RPF Trolls, Make them famous! *BUMP FOR SUPPORT*

[DAFTEK]

I hope it could be Palin/Baldwin...or something along those lines with Ron Paul as Secretary of Treasury. tones



How much more of this bullshit do we have to put up with on Ron Paul Forums? Why wont these idiots go on McCain/Obama forums and spread their disgusting love fest for them... :mad:

[torchbearer]

How much more of this bullshit do we have to put up with on Ron Paul Forums? Why wont these idiots go on McCain/Obama forums and spread their disgusting love fest for them... :mad:

They are trying to re-educate us. ;)
The same as they have been re-educated back into the collective.
Just looking out for us. :D

[ronpaulhawaii]

Just a few more weeks...

I remember how people were when the mods at TH, FR, etc. just banned RP posters willy-nilly. I don't want to be equated with those wimps...

[torchbearer]

Hey, I'm glad the trolls are being vocal.
In our local meet-ups, we've learned who can be trusted, and who will betray.
We know who to support as future delegates, and who we can't trust with our support.
I say let them talk.

[Chester Copperpot]

Agreed... I like tones... If he is a troll, then he'll eventually come around. Either when he educates himself or when the money runs out

[tonesforjonesbones]

Money? What money? I'm a she. I am not into the collective though. I am just exercising my option to do what I think is best at the moment. My individualism is what is keeping me from jumping into the collective C$L with both feet. I intend to spread the message of Liberty...but I'm not really into joining groups. I like G. Edward Griffin's approach...Freedom Force, which doesn't group people up...but sends people out individually into already established organizations ...to give information and create change FOR ...INDIVIDUALISM! He says If you are grouped up, it's easier for infiltrators to invade and destroy the whole project. Please, go listen to G. Edward Griffins lecture on Individualism vs. Collectivism. It's on google video "An Idea Whose Time Has Come". Now that's the real deal! Tones

[DAFTEK]

^ Ohhh god, here we go again..... :rolleyes:

[JoshLowry]

Money? What money? I'm a she. I am not into the collective though. I am just exercising my option to do what I think is best at the moment. My individualism is what is keeping me from jumping into the collective C$L with both feet. I intend to spread the message of Liberty...but I'm not really into joining groups. I like G. Edward Griffin's approach...Freedom Force, which doesn't group people up...but sends people out individually into already established organizations ...to give information and create change FOR ...INDIVIDUALISM! He says If you are grouped up, it's easier for infiltrators to invade and destroy the whole project. Please, go listen to G. Edward Griffins lecture on Individualism vs. Collectivism. It's on google video "An Idea Whose Time Has Come". Now that's the real deal! Tones

You are the anti-collective on these forums because you are supporting McCain and this makes you the one that is spreading the message of liberty?

[klamath]

At least Kade, Hamadeh, tonesforbones, banthefed etc. are honest and take the heat for their posts. The ones I don't like are the sneaky ones that post article after article demonizing one of the two main candidates in a sneaky attempt to get us to vote for their candidate out of fear of the other but they don't have the guts to stand up and take the heat. Just start taking notes when you see someone posting one article after another but aways against only one candidate

[tonesforjonesbones]

Daftek...you should just go watch that lecture..and you'll see where I am. Quite frankly, I would like to see NO political parties. Just people voting for people with ideas...redistribution of POWER so to speak. tones

[torchbearer]

The individualist doesn't buy into the lesser of two evils argument.

[tonesforjonesbones]

No Josh...I'm seriously afraid of Obama and his communist ways. I consider this an emergency..no joke. 8 years of Obama..God knows what he will do to what little bit of freedom we have left. you know they want a nanny state...is the consolidation of the banks paving the way for Obama to finish us off? I dont' want to see that happen. I just think we have to have checks and balances. I am 51 years old and this is the most frightening election I have seen in my life. Tones

[DAFTEK]

^ @klamath:
How could anyone vote for the lesser two and live with themselves after Ron Paul came into their life's? We have so many choices in the 3rd party...

[tonesforjonesbones]

Torchbearer, I would agree with you if the movement had the numbers...but we don't. I'm just buying time. tones

[DAFTEK]

No Josh...I'm seriously afraid of Obama and his communist ways. I consider this an emergency..no joke. 8 years of Obama..God knows what he will do to what little bit of freedom we have left. you know they want a nanny state...is the consolidation of the banks paving the way for Obama to finish us off? I dont' want to see that happen. I just think we have to have checks and balances. I am 51 years old and this is the most frightening election I have seen in my life. Tones

:eek: AND WHAT WILL YOU SAY WHEN MCCAIN BURNS THIS COUNTRY TO HELL! Please wake up! VOTE 3RD PARTY AND FIGHT ON AND QUIT SPREADING YOUR BULLSHIT ON OUR FORUM!! :mad:

[tonesforjonesbones]

I am also reading that book by John Perkins..."Confessions of an Economic Hit Man". Neither Obama or McCAin will change foreign policy because the corporations and banks run that...but Obama can do more damage domestically than mccain. Tones

[LibertyEagle]

No Josh...I'm seriously afraid of Obama and his communist ways. I consider this an emergency..no joke. 8 years of Obama..God knows what he will do to what little bit of freedom we have left. you know they want a nanny state...is the consolidation of the banks paving the way for Obama to finish us off? I dont' want to see that happen. I just think we have to have checks and balances. I am 51 years old and this is the most frightening election I have seen in my life. Tones

I think maybe it's the fact that you seem to sometimes cheer for McCain/Palin, Tones. Personally, I understand you being so scared of Obama, but I think it makes people wonder about you when you sometimes seem to be promoting McCain. In my opinion, he's better overall than Obama, but he's still a warmongering, gun-grabbing, big government, socialist oink lip.

[JoshLowry]

No Josh...I'm seriously afraid of Obama and his communist ways. I consider this an emergency..no joke. 8 years of Obama..God knows what he will do to what little bit of freedom we have left. you know they want a nanny state...is the consolidation of the banks paving the way for Obama to finish us off? I dont' want to see that happen. I just think we have to have checks and balances. I am 51 years old and this is the most frightening election I have seen in my life. Tones

They are both bad. They are both pre-approved.

[Andrew-Austin]

The e-voting machines are going to favor the democrats this time around. Rigged elections, sad but true.

[klamath]

^ @klamath:
How could anyone vote for the lesser two and live with themselves after Ron Paul came into their life's? We have so many choices in the 3rd party...
Unfortunately the third party candidates this year are the lesser of two evils as well. Baldwin, Barr say the right things but Baldwin is too closely tied to the constitution party which is too theocratic for me and Barr has an ethical gap I can't swallow.

[RonPaulFanInGA]

RPF Trolls, Make them famous!

"You will know their names, and I will make them famous." -John McCain

[tonesforjonesbones]

Well I do like Palin...it would be nice to get her out of the clutches of the neo cons. I don't care for mccain and never have. I am cheering for the grassroots gop..because those are the folks who still love the Founding Fathers, who are patriotic, who are religious (I know most of you are anti religion, but religion is very important to the morality..which is the glue) The grassroots gop is where we will grow our movement. These people still love the Constitution, even if they have forgotten what it says. Grassroots gop ...are your free marketers. They are against social programs. These are the taxpayers who's backs are being broken by the dmocrats. We have to find a way to get them off this war war war...tones

[FindLiberty]

RE: OP Give extra points for exposing trolls and their multiple identities... Quote those one person arguments or support "responses" for extra credit.

Bonus for outing government provocateurs caught sucking away at the great inflationary fiat teat.

[DAFTEK]

I think maybe it's the fact that you seem to sometimes cheer for McCain/Palin, Tones. Personally, I understand you being so scared of Obama, but I think it makes people wonder about you when you sometimes seem to be promoting McCain. In my opinion, he's better overall than Obama, but he's still a warmongering, gun-grabbing, big government, socialist oink lip.

Thank You LE, i couldn't have said it better, this is exactly how i feel about tones.

I fear Obama too, i liked Palin before when people wore voting her as VP for RP but the second she opened her mouth all i heard was McBush....

But i also fear McCain who will no doubt start another war if elected!

So my question is how can someone live with themselves voting for the lesser evil after everything we have learned!

I don't care who you vote for Tones but trying to convince RPM that we must fear Obama and why its crucial for McCain to win is what makes people angry...

[DAFTEK]

"You will know their names, and I will make them famous." -John McCain

Yeah i couldn't help myself my friend :D haha... I'm still waiting for the crackpot to name some of those names... :rolleyes:

[MelissaCato]

Torchbearer, I would agree with you if the movement had the numbers...but we don't.

I think we have our own numbers. It only takes a principled individual people, for at that last minute .. change a vote.

We need to ALL work the Polls November 4 2008. Everyone knows someone(s)...

... we can flip this election .. I just know it. Look how the MSM came our way lately .. ever since we all went to Minnesota actually.

Get off your arses .. print some materials ... and individually GET THE PHUCK OUT THERE ON ELECTION DAY !!!!

.. sorry for my Trollish behavior in this post, it's is clearly despotism.


WHEN, in the Course of human Events, it becomes necessary for one People to dissolve the Political Bands which have connected them with another, and to assume, among the Powers of the Earth, the separate and equal Station to which the Laws of Nature and of Nature's GOD entitle them, a decent Respect to the Opinions of Mankind requires that they should declare the Causes which impel them to the Separation.

We hold these Truths to be self-evident, that all Men are created equal, that they are endowed, by their CREATOR, with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty, and the Pursuit of Happiness.--That to secure these Rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just Powers from the Consent of the Governed, that whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these Ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its Foundation on such Principles, and organizing its Powers in such Form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness. Prudence, indeed, will dictate, that Governments long established, should not be changed for light and transient Causes; and accordingly all Experience hath shewn, that Mankind are more disposed to suffer, while Evils are sufferable, than to right themselves by abolishing the Forms to which they are accustomed. But when a long Train of Abuses and Usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object, evinces a Design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their Right, it is their Duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future Security. Such has been the patient Sufferance of these Colonies; and such is now the Necessity which constrains them to alter their former Systems of Government. The History of the present King of Great-Britain is a History of repeated Injuries and Usurpations, all having in direct Object the Establishment of an absolute Tyranny over these States.

[ronpaulhawaii]

Well I do like Palin...it would be nice to get her out of the clutches of the neo cons. I don't care for mccain and never have. I am cheering for the grassroots gop..because those are the folks who still love the Founding Fathers, who are patriotic, who are religious (I know most of you are anti religion, but religion is very important to the morality..which is the glue) The grassroots gop is where we will grow our movement. These people still love the Constitution, even if they have forgotten what it says. Grassroots gop ...are your free marketers. They are against social programs. These are the taxpayers who's backs are being broken by the dmocrats. We have to find a way to get them off this war war war...tones

Your continued cheerleading of the "divide and conquer" strategy of the false dichotomy indicates a complete lack of critical thinking, or worse...

Need I remind you that Bush&Co presided over the biggest swelling of "big gov't" since FDR?

WAKE UP!!!

[DAFTEK]

Unfortunately the third party candidates this year are the lesser of two evils as well. Baldwin, Barr say the right things but Baldwin is too closely tied to the constitution party which is too theocratic for me and Barr has an ethical gap I can't swallow.


Well shit, then lets throw our hands up in the air and give up, sit home and make babies and get drunk on the McBama koolaid...! Or are you just proposing we vote for McPalin like tones is???

[Real_CaGeD]

Look yawl, I can not stand the utter BULLSHIT of these MSM selected candidates of the NWO.

But......I do understand if you vote Oboma and the reasoning of not setting precedence of a liberal "Republican party". We all know they are both the same old same old.


WE MUST TAKE OVER THE REPUBLICAN PARTY AND IT BEING TOTALLY OUT OF POWER MAKES IT EASIER!

Now, after the democrat super majority hits, run to your Republican party meeting and RAISE TOTAL HELL THAT THEY FAILED AND YOU SHOULD LEAD!

[ronpaulhawaii]

Well shit, then lets throw our hands up in the air and give up, sit home and make babies and get drunk on the McBama koolaid...! Or are you just proposing we vote for McPalin like tones is???

I can't fault people for not voting on the top slot this year. I wish they would see the reasoning for giving their vote to a third party (to increase visibility amongst the masses). The whole "lesser of two evils" rhetoric is not helpful. Many would say all gov't is a necessary "evil"

[LittleLightShining]

I am also reading that book by John Perkins..."Confessions of an Economic Hit Man". Neither Obama or McCAin will change foreign policy because the corporations and banks run that...but Obama can do more damage domestically than mccain. TonesThis is a really flawed argument. George Bush's domestic policy was horrible. Just because McCain sounds "better" than Obama it means nothing. For crying out loud Bush said one thing pre-election and turned around and did the exact opposite.


I think maybe it's the fact that you seem to sometimes cheer for McCain/Palin, Tones. Personally, I understand you being so scared of Obama, but I think it makes people wonder about you when you sometimes seem to be promoting McCain. In my opinion, he's better overall than Obama, but he's still a warmongering, gun-grabbing, big government, socialist oink lip.She cheers for Palin.

[klamath]

Well shit, then lets throw our hands up in the air and give up, sit home and make babies and get drunk on the McBama koolaid...! Or are you just proposing we vote for McPalin like tones is???

NOT AT ALL! We just don't have a choice in the presidential race. There are lots of other races that need our attention.

[LittleLightShining]

NOT AT ALL! We just don't have a choice in the presidential race. There are lots of other races that need our attention.I'm so fed up with the presidential election. I fear Obama more than McCain but it doesn't matter which one wins. They have a mission to accomplish and it will be accomplished. You're right. We need to focus on the Congressional races and state elections. We have to take it back from the bottom up.

[tonesforjonesbones]

I know several Liberty lovers on my local level who are gearing up to run for offices. I started the Libertarian Party in my town...and I passed it off to a very energetic young man who is going to run for office..2 people in the Libertarian Party that I STARTED...are running for office and I WILL support them and campaign for them. There are also a couple of Ron Paul Republicans planning to run and I will also support them. So don't tell me I'm not working for the movement. We have to clean up our own back yards first...but for now, I'm trying to keep some leverage with the GOP on the national level. If the GOP gets wiped out In the executive and the congress...how will Ron Paul be able to continue with HIS work? The damn democrats will put DEMOCRATS in those important appointed positions and Ron Paul will really be alone then...don't yall think about these things???? Tones

[MelissaCato]

They have a mission to accomplish and it will be accomplished.

So do we.

[newyearsrevolution08]

How much more of this bullshit do we have to put up with on Ron Paul Forums? Why wont these idiots go on McCain/Obama forums and spread their disgusting love fest for them... :mad:

Agreed

Palin is a joke
Mccain is a chump
Obama is a socialist
Biden is a prick

I wish we could remove all talk about ALL OF THEM myself but then where would all the fun debate come from? lol. I do agree most of these people are only on here to try and push their own agendas but hell who doesn't do that in politics.

Vote for who you want but I agree there is too much push for bullshit candidates on here and wish it would STOP.

[newyearsrevolution08]

The damn democrats will put DEMOCRATS in those important appointed positions and Ron Paul will really be alone then...don't yall think about these things???? Tones

Democrats will put WHO into these positions. We elect these people, it isn't the party that you need to worry about but rather the terrible candidates who are on BOTH parties right now.

Try looking passed the party voting man.


He is alone in his own party anyways so why worry about the dems shutting him off as well. Both parties are not what they should be and the candidates who try and pretend to be under these parties are far left or far right and have zero to do with a democratic process or our republic.

We need to vote for this person to make sure we don't let this party or that party take over. They are both going to do terrible things to this country anyways in BOTH parties. Just look at the senate and congress vote counts, looks pretty even for the most part when it comes down to the vote. All a dinner and show and people actually think that getting one party into this position or that is going to make a difference.

[qh4dotcom]

No Josh...I'm seriously afraid of Obama and his communist ways.

Looks like you think that your McCain vote is going to decide the outcome of election...it will be a tiebreaker vote that keeps Obama out of the White House...that's the way millions of sheeple behave although they won't admit it.

and if you're smarter than the sheeple, then there's no reason for you to support McCain and betray Dr. Paul who has encouraged you to vote 3rd party....no reason to become a troll in this forum

[klamath]

I'm so fed up with the presidential election. I fear Obama more than McCain but it doesn't matter which one wins. They have a mission to accomplish and it will be accomplished. You're right. We need to focus on the Congressional races and state elections. We have to take it back from the bottom up.

Oh my gosh you are supporting McCain you have and elephant in your avator!:D:D
I am real upset that the libertarian didn't make the ballot this year in my congressional district. I really really wanted to vote against my Republican congressman this year. He voted for the bailout. I even researched the democrat running against him. He lives near me and I know him personally but he is into bigtime democratic politics and believes in even more government. Grrrrrr!:mad: Another blank spot on my ballot.

[tonesforjonesbones]

I am talking about COMMITTEES....isn't Ron Paul on some finance committee? Don't you want him to be able to hang on to those kinds of positions he is in? I think that is VERY important for republicans to be able to keep their committee positions. tones

[Cowlesy]

I will not vote for either, but I do sympathize with TONES in one respect, and that is the left is getting very serious about socialism. We always bat the term around and I fear use it much too loosely.

I don't know if any of you watched Bill Maher this past Friday, but he had Martin Short, Ben Affleck and Senator Bernie Sanders on as panelists.

It was a socialism cheerfest, with an explicit acknowledgment that despite our beginnings, we are now committed to trying the socialist experiment. Bernie Sanders, an admitted Democratic Socialist, explained the difference between Democratic Socialism and Totalitarian Communism. He pointed to examples like Scandanavia and other european countries where Healthcare and Education are rights, and the people in the audience and all the panelists cheered, hooted, and hollered for it.

His view and the panelists view was that the wealth gap between rich and poor has become so great, that the people are ready for making an "even playing field".

There was no talk about how our nation started, what made us great and self-reliant people, only about how the State needs to redistribute the income to close the wealth gap. Martin Short, a Canadian, extolled the virtues of his country's "wonderfully clean streets" and "terrific healthcare rights", and how Canadians looked at us like a neighbor such as a "belligerent Rosie O'Donnell"----gets on your nerves but someone you want in a fight.

The whole show was unnerving. When Obama wins the presidency, the Democrats obtain a filibuster proof majority in the Senate, the Republicans may just as well stay home because they will have no say in anything.

Socialism is coming. The sheep will clamor for its perceived justice not realizing they're helping to write the final chapter in our republic.

[mitty]

Unfortunately the third party candidates this year are the lesser of two evils as well. Baldwin, Barr say the right things but Baldwin is too closely tied to the constitution party which is too theocratic for me and Barr has an ethical gap I can't swallow.

what a generalized statement. if you can't find one third party candidate or official write who you think would make a good president then you have problems

[tonesforjonesbones]

Oh dear God. If this gets in it will be nearly impossible to reverse it. You can forget what tad bit of freedom we have left. Tones

[Kludge]

Didn't you previously shill for McCain (Palin), DAFTEK...?

[tonesforjonesbones]

If the democrats sweep..at least McCain would have the power of the veto pen..we have GOT to maintain checks and balances or our movement will not get off the ground...we need to buy time. Tones

[klamath]

I will not vote for either, but I do sympathize with TONES in one respect, and that is the left is getting very serious about socialism. We always bat the term around and I fear use it much too loosely.

I don't know if any of you watched Bill Maher this past Friday, but he had Martin Short, Ben Affleck and Senator Bernie Sanders on as panelists.

It was a socialism cheerfest, with an explicit acknowledgment that despite our beginnings, we are now committed to trying the socialist experiment. Bernie Sanders, an admitted Democratic Socialist, explained the difference between Democratic Socialism and Totalitarian Communism. He pointed to examples like Scandanavia and other european countries where Healthcare and Education are rights, and the people in the audience and all the panelists cheered, hooted, and hollered for it.

His view and the panelists view was that the wealth gap between rich and poor has become so great, that the people are ready for making an "even playing field".

There was no talk about how our nation started, what made us great and self-reliant people, only about how the State needs to redistribute the income to close the wealth gap. Martin Short, a Canadian, extolled the virtues of his country's "wonderfully clean streets" and "terrific healthcare rights", and how Canadians looked at us like a neighbor such as a "belligerent Rosie O'Donnell"----gets on your nerves but someone you want in a fight.

The whole show was unnerving. When Obama wins the presidency, the Democrats obtain a filibuster proof majority in the Senate, the Republicans may just as well stay home because they will have no say in anything.

Socialism is coming. The sheep will clamor for its perceived justice not realizing they're helping to write the final chapter in our republic.

You are so right! As I have said before this election has turned into a referendum on the free market and it really is going to be the socialists day on the first Tuesday of Nov. They are already rubbing their hands together in glee at getting their hands on all those powers Bush gave the presidency.

[klamath]

what a generalized statement. if you can't find one third party candidate or official write who you think would make a good president then you have problems

You have problems buddy:mad: I don't vote third party just to vote third party I have to believe in the person and policies of the candidate.

[tonesforjonesbones]

I know Klamath...can you imagine what regulations the democrats will put on the corporations and It wouldn't surprise me if they try to nationalize the oil industry like russia and china. They will raise taxes into orbit AND continue the wars. Tones

[klamath]

I know Klamath...can you imagine what regulations the democrats will put on the corporations and It wouldn't surprise me if they try to nationalize the oil industry like russia and china. They will raise taxes into orbit AND continue the wars. Tones Don't dispair. Ronald Reagan said after Carter and the Democrats swept into power in 1976. "they have the whole tomale now." Four years later Carter lost by double digits.

[mitty]

You have problems buddy:mad: I don't vote third party just to vote third party I have to believe in the person and policies of the candidate.

you obviously didn't read my post

[Cowlesy]

Oh and BY THE WAY, CARBON TAXES are COMING.

I recently viewed a huge, detailed powerpoint presentation about it at work, and you can be CERTAIN those taxes and/or limitations on Carbon limits are real. This will be rolled out in 2 years or less.

There is no way this will be stopped in a 100% democratically controlled government.

[tonesforjonesbones]

I bet you money that border fence gets built ...because they will have to keep IN the conservatives who will be running for the borders due to the communist takeover. I hear so many on paltalk asking and discussing where to go. Tones

[MelissaCato]

LISTEN UP !!!

All Ya'll need to pull together all the me, myself, and I's ...

If you represent this movement with honesty .. you know who to vote for already given our current options. Ron Paul even endorsed a POTUS, for Christ sake.

I personally would feel like a traitor supporting anyone else at the Polls. But, that's just me.

Now, for those of you who are talking smack here on the Ron Paul Forums and supporting Obama or McCain @ the Polls.. you are clearly a Traitor or Troll.

We know these things.

"Lead me, follow me, or get out of my way." ~ General George Patton Jr

[Aratus]

Need I remind you that Bush&Co presided
over the biggest swelling of "big gov't" since FDR?

WAKE UP!!!

g.w bush took on an equal standing to FDR's ability to
wage war as he DOUBLES our national debt. clinton,
like grover cleveland, balanced his budget... go figure!
our BILL OF RIGHTs is in tatters! we have a more intense
level of surveillance insted of a more focused sense of policy!

[Real_CaGeD]

LISTEN UP !!!

All Ya'll need to pull together all the me, myself, and I's ...

If you represent this movement with honesty .. you know who to vote for already given our current options. Ron Paul even endorsed a POTUS, for Christ sake.

I personally would feel like a traitor supporting anyone else at the Polls. But, that's just me.

Now, for those of you who are talking smack here on the Ron Paul Forums and supporting Obama or McCain @ the Polls.. you are clearly a Traitor or Troll.

We know these things.

"Lead me, follow me, or get out of my way." ~ General George Patton Jr

I aint voting at all.

[MelissaCato]

I aint voting at all.

Then your part of the problem we need to hurdle over. Ron Paul threw all his honorable mentions behind Baldwin @ the Constitution Party for POTUS 2008 Ballot.

What is your problem ? What don't you understand ? Your not voting ? WTF !!

If your not part of the solution ... STFU.

[klamath]

you obviously didn't read my post

Well, Please elaborate. We may just had a problem in communication because the way I read your post it says I should like one on the third party candidates or I am nuts:D

[ronpaulhawaii]

Oh and BY THE WAY, CARBON TAXES are COMING.

I recently viewed a huge, detailed powerpoint presentation about it at work, and you can be CERTAIN those taxes and/or limitations on Carbon limits are real. This will be rolled out in 2 years or less.

There is no way this will be stopped in a 100% democratically controlled government.

Does anyone here really believe that McCain would veto a carbon tax bill? He is on record supporting the global warming hoax.

He is a tool of the banksters and will not be standing up against the socialists. He is one.

[LittleLightShining]

Oh my gosh you are supporting McCain you have and elephant in your avator!:D:D
I am real upset that the libertarian didn't make the ballot this year in my congressional district. I really really wanted to vote against my Republican congressman this year. He voted for the bailout. I even researched the democrat running against him. He lives near me and I know him personally but he is into bigtime democratic politics and believes in even more government. Grrrrrr!:mad: Another blank spot on my ballot.
Ack! No! I'm not voting for McCain! I haven't completely made up my mind yet but I think I'm voting for Baldwin.

[Conza88]

Hmmm damn. I was going to post a clip of those McCain ladies / dancers / singers..

And say it was tones.

Couldn't find it but. :(

[Knightskye]

"You will know their names. I will make them famous."

McCain, is that you? :D

[nodope0695]

A quote from my favorite TROLL, EndTheFed:


Well for me, at this point I am voting for the lesser of two evils..

I know, I know... I have read all the arguments against that but I live in the real world and for THIS election either McCain or Obama is going to be elected.

Maybe by next election we will have grown large enough to make a dfference in the outcome but in reality today we are not.
So therefore I must support McAin/Palin

Sorry if that is offensive to anyone BUT I am for Liberty too... Mine!

I've taken to filling his posts with pictures of retards and trolls. May not do any good, but damn its fun.:D

[Chester Copperpot]

Anybody remember cjhowe ??

He always defended the federal reserve and said how good the IRS and income taxes were..

you know, its patriotic to pay taxes... hah

[libertythor]

Does anybody know if Digg's resident troll Onetimer is on here causing trouble with a different name?

[ronpaulhawaii]

Does anybody know if Digg's resident troll Onetimer is on here causing trouble with a different name?

That one is a piece of work. I have no idea how to find the IPs of DIGG users, but think I could spot his... style:rolleyes:

[nodope0695]

Anybody remember Liberty_TN?

I was perusing my profile, and noticed he was on my ignore list. Seems he's been banned for some time now. Read over his posts...lol. Got a laugh from some of them. If there was ever a poster boy for "Don't Feed the Trolls", Liberty_TN is the guy.:cool:

[DAFTEK]

Didn't you previously shill for McCain (Palin), DAFTEK...?

Ummm No Kade, all i said was Palin was liked by RP members for RP-VP before she got on the McCain bandwagon, granted i gave her the benefit to show herself before i wrote her off. The women instantly sounded like McCain the moment she opened her stupid mouth...

[DAFTEK]

Oh and BY THE WAY, CARBON TAXES are COMING.

I recently viewed a huge, detailed powerpoint presentation about it at work, and you can be CERTAIN those taxes and/or limitations on Carbon limits are real. This will be rolled out in 2 years or less.

There is no way this will be stopped in a 100% democratically controlled government.

So should we use this as an excuse to cave in and vote for McPalin? I can never live with myself voting again if i ever did that. I did the lesser evil thing last time around.. I seriously like Baldwin and cant wait to vote for him, the man doesn't get enough credit. :(

[nodope0695]

I did the lesser evil thing last time around..


So did I...I "towed the party line", and voted for "W." I'm still reeling from the shame....:(

[nodope0695]

Ummm No Kade, all i said was Palin was liked by RP members for RP-VP before she got on the McCain bandwagon, granted i gave her the benefit to show herself before i wrote her off. The women instantly sounded like McCain the moment she opened her stupid mouth...

Yep, she was well programmed for NeoCon Speak....just like a good little girl.

[DAFTEK]

Then your part of the problem we need to hurdle over. Ron Paul threw all his honorable mentions behind Baldwin @ the Constitution Party for POTUS 2008 Ballot.

What is your problem ? What don't you understand ? Your not voting ? WTF !!

If your not part of the solution ... STFU.

Just as i was reading this CNN threw McZombie on tv again, can someone explain to me why my stomach hurts so much every time i see that loon? 4 years of this idiot vs. 4 years of the other idiot... :mad:

http://www.davidnaylor.co.uk/blog/dan/mcain.jpg

[tonesforjonesbones]

If you were selected to be vice president would you protest and not shill for the top ticket person? If so, you wouldn't be there very long. Tones (pssssst Biden has to shill for Obama...he said a lot of opposite things in the presidential debates to include that Obama was too inexperienced to be president)

[garyallen59]

ok i'm gonna troll for baldwin for a minute

i'm so tired of this "i'm scared of baldwin because he will be a theocrat" bullshit.

you all know better. i think some people are just saying it to sound cool for the atheists here.

honestly, guys baldwin is not a lesser of two evils candidate. if anyone out of all the candidates should be in the white house to further our liberty movement it should be baldwin. he's not gonna federally ban all your selfish acts against God. he wants to return the nation to constitutional law. damn i wish some of you would get off your atheist/religion hating high horse and realize that and come together so we can put all our votes behind one candidate.

[DAFTEK]

So did I...I "towed the party line", and voted for "W." I'm still reeling from the shame....:(

So am i.. :( I have my picture taken with him and gave one to my dad who hanged it in his office, i threw mine in the trash but my dad did not, he threw it in the closet since people gave him crap about it... Now when i see W on tv all i get so disgusted with myself...

[nodope0695]

ok i'm gonna troll for baldwin for a minute

i'm so tired of this "i'm scared of baldwin because he will be a theocrat" bullshit.

you all know better. i think some people are just saying it to sound cool for the atheists here.

honestly, guys baldwin is not a lesser of two evils candidate. if anyone out of all the candidates should be in the white house to further our liberty movement it should be baldwin. he's not gonna federally ban all your selfish acts against God. he wants to return the nation to constitutional law. damn i wish some of you would get off your atheist/religion hating high horse and realize that and come together so we can put all our votes behind one candidate.

+1

[nodope0695]

So am i.. :( I have my picture taken with him and gave one to my dad who hanged it in his office, i threw mine in the trash but my dad did not, he threw it in the closet since people gave him crap about it... Now when i see W on tv all i get so disgusted with myself...

Discusted ain't the word...I can't even watch him anymore. Even when the news shows a clip of one of his speeches I mute it or change the channel...If there was ever a reason to ashamed to be and American, George W. Bush is it.

[angelatc]

You are the anti-collective on these forums because you are supporting McCain and this makes you the one that is spreading the message of liberty?

Don't spend a lot of time trying to make that work out logically. It is impossible for insanity to be rationalized. That's what defines it as insanity.

[revolutionisnow]

Do you think Trevor Lyman is a plant or is doing damage to the revolution?


Here's Hammer aka SGP/ Steve Parent.

[angelatc]

My personal favorite from Obamadeh.



No I cannot vote, I just submitted by mothers absentee ballot, she votes who I vote for, she voted for Ron Paul, and I'm saddened that I had to vote for Barack Obama, but it was the right thing I had to do.

Reads: "I do not respect the law, I support voter fraud and I support Obama!"

I can't help but think of "Rolf" in the Sound Of Music.

The Obama Youth are coming, and Hamadeh is going to get a whistle.

[Theocrat]

How much more of this bullshit do we have to put up with on Ron Paul Forums? Why wont these idiots go on McCain/Obama forums and spread their disgusting love fest for them... :mad:

Tones is not a troll. I may disagree with her decision to vote for McCain/Palin, but that does not make her an alien to Congressman Paul's general message of liberty on these forums. She's just trying to be pragmatic in desperation and fear of socialist Obama "ascending the throne." I can sympathize with that, but does she not have the liberty to share her thoughts with us here on the forums? I thought we all supported the "campaign for liberty," which implies forbearance with dissenting views and speech.

[nodope0695]

Tones is not a troll. I may disagree with her decision to vote for McCain/Palin, but that does not make her an alien to Congressman Paul's general message of liberty on these forums. She's just trying to be pragmatic in desperation and fear of socialist Obama "ascending the throne." I can sympathize with that, but does she not have the liberty to share her thoughts with us here on the forums? I thought we all supported the "campaign for liberty," which implies forbearance with dissenting views and speech.

Yeah, I thougt Tones was a troll at first, but I don't think so now....I've read some of his/her posts and I was wrong with my initial impression...much apologies.

Now, that dude EndTheFed is another story alltogether....real peice of work, that guy.

[nodope0695]

Just as i was reading this CNN threw McZombie on tv again, can someone explain to me why my stomach hurts so much every time i see that loon? 4 years of this idiot vs. 4 years of the other idiot... :mad:

http://www.davidnaylor.co.uk/blog/dan/mcain.jpg

And I thought when I first saw this picture that is was a doctored pic....turns out it is NOT doctored, and is real. I saw the video from whence it came...what a complete idiot McShit4Brains is. If not worse than Bush, then no better either. I don't think I can handle 4 or even 8 more years of being ashamed of the United States....God help us.

[EndTheFed]

No Josh...I'm seriously afraid of Obama and his communist ways. I consider this an emergency..no joke. 8 years of Obama..God knows what he will do to what little bit of freedom we have left. you know they want a nanny state...is the consolidation of the banks paving the way for Obama to finish us off? I dont' want to see that happen. I just think we have to have checks and balances. I am 51 years old and this is the most frightening election I have seen in my life. Tones


I am 50.... Ditto...

[klamath]

My personal favorite from Obamadeh.



Reads: "I do not respect the law, I support voter fraud and I support Obama!"

I can't help but think of "Rolf" in the Sound Of Music.

The Obama Youth are coming, and Hamadeh is going to get a whistle.

Now that is a scary analogy!

[acptulsa]

Well, I'll be 45 by the end of this week and the only person who I feel could be more frightened by this election than any other in the last thirty or forty years is someone who has reason to be afraid of the public actually beginning to pay attention.

Carter and Clinton appointed justices that thrashed the second and tenth amendments. Reagan and The Flora appointed justices that have trashed the other eight. Reagan ran as a fiscal conservative and then racked up more debt than the rest of the presidents of history combined, if you don't factor in inflation (and came close even if you do). Flora Jr. ran as one, too, and started the biggest bureau yet--and dedicated it to the end of our privacy. And his daddy did much to overregulate markets.

I've never seen much to differentiate those parties before. Now there's practically nothing left. I agree that this is an important election. But this time we really have a clear lesser of evils--one voted for the bailout, the other didn't--in a great many races to exploit. The damned presidential race is not one of those areas.

An important election? I'll say! Important because one major party presidential candidate is significantly better than the other? Bwahahahahahaha!

Some of you baby boomers are just plain nuts, you know that?

[Pete]

I've never seen much to differentiate those parties before. Now there's practically nothing left. I agree that this is an important election. But this time we really have a clear lesser of evils--one voted for the bailout, the other didn't--in a great many races to exploit. The damned presidential race is not one of those areas.

Eh? Both majors voted for the bailout. I did, however, see a McCain ad in which he implied that he did not, which would be a falsehood.

[Danke]

Hmmm damn. I was going to post a clip of those McCain ladies / dancers / singers..

And say it was tones.

Couldn't find it but. :(

You mean the Missile Dick Chicks? http://www.missiledickchicks.net/

http://www.missiledickchicks.net/images/2_15_5.jpg

[acptulsa]

Eh? Both majors voted for the bailout. I did, however, see a McCain ad in which he implied that he did not, which would be a falsehood.

...in a great many races... The presidential race is not one of them. As I said and you quoted.

Maybe things will crash hard enough that we can get people interested in a minor party candidate or independent. Otherwise or in the meantime, there IS this thing called Congress...

[Conza88]

You mean the Missile Dick Chicks? http://www.missiledickchicks.net/

http://www.missiledickchicks.net/images/2_15_5.jpg

Lmao... no... worse than that actually...

Real bad singing, real ugly n old ladies.. wit some bad tune for mccain.. but pretty good editting..

[ronpaulhawaii]

You mean the Missile Dick Chicks? http://www.missiledickchicks.net/



http://i209.photobucket.com/albums/bb19/mkauai/RPFs/IMAGE_00028.jpg

Danke, enjoying the show :D

[DAFTEK]

And I thought when I first saw this picture that is was a doctored pic....turns out it is NOT doctored, and is real. I saw the video from whence it came...what a complete idiot McShit4Brains is. If not worse than Bush, then no better either. I don't think I can handle 4 or even 8 more years of being ashamed of the United States....God help us.

lol... I cant find the video now but yeah, i fell out of my chair.... haha:D

[libertarian4321]

Well I do like Palin...

Okay, I'll bite. What is it you find appealing about Palin? Is it:

1. The involvement of Palin and her husband with a group that wants to secede from the USA?
2. Her support of PORK both as Mayor and Governnor- including, of course, the infamous "bridge to nowhere" and the "road to nowhere: (which was actually built with taxpayer money and goes...nowhere).
3. The way she whips up her followers into a frenzy with her cries of "terrorist" and "Hussein" and "Ayers", to the point where they shout back "terrorist", "Muslim", and "Kill HIM!"? That kind of stuff would make Hitler proud.
4. Her "DEER IN THE HEADLIGHTS" look when she is asked simple questions in an interview- followed by a stammering and incoherent answer? Or maybe it was the way she spewed prepared talking points in the debate even when they didn't apply to the question asked.
5. Her obvious lack of knowledge on most national matters- foreign policy, economics, etc.
6. Her religious zealotry- you know, the "we are on a mission from God in Iraq" crap, or the witchery ritual.
7. Her support of the insane war in Iraq. As well as support for further military misadventure in Iran and who knows where else.
8. Her obvious genius- 6 years and 4 transfers to get a BA in Journalism from a state school.
9. Or is it something else?

Palin is freakin' scary- so woefully unqualified that she'd destroy this nation whether she wanted to or not. McCain is a jerk, a vile human being, and wrong on the issues- but he probably wouldn't destroy the Republic.

[libertarian4321]

To those who say they "aren't voting at all", don't throw you chance away.

I can understand not voting for President- I don't see any good choices there myself.

But down ballot, you may have good candidates who need your support. Plus, you can vote on ballot initiatives and the like.

So make sure you vote, even if you leave the President box blank.

[Danke]

http://i209.photobucket.com/albums/bb19/mkauai/RPFs/IMAGE_00028.jpg

Danke, enjoying the show :D

Definitely something I can get behind!

[ronpaulhawaii]

definitely something i can get behind!
:D

[speciallyblend]

Definitely something I can get behind!

you know something i dj clubs and i have djed go-go bars ,but that parade ??? i was thinking holy crap wtf:) glad we all went up front instead of behind all the craziness;)

[ronpaulhawaii]

you know something i dj clubs and i have djed go-go bars ,but that parade ??? I was thinking holy crap wtf:) glad we all went up front instead of behind all the craziness;)

"his balls are hanging out!!!" - lmao :d

[AbolishTheGovt]

Hmmm damn. I was going to post a clip of those McCain ladies / dancers / singers..

And say it was tones.

Couldn't find it but. :(

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SkH2H40VVKo

[angelatc]

I didn't know about it.

Is deferring the power to the family males a cultural type of thing?

[JohnMeridith]

To throw your support to either the dems or the reps makes you part of the problem. There is no possible way to justify your knowingly ignorant stance!!!

[kombayn]

BRAAAAAAAHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!! -tones

[purplechoe]

No, its when I was fighting for a year, putting ads in Michigan, GOTV for Arabs and Muslims, its that kind of thing what my mother sees, and she let me have the honor of filling in the arrow for all the hard work.

Are you trying to convince us or yourself?

It's still evil any way you try and justify it to yourself. If you voted for Obama, you voted to have some people blown up in Pakistan instead if Iraq/ Iran. Remember that you voted for that person next time the bombs start falling. Not to memtion socialism which is pure hell. I know, I used to live under communism.

[ProBlue33]

By this threads standard I guess you consider Colin Powell a troll too.

When I use my own liberty and free thinking ability, I found his points to be the most valid of anybody when he endorsed Obama.

It really is sad to see all the old Ron Paul supporters divided up, I think many of us have slipped back to are old ways. However my support has changed over the years too.

Supported Bush 2000
Very against Bush 2004
Pro Ron Paul 2007-2008, forced to move Obama as America/World can't take another 4/8 years of neocon stupidity. And can you imagine Palin as President?

[JohnMeridith]

I still find it amazing people can say Obama is different from Mccain. What is really so different? What makes me "really sad" is a person who is member of this site that doesn't "get it". Vote for Obama or Vote for Mccain and you are no better than the rest of the trash fucking up this country.

[Bman]

Oh dear God. If this gets in it will be nearly impossible to reverse it. You can forget what tad bit of freedom we have left. Tones

What's funny about that comment is that the Republicans you are supporting have done far more against personal liberties than the Democrats you are attacking.

Now while Capitalism vs Communism use to be a valid rally point for the Republican party it is nothing but rhetorical nonsense at this point.

Nothing good will come from this presidential election. If you think there is a lesser of two evils I'd say you haven't been paying attention to voting records. For me actions speak much louder than words.

While I beleive good people exist in both parties, none of them are running for president or vice president(again you really need to look at Palins voting record. She believes in liberty as much as I believe in the easter bunny). To vote for either of those two is the most wasted vote, ever.