Club for Growth calls, WSJ implies Ron Paul top tier

[aknappjr]

http://www.clubforgrowth.org/2007/09/presidential_web_traffic.php

[max]

http://www.clubforgrowth.org/2007/09/presidential_web_traffic.php

somebody's photo is missing

[wgadget]

???

Then why isn't his picture listed on the right with the rest of 'em?

[aknappjr]

They haven't done a white paper on him yet. I used to like the CFG, but I told Pat Toomey I refused to donate to them until they do a white paper on the most fiscally-conservative free-market presidential candidate, Ron Paul.

They responded that Dr. Paul needed to have a greater chance of winning before they would do a white paper.

[CasualApathy]

I found this on the site, it lists the websites, and the number of unique visitors:

Presidential Democratic Campaign Sites

BarackObama.com - 717,000
HillaryClinton.com - 437,000
JohnEdwards.com - 348,000

Presidential Republican Campaign Sites

ImWithFred.com - 381,000
JoinRudy2008.com - 124,000
MittRomney.com - 116,000
RonPaul2008.com - 113,000
JohnMcCain.com - 104,00

[max]

They haven't done a white paper on him yet. I used to like the CFG, but I told Pat Toomey I refused to donate to them until they do a white paper on the most fiscally-conservative free-market presidential candidate, Ron Paul.

They responded that Dr. Paul needed to have a greater chance of winning before they would do a white paper.

circular logic

[Qiu]

This wall street journal data seems inconsistent with Alexa's reports. According to Alexa, www.ronpaul2008.com has around 10 times the daily reach www.joinrudy2008.com has. Sure, it could be the same people visiting Paul's site everyday, but 10x the daily reach and lower in unique visitors? Is that likely to happen?

[Dustancostine]

I found this on the site, it lists the websites, and the number of unique visitors:

Presidential Democratic Campaign Sites

BarackObama.com - 717,000
HillaryClinton.com - 437,000
JohnEdwards.com - 348,000

Presidential Republican Campaign Sites

ImWithFred.com - 381,000
JoinRudy2008.com - 124,000
MittRomney.com - 116,000
RonPaul2008.com - 113,000
JohnMcCain.com - 104,00

BTW That is for July. Why in the hell are they doing an article in September for the statistics in July. Hmmm Maybe that is the latest month that fits their talking points.

--Dustan

[FSP-Rebel]

I found this on the site, it lists the websites, and the number of unique visitors:

Presidential Democratic Campaign Sites

BarackObama.com - 717,000
HillaryClinton.com - 437,000
JohnEdwards.com - 348,000

Presidential Republican Campaign Sites

ImWithFred.com - 381,000
JoinRudy2008.com - 124,000
MittRomney.com - 116,000
RonPaul2008.com - 113,000
JohnMcCain.com - 104,00
Wow, I thought we had the most visited website, especially among Republican candidates. What happened?

[Bro.Butch]

I've notice people don't go to the official RP site very much. I try to go each day. They have something different each day. And it would help everyone to actually go to his issues page and study his platform. Say do one issue a day. People are actually checking the numbers so we need to go to www.RonPaul2008.com on a regular basis. thx

[Dustancostine]

Wow, I thought we had the most visited website, especially among Republican candidates. What happened?

Number 1) That was the stats for July.

Number 2) It is unique vistors (vistors for the first time) not all vists.

[stevedasbach]

Different people are being tracked; which yields different results.

[bbachtung]

A greater chance of winning?!?

They covered Sam Brownback as their second white paper -- way back in February.

I notice a distinct lack of Ron Paul coverage on their press page -- while chastising John McCain (http://www.clubforgrowth.org/2007/06/mccain_has_a_problem_with_prof.php) for criticizing oil companies not "reinvesting" their profits at the June debate ("McCain Has a Problem with Profits"), they didn't mention Ron Paul's eloquent response that we have no business telling businesses what to do with their money, but we shouldn't subsidize those same businesses.

[sickmint79]

They haven't done a white paper on him yet. I used to like the CFG, but I told Pat Toomey I refused to donate to them until they do a white paper on the most fiscally-conservative free-market presidential candidate, Ron Paul.

They responded that Dr. Paul needed to have a greater chance of winning before they would do a white paper.

and brownback is on there?? ridiculous.

[aknappjr]

This wall street journal data seems inconsistent with Alexa's reports. According to Alexa, www.ronpaul2008.com has around 10 times the daily reach www.joinrudy2008.com has. Sure, it could be the same people visiting Paul's site everyday, but 10x the daily reach and lower in unique visitors? Is that likely to happen?

It's possible (and I think likely). The point is: Ron Paul is a top tier candidate: Even Peggy Noonan says "When a thousand Republicans are in a room and one man of the eight on the stage takes a sharply minority viewpoint on a dramatic issue and half the room seems to cheer him, something's going on." (http://www.opinionjournal.com/columnists/pnoonan/?id=110010568)

[jpa]

They are quoting the Neilson report just published. I refuted that report on townhall.com blog and now WSJ blog (cited compete.com and google trends. Alexa has been proven inaccurate in the past) Neilson's system is 30 days behind.

I got an email back from CFG saying they are working on the Paul review a few weeks ago.

[aknappjr]

I agree and find it more difficult to continue to respect and support the Club for Growth when it leaves Ron Paul out of its white paper. I guess my money will go to Mises in the future.

[TheMikael]

I got an email back from CFG saying they are working on the Paul review a few weeks ago.
If they indeed do a review for Paul, I think that they will focus on the whole earmarks thing and not so much on his actual record. Even though Paul explained himself completely and it made sense.
Remember the Club for Growth seem to only focus on the neocons.

[madcat033]

They haven't done a white paper on him yet. I used to like the CFG, but I told Pat Toomey I refused to donate to them until they do a white paper on the most fiscally-conservative free-market presidential candidate, Ron Paul.

They responded that Dr. Paul needed to have a greater chance of winning before they would do a white paper.


Then why the fuck do they have Brownback on there?

[constituent]

what i love is that accepting "top-tier" status for ron paul has played out
in the media in the exact form that "civil war" played out. should we?
shouldn't we? when do we? when don't we?

lest we forget the value of owning the language. hence, ignore the
ministry's lexigraphical (now, let's see if that's even a word yet) manipulations.

[cjhowe]

hehe...MittRomney.com - 49 seconds.

When you have 25,000 newspapers going to FT site to see if he's a candidate or not, that might skew the numbers a bit.

[Ridiculous]

Why the hell is Paul's name the only one not bolded in the WSJ story?