John Stossel will rip apart Mccain-Feingold + more - Tonight 10:00 PM - 20/20 (ABC)

[MRoCkEd]

http://a.abcnews.com/images/2020/abc_mccain_obama_081013_mn.jpg (http://abcnews.go.com/2020)
Watch our libertarian friend John Stossel's "Politically Incorrect Guide to Politics" at 10 p.m. EST tonight Friday, Oct. 17 on ABC.

[MRoCkEd]

umpity-bay

[RSLudlum]

LOL, I don't know how long it's been since I actually watched any of the major network channels!!!

[Suzu]

10 PM in which time zone?

[MRoCkEd]

10 PM in which time zone?
EST - 1 hour from this post

[haaaylee]

and the title of the episode of NUMB3RS that is on at the same time is "Blowback"

[carmaphob]

thanks, ill watch it.

9pm central

[Chieftain1776]

On Now!

[Chieftain1776]

wtf out of sync

[Jeremy]

dis is good stuff

[Jeremy]

wtf out of sync

ya, i noticed it on that guy from CATO too

but it was only once rly fast

[Rangeley]

Good stuff.

[powerofreason]

They're talking about the bailout next. He better rail on the Fed.

[MRoCkEd]

it's so refreshing to watch john stossel point out the false promises of mcbama and how more government is not the answer

[Chieftain1776]

This is awesome...I wish Stossel could do this every week. Apparently 7 million people are watching this http://blog.nielsen.com/nielsenwire/tag/2020/. More than Deal or No Deal.

[MRoCkEd]

i wish he interviewed ron paul about the bailout
then again, the executives would probably then make it online only...

[1000-points-of-fright]

What was the first 15 mins about? I missed it.

[MRoCkEd]

What was the first 15 mins about? I missed it.
about disproving the myth that we need government for order in society
instead, stossel argued, there is spontaneous order due to individual self-interest

[rprprs]

It is, indeed, awesome. And, after it's over, it's time to get on the comments board.

http://abcnews.go.com/2020

[forsmant]

John Stossel is awesome.

[MRoCkEd]

He's slamming FEMA now.

[Jeremy]

whyd you mention mccain/feingold in the title though

im guessing thats a rly small part of this overall awesome show =D

[MRoCkEd]

whyd you mention mccain/feingold in the title though

im guessing thats a rly small part of this overall awesome show =D
because that was a headline on 20/20

anyway, it seems campaign finance will be coming up next

[Chieftain1776]

Watching this campaign finance sham makes me want to vomit in disgust

[MRoCkEd]

Watching this campaign finance sham makes me want to vomit in disgust
i thought i couldnt hate mccain more...

[Jeremy]

i want to buy this on dvd :p

[MRoCkEd]

i want to buy this on dvd :p
Have you seen John Stossel's other specials? They're just as good or better.

Now he's slamming the farm bill!!!!

[Zera]

awesome, free $27,000 for doing nothing.

[rprprs]

He's just about hitting it all. This is spectacular.

[Chieftain1776]

Did she say "don't push us" when Stossel said why don't we subsidize everything? Or maybe I misheard?

[Zera]

FUCKING SWEET WOLVES

sgdgsdsgaasdfdasfsfafsdadfafds

[Jeremy]

Did she say "don't push us" when Stossel said why don't we subsidize everything? Or maybe I misheard?
i think she did o.0

[Chieftain1776]

Man, if we had a someone with the wealth of Ross Perot run and sent this 20/20 episode as a dvd (instead of the fear mongering "Obsession" dvd i received in the mail)....it would be amazing.

[Wadesc]

Did she say "don't push us" when Stossel said why don't we subsidize everything? Or maybe I misheard?

Yes,

Im absolutely horrified.

If thats what happens when you call out a politician on their BS then we are in for some trouble.

[rprprs]

Did she say "don't push us" when Stossel said why don't we subsidize everything? Or maybe I misheard?

I'm not sure of the exact words... I think it was even more challenging than that. But whatever the exact words, it was beyond arrogant.:mad:

[satchelmcqueen]

recording it now. will watch it tomorrow sometime.

[Chieftain1776]

If she did maybe I'm going to send her an email and ask her to subsidize my toilet paper usage.

[powerofreason]

Did she say "don't push us" when Stossel said why don't we subsidize everything? Or maybe I misheard?

You heard right.

[Rangeley]

Will this be online so we could send it around for people to see?

[Chieftain1776]

I think, but am not sure this was her (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sheila_Jackson_Lee), she inherited Barbara Jordan's seat...if I remember reading correctly Jordan was pretty socialist.

[Zera]

You guys have hearing problems. She said "We don't want to push it." Quite idiotic, but not as demonic as what you guys thought she said.

[Chieftain1776]

I really hope so...as I said I wasn't sure.

[rprprs]

Somebody get that exact quote. If she said "We don't want to push it", then I apologize for my complete outrage. But I won't be satisfied until I hear it again.

[Rangeley]

I thought I heard just "Don't push it."

[Texan4Life]

That was an awesome 20/20

[MsDoodahs]

I missed it.

Is there an online spot or will it be rebroadcast later?

Anyone know?

Thanks.

[rprprs]

I missed it.

Is there an online spot or will it be rebroadcast later?

Anyone know?

Thanks.

Unfortunately, you missed one of TV's greatest moments, and I don't see any evidence that it will be re-broadcast. I sure hope it pops up on the tubes or someplace.

Edit: If anyone recorded it and would be gracious enough to provide me a copy, I would be more than happy to reimburse for all costs.

[Texan4Life]

http://abcnews.go.com/2020/stossel

http://i33.tinypic.com/bh2y1.jpg <---- JohnStossel@abcnews.com


Sent a simple message saying how great the show was :) I hope others do to.



I missed it.

Is there an online spot or will it be rebroadcast later?


if you go here http://abcnews.go.com/2020/stossel you can read the articles. I hope someone gets it on youtube shortly though. Everything better on youtube :)

[johnrocks]

If I was gay, I would have a "man crush" on John Stossel.:p

[Brassmouth]

If I was gay, I would have a "man crush" on John Stossel.:p

I'm not gay, and I DO have a man crush on John Stossel.


(I'm so confused....)


:p

[Flirple]

You can see some of the segments from tonight's special at this link: http://abcnews.go.com/Video/playerIndex?id=6059325

Along the bottom you will see video links for a lot of different ABC segments. Not just the Stossel segments. So Click on these titles:

"Government should leave farm biz."
"Promising the World".
"Trudging through NOLA bureaucracy"

and his good segment from last week:
"Should some people not vote."

Also, you can go to the links below for a treasure trove of past Stossel specials in mp3 podcast form as well as some of his interviews, speeches, and audio book clips:

"Greed is Good": http://acu.libsyn.com/index.php?post_id=268955

"Sick in America": http://acu.libsyn.com/index.php?post_id=268733

"Stupid in America": http://acu.libsyn.com/index.php?post_id=48122

An interview about his book: http://acu.libsyn.com/index.php?post_id=210433

An hour long excerpt from his audiobook: http://acu.libsyn.com/index.php?post_id=219497

And a speech to a young republican club: http://acu.libsyn.com/index.php?post_id=354393

[rprprs]

You guys have hearing problems. She said "We don't want to push it." Quite idiotic, but not as demonic as what you guys thought she said.

Ahhh...here it is.. the exact quote. I knew I wasn't the one with the hearing problem, and I knew it was a direct challenge and threat to Stossel (and the rest of us).

The response was: "You don't want to push us."

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/Vote2008/Story?id=6050559&page=3

Now I can sleep (though I will have fearful nightmares).

[RSLudlum]

WOO HOOO!!!!

here it is in 6part YouTube

http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=stossel+%22politically+incorr ect+guide%22&search_sort=video_date_uploaded

[Brassmouth]

Yay!!!

[Chieftain1776]

Thanks for getting the video and news story in print. I incorporated them in the email I sent to her opponent John Faulk. http://faulkforcongress.org

Mr. Faulk,

I'm not normally active in politics especially not in a district that is not my own. As a conservative you may find Ms. Jackson-Lee's appearance on ABC's 20/20 (10:00pm 10/10) as appalling as I did. When discussing farm subsidies Ms. Jackson-Lee this exchange occurred :

Lee said farmers are grateful for the farm bill. She said they visit her office all the time, thanking her for allowing their family farm to survive.

But clothing and shelter are important, too. Why not subsidize them?

Lee's response? [threateningly] "Well I would say to you...you don't want to push us." http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/Vote2008/Story?id=6050559&page=3


Here is the actual video of the exchange that begins 7:15 into the video. Please take time to view her appalling arrogance yourself. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rTI9r4pUYh4


Wherever you stand on the issue of farm subsidies it's quite disgusting to suggest clothing manufacturers and homebuilders should be funded with taxpayer dollars. This in addition to her vote for the second pork laden version of the bailout shows how cavalier she is with your district's taxpayer dollars. I was also able to find the following on her Wikipedia page:


[Ms. Lee] also attracted controversy in 2003 by meeting with Syrian leader Bashar al-Assad and offering to sponsor a visit for the controversial leader to come to the United States.

The Weekly Standard has published criticism of her travel arrangements and her banning by Continental Airlines from flying with them after badgering airline staff and flight attendants. [6][7]

In her first two years in Congress, Jackson-Lee's staff reportedly had a 180 percent turnover rate, which was attributed by the Houston Press to overwork and bullying by the congresswoman. [8] Accordingly, House staffers unofficially voted her the "second meanest" member of the body as well as naming her "Biggest Windbag" and "Show Horse" in a 2006 Washingtonian article. [9]


She is quite the gem in your liberal district. While I'm unfortunately unable to financially aid your campaign I do hope you do what you can to hold Ms. Jackson-Lee accountable for her arrogance.

[Trigonx]

I just watched the youtubes! excellent excellent. or Amazing, just amazing.

must watch, I wish i told my parents to watch that when it aired live.

[muh_roads]

Stossel is the only good thing left on the MSM. I'm shocked he is still on the air.

Glenn Beck is a distant 2nd since he seems to be coming around, but nothing tops Stossel. Simply amazing work.

"Stupid in America" was another awesome piece of his I love to show people.

[Brassmouth]

Don't forget "Sick In America" and "Is America Number 1?"

[RSLudlum]

FYI, ABC already has the show up for sale in DVD format, $30

http://abcnewsstore.go.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/DSIProductDisplay?catalogId=11002&storeId=20051&productId=2024459&langId=-1&categoryId=100013

[TER]

is only part 1 on youtube?

[RSLudlum]

is only part 1 on youtube?

nah, it's the entire show split into 6parts

[kojirodensetsu]

John Stossel is awesome. :D

[MsDoodahs]

WOO HOOO!!!!

here it is in 6part YouTube

http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=stossel+%22politically+incorr ect+guide%22&search_sort=video_date_uploaded

Oh man that was FANTASTIC! Thank you so much!

If you don't already get the daily email from FEE, please consider signing up.

Go here and click on "sign up now" on the "In Brief" tab.

www.fee.org

Also, their monthly journal The Freeman: Ideas on Liberty is fantastic. Stossel writes for them...as does Walter Williams.

:)

[MRoCkEd]

Here's another Stossel Segment from a week ago
Why some people shouldn't vote:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A0C47Rlnc-8

[1000-points-of-fright]

The perfect follow up to this show and his "maybe you shouldn't vote" show last week would be his Ron Paul interview that never aired.

[Kludge]

http://thefreeturkey.com/?p=63

[ronpaulforprez2008]

Oh man that was FANTASTIC! Thank you so much!

While everyone here is busy backslapping themselves over this Stossel piece, I'd like to share a different perspective.

First, may I recommend that forum members make themselves familiar with the work by the Club of Rome (CoR) think tank called The First Global Revolution. An online PDF copy can be found here (http://www.archive.org/details/TheFirstGlobalRevolution), but I've found some differences between this online version and the original published version.

One of the arguments that the CoR makes is that in order to implement global fascist controls, the public must lose faith in nations, national governments and democracy. So, when I watched this Stossel segment, I see a major media network railing against our system of government, which creates a psychological reaction in viewers that includes hostility toward and lost confidence in our system of government.

Of course, much of the bureaucratic corruption in our government needs to be addressed and eliminated, that's a given. Checks and balances must be tightened (did you see the Mayor of New Orleans roll his eyes when he mentioned the need for checks and balances). Government should be reduced in size. All of these are valid points that most, if not all of us here support.

But I am extremely concerned that the underlying intention of this segment was to create an overreaction by viewers, in support of the CoR agenda. So, when one watches that material, try to dissect the motives of the media owners who are showing you this material before you develop your conclusions.

Always ask yourself, why is the Globalist Oligarch owner of this media outlet wanting me to see this material?

[Kludge]

Stossel didn't attack government, he attacked government intervention in the American economy. Many Americans have become so desensitized that his admittedly overly dramatic method is nearly required for any impact.

Besides, Stossel is a big supporter of the FSP. The media seeks ratings, not a global fascist regime coming beyond their years of existence to further regulate them.

[heavenlyboy34]

john stossel is awesome. :d

+9999 :d

[heavenlyboy34]

When Stossel interviews RP, RP says that a "strong military" is necessary to enforce law and order. Has he flip-flopped, considering his opposition to military intervention in other speeches?

[torchbearer]

When Stossel interviews RP, RP says that a "strong military" is necessary to enforce law and order. Has he flip-flopped, considering his opposition to military intervention in other speeches?

Ron has always been for a strong national defense... ie. a strong military.
Which means, keeping them here at home, for when we really need them.. and not wearing out our troops and equipment overseas in meaningless wars.

[MRoCkEd]

When Stossel interviews RP, RP says that a "strong military" is necessary to enforce law and order. Has he flip-flopped, considering his opposition to military intervention in other speeches?
the strongest military is one that is not spread so thinly around the world in unnecessary involvements

[maqsur]

Here is a link to a single video file of the whole 41 minutes...

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=6373296440526673285&ei=xlD6SIDkIIruqALaz7m7BA&q=stossel

[itsthepathocrats]

eom

[revolutionary8]

I can't find the thread started by Yongrel that has the John Stossel 20/20 special 2008 series.
However,
I can post the link.
http://thefreeturkey.com/?p=63
Thank Gawd for Stossel.
LOL
Wait, I found it.:D

Curious Bump.

[revolutionary8]

]The psychological impact of that segment was "government is the problem" with a viewer-ship unable to distinguish between a "Republican form of Government," as Ron Paul espouses and the US Constitution framed, and "Government." The end result is a public against government, which serves the elite's interests.[/B]




What an astonishingly naive comment. While media requires financial returns to enrich its owners while its operations continue, the media is clearly an instrument of the elite and is the single most essential "technique" for manipulating the mass man. Please start with this thread (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?t=163493) to begin your education into "Propaganda" and "Technique" as so eloquently articulated by Jacques Ellul, a French philosopher who is well read in elite circles.

Absoutely itsthe,
however, there are mixed signals, people in on good. Take Ron Paul. We cannot brand everyone ENEMIES. Stossel is not an ENEMY.
Are you?
Personally, I like a lot of what you say, but I am going to call out when I feel you or your ideal might be flailing. The strong shall survive, and we all know that "strong" is a relative term.