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Change
10-22-2008, 06:27 AM
How do Ron Paul Republicans factor into the polling data here? Does Ron Paul have the ability to throw the race in either direction?

http://www.zogby.com/news/ReadNews1604.html

tonesforjonesbones
10-22-2008, 07:43 AM
Yes I believe Ron Paul could have saved us from the communist sweep. There are many on this forum who thing the devil is the gop and i submit, only when the communist democrat party led by Obama's handlers, zezbrinski, Ayers, etc...re shape our government, take away our Constitution (more than it is now), and instate National Service, progressive rising income taxes, etc.., will this movement realize their error. It is coming...and the Liberty movement will have to work twice as hard to take back our government IF it can even be taken back at this point. We have very little of our Republic left. I believe after this election, the USA will fall to squalor...a third world country, because the big money people will leave when all the communist democrats start regulating everything. That's what will happen. Welcome to Mandella and the new South Africa. tones

Ron Paul made a huge error with this third party stupidity..when he himself sits in the GOP. He will have no leverege in congress now. He should fire whoever told him to do this. tones

Change
10-22-2008, 07:53 AM
I agree somewhat with what you are saying if you are a Republican, stand up and fight! I love being a Ron Paul Republican, but how do we go forward with more power taken from our party. Yes, the GOP has screwed us all, but if we are to reform it, lets fight for it, and not the policies of the moment. I say we back McCain! fight!

angelatc
10-22-2008, 07:54 AM
How do Ron Paul Republicans factor into the polling data here? Does Ron Paul have the ability to throw the race in either direction?

http://www.zogby.com/news/ReadNews1604.html

Based on the votes he pulled in the primaries? No.

Especially considering a lot of Paul people migrated to the Obama camp when Paul left the race.

angelatc
10-22-2008, 07:56 AM
I agree somewhat with what you are saying if you are a Republican, stand up and fight! I love being a Ron Paul Republican, but how do we go forward with more power taken from our party. Yes, the GOP has screwed us all, but if we are to reform it, lets fight for it, and not the policies of the moment. I say we back McCain! fight!

Oh shut up. Even Ron Paul isn't backing McCain, and the GOP has a lot more to offer him than it does us.

I don't want to be a member of the GOP if a liberal like McCain is at the helm.

tonesforjonesbones
10-22-2008, 07:59 AM
CHANGE, you are correct. McCain or no McCAin...the only saving grace is to fight for the GOP so we can keep a little leverage in washington. If the communist democrats sweep, Ron Paul will have 0 power and he will probably be replaced with democrats in his important committee positions. This was absolutely the WRONG call..TONES

Conza88
10-22-2008, 08:03 AM
CHANGE, you are correct. McCain or no McCAin...the only saving grace is to fight for the GOP so we can keep a little leverage in washington. If the communist democrats sweep, Ron Paul will have 0 power and he will probably be replaced with democrats in his important committee positions. This was absolutely the WRONG call..TONES

Please pay no attention to this national socialist, who is devoid of all logic & reasoning.

Thank you all, have a great day. :)

tonesforjonesbones
10-22-2008, 08:08 AM
Conza...stfu. I'm so sick of you people trashing this Liberty movement. at this point I am even considering that Ron Paul's Liberty movement was infiltrated and being used as Controlled Opposition. It defies rational thought that voting third party is going to help the Liberty movement gain any ground if the democrat COMMUNISTS sweep this election. IT will destroy our efforts, because the power will be in the hands of Marxists for 8 years...you tell me how that is going to help Ron Paul or the Liberty movement. Lay it out. tones

Just for the record...I am going to be holding a position in my local Campaign for Liberty squad. 99% of us are RON PAUL REPUBLICANS. TONES

DAFTEK
10-22-2008, 08:12 AM
^lol....:D tones.

tonesforjonesbones
10-22-2008, 08:16 AM
I'm serious. Will someone please explain to me how it is going to assist Ron Paul in congress if the democrats sweep both the legislative and executive..and appoint liberal justices. Please tell me how this third party protest is going to block that from happening because I do NOT understand this reasoning. TONES

DAFTEK
10-22-2008, 08:17 AM
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tonesforjonesbones
10-22-2008, 08:23 AM
This is the juvenille crap that goes on ..here on this forum. I asked for an honest explaination...I guess that means you dont' have one. This is not a game. If this were a NORMAL election cycle, I could see a protest vote, but this is not a normal election. If Hillary had won...I could see protesting...but this SOB communist and his cadre will be the final nail in the coffin for ANY liberty. These folk hate the founding fathers....they considered them wealthy white devil slave owners. The grassroots GOP are the patriots...if you cant figure out this simple concept...well..the LIBERTY movement will be finished. I dont' give a shit about trends. A democrat sweep will shut ROn Paul completely down. Why can't you see this? Tones

tonesforjonesbones
10-22-2008, 08:25 AM
The larger question is why coudln't RON PAUL see this???? tones

DAFTEK
10-22-2008, 08:27 AM
:rolleyes:

tonesforjonesbones
10-22-2008, 08:30 AM
Come on..please explain how a democrat sweep will help Ron Paul in congress..and help our Liberty movement. Convince me. tones

Conza88
10-22-2008, 08:31 AM
I'm serious. Will someone please explain to me how it is going to assist Ron Paul in congress if the democrats sweep both the legislative and executive..and appoint liberal justices. Please tell me how this third party protest is going to block that from happening because I do NOT understand this reasoning. TONES

Ok, spell it out for the three year old time... :o

Tones, tones, tones... you act as if the "republicans", are actually republicans. Why are you so fucken blind? Willful ignorance much? You didn't see the republicans vote for national socialism? They wanted war mate; the biggest SOCIALIST program of them ALL! Tones, tones, tones... when will you learn? It's getting rather sad... :(

The "republicans" are national socialists. The "democrats" are international socialists. Thus, the "republicans" are fascists and the democrats are "communists"

Tones, what is so fucken hard to understand? You want national socialism, instead of international socialism? Ok, that's great. But you still want socialism, lets be clear about that...

Real Ron Paul supporters reject both parties tones. They are SMART enough to realise the false choice, the false dichotomy and in term reject it's premise, because there is an alternate option.

There is only a one party system tones... with two faces of evil. You ain't voting for the lesser of two evils for voting McCain... you are NOT, so get that fucken moronic idea out of your skull... Ok :)

Please don't proceed with your delusions. The third party protest probably won't really have a large affect on the general election. The media chooses the candidates; and the nwo sets the agenda. My grasp is they want Obama, democrats (communists) in control of all levels, so they can then have their excuse of socialism / communism.. they keep it looking as if its all an accident, they mean well etc...

Your vote means nothing tones. If you vote for Mccain, you ain't voting on principle or with your conscience. You won't be sending any message to the nwo or status quo. The only way to send the message, is to reject the system. Don't vote for the status quo, or don't vote at all.

That's more of a message than doing what you plan too, EVER will.

Have a great day.. :D

DAFTEK
10-22-2008, 08:36 AM
Tones, if that is your name, One i would seriously suggest you stop that, it's annoying and out of the thousands of members on this forum you are the only one doing it.

Second, i understand what you have been posting but you have to realize there is no way to stop Obama now, you might change a few members to vote for McCain, but that wont do any good at all. I fear Obama just as much as you, yet i strongly believe the only way to move to the next level is to have Obama win so he can start burning this country so bad that people will rise to fight for the Constitution and as you call it C$L and not C4L... :P

You sound like a nice person but you let your emotions take over you?... .DAFTEK. ;)

tonesforjonesbones
10-22-2008, 08:43 AM
fas·cism
Pronunciation: \ˈfa-ˌshi-zəm also ˈfa-ˌsi-\
Function: noun
Etymology: Italian fascismo, from fascio bundle, fasces, group, from Latin fascis bundle & fasces fasces
Date: 1921
1often capitalized : a political philosophy, movement, or regime (as that of the Fascisti) that exalts nation and often race above the individual and that stands for a centralized autocratic government headed by a dictatorial leader, severe economic and social regimentation, and forcible suppression of opposition
2: a tendency toward or actual exercise of strong autocratic or dictatorial control <early instances of army fascism and brutality — J. W. Aldridge>
— fas·cist \-shist also -sist\ noun or adjective often capitalized
— fas·cis·tic \fa-ˈshis-tik also -ˈsis-\ adjective often capitalized
— fas·cis·ti·cal·ly \-ti-k(ə-)lē\ adverb often capitalized
Learn more about "fascism" and related topics at Britannica.com
See a map of "fascism" in the


com·mu·nism
Pronunciation: \ˈkäm-yə-ˌni-zəm, -yü-\
Function: noun
Etymology: French communisme, from commun common
Date: 1840
1 a: a theory advocating elimination of private property b: a system in which goods are owned in common and are available to all as needed
2capitalized a: a doctrine based on revolutionary Marxian socialism and Marxism-Leninism that was the official ideology of the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics b: a totalitarian system of government in which a single authoritarian party controls state-owned means of production c: a final stage of society in Marxist theory in which the state has withered away and economic goods are distributed equitably d: communist systems collectively

Conza88
10-22-2008, 08:44 AM
Even if McCain wins.... the exact same things will happen. They cover all bases...
How can you not understand that...?! :eek: He's a fken socialist in "republican" clothing. Tones, you will be VOTING for a SOCIALIST if you vote for McCain..

Please repeat after me;

I, Tones, knowingly & fully understand; that by voting for McCain in the 2008 General Election, I will be voting for a socialist, because I hate socialists.

Repeat that and I'll solidify my opinion of you. Until then, I still see hope you'll come to your senses :D

tonesforjonesbones
10-22-2008, 08:46 AM
Well Daftek...you are probably right, he is going to have to really screw thngs up good before people will see it. Why do I have to be a collectivist and not sign my name on my posts like everyone else? lol. I am truely an individual. TOnes

Conza88
10-22-2008, 08:47 AM
fas·cism
Pronunciation: \ˈfa-ˌshi-zəm also ˈfa-ˌsi-\
Function: noun
Etymology: Italian fascismo, from fascio bundle, fasces, group, from Latin fascis bundle & fasces fasces
Date: 1921
1often capitalized : a political philosophy, movement, or regime (as that of the Fascisti) that exalts nation and often race above the individual and that stands for a centralized autocratic government headed by a dictatorial leader, severe economic and social regimentation, and forcible suppression of opposition
2: a tendency toward or actual exercise of strong autocratic or dictatorial control <early instances of army fascism and brutality — J. W. Aldridge>
— fas·cist \-shist also -sist\ noun or adjective often capitalized
— fas·cis·tic \fa-ˈshis-tik also -ˈsis-\ adjective often capitalized
— fas·cis·ti·cal·ly \-ti-k(ə-)lē\ adverb often capitalized
Learn more about "fascism" and related topics at Britannica.com
See a map of "fascism" in the


com·mu·nism
Pronunciation: \ˈkäm-yə-ˌni-zəm, -yü-\
Function: noun
Etymology: French communisme, from commun common
Date: 1840
1 a: a theory advocating elimination of private property b: a system in which goods are owned in common and are available to all as needed
2capitalized a: a doctrine based on revolutionary Marxian socialism and Marxism-Leninism that was the official ideology of the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics b: a totalitarian system of government in which a single authoritarian party controls state-owned means of production c: a final stage of society in Marxist theory in which the state has withered away and economic goods are distributed equitably d: communist systems collectively

Both are COLLECTIVIST. Collectivism is TOTALITARIANISM.



P5. Proper Role of Government (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SvhKOsn-0AY)

^ Watch, and tell me where it's wrong... tones....

This video absolutely shatters the differences you contend there are.

DAFTEK
10-22-2008, 08:49 AM
Well Daftek...you are probably right, he is going to have to really screw thngs up good before people will see it. Why do I have to be a collectivist and not sign my name on my posts like everyone else? lol. I am truely an individual. TOnes

:rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:

DAFTEK
10-22-2008, 09:10 AM
Come on..please explain how a democrat sweep will help Ron Paul in congress..and help our Liberty movement. Convince me. tones

Tones, Obama has something we dont....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OuJvvcbyQVo

Mucho Sheep... :eek: You cant stop this, it's a huge freight train... :D

Aratus
10-22-2008, 10:11 AM
I'm serious. Will someone please explain to me how it is going to assist Ron Paul in congress if the democrats sweep both the legislative and executive..and appoint liberal justices. Please tell me how this third party protest is going to block that from happening because I do NOT understand this reasoning. TONES


the house could go heartily democrat... the senate may see 60 democrats inside
the same. if rEVOLUTIOn people focus on local races, this cuts into obama's coat-tails.
i figure that 2010 starts the day AFTER this election. this is what we need to do!

tonesforjonesbones
10-22-2008, 10:33 AM
Yes and this will be a tragedy. No checks and balances. tones

Change
10-22-2008, 11:24 AM
We as Ron Paul Republicans have more power if we get the GOP in, regardless. Ron Paul will be operating as a Repubilcan within the GOP. Therefore, we should do everything in our power to get him more power, not less.

Obviously, Ron Paul didn't endorse McCain and I agree the GOP has offer him nothing which was a BIG mistake on their part. I agree the GOP has less to over us. But I will say if the GOP would at least acknowledge us as Ron Paul Republicans, we should try and help them. They clearly are very stuplid. With that said, I say we start a massive phone effort to the GOP HEAD to get McCAIN to Acknowledge Ron Paul and consider him for Treasury Secretary. We have to do something! I feel very frustrated watching this continue, without using our massive network to help.

I welcome a mature conversation. I personally met with Ron Paul, and love him. I also was at Kent Synder's bedside the day before he died. I say we do something effective here with our movement to improve Ron Paul's Standing within the GOP.

Massive phone calls to GOP, Acknowledge Paul and you get our support.

angelatc
10-22-2008, 11:40 AM
Don't be delusional. Paul himself said that the GOP won't give him the Chair on any committees, although he is almost certainly the ranking member on every committee he sits on.

I am not negotiating with the GOP. That's finished. If they want to act like the GOP, then perhaps I will start blsssing them again with my paltry funds and single votes.

But not a moment sooner.

Kade
10-22-2008, 11:55 AM
Yes I believe Ron Paul could have saved us from the communist sweep. There are many on this forum who thing the devil is the gop and i submit, only when the communist democrat party led by Obama's handlers, zezbrinski, Ayers, etc...re shape our government, take away our Constitution (more than it is now), and instate National Service, progressive rising income taxes, etc.., will this movement realize their error. It is coming...and the Liberty movement will have to work twice as hard to take back our government IF it can even be taken back at this point. We have very little of our Republic left. I believe after this election, the USA will fall to squalor...a third world country, because the big money people will leave when all the communist democrats start regulating everything. That's what will happen. Welcome to Mandella and the new South Africa. tones

Ron Paul made a huge error with this third party stupidity..when he himself sits in the GOP. He will have no leverege in congress now. He should fire whoever told him to do this. tones

I change what I have said previously about Truth Warrior. You are the most batshit member of this forum, period.

Kade
10-22-2008, 11:56 AM
Yes and this will be a tragedy. No checks and balances. tones

Who do you think eroded those checks and balances?

amonasro
10-22-2008, 12:21 PM
Mandella and the new South Africa, tones? isn't that comparison a little extreme?

I can see your point about the importance of having a republican controlled congress, but that's about it. The overall goal is to have ron paul republicans in congress, so what good are the current lot at advancing true conservative ideals? they just demonstrated how loyal they are to the people by voting for these atrocious bailout bills. Congress and Senate testicle size is at an all-time low, so what makes you think they are going to band together against the socialist majority?

Change
10-22-2008, 01:51 PM
Well, interesting topic here today. I really don't get the negative charge against anyone who poses questions or ideas on this forum. Maybe you are right in the fact that the GOP needs to fail here. Awful things come when corruption rules, to ensure that better things rise. Maybe it is true, McCain should fail. He wasn't my candidate, but something tells me that it will be much harder to turn back with Obama. In addition, where is the justice that the Democrats were also very, very responsible for the war and the economic situation. Connecticut is a perfect example of things to come for the Country, trust me it isn't good at all. The only difference is a lame duck Republican Governor. So maybe it is good for failure here of a massive blow to the Republicans.

But again, are we better off with the democrats who are responsible for the entire educational system of the United States and what it breeds? As Ron Paul says, this finanical situation was firmly inplace before Bush arrived on the scene. Two wars certainly didn't help. But I am sure if Ron Paul had been President at the time of 911, he would have fought with someone in response. In addition, it all comes down to the fact that our people are not properly educated on the Constitution and the form of government we have, that isn't Bush's fault, it is the democrats who have run the schools for the last 30 years.

So, again, I think we ought to at least lobby the GOP at the time of their weakest moment, which is now for an acknowledgement and appointment of Ron Paul as treasury secretary. What does the GOP have to lose by hearing us out. Only the election, and they we can say we offered to help you and you all refused.

Conza88
10-22-2008, 06:39 PM
Yes and this will be a tragedy. No checks and balances. tones

And the insanity persists.

Did you even watch the short clip? You make me fcken sick. Your dumbass is going on ignore if you don't wisen up real quick. :rolleyes:

tonesforjonesbones
10-22-2008, 07:04 PM
Whatever suits your fancy conza. I agree with Change . I consider it more important to have some checks and balances...at least Ron Paul will keep his committee seats. He IS on committees at the moment. I am going to work for Liberty WITHIN THE GOP. THAT is what Ron Paul initally advised us to do and that is what I consider the best option for getting our country back. TONES

Conza88
10-22-2008, 07:12 PM
Whatever suits your fancy conza. I agree with Change . I consider it more important to have some checks and balances...at least Ron Paul will keep his committee seats. He IS on committees at the moment. I am going to work for Liberty WITHIN THE GOP. THAT is what Ron Paul initally advised us to do and that is what I consider the best option for getting our country back. TONES


http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/files/mccainhandonface1.jpg

You have not listened too, nor even ATTEMPTED to comprehend what I have said to you. I would like to think I clearly pointed out, the absolute abysmal flaws in your "logic". You have not responded, nor shown any sign of an attempt to allievaite your ignorance. You in fact asked to be, it was provided - and the said response was ignored.

You are what is wrong with humanity tones. People just like you. All willfully ignorant and going to go vote for McCain or Obama in the next few weeks.

May God have mercy on your soul. Because you're about to sell it.

Welcome to the my "vent list"...

tonesforjonesbones
10-22-2008, 07:18 PM
Maybe I didn't like your "logic". I have a brain and I can sort things out on my own. Ron Paul is in the REPUBLICAN PARTY...NOT a THIRD PARTY. If Ron Paul really wanted to push a third party...he would LEAVE the GOP and go join a third party. Actions speak louder than words..my old mama always told me. and I BELIEVE her. tones

DAFTEK
10-22-2008, 07:23 PM
Maybe I didn't like your "logic". I have a brain and I can sort things out on my own. Ron Paul is in the REPUBLICAN PARTY...NOT a THIRD PARTY. If Ron Paul really wanted to push a third party...he would LEAVE the GOP and go join a third party. Actions speak louder than words..my old mama always told me. and I BELIEVE her. tones

Sad to say i have to agree partially with you on this, now if only you can quit with the... tones. :D

Don't let Conza & Kade get under your skin, you seem like a nice women and although i have pushed my words more then i should have with you i am sorry if a came of disrespectful.

tonesforjonesbones
10-22-2008, 07:36 PM
It's ok I have no anger at anyone for speaking their mind, even if I disagree. Forums can be places to blow off steam and I try not to take anything personally. I know we are all Lovers of Liberty and lovers of Ron Paul..and we express it in our own ways. My old grandmother used to say "It takes all kinds to make a world". and I BELIEVE her! How's this? Red Hot Mama :)

DAFTEK
10-22-2008, 07:55 PM
lol, Red Hot Mama... haha.. I did watch the tube :p nice job ;)

Grandma was a wise women... ;)

Change
10-22-2008, 07:58 PM
Liberty is the answer, we all do agree. It really hurts to be rejected over and over again by the GOP. They clearly are stupid! But we all do have to remember that Ron Paul did stay within the party. So, we have mixed signals, he is not endorsing McCain and says he is voting for someone else, but also hasn't endorsed them. We all have to work together regardless of who wins. I understood the message to vote your own way whatever you think is best. One individual vote, that in itself is a positive message. We have all done such a wonderful job. I want to thank you all for always listening to my thoughts. I will never forget getting kicked off Hannity's forum for supporting Ron Paul and finding a place and a home in the Ron Paul Liberty Campaign!

Freedom Rocks! Let's keep the faith. Sometimes things work out exactly the way they are meant to. FEAR SUCKS.

DAFTEK
10-22-2008, 08:09 PM
@Change^ I left the party in protest untill after the elections :p I am now an Independent and voting for Baldwin and will be popping out the Corona with lime as soon as i get home :) Even if 50% of RP members vote for McPalin he still cant win. I just came to peace that Obama will win and the Revolution continues as soon as the Socialism begins which wont take long for CrackHeadBama to do.. What i do fear is all them Farrakhan's he will be surrounding himself with...

DAFTEK
10-22-2008, 08:23 PM
http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l29/drive-bymedia/Politics/LouisFarrakhan-4-Obama-NFH.jpg


lol... Where is Jese Ventura to kick some but!?! :D

Conza88
10-22-2008, 10:20 PM
Maybe I didn't like your "logic". I have a brain and I can sort things out on my own. Ron Paul is in the REPUBLICAN PARTY...NOT a THIRD PARTY. If Ron Paul really wanted to push a third party...he would LEAVE the GOP and go join a third party. Actions speak louder than words..my old mama always told me. and I BELIEVE her. tones

You didn't like it "emotionally". You have no INTELLECTUAL rebuttal to it. Because there isn't one. Socialists use their emotions, not their heads. You're a socialist tones.

Ron Paul and Ralph Nader on CNN 9/10/08 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eEw0qKjP7hk)

RON PAUL: From the man HIMSELF... the most recent comments tones, I ain't going back to the primary season. I'm going what the LAST, Most RECENT comments from Ron Paul.

Tones, are you a Ron Paul supporter? Well how about supporting what he says & wants? Tones? Toooooooonnessssssss? :confused:

Watch the clip. You are directly going against his Wishes. You ain't supporting Ron Paul... tones... tones... you're supporting John McCain.

Please provide a concise rebuttal, if it exists - I'd love to hear it.

;)

Pauls' Revere
10-22-2008, 10:50 PM
I agree somewhat with what you are saying if you are a Republican, stand up and fight! I love being a Ron Paul Republican, but how do we go forward with more power taken from our party. Yes, the GOP has screwed us all, but if we are to reform it, lets fight for it, and not the policies of the moment. I say we back McCain! fight!

Let the GOP implode! This they will understand.

Change
10-23-2008, 06:22 AM
Let the GOP implode! This they will understand.

Hardcore. I give you guys credit. I am with Tones, at some point reason must kick in and you have to take the lesser of two evils in order to move forward on the battle field. Of course, I was kicked off Hannity board forever for supporting Ron Paul, respectfully I might add at the hieght of the Ron Paul attacks, but I am allowed to view the forum. I noticed a thread yesterday on this very topic of other Republicans calling for Ron Paul Supporters help. What I saw in response was very defeating positions, such as we told you so, and never after what you did to us, etc. Exactly what you two are suggesting, Hardcore, no win, no movement. What I see from your position is no counter movement when someone reaches out to you that will move us forward. Such as a debate with them on the Secretary of Treasury in the McCain Administration. Like okay, if we support McCain and use our network, McCain should come out and support Paul as Secretary of the Treasury! Get something instead the approach you are taking. With government on every bill, we all know it is the detail language that forces the two parties to find a solution for the people. The problem today is both parties and within our party (Republicans) we are fighting over "it depends on what the meaning of is, is". At some point we have to define a position we can all agree on.

tonesforjonesbones
10-23-2008, 08:12 AM
Righton Change. I decided not to cut off my nose to spite my face. I was royally pissed at the GOP for a few months..but Komrade Obama will be so much worse for our freedom and Liberty. I'm not into protest ..I am into ACTION to get back on track and the ONLY way I see it happening is within the Republican Party. The Republicans are the patriots, the moral bunch , the Republicans are the group who appreciate it when I hand them a pocket Constitution, these are the people you see at a Patriotic 4th of July celebration, not throwing bottles at some protest march. Anarchy only results in another oligarchy. I have joined up with the other Ron Paul Republicans in my local C4L...and I will become very active in working to Restore the Republic within my GOP on the local level. We have some of the local libertarians in our group also. I'm for winning! Tones

Kade
10-23-2008, 08:42 AM
http://www.drudgereport.com/orock.jpg

Liberals have so much more fun. (Now display your righteous anger at the truth of that statement)

tonesforjonesbones
10-23-2008, 08:45 AM
Kade...you won't if Komrade Obama wins...are you aware that porn is ILLEGAL in Russia? It sure is. Tones

Conza88
10-23-2008, 08:52 AM
Righton Change. I decided not to cut off my nose to spite my face. I was royally pissed at the GOP for a few months..but Komrade Obama will be so much worse for our freedom and Liberty. I'm not into protest ..I am into ACTION to get back on track and the ONLY way I see it happening is within the Republican Party. The Republicans are the patriots, the moral bunch , the Republicans are the group who appreciate it when I hand them a pocket Constitution, these are the people you see at a Patriotic 4th of July celebration, not throwing bottles at some protest march. Anarchy only results in another oligarchy. I have joined up with the other Ron Paul Republicans in my local C4L...and I will become very active in working to Restore the Republic within my GOP on the local level. We have some of the local libertarians in our group also. I'm for winning! Tones



http://highered.prblogs.org/files/2007/06/clueless.jpg

tonesforjonesbones
10-23-2008, 08:55 AM
It always comes down to the juvenille stuff here. tones :rolleyes:

Conza88
10-23-2008, 09:00 AM
It always comes down to the juvenille stuff here. tones :rolleyes:


http://tnaron.files.wordpress.com/2008/01/mccain-baby.jpg

Kade
10-23-2008, 09:01 AM
Kade...you won't if Komrade Obama wins...are you aware that porn is ILLEGAL in Russia? It sure is. Tones

You have taken the comparison to Socialism so far, you are now applying dictatorship to an Obama Presidency...

You have lost your mind. You are actually living in your fantasy world, and acting upon it... You promote Obama as a socialist, without real qualification, then apply the absolute worse case scenario as the definitive conclusion. Anyone with any rational fortitude could see through this stunt...

Example:

TONES is a Christian Woman.

ergo---> Other Women are Witches.

ergo---> TONES wants to burn other women.


Piss poor logic. The fact that members of this forum continue to support this high grade idiocy is beyond me. This is straight out of the book "Dumbest Things I've Ever Heard".

klamath
10-23-2008, 09:09 AM
Hardcore. I give you guys credit. I am with Tones, at some point reason must kick in and you have to take the lesser of two evils in order to move forward on the battle field. Of course, I was kicked off Hannity board forever for supporting Ron Paul, respectfully I might add at the hieght of the Ron Paul attacks, but I am allowed to view the forum. I noticed a thread yesterday on this very topic of other Republicans calling for Ron Paul Supporters help. What I saw in response was very defeating positions, such as we told you so, and never after what you did to us, etc. Exactly what you two are suggesting, Hardcore, no win, no movement. What I see from your position is no counter movement when someone reaches out to you that will move us forward. Such as a debate with them on the Secretary of Treasury in the McCain Administration. Like okay, if we support McCain and use our network, McCain should come out and support Paul as Secretary of the Treasury! Get something instead the approach you are taking. With government on every bill, we all know it is the detail language that forces the two parties to find a solution for the people. The problem today is both parties and within our party (Republicans) we are fighting over "it depends on what the meaning of is, is". At some point we have to define a position we can all agree on.
Sorry but McCain lost any chance to bring in the RP votes at his convention. Gouliani gets a top speaking position while RP has to turn in his pass to the convention at the gate even though as a congressman he should of had a free pass. John mcCain taking RP's delegates votes away from them will not be forgotten. John McCain can go to Hell!

DAFTEK
10-23-2008, 09:12 AM
Kade, get of Obama's penis would you?

Kade
10-23-2008, 09:26 AM
Kade, get of Obama's penis would you?

As soon as your "off" mine.

DAFTEK
10-23-2008, 09:31 AM
As soon as your "off" mine.

"Small" problem with that, i have been trying to find it with not much luck, help a brother out would you? :rolleyes:

tonesforjonesbones
10-23-2008, 10:10 AM
double double toil and trouble...tones

Change
10-23-2008, 12:40 PM
Sorry but McCain lost any chance to bring in the RP votes at his convention. Gouliani gets a top speaking position while RP has to turn in his pass to the convention at the gate even though as a congressman he should of had a free pass. John mcCain taking RP's delegates votes away from them will not be forgotten. John McCain can go to Hell!

I can totally see your point here! I cannot stand Rudy!!!!! For many reasons! But, remember do you think it is so personal for Ron Paul? Rudy doesn't hold any power at all other than his media spots pushing for more Security and Prisoners. So put it into perspective. And if McCain does get in, a Rudy appointment would still have to be approved by the Congress. We can certainly deal with that when it comes.

Sometime emotions can get in the way of moving forward on the battle field. the Fact is Ron Paul is a sitting Republican who just won his seat in the Congress, and with our current network and continued financial growth, we can help move powerful issues. But it will be easier to move them with a Republican in office than a Democrat. Maybe I am wrong on this, but that is my thinking.