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D.H.
10-20-2008, 03:54 PM
This oughta be interesting....

I am of the opinion we are going toward socialism anyway but am confused at some people just laying this at Obamas door as of late. Well, this article is first hand from the people who should know.

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Local communists, rarely tapped as campaign pundits, say Sen. Barack Obama and his policies stand far afield from any form of socialism they know.....
John Bachtell, the Illinois organizer for Communist Party USA, sees attempts by Sen. John McCain's campaign to label Obama a socialist as both offensive to socialists and a desperate ploy to tap into fears of voters who haven't forgotten their Cold War rhetoric.

"Red baiting is really the last refuge of scoundrels," Bachtell said. "It has nothing to do with the issues that are confronting the American people right now. It's just a big diversion.".....

So, how do you know if you're a socailist?

Generally, it involves espousing government control over a country's basic industries, like transportation, communication and energy, while also allowing some government regulation of private industries.

"Obama is about as far from being a socialist as Joe The Plumber is from being a rocket scientist," said Darrell West, director of governance studies at the Brookings Institution. "I think it's hard for McCain to call Obama a socialist when George Bush is nationalizing banks."

And this from Bruce Carruthers, a sociology professor at Northwestern University: "Obama is like a center-liberal Democrat, and he is certainly not looking to overthrow capitalism. My goodness, he wouldn't have the support of someone like The Wizard of Omaha, Warren Buffet, if he truly was going to overthrow capitalism."

Bottom line: pure capitalism and socialism can be a difficult mix.


http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/chi-obama-chicago-socialist,0,4048540.story

Paulitician
10-20-2008, 04:25 PM
Of course he isn't a socialist. He's a crook of the kleptocracy.

D.H.
10-20-2008, 04:32 PM
Of course he isn't a socialist. He's a crook of the kleptocracy.

That's more along my lines of thinking. I have always thought the enemy is corporatism. I hope people remember that we have been living in Halliburton USA for far too long. I don't see it getting better. The socialism I see is more of the same with the bailout. "welfare for the rich"

yongrel
10-20-2008, 04:33 PM
When I came across that article earlier today, I was laughing for a good few minutes. Apparently, socialists are offended by Obama being called a socialist. :D

muzzled dogg
10-20-2008, 05:12 PM
we dont want him

they dont want him

literatim
10-20-2008, 05:24 PM
The Communist Party begs to differ.

Mini-Me
10-20-2008, 05:32 PM
The Communist Party begs to differ.

Oooh, snap!

Darrell West's comments are particularly idiotic, because he's using a false comparison to say Obama can't possibly be a socialist. Since Bush is nationalizing banks - a clearly [national] socialist action - and he supposedly supports the free market, I guess that means Obama's similar views can't be considered socialism, either. :rolleyes:

Truth Warrior
10-20-2008, 05:42 PM
Perhaps only his CFR Director wife is. ;)

The_Orlonater
10-20-2008, 07:02 PM
Hah, what a joke these people are. I think it's hard to say when that Obama isn't a Socialist when he supported nationalizing these banks, except for one(It was Lehman Brothers, I think). Also, didn't he want to nationalize healthcare?