberg Foundation".

From Factcheck.org: "Copyright © 2003 - 2008 Annenberg Public Policy Center of the University of Pennsylvania FactCheck.org's staff, not the Annenberg Center, is responsible for this material."

If he can release them to a website he has links to, why not to a judge?

If Obama and the DNC requested the suit be dismissed, why when it wasn't dismissed did he refuse to submit his documents? He and the DNC engaged the lawsuit to dismiss it, yet ignored it when it wasn't dismissed.

It's interesting...

Pete
Kade
10-23-2008, 12:22 PM
Before people jump to discredit this guy, note that the only place Obama has released his birth certificate to is FactCheck.org. Why is that the only place?

"Obama worked for the Chicago Annenberg Challenge. The Chicago Annenberg Challenge was funded by the Annenberg Foundation".

From Factcheck.org: "Copyright © 2003 - 2008 Annenberg Public Policy Center of the University of Pennsylvania FactCheck.org's staff, not the Annenberg Center, is responsible for this material."

If he can release them to a website he has links to, why not to a judge?

If Obama and the DNC requested the suit be dismissed, why when it wasn't dismissed did he refuse to submit his documents? He and the DNC engaged the lawsuit to dismiss it, yet ignored it when it wasn't dismissed.

It's interesting...

Pete

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/article/2008/jun/27/obamas-birth-certificate-part-ii/
dannno
10-23-2008, 12:31 PM
http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/article/2008/jun/27/obamas-birth-certificate-part-ii/

I'm very suspicious of websites with the word "fact" in them that are claiming to be the authority on these things, always seemingly in favor of authority itself.

factcheck.org and politifact.com fit that description pretty nicely. I also often disagree with snopes.
Kade
10-23-2008, 12:32 PM
I'm very suspicious of websites with the word "fact" in them that are claiming to be the authority on these things, always seemingly in favor of authority itself.

factcheck.org and politifact.com fit that description pretty nicely. I also often disagree with snopes.

Truth is still truth, regardless of it's source. Obama's certificate is real.

I don't know why anyone would trust someone like Andy Martin over a generally unbiased fact checker site like Politifact.
libertarian4321
10-25-2008, 12:40 AM
I am definitely not a conspiracy theorist. Just throwing speculation out there.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andy_Martin_(U.S._politician)



I was going to ask "who the Hell is "Andy Martin."

It appears that Martin is, at best, mentally unstable- and at worst, a douchebag and deranged racist.

So why are we discussing anything about this nut?

This is the proper link, btw.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andy_Martin_(U.S._politician)