Ron Paul mentions a poor argument for McCain [RPH - EDIT]

[EndTheFed]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9_yjImzwuIU


Boy did I just step in it... :D

[Bruno]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9_yjImzwuIU


Boy did I just step in it... :D

he also said that it wasn't an endorsement

[Kotin]

why do you have to justify your vote for mccain so much?

[EndTheFed]

he also said that it wasn't an endorsement

I did notsay he saidit was an endorsement... but he IS saying there is a lesser of two evils wich is fought so hard against here on these forums..

[angelatc]

The campaign for liberty statement came later. He said vote third party, or don't vote.

You are free to vote for who you want to, but I wish you'd figure out that none of us here freaking care.

[torchbearer]

Who is Ron Paul voting for?
Not McCain or Obama.

Go away McCain trolls.
YOu are getting desperate coming here with you bullshit.
McCain buried himself when the state GOPs cheated the delegates out of their votes.

[dannno]

I did notsay he saidit was an endorsement... but he IS saying there is a lesser of two evils wich is fought so hard against here on these forums..

Ya and a month ago he said Obama was the lesser of two evils.

Wait until the drums of war propaganda starts coming in again, Obama will be the "lesser of two evils" once again.

[nbhadja]

I did notsay he saidit was an endorsement... but he IS saying there is a lesser of two evils wich is fought so hard against here on these forums..

Ron Paul also has said a million times that McCain is against everything he stands for.

Get lost troll and go support your pro war pro inflation liberal McCain elsewhere.

[Ozwest]

I love Dr. Paul.

He is the man.

[ronpaulhawaii]

Find the timecode point where he says anything about the lesser of two evils. If you cannot than you are just spewing distortions and propoganda.

[EndTheFed]

Who is Ron Paul voting for?
Not McCain or Obama.

Go away McCain trolls.
YOu are getting desperate coming here with you bullshit.
McCain buried himself when the state GOPs cheated the delegates out of their votes.


Are you tired.... cause your arguments sure are....

[brandon]

Fuck I'm so sick of this dude and TONES littering up the forums with this pro mccain bullshit. GO away please. I come to these boards to talk with like minded people. Not have more of the same bullshit shoved down my throat that I hear from the MSM everyday.

Where is truth warrior? Get in here and post your vote for nobody picture to make me feel better.

[EndTheFed]

Ya and a month ago he said Obama was the lesser of two evils.

Wait until the drums of war propaganda starts coming in again, Obama will be the lesser of two evils once again.

You MUST hav me confused with someone else.. i HAVE NEVER said obama was te lesser of 2 evils... I have NEVER bee for McCain...

I challenge you to find the damn thread....

[EndTheFed]

I love Dr. Paul.

He is the man.

Yep Me Too!!!!

[ronpaulhawaii]

You MUST hav me confused with someone else.. i HAVE NEVER said obama was te lesser of 2 evils... I have NEVER bee for McCain...

I challenge you to find the damn thread....

Your reading comprehension sucks

[EndTheFed]

Find the timecode point where he says anything about the lesser of two evils. If you cannot than you are just spewing distortions and propoganda.

I didalready... he did not say the words lesser of two evils... he DID express the same setimets by saying Obama would be a disaster and it would be better to have some opposition to a tr-fecta fo the dems...

the question is asked at 3:05

[ronpaulhawaii]

I didalready... he did not say the words lesser of two evils... he DID express the same setimets by saying Obama would be a disaster and it would be better to have some opposition to a tr-fecta fo the dems...

the question is asked at 3:05

Well then, your title is a lie...

[dannno]

You MUST hav me confused with someone else.. i HAVE NEVER said obama was te lesser of 2 evils... I have NEVER bee for McCain...

I challenge you to find the damn thread....


Geez.

Uhh, Ron Paul said that Obama was the lesser of two evils (probably more like 2 months ago), because he would do less damage with our foreign policy. If you want blood on your hands, vote McCain. If you want bloody socialism on your hands, vote Obama.

Now foreign policy is out of the spotlight so McCain is the lesser of two evils at the moment..

I don't know why he goes back and forth, I think he was making up for his prior transgression.

[torchbearer]

Are you tired.... cause your arguments sure are....

You are a troll. Go away.
There is no debate. Only your desperate attempts at distortion and propaganda.

The ban hammer should be soon to come.

[EndTheFed]

Well then, your title is a lie...

No it is not... that is what he is saying ... tat is what he is expressing...

If you want to be an idiot and say.. he did not say those words. it is ALL the same... that is what he is saying...

[brandon]

lmao at the new thread title

[Knightskye]

I did notsay he saidit was an endorsement... but he IS saying there is a lesser of two evils wich is fought so hard against here on these forums..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eEw0qKjP7hk

It's still evil, as explained by Dr. Paul and Ralph Nader in the video above.

[EndTheFed]

Geez.

Uhh, Ron Paul said that Obama was the lesser of two evils (probably more like 2 months ago), because he would do less damage with our foreign policy. If you want blood on your hands, vote McCain. If you want bloody socialism on your hands, vote Obama.

Now foreign policy is out of the spotlight so McCain is the lesser of two evils at the moment..

I don't know why he goes back and forth, I think he was making up for his prior transgression.


Got ya... sorry I mis read it... have a link for this?

[ronpaulhawaii]

title fixed

McCainiac and Obomba are tools, anyone voting for them becomes one as well

[libertarian4321]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9_yjImzwuIU


Boy did I just step in it... :D

Yes, you did, because you misrepresented what Ron Paul said (just like you did in the other threads where you made the same claim).

What Ron Paul actually said was "Even with all the shortcomings of John McCain, his strongest argument to be President is keeping Congress and the Presidency in separate hands- the American people are going to be better off if they are fighting a little bit instead of having no restraints whatsoever. Thats a poor reason to argue for McCain. Its a poor argument for McCain."

Despite your lies and misrepresentations, most of us still see McCain for the vile statist asshole that he is, and will NEVER vote for him.

[EndTheFed]

You are a troll. Go away.
There is no debate. Only your desperate attempts at distortion and propaganda.

The ban hammer should be soon to come.

Ahhh I see you are for freedom of speach mm nice...

[ronpaulhawaii]

You are free to spread lies, and I am free to correct them

[libertarian4321]

You are a troll. Go away.
There is no debate. Only your desperate attempts at distortion and propaganda.

The ban hammer should be soon to come.

The more EndtheFed talks, the more I feel like casting a vote for Obama just to spite this a-hole...

[EndTheFed]

title fixed

McCainiac and Obomba are tools, anyone voting for them becomes one as well

How lame you are... there was NO reason for that...

You are imposing on myfreedom of speach... RP would NOT approve

[ItsTime]

The more EndtheFed talks, the more I feel like casting a vote for Obama just to spite this a-hole...

:D

[torchbearer]

Ahhh I see you are for freedom of speach mm nice...

1st amendment restricts the government from restricting your speech, not a private forum owner and his site moderation.
I do understand you don't know anything about the constitution, but I'm sure many here can fill the ignorant void in your head.

[ronpaulhawaii]

How lame you are... there was NO reason for that...

You are imposing on myfreedom of speach... RP would NOT approve

Just like a McCainiac to not understand the Constitution

:rolleyes:

[EndTheFed]

lmao at the new thread title

What d you mean? do you approve of the new title or are you saying it should not have been changed?

[brandon]

It's funny how some of you talk about voting like it actually matters or makes a difference. lulz

[EndTheFed]

title fixed

McCainiac and Obomba are tools, anyone voting for them becomes one as well

You should NOT be a moderator...

[EndTheFed]

Yes, you did, because you misrepresented what Ron Paul said (just like you did in the other threads where you made the same claim).

What Ron Paul actually said was "Even with all the shortcomings of John McCain, his strongest argument to be President is keeping Congress and the Presidency in separate hands- the American people are going to be better off if they are fighting a little bit instead of having no restraints whatsoever. Thats a poor reason to argue for McCain. Its a poor argument for McCain."

Despite your lies and misrepresentations, most of us still see McCain for the vile statist asshole that he is, and will NEVER vote for him.

I did not mis represent him

[brandon]

You should NOT be a moderator...

You should NOT be a poster.

[ronpaulhawaii]

You should NOT be a moderator...

lulz

[EndTheFed]

You are free to spread lies, and I am free to correct them

I am NOT spreading lies...

[dannno]

Got ya... sorry I mis read it... have a link for this?

Well there is a youtube out there somewhere, it was on CNN Situation Room with Wolf Blitzer..

here's a summary:



Source: CNN

(CNN) — Even though Rep. Ron Paul has never officially ended his long shot presidential bid, he’s ready to weigh in on the three remaining major candidates for the White House.

In an interview on The Situation Room, Paul told Wolf Blitzer that endorsing Sen. John McCain, the Republican Party’s presumptive nominee, “would really confuse” his supporters “because they know we have a precise program and we have to defend that program.”

Having a Republican win the upcoming presidential election is “secondary” for Paul who is more interested in defending the Constitution, having the country go in what he considers the right direction, having a sound currency, and achieving balanced budgets. Paul parts ways with McCain over McCain’s support for the Iraq war, his approach to U.S. foreign policy in the Middle East and his willingness to spend federal dollars to support military operations in Iraq.

Instead, Paul favors Sen. Barack Obama because of positions on foreign policy. “But that’s doesn’t mean that’s an endorsement,” Paul quickly added.

[EndTheFed]

The more EndtheFed talks, the more I feel like casting a vote for Obama just to spite this a-hole...

Oh that really makes sense...

[torchbearer]

It's funny how some of you talk about voting like it actually matters or makes a difference. lulz

Either the election is already fixed, or it could matter if people pulled the lever for anyone by McBama.
To say it doesn't matter, concedes defeat.
If you are already defeated, why bother with the Ron Paul Revolution in the first place? It never really mattered.

[ronpaulhawaii]

I am NOT spreading lies...

I guess english is not your first language. Saying someone said something that they never said is a lie

[EndTheFed]

1st amendment restricts the government from restricting your speech, not a private forum owner and his site moderation.
I do understand you don't know anything about the constitution, but I'm sure many here can fill the ignorant void in your head.

So what makes you think I know nothing about the constitution...

Pretty STUPID assumption...

[EndTheFed]

Just like a McCainiac to not understand the Constitution

:rolleyes:

Another stupid assumption

[torchbearer]

The more EndtheFed talks, the more I feel like casting a vote for Obama just to spite this a-hole...

I'm about to accept the invite from the local obama office to canvass for him.
Hell I might do a two-for-one.
Vote Obama or Paul.

[Andrew-Austin]

Go ahead and vote for McCain EndTheFed, why do you need our agreement? Stop trolling the issue.

[EndTheFed]

lulz

What does lulz mean dont know that one...

[ronpaulhawaii]

So what makes you think I know nothing about the constitution...

Pretty STUPID assumption...

The fact that you think free speech is guaranteed on private property.

[torchbearer]

So what makes you think I know nothing about the constitution...

Pretty STUPID assumption...

YOu said I was against you having your freedom of speech because i said you should be banned for trolling this site.
That assumes your freedom of speech also includes you saying whatever you want on a private server. Which is false, and shows you ignorance.
And this isn't the first time your response to being called out for your lack of knowledge was equally retarded.

[ronpaulhawaii]

What does lulz mean dont know that one...

lulz is a sarcastic LOL

[libertarian4321]

I did not mis represent him

Yeah, you did, because you are a liar and a shill but everyone here already knows that.

You are truly a dishonorable person- so its no surprise you are a McCain shill.

Why are you here- shouldn't you be on Youtube masturbating to Sarah Palin videos?

[dannno]

Oh that really makes sense...

That sarcasm I can agree with.

Don't vote Obama just to balance out a RPF member's McCain vote, or anybody's McCain vote.. That's more votes for the establishment. Visa versa or whatever..

You only have one vote, give it to someone you believe in.. We are in a crisis here, and a vote for the establishment is a vote for the establishment.

[EndTheFed]

I guess english is not your first language. Saying someone said something that they never said is a lie

Ever heard of the word paraphrase? that is an english word...

[libertarian4321]

YOu said I was against you having your freedom of speech because i said you should be banned for trolling this site.
That assumes your freedom of speech also includes you saying whatever you want on a private server. Which is false, and shows you ignorance.
And this isn't the first time your response to being called out for your lack of knowledge was equally retarded.

EndtheFed is a troll, but he's not a particularly bright or well educated troll.

He's doing his best, lol.

[EndTheFed]

I'm about to accept the invite from the local obama office to canvass for him.
Hell I might do a two-for-one.
Vote Obama or Paul.

Hey you could join ACORN... vote early.. vote often...

[Kotin]

jeez..


I thought this was ron paul forums..

[ronpaulhawaii]

Ever heard of the word paraphrase? that is an english word...

Yes, I have. When an honest writer paraphrases, they indicate that is what they have done

[torchbearer]

Hey you could join ACORN... vote early.. vote often...

You could get a life and go here: http://johnmccainforum.com/forum/index.php
You'd fit in very well. :D

[EndTheFed]

YOu said I was against you having your freedom of speech because i said you should be banned for trolling this site.
That assumes your freedom of speech also includes you saying whatever you want on a private server. Which is false, and shows you ignorance.
And this isn't the first time your response to being called out for your lack of knowledge was equally retarded.

Would you like meto leave... I would say we probably agree on 80-90% of liberty issues... Do you notwant me in your "private" movement...

Would you rather me go against the "revolution"

Is that what you would like?

[Ben2008]

Ya and a month ago he said Obama was the lesser of two evils.

Wait until the drums of war propaganda starts coming in again, Obama will be the "lesser of two evils" once again.


Whoever is the lesser of two evils can be outweighed by the benefit of having different parties controlled the Legislative and Executive branch. The same party controlling both is very dangerous.

[EndTheFed]

Yeah, you did, because you are a liar and a shill but everyone here already knows that.

You are truly a dishonorable person- so its no surprise you are a McCain shill.

Why are you here- shouldn't you be on Youtube masturbating to Sarah Palin videos?

How old are you? 10?

[Kotin]

Whoever is the lesser of two evils can be outweighed by the benefit of having different parties controlled the Legislative and Executive branch. The same party controlling both is very dangerous.

I will never vote McCain!


but I completely agree nonetheless.

[torchbearer]

Would you like meto leave... I would say we probably agree on 80-90% of liberty issues... Do you notwant me in your "private" movement...

Would you rather me go against the "revolution"

Is that what you would like?

Yes, ignorant McCain shills need to leave.
You aren't a very good troll.
At least tones understands some fundamentals. You talk like a neocon. Through and through.

[EndTheFed]

Yes, I have. When an honest writer paraphrases, they indicate that is what they have done

There wasnt enough room in the title... :)

[ronpaulhawaii]

Would you like meto leave... I would say we probably agree on 80-90% of liberty issues... Do you notwant me in your "private" movement...

Would you rather me go against the "revolution"

Is that what you would like?

If you would "go against" the liberty movement because of a disagreement on a forum... well I hardly know what to say

[ClockwiseSpark]

Would you rather me go against the "revolution"



That's just what you're doing. You need no encouragement from us.


BTW

Does the McCain campaign pay you for post count or is there another system in place?

[jrskblx125]

im gonna go out on a limb here and say that endthefed, while possibly a citizen, most certainly does not speak english as a first language... and if he/she denies that well then remind me not to send my kids to that school. mccain= fucktard... edumucate yourself.

[libertarian4321]

How old are you? 10?

You've used that line about 5 times over the past couple of days. It was weak then, its weak now.

And my previous statement stands.

You are a dishonest McCain shill (is there any other kind?) and completely lacking in credibility.

Why are you here? Shouldn't you be out in the street yelling "Obama is a terrorist" or burning a cross or something?

[ronpaulhawaii]

There wasnt enough room in the title... :)

Bull... I thought of a few ways you could have worded it, before landing on the current title ;)

[tonesforjonesbones]

Well...the Ron Paul movement is supposed to be for freedom of speech. If this is a Ron Paul forum and you ban someone who doesn't share your view...then you have SINNED against RON PAUL. Either you believe in freedom of speech or you don't...it can't be that you Pick and choose what speech is free due to whether you agree with it or not. If you do that...then you reallly don't believe in freedom of speech.

Point is...endthefed and I are Ron Paul supporters who are exercising our right to vote for who we think is best. I think this forum has managed to run off all the conservative / republican Ron Paul supporters. Tones and endthefed are about the only two left and you want to ban us. You aren't doing so well keeping your Liberty Movement together are ya? Pretty soon you'll have a couple of people on here patting each other on the back.

I'm just going to say this...at my peril. C$L just recently watered down the Liberty movement by purging 110,000 people from their website. So what? Maybe there were some who were bogus...but what about all the others they will lose? That was a stupid thing to do, quite frankly and I wonder if they are really concerned about keeping this movement together at all. Endorsing 4 people shattered this movement. Endorsing Chuck Baldwin ran off your Barr folks. WHAT THE HELL ARE THEY DOING???? I consider it mass chaos. TONES (and sad)

[EndTheFed]

If you would "go against" the liberty movement because of a disagreement on a forum... well I hardly know what to say

No...not at all I was being sarcastic to make a point...

Pointng out the absurd by being absurd..

If you will look at my posts... The majority of my post have a ongoing theme.

I have been on this forum for quite a while.. I pushed for RP and voted for him.. I was VERY involved with my meetup group... My wife is the RP precint captain.

I started a thread about this movement needs to grow up. It needs to ue wisdom along with its knowledge. Weneed to not throw snoballs at people..

We need to grow up and learn how to win people to help it grow...

In that thread it came up that I was voting McCain (Not on purpose BTW) and I got plastered with ALL kinds of crap because I hada different opinion. I have been meligned cursed called a troll called a shill and NONE of this is tru..
at this point I am relly getting dscusted with the maturity level of this group..

[Ozwest]

Guess why a Libertarian will never be elected President, and why the powers that be, rip you to shreds every time?

[ronpaulhawaii]

Hey TONES, say someone goes into your house praising pedophilia, what would you do?

[libertarian4321]

im gonna go out on a limb here and say that endthefed, while possibly a citizen, most certainly does not speak english as a first language... and if he/she denies that well then remind me not to send my kids to that school. mccain= fucktard... edumucate yourself.

I think Endthefed is American- but he represents the least intelligent and least educated among us.

Unfortunately, there are lots of people like Endthefed in this country- they are the ones who go to Palin rallies and yell "KILL OBAMA."

[torchbearer]

Well...the Ron Paul movement is supposed to be for freedom of speech. If this is a Ron Paul forum and you ban someone who doesn't share your view...then you have SINNED against RON PAUL. Either you believe in freedom of speech or you don't...it can't be that you Pick and choose what speech is free due to whether you agree with it or not. If you do that...then you reallly don't believe in freedom of speech.

Point is...endthefed and I are Ron Paul supporters who are exercising our right to vote for who we think is best. I think this forum has managed to run off all the conservative / republican Ron Paul supporters. Tones and endthefed are about the only two left and you want to ban us. You aren't doing so well keeping your Liberty Movement together are ya? Pretty soon you'll have a couple of people on here patting each other on the back.

I'm just going to say this...at my peril. C$L just recently watered down the Liberty movement by purging 110,000 people from their website. So what? Maybe there were some who were bogus...but what about all the others they will lose? That was a stupid thing to do, quite frankly and I wonder if they are really concerned about keeping this movement together at all. Endorsing 4 people shattered this movement. Endorsing Chuck Baldwin ran off your Barr folks. WHAT THE HELL ARE THEY DOING???? I consider it mass chaos. TONES (and sad)

Sometimes, a troll is that obvious.
Do you spend everyone of your post pushing McCain BS?
Or do you just voice your opinion when its brought up?
Look at the trolls post history, thread history. etc. One purpose.

Same goes for Ben2008.

Neither are here for the republic or constitution. Just to shill for McCain.
They can do that at johnmccainforum.com all day long. It matters not to me.
Let them speak all day about it... over there, where the topic of the forum is JOHN MCCAIN.

[torchbearer]

Guess why a Libertarian will never be elected President, and why the powers that be, rip you to shreds every time?

Because we don't ban asshats because someone might find it offensive?

[EndTheFed]

You've used that line about 5 times over the past couple of days. It was weak then, its weak now.

And my previous statement stands.

You are a dishonest McCain shill (is there any other kind?) and completely lacking in credibility.

Why are you here? Shouldn't you be out in the street yelling "Obama is a terrorist" or burning a cross or something?

Well then maybe you need to grow up and quit making childish arguiments and name calling...

[ronpaulhawaii]

Sometimes, a troll is that obvious.
Do you spend everyone of your post pushing McCain BS?
Or do you just voice your opinion when its brought up?
Look at the trolls post history, thread history. etc. One purpose.

Same goes for Ben2008.

Neither are here for the republic or constitution. Just to shill for McCain.
They can do that at johnmccainforum.com all day long. It matters not to me.
Let them speak all day about it... over there, where the topic of the forum is JOHN MCCAIN.

Hmmm... Maybe I should go over there and learn about the ways of a troll. Whats it like there? have you ever been?

[EndTheFed]

Bull... I thought of a few ways you could have worded it, before landing on the current title ;)

Well accordng to people here i too damn stupid or illiterate t know that...

Please make allowances for the retard...

[torchbearer]

Hmmm... Maybe I should go over there and learn about the ways of a troll. Whats it like there? have you ever been?

looked it over several months ago. very neoconnish.
not as fun as fredthompsonforum.com, but maybe the novelty is wearing off.

[Ozwest]

Because we don't ban asshats because someone might find it offensive?

No, cause you tear strips off each other,

and end up being called " asshats."

[torchbearer]

Well accordng to people here i too damn stupid or illiterate t know that...

Please make allowances for the retard...

Now you sound like Obama.

[torchbearer]

No, cause you tear strips off each other,

and end up being called " asshats."

Do you wanna go round and round on this one?
Because you rip people on here all day long.

[acptulsa]

Well accordng to people here i too damn stupid or illiterate t know that...

Please make allowances for the retard...

Good idea.

RPH, please give him my post count. Then maybe he'll stop spamming the forum.


Tell you what, EndTheFed, I'll make a deal with you. I'll hold my nose and vote for him if you prove beyond a reasonable doubt that his daddy didn't fix that 1967 court martial...

http://tampabayonline.net/gifs/reports/carrier/fire.jpg

[libertarian4321]

If you will look at my posts... The majority of my post have a ongoing theme.



Yeah, all your posts are about lying and shilling for McCain.


In that thread it came up that I was voting McCain (Not on purpose BTW) and I got plastered with ALL kinds of crap because I hada different opinion. I have been meligned cursed called a troll called a shill and NONE of this is tru..
at this point I am relly getting dscusted with the maturity level of this group..

Most of the people on this forum are good, decent people.

They will call you on your lies and BS.

They will not put up with your shilling for McCain.

They won't put up with your thinly veiled racism.

Here's a hint- if you don't want to treated like an asshole, STOP ACTING LIKE AN ASSHOLE!

If you can't stop, you will keep getting "meligned [sic]" (FYI, its "maligned", Sparky). Maybe you'd feel more comfortable with people who agree with you.

You might want to try the John McCain forums or maybe Stormfront.org .

[EndTheFed]

I think Endthefed is American- but he represents the least intelligent and least educated among us.

Unfortunately, there are lots of people like Endthefed in this country- they are the ones who go to Palin rallies and yell "KILL OBAMA."

This is a bogus thing that did nt happen... they have tried to track this down and CAN NOT find 1 person who heard this except the reporter that said it...

[EndTheFed]

Hey TONES, say someone goes into your house praising pedophilia, what would you do?

I think this is quite a bit different than that.

[tonesforjonesbones]

Well Torch, there was a time when I considered both McCain and Obama the same, but due to new information, I have become afraid of Obama ..ACORN, the crazy media who are always left leaning, the fallout due to the press conference with Ron Paul due to the fighting of the C$L staff and Barr's campaign people, this business with Obama and William ayers who belonged to the communist party, Ayers affiliation with the Black Panthers, all communist party members, the fear that the democrats will win both branches of government and appoint liberal justices (no checks and balances). If this had been a normal election cycle, I would have voted 3rd party...but now, I MUST support the GOP...we have GOT to have checks and balances in washington. That's why I'm so concerned. I consider getting McCain in there buying us some time to get more people on our team for 2012..I fear if Obama wins...we will be dead in the water. How will Ron Paul have ANY power at all as a republican if the democrats sweep? We will have NO leverage whatsoever...how old will Ron Paul be in 8 years??? Dear God...please think. (he'll be 81 and probably retired if alive)

[Ozwest]

Do you wanna go round and round on this one?
Because you rip people on here all day long.

I ain't "ripping you," and I'll stand toe to toe with you .

That is not my objective.

[Kotin]

I think Endthefed is American- but he represents the least intelligent and least educated among us.

Unfortunately, there are lots of people like Endthefed in this country- they are the ones who go to Palin rallies and yell "KILL OBAMA."

dude its not cool to attack someone's intelligence for not agreeing with you.

you don't even know him.

[torchbearer]

Well Torch, there was a time when I considered both McCain and Obama the same, but due to new information, I have become afraid of Obama ..ACORN, the crazy media who are always left leaning, the fallout due to the press conference with Ron Paul due to the fighting of the C$L staff and Barr's campaign people, this business with Obama and William ayers who belonged to the communist party, Ayers affiliation with the Black Panthers, all communist party members, the fear that the democrats will win both branches of government and appoint liberal justices (no checks and balances). If this had been a normal election cycle, I would have voted 3rd party...but now, I MUST support the GOP...we have GOT to have checks and balances in washington. That's why I'm so concerned. I consider getting McCain in there buying us some time to get more people on our team for 2012..I fear if Obama wins...we will be dead in the water. How will Ron Paul have ANY power at all as a republican if the democrats sweep? We will have NO leverage whatsoever...how old will Ron Paul be in 8 years??? Dear God...please think. (he'll be 81 and probably retired if alive)

Then please, vote against the constitution and the people who support it. That is the most productive thing you can do.

[EndTheFed]

Sometimes, a troll is that obvious.
Do you spend everyone of your post pushing McCain BS?
Or do you just voice your opinion when its brought up?
Look at the trolls post history, thread history. etc. One purpose.

Same goes for Ben2008.

Neither are here for the republic or constitution. Just to shill for McCain.
They can do that at johnmccainforum.com all day long. It matters not to me.
Let them speak all day about it... over there, where the topic of the forum is JOHN MCCAIN.

Did you miss all my posts about the movement needs to GROW UP and use wisdom with their knowledge?

[ronpaulhawaii]

Well accordng to people here i too damn stupid or illiterate t know that...

Please make allowances for the retard...

Now going for the pity play I see :rolleyes:


I think this is quite a bit different than that.

Of course you do :rolleyes:

[torchbearer]

I ain't "ripping you," and I'll stand toe to toe with you .

That is not my objective.

I didn't say you were ripping me, but you call out dumbasses all day long.
I'm doing the same.

[EndTheFed]

Because we don't ban asshats because someone might find it offensive?

Yea... you just edit/modify what they say to your liking...

[libertarian4321]

dude its not cool to attack someone's intelligence for not agreeing with you.

you don't even know him.

I was attacking his lack of education and intelligence because of his obvious lack of intelligence and education, not because of "disagreements."

[torchbearer]

Yea... you just edit/modify what they say to your liking...

I don't edit anything.
If I was a mod, this thread would have been locked before it started, and you'd be IP banned.

[tonesforjonesbones]

I don't find it intelligent to play the race card. The race card is a last resort comment. tones

[libertarian4321]

I'm about to accept the invite from the local obama office to canvass for him.
Hell I might do a two-for-one.
Vote Obama or Paul.

LOL.

Well, I'm not going to go that far, but if EndtheFed is voting for McCain, I'll consider voting for Obama just to balance out his evil act...

[torchbearer]

I don't find it intelligent to play the race card. The race card is a last resort comment. tones

race card is last resort? it should be a non factor. :mad:

[ronpaulhawaii]

Yea... you just edit/modify what they say to your liking...

When "they" post provocative lies, it is in the best interest of the forum to correct the lie

[Ozwest]

I didn't say you were ripping me, but you call out dumbasses all day long.
I'm doing the same.

Fair call.

But...

Face it. Libertarians nit pick each other to death!

It is a shame.

The most informed are sidelined by the media and castigated.

[torchbearer]

Fair call.

But...

Face it. Libertarians nit pick each other to death!

It is a shame.

The most informed are sidelined by the media and castigated.

We work well together in Louisiana.
We accept our difference of opinions and get down to business.

This forum, everytime a major event is approaching like a debate, a money bomb, a rally, an election... get overrun by trolls.
We shouldn't tolerate the crap. It is very obvious to anyone who has been here awhile.

[EndTheFed]

Now going for the pity play I see :rolleyes:


Again pointing out the absurdity with absurdity




Of course you do :rolleyes:


yes.. of course I do... one has to do with a difference of opinion the other is against the law... are you the LAW here?

[EndTheFed]

I was attacking his lack of education and intelligence because of his obvious lack of intelligence and education, not because of "disagreements."

I asked you several times for your MENSA credentials...

Where are they smart guy...

[torchbearer]

Can we get a refresher course on the ignore list function and where it is on the updated forum software?

[EndTheFed]

LOL.

Well, I'm not going to go that far, but if EndtheFed is voting for McCain, I'll consider voting for Obama just to balance out his evil act...

It only counts if you are in my state... :(

[torchbearer]

Can we get a refresher course on the ignore list function and where it is on the updated forum software?

Ok, I found it.
Click on the persons name.
Go to their Public profile.

Look under their name in the public profile and click on User List.
Click on Ignore List, then add.

Think of it as a personal ban hammer. Cleans up the threads nicely too.

[EndTheFed]

race card is last resort? it should be a non factor. :mad:

You are the only one here making race accusations...
I havent and that doesn't even enter in to my point.. no matter what you say..

[acptulsa]

It only counts if you are in my state... :(

No need to ask. Anyone who names themselves end the Fed yet advocates day and night full-time to vote for McCain is obviously a resident of the state of confusion.

Hey, ETF. You've been spamming harder since I brought up the U.S.S. Forrestal. That part of your orders?

[Ozwest]

We work well together in Louisiana.
We accept our difference of opinions and get down to business.

This forum, everytime a major event is approaching like a debate, a money bomb, a rally, an election... get overrun by trolls.
We shouldn't tolerate the crap. It is very obvious to anyone who has been here awhile.

Get me some of that catfish!

[torchbearer]

Get me some of that catfish!

Not a bad idea.... will it still be good frozen, and how would i ship it?
Though I've got enough Gumbo to last a week.
I need to get some beer.

[EndTheFed]

When "they" post provocative lies, it is in the best interest of the forum to correct the lie

What I wrote was NOT a provocative lie... that is YOUR opinion to me I was parapfrasing what he said... and I still believe that is the point he was making in that clip..

An HONEST difference of opinion does not constitute a lie...


How did this modification HELP the forum...?

It was blatant censorship.. which is why I think you need more maturity to be a moderator..

[EndTheFed]

We work well together in Louisiana.
We accept our difference of opinions and get down to business.

This forum, everytime a major event is approaching like a debate, a money bomb, a rally, an election... get overrun by trolls.
We shouldn't tolerate the crap. It is very obvious to anyone who has been here awhile.


I have been here a long time... i am not a troll.

[EndTheFed]

Ok, I found it.
Click on the persons name.
Go to their Public profile.

Look under their name in the public profile and click on User List.
Click on Ignore List, then add.

Think of it as a personal ban hammer. Cleans up the threads nicely too.

Mmmm more censorship...Man that is the RP way isnt it...

[tonesforjonesbones]

Is this ship sinking?? :confused:

[Andrew-Austin]

Those danged fascist moderators, trying to snub out the John McCain revolution.

[acptulsa]

I have been herea long time... i am not a troll.

Then stop spamming like one. Or at least stop ignoring anyone you think you can't pwn and responding repeatedly to the others so the more probing questions are more likely to be overlooked.

Did it ever occur to you it would serve your cause better to state your case and then stfu?

[acptulsa]

Is this ship sinking?? :confused:

The Forrestal didn't, despite a certain bratty, insanely reckless young son of an admiral. The U.S.S. McCain for President sure as hell is.

[Ozwest]

Not a bad idea.... will it still be good frozen, and how would i ship it?
Though I've got enough Gumbo to last a week.
I need to get some beer.


Your on...

I'll trade you two crayfish (lobster) tails for a catfish feed for two (Cajun seasoned).

Ha Ha ,,, Could cost a fortune.

[torchbearer]

Your on...

I'll trade you two crayfish (lobster) tails for a catfish feed for two (Cajun seasoned).

Ha Ha ,,, Could cost a fortune.

Who ships frozen goods on small quantity across the pacific?

[paulitics]

This interview was great. Ron Paul was hitting on all cylanders in this one. I wonder why the media shift all of a sudden. Its not just one network, its all of them giving RP, Schiff, etc plenty of time to express their views.

[torchbearer]

Your on...

I'll trade you two crayfish (lobster) tails for a catfish feed for two (Cajun seasoned).

Ha Ha ,,, Could cost a fortune.

I think a trip to perth when I get the money would be even better.
Fresh lobster would be great!
It looks like a beautiful place in photos.

And of course, if you ever sneak over the border into the U.S., you can always hide at my place. Free cajun food.

[EndTheFed]

Is this ship sinking?? :confused:

Yep... I think so.... I'm close to the end... :(

Not much hope here... They have all my posts. Aside from the McCain stuff which ALL revovles around a difference of opinion on one issue, they continue to make the false accusation of troll, shill, retard, stupid etc etc....

I think I will start my own website (i am a web developer) that discusses this stuff and how the C4L and RP movement needs to grow up in order to grow....

At least there I would not be censored...

:)

I have all but begged people to be tolorant and to get some maturity and show some of the class that their "leader" shows when people differ with him. but they don't seem to be able too...


Thanks tones...

[tonesforjonesbones]

endthefed...here's my email please email me.

jazzloversinc@yahoo.com

tones

[Ozwest]

Who ships frozen goods on small quantity across the pacific?

Each fillet was going to have a one ounce bar of gold up its backside.

Guess you busted us...:cool:

[EndTheFed]

Then stop spamming like one. Or at least stop ignoring anyone you think you can't pwn and responding repeatedly to the others so the more probing questions are more likely to be overlooked.

Did it ever occur to you it would serve your cause better to state your case and then stfu?

Which came first... the chicken... or the egg...?

[torchbearer]

Each fillet was going to have a one ounce bar of gold up its backside.

Guess you busted us...:cool:

I can think of better ways of smugglin' gold. :D

[brandon]

Aside from the McCain stuff which ALL revovles around a difference of opinion on one issue



One issue?? ONE ISSUE?? What issue would this be?

I can say with almost complete certainty that if McCain has an opinion on an issue, I disagree with him.


I have all but begged people to be tolorant and to get some maturity and show some of the class that their "leader" shows when peole differ with him. but theydon't seem to be able too...


Choke on a dick and die. ;)

[tonesforjonesbones]

endthefed...we are among Obama supporters..i am now convinced 100%. tones

[libertarian4321]

I asked you several time for your MENSA credentials...

Where are they smart guy...

I never joined MENSA (most intelligent people don't), but I'm more than qualified.

Frankly, MENSA is hardly exclusive- 6,000,000 Americans are theoretically eligible, but in actuality, more than 6,000,000 Americans could qualify for membership because over the years, they have allowed many "intelligence tests" to be used for proof of intellignence, including some that were not intelligence tests at all (e.g. SAT scores- the SAT is NOT an intelligence test, its primarily a test of knowledge). All it requires is being in the top 2% (an IQ of 132 or above using the most common scale) on any "approved" test.

Worldwide MENSA membership is about 100,000 members, meaning that only about 0.02% of eligible members actually join.

I would bet that there are a lot of people on these forums are MENSA eligible (and no, I wasn't referring to you).

I know, this doesn't prove that I'm eligible- the only way I can do that is take an IQ test - tell you what, put up $10,000 and I'll do the same- if I take the test and qualify, I get all the money, if not, you do. What do you say?

Make sure its money you can afford to lose, because I could pass the MENSA membership test even if I was drunk.

And yes, I know, this post makes me sound like an a-hole braggart. Sorry about that, but he brought it up.

[brandon]

endthefed...we are among Obama supporters..i am now convinced 100%. tones

You have to be one of the dumbest people I have ever come across in my life. Even considering Joseph the Libertarian.

Although I must say, your logic is almost exactly the same as his.

[Andrew-Austin]

endthefed...we are among Obama supporters..i am now convinced 100%. tones

Your among people who don't feel like beating a dead horse, at the mere whim of a couple drama queens.

I guess me saying that is proof I'm an Obama supporter huh.

[libertarian4321]

Your on...

I'll trade you two crayfish (lobster) tails for a catfish feed for two (Cajun seasoned).

Ha Ha ,,, Could cost a fortune.

Umm, Cajun catfish...

[Ozwest]

I think a trip to perth when I get the money would be even better.
Fresh lobster would be great!
It looks like a beautiful place in photos.

And of course, if you ever sneak over the border into the U.S., you can always hide at my place. Free cajun food.

I'm in Bunbury, 2 hours south of Perth.

Magnificent. Fine ladies... Unreal beaches.

I'll show you how to party, like a Cajun should!

[georgiaboy]

It's obvious from watching the CNN spot that Ron Paul was not saying that one should vote for John McCain. He did say that Democrats in the presidency, House, and Senate would be a disaster, and probably the best argument the McCain folks had at this time was checks and balances, and he did hasten to add that this was a very weak argument.

Why would he say this is a very weak argument? Because John McCain, though he is on the other team, is still very liberal, and crosses the aisle like a widower in a grocery store. Less we forget, some of McCain's closest allies are Kennedy, Feingold, and Lieberman.

For this to be Ron Paul's opinion of the best argument McCain has, knowing what he knows of McCain's policies, speaks not well, but poorly, of voting for McCain.

[libertarian4321]

Those danged fascist moderators, trying to snub out the John McCain revolution.

The John McCain Revolution was in 1776. He was there...

[torchbearer]

I'm in Bunbury, 2 hours south of Perth.

Magnificent. Fine ladies... Unreal beaches.

I'll show you how to party, like a Cajun should!

From the sounds of it, it may be an "extended vacation of several months" or until the aussie government kicks me out for lack of visa. :cool:

[Mini-Me]

Go ahead and vote for McCain EndTheFed, why do you need our agreement? Stop trolling the issue.

This post was worth repeating. Actually, let me repeat it louder:

Go ahead and vote for McCain EndTheFed, why do you need our agreement? Stop trolling the issue.

EndTheFed, you are not accomplishing anything by continually pushing McCain here. Not only has everyone already made up their minds who to vote for, but Ron Paul Forums is not the place to push McCain on people. It would be one thing if you just shared your opinions in the middle of ongoing discussions, but instead, you keep creating pro-McCain thread after pro-McCain thread, and it's just not welcome here. When you flood the forum with distracting threads entirely counter to the purpose of the forum, that's not called free speech - that's called being a nuisance on someone's private property. Seriously, how many posts have you made here that aren't related to trolling for McCain or ripping on Obama for the purpose of trolling for McCain? It looks like about 600 of your 749 posts have been all about pushing McCain on the rest of us! You already crossed the line LONG ago from being a Ron Paul supporter who wants to "bring tolerance" to the board to being a McCain supporter who wants free reign to make Ron Paul Forums his own personal playground.

I'm not calling for you to be banned - at least not yet - but for the love of the Flying Spaghetti Monster, please drop the issue! You and tones are voting for McCain, Hamadeh's mom is voting for Obama, and most of the rest of us want nothing to do with either. We get it...now give it a rest. Tones, you may make a higher percentage of posts that aren't pro-McCain or Obama-bashing, but your ridiculous exaggerations - half the time in all caps - about everyone here being "liberal loons" and "Obama supporters" put you right up with him on the annoying scale. You need to give it a rest as well. It's gotten old.

[acptulsa]

endthefed...we are among Obama supporters..i am now convinced 100%. tones

I hope you never have to deal with a sound board or a lighting board at some auditorium or anything like that. Because given your complete inability to understand that there might just be more than two options, I doubt you could ever handle anything but a normal light switch. A dimmer might just be too much for you.

[libertarian4321]

It's obvious from watching the CNN spot that Ron Paul was not saying that one should vote for John McCain. He did say that Democrats in the presidency, House, and Senate would be a disaster, and probably the best argument the McCain folks had at this time was checks and balances, and he did hasten to add that this was a very weak argument.

Why would he say this is a very weak argument? Because John McCain, though he is on the other team, is still very liberal, and crosses the aisle like a widower in a grocery store. Less we forget, some of McCain's closest allies are Kennedy, Feingold, and Lieberman.

For this to be Ron Paul's opinion of the best argument McCain has, knowing what he knows of McCain's policies, speaks not well, but poorly, of voting for McCain.

Exactly. Ron Paul most certainly was not telling us to vote for McCain.

[brandon]

A dimmer might just be too much for you.

rofl :D

[Ozwest]

I'm easy going.

If you are heading this way, PM me and we'll party.

In 12 months I'm moving to Queensland, and then maybe New Zealand for awhile.

If you do come out to W.A. Bali is a 300.00 round trip away.

[libertarian4321]

I hope you never have to deal with a sound board or a lighting board at some auditorium or anything like that. Because given your complete inability to understand that there might just be more than two options, I doubt you could ever handle anything but a normal light switch. A dimmer might just be too much for you.

LOL- I only hope if he does ever work with lighting, its at a McCain rally. McCain would be bathed in darkness (it would mirror the darkness in McCain's soul).

Actually, that might help McCain look better...

[georgiaboy]

This close to election day, it should come as no surprise that the McCain supporters are stepping up the thread and post count.

The desperation in their attempts ("OBAMA IS A COMMUNIST!!")

is palpable.

Expect the pro McCain threads to become more intense and constantly bumped, along with the anti-Obama threads.

It's at least a little flattering to know that some have figured out where to find conservatives on the web.

It's just disappointing that they haven't figured out what conservatives do.

[torchbearer]

I'm easy going.

If you are heading this way, PM me and we'll party.

In 12 months I'm moving to Queensland, and then maybe New Zealand for awhile.

If you do come out to W.A. Bali is a 300.00 round trip away.

300! what!!!!????
Jeez. I was thinking it be at least $1500.

[NewEnd]

He did not call McCain the lesser of two evils.

He said McCains best argument would be to say that gridlock is needed.

[libertarian4321]

I know how to shut EndtheFed up.

For every "vote for McCain" post he makes in the next 3 days, I will send $25 to Barack Obama's campaign.

And yes, I mean it!

[Mini-Me]

I know how to shut EndtheFed up.

For every "vote for McCain" post he makes in the next 3 days, I will send $25 to Barack Obama's campaign.

And yes, I mean it!

Who are you, Warren Buffet? That's a lot of money!

[ClockwiseSpark]

I know how to shut EndtheFed up.

For every "vote for McCain" post he makes in the next 3 days, I will send $25 to Barack Obama's campaign.

And yes, I mean it!

lol! :D

[tonesforjonesbones]

I am a musician and work with midi all the time..and pa gear..so stick it where the sun don't shine . AND I am proficient at several instruments as well as the voice. tones

[libertarian4321]

Who are you, Warren Buffet? That's a lot of money!

Well, up to $2,300. I don't want to break any laws :)

[Ozwest]

300! what!!!!????
Jeez. I was thinking it be at least $1500.

No. Look at a map.

1500.00 in Bali will buy a 5 star hotel for two weeks including round trip flight.

Might stretch it to 3 weeks on those Ameros. :D

[EndTheFed]

One issue?? ONE ISSUE?? What issue would this be?

I can say with almost complete certainty that if McCain has an opinion on an issue, I disagree with him.
Choke on a dick and die. ;)

No I was saying my issue that I have a difference with people here is voting fo mccain...

We agree on most all that has to do with liberty.. but yall can't seperate the two..

[EndTheFed]

endthefed...we are among Obama supporters..i am now convinced 100%. tones

:D and :(

[torchbearer]

No. Look at a map.

1500.00 in Bali will buy a 5 star hotel for two weeks including round trip flight.

Might stretch it to 3 weeks on those Ameros. :D

http://www.virtual-cozumel.com/images/country/bali.jpg

Reminds me of Jamiaca but with a lot less trash and poverty.

[Andrew-Austin]

No I was saying my issue that I have a difference with people here is voting fo mccain...

We agree on most all that has to do with liberty.. but yall can't seperate the two..

We disagree with the one rational that has promted you to vote for McCain, its personally not excuse enough for me to vote for him. And its really just theory, the supreme court judges McCain would push might be just as horrendous as the ones Obama would support. Whos to say the constitution won't become completely null and void under either one of them, its pretty ignored already.

[Ozwest]

http://lloydi.com/travel-writing/crete/images/bali-beach.jpg

Reminds me of Jamiaca but with a lot less trash and poverty.

Balinese women are beautiful.

[moostraks]

Well...the Ron Paul movement is supposed to be for freedom of speech. If this is a Ron Paul forum and you ban someone who doesn't share your view...then you have SINNED against RON PAUL.

Man, this is a bizarre response. When did Ron Paul become a religion? Poor taste in verbage and I think the good DR. would be uncomfortable with the analogy...

[Ozwest]

http://www.virtual-cozumel.com/images/country/bali.jpg

Reminds me of Jamiaca but with a lot less trash and poverty.

Us West Australians are like second citizens of Bali.

We'll get you sorted.

[EndTheFed]

I never joined MENSA (most intelligent people don't), but I'm more than qualified.

Frankly, MENSA is hardly exclusive- 6,000,000 Americans are theoretically eligible, but in actuality, more than 6,000,000 Americans could qualify for membership because over the years, they have allowed many "intelligence tests" to be used for proof of intellignence, including some that were not intelligence tests at all (e.g. SAT scores- the SAT is NOT an intelligence test, its primarily a test of knowledge). All it requires is being in the top 2% (an IQ of 132 or above using the most common scale) on any "approved" test.

Worldwide MENSA membership is about 100,000 members, meaning that only about 0.02% of eligible members actually join.

I would bet that there are a lot of people on these forums are MENSA eligible (and no, I wasn't referring to you).

I know, this doesn't prove that I'm eligible- the only way I can do that is take an IQ test - tell you what, put up $10,000 and I'll do the same- if I take the test and qualify, I get all the money, if not, you do. What do you say?

Make sure its money you can afford to lose, because I could pass the MENSA membership test even if I was drunk.

And yes, I know, this post makes me sound like an a-hole braggart. Sorry about that, but he brought it up.


No.. I was just basing my opinion on your post's logic and reasoning. Maybe I have not see the full extent of your brilliance but so far I have not seen MENSA material...


That's all

[EndTheFed]

Your among people who don't feel like beating a dead horse, at the mere whim of a couple drama queens.

I guess me saying that is proof I'm an Obama supporter huh.

If that is the case the best way to stop this is to ignore one you don't want to beat...

[libertarian4321]

No.. I was just basing my opinion on your post's logic and reasoning. Maybe I have not see the full extent of your brilliance but so far I have not seen MENSA material...



Well, as I said, I'm not really "MENSA material" because, like most intelligent people, I'm not enough of a dork to join the organization.

Keep reading my posts, you'll see the brilliance. Hell, you've already seen that I'm bright enough to not vote for McCain.

[nbhadja]

Well...the Ron Paul movement is supposed to be for freedom of speech. If this is a Ron Paul forum and you ban someone who doesn't share your view...then you have SINNED against RON PAUL. Either you believe in freedom of speech or you don't...it can't be that you Pick and choose what speech is free due to whether you agree with it or not. If you do that...then you reallly don't believe in freedom of speech.

Point is...endthefed and I are Ron Paul supporters who are exercising our right to vote for who we think is best. I think this forum has managed to run off all the conservative / republican Ron Paul supporters. Tones and endthefed are about the only two left and you want to ban us. You aren't doing so well keeping your Liberty Movement together are ya? Pretty soon you'll have a couple of people on here patting each other on the back.

I'm just going to say this...at my peril. C$L just recently watered down the Liberty movement by purging 110,000 people from their website. So what? Maybe there were some who were bogus...but what about all the others they will lose? That was a stupid thing to do, quite frankly and I wonder if they are really concerned about keeping this movement together at all. Endorsing 4 people shattered this movement. Endorsing Chuck Baldwin ran off your Barr folks. WHAT THE HELL ARE THEY DOING???? I consider it mass chaos. TONES (and sad)

You are voting for Liberal McCain. You are not conservative, you are a big government liberal.

[brandon]

Man, this is a bizarre response.

+1

wtf are you smoking TONES?

http://www.12steptreatmentcentres.com/Articles/crack.JPG

[torchbearer]

Us West Australians are like second citizens of Bali.

We'll get you sorted.

Well, I know where i'm going for my next vacation.


and talking about distribution problems, the only beer the gas station had in stock was budweiser. :(

[EndTheFed]

This post was worth repeating. Actually, let me repeat it louder:


EndTheFed, you are not accomplishing anything by continually pushing McCain here. Not only has everyone already made up their minds who to vote for, but Ron Paul Forums is not the place to push McCain on people. It would be one thing if you just shared your opinions in the middle of ongoing discussions, but instead, you keep creating pro-McCain thread after pro-McCain thread, and it's just not welcome here. When you flood the forum with distracting threads entirely counter to the purpose of the forum, that's not called free speech - that's called being a nuisance on someone's private property. Seriously, how many posts have you made here that aren't related to trolling for McCain or ripping on Obama for the purpose of trolling for McCain? It looks like about 600 of your 749 posts have been all about pushing McCain on the rest of us! You already crossed the line LONG ago from being a Ron Paul supporter who wants to "bring tolerance" to the board to being a McCain supporter who wants free reign to make Ron Paul Forums his own personal playground.

I'm not calling for you to be banned - at least not yet - but for the love of the Flying Spaghetti Monster, please drop the issue! You and tones are voting for McCain, Hamadeh's mom is voting for Obama, and most of the rest of us want nothing to do with either. We get it...now give it a rest. Tones, you may make a higher percentage of posts that aren't pro-McCain or Obama-bashing, but your ridiculous exaggerations - half the time in all caps - about everyone here being "liberal loons" and "Obama supporters" put you right up with him on the annoying scale. You need to give it a rest as well. It's gotten old.

The best way to handle this if this is what you think is to don't post to my threads... or respond to my posts...

[nbhadja]

Mods, move this Mccain trolls threads out of the grassroots section. It has no relation to anything, send it to some unpopular part of RPF.
He is just trying to convert people to McCain.
Unfortunately for him, almost all RP supporters are smart enough to realize that McCain is a big government liberal who is no different than Obama.

[EndTheFed]

I hope you never have to deal with a sound board or a lighting board at some auditorium or anything like that. Because given your complete inability to understand that there might just be more than two options, I doubt you could ever handle anything but a normal light switch. A dimmer might just be too much for you.

I did this all through high school and college.. Actually I was quit good at it..

Both sound and lighting.. I worked at our civic center and I also was head of the group that brought all of the nationally know christian acts to huntsville AL's von braun civic center for 5 years..

Any thing else?

[Ozwest]

Well, I know where i'm going for my next vacation.


and talking about distribution problems, the only beer the gas station had in stock was budweiser. :(

No low alcohol beverages allowed south of the equator. :D

[EndTheFed]

Exactly. Ron Paul most certainly was not telling us to vote for McCain.

I did not say he said to vote for mccain an have NEVER said this. ... I said (paraphrased before it was censored) that RP said there was validity in the lesser of 2 evils argument which he did.

[libertarian4321]

I did this all through high school and colledge.. Actually I was quit good at it..

Both sound and lighting.. I worked at our civic center and I also was head of the group that brought all of the nationally know christian acts to huntsville AL's von braun civic center for 5 years..

Any thing else?

Just out of curiosity, which "colledge" would that be?

Folks, when he answers, make sure you keep your kids far away from that "colledge."

[ClockwiseSpark]

I did not say he said to vote for mccain an have NEVER said this. ... I said (paraphrased before it was censored) that RP said there was validity in the lesser of 2 evils argument which he did.

He also said it was a poor argument for McCain but repeating that doesn't fit in with your shilling does it. :rolleyes:

Don't worry guys. We only have to put up with this for 2 1/2 weeks. Once the elections are over the McCain trolls will go away.

[nbhadja]

I did not say he said to vote for mccain an have NEVER said this. ... I said (paraphrased before it was censored) that RP said there was validity in the lesser of 2 evils argument which he did.

You know what Ron Paul has said a million times? To vote 3rd party and avoid the 2 main candidates because they are horrible and the same.

[brandon]

I said (paraphrased before it was censored) that RP said there was validity in the lesser of 2 evils argument which he did.

No he didn't!!!!!!

Do you even know what the " lesser of 2 evils" argument is?

[EndTheFed]

Just out of curiosity, which "colledge" would that be?

Folks, when he answers, make sure you keep your kids far away from that "colledge."

Well University of North Alabama and the University of Alabama in Huntsville (which is one of the best engineering schools in the SE)

Any other questions?

[EndTheFed]

Just out of curiosity, which "colledge" would that be?

Folks, when he answers, make sure you keep your kids far away from that "colledge."

Hey... i did not take typing especially on a screwed up keyboard...

[brandon]

Well University of North Alabama and the University of Alabama in Huntsville (which is one of the best engineering schools in the SE)

Any other questions?

You went to school for engineering? What kind of engineering?

[Ozwest]

Someones calling the pot...

Cards on the table.

[EndTheFed]

No he didn't!!!!!!

Do you even know what the " lesser of 2 evils" argument is?

Of course I do... Hmmm lets see how does it go......

the two party system says there are only two choices and through fearmongering try to prove that one or theother is so terrible that you MUST vote for this one... yadda yadda yadda...

Then the RP group think answer is "this is the false choice fallacy" yaddee yaddee yaddee....

The problem with this is that there is evil in this world it is not all black & white (oops... now im a racist aint i. ... mmm its showing though tones)... and there is some evil that is less than other evil.

If you think that any other besides mccain or obama THIS ELECTION is going to be
elected then you are suffering from a "false reality fallacy"

That being said i believe one is less evil that the other...

[ClockwiseSpark]

Of course I do... Hmmm lets see how does it go......

the two party system says there are only two choices and through fearmongering try to prove that one or theother is so terrible that you MUST vote for this one... yadda yadda yadda...

Then the RP group think answer is "this is the false choice fallacy" yaddee yaddee yaddee....

The problem with this is that there is evil in this world it is not all black & white (oops... now im a racist aint i. ... mmm its showing though tones)... and there is some evil that is less than other evil.

If you think that any other besides mccain or obama THIS ELECTION is going to be
elected then you are suffering from a "false reality fallacy"

That being said i believe one is less evil that the other...

http://leftwingconspiracy.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/09/motivator4699699.jpg

[EndTheFed]

You went to school for engineering? What kind of engineering?

Computer programming I have been a programmer for 26 years...

very fluent in Fortan, Basic, Visual Basic, C, C++, C# DBASE II, DBASE III

.NET, Woked with SQL Server 6.5, 7.0, 2000, 2005, Oracle.

Web developemet from the first days of the WEB ... did my first web pages on unix box with CGI programming and shell scripts.

etc etc.....

anything else??

[libertarian4321]

You went to school for engineering? What kind of engineering?

Probably the kind where you learn to drive a choo choo train.

[EndTheFed]

[

I belieive I answered your question...

and now you resort to whining... why?

[EndTheFed]

And what are your educational backgrounds?
Hmmm

[ClockwiseSpark]

I belieive I answered your question...

and now you resort to whining... why?

You are not very bright.

http://www.roflposters.com/images/rofl/1208999209245.jpg.rofl.posters.jpg

[EndTheFed]

You are not very bright.




Very lame arguments.... very lame

[libertarian4321]

And what are your educational backgrounds?
Hmmm

Mine?

Do you really want to know?

[ClockwiseSpark]

Very lame arguments.... very lame

Argument? Why would I waste my time arguing with a McCain troll. You have an agenda, which is to convince us to switch our votes to McCain. It will never happen, you fail.

Get a clue.

http://funnyharhar.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/04/fail.jpg

[EndTheFed]

Mine?

Do you really want to know?

Yea..... im leaving work now.. so i will have t check back later tonight but yea...

[EndTheFed]

Argument? Why would I waste my time arguing with a McCain troll. You have an agenda, which is to convince us to switch our votes to McCain. It will never happen, you fail.

Get a clue.



That is not my "agenda"

[libertarian4321]

Yea..... im leaving work now.. so i will have t check back later tonight but yea...

BS Chemical Engineering: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute
MBA Boston University
MPH Tulane
BA History from a hyphenated State U. (just for fun- I have too much free time)

[moostraks]

That is not my "agenda"

Really???:rolleyes:

Then why the heck do you waste so much time whining about how third party voters will lead to destruction of the universe and how Obama plays with terrorists and is a Muslin(your spelling not mine)sympothyzer??(again your spelling phonetically in Alabamese)

Boy am I glad my children were spared an edumacation in Alabama...(My apologies to those who may have endured same said education against their will...)

[nodope0695]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9_yjImzwuIU


Boy did I just step in it... :D


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[Ozwest]

Alabamese?

LOL.

[DAFTEK]

This thread stinks with Obama and McCain trolls..... WTF is wrong with this place lately... THIS IS RON PAUL FORUMS!!!

[libertarian4321]

Hey, guys- click on that "Jones Soda" add at the bottom of the page- they need help-

From CNN Money: "Two months after announcing a second-quarter loss and sales far short of expectations, Seattle beverage maker Jones Soda (JSDA) laid off nearly 40% of its workforce this week, cutting 42 of its 110 employees."

[torchbearer]

This thread stinks with Obama and McCain trolls..... WTF is wrong with this place lately... THIS IS RON PAUL FORUMS!!!

Happens everytime we get close to a big event.
The closer we get to the election, the worse its going to get.
Then after the election, it will be better again.

The ******s the cheated us at the state conventions are getting desperate.
They pissed off a whole segment of their voters and now McCain is going to pull a mondale...
http://theackman.com/1984.gif

[DAFTEK]

http://images.cafepress.com/product/193368970v4_350x350_Front.jpg

[torchbearer]

Hey, guys- click on that "Jones Soda" add at the bottom of the page- they need help-

From CNN Money: "Two months after announcing a second-quarter loss and sales far short of expectations, Seattle beverage maker Jones Soda (JSDA) laid off nearly 40% of its workforce this week, cutting 42 of its 110 employees."

I try to buy Jones Cola when i can, but the store is almost always out of stock of the cola.

[DAFTEK]

How can anyone vote for Obama or McCain and live with themselves is beyond me, why are they even on this forum in the first place? The whole point of the movement "NOW" is to "VOTE 3rd PARTY"

[libertarian4321]

I try to buy Jones Cola when i can, but the store is almost always out of stock of the cola.

I don't think I've ever seen it in the store (though I've never really looked for it)- I just remember the "Ron Paul Cola".

I guess we didn't buy enough of it...

[nodope0695]

How can anyone vote for Obama or McCain and live with themselves is beyond me, why are they even on this forum in the first place? The whole point of the movement is to "VOTE 3rd PARTY"


Like torchbearer said, they're desparate. Just don't feed them, and they'll go away.

They FAIL.

[torchbearer]

I don't think I've ever seen it in the store (though I've never really looked for it)- I just remember the "Ron Paul Cola".

I guess we didn't buy enough of it...

I know Krogers carries it.
It is really good if you like the taste of cane sugar.
Better for you since its frutose and not sucrose that sweetens it.

[DAFTEK]

Like torchbearer said, they're desparate. Just don't feed them, and they'll go away.

They FAIL.

The only way they will go away is for the mods to put their foot down and start banning these idiots, but i guess that goes against RP principles...:mad:

[nodope0695]

The only way they will go away is for the mods to put their foot down and start banning these idiots, but i guess that goes against RP principles...:mad:

Well, if nothing else, at least they provide free entertainment.:D

I love pasting TROLL pictures on their threads.

[torchbearer]

The only way they will go away is for the mods to put their foot down and start banning these idiots, but i guess that goes against RP principles...:mad:

Nah, its goes against Josh's directive. He wants light moderation.
Because people were bitchin' and whining when the mods were doing their jobs.
Not good for business I guess?

I've put them on ignore, and then highjack their threads with my own conversations.
Usually works.

Or you could pull a yongrel and aggressively fill all of their threads with pictures of retarded people.

[ClockwiseSpark]

How can anyone vote for Obama or McCain and live with themselves is beyond me, why are they even on this forum in the first place?

To convince us to do the same.

I wonder if the McCain camp is starting to regret treating Ron Paul so poorly. Doubtful but a nice thought.

[libertarian4321]

EndtheFed hasn't made a pro-McCain post since I threatened to give $25 to Obama every time he did.

I guess the free market works, lol.

[torchbearer]

To convince us to do the same.

I wonder if the McCain camp is starting to regret treating Ron Paul so poorly. Doubtful but a nice thought.

They are desperate.. they are so close to the ultimate power they crave... yet, not looking too good on the electorial map.
They took a gamble when they cheated us.

I told the fucks in Louisiana, I hope McCain was worth it to you because you have started a war with the wrong people.

[libertarian4321]

I wonder if the McCain camp is starting to regret treating Ron Paul so poorly.

That is a huge reason why I despise McCain and will never vote for him.

Make no mistake, John McCain is a vile human being, and a big government warmonger, but his disrespect toward RP and the liberty movement is a major reason to NOT vote for him.

[nodope0695]

Or you could pull a yongrel and aggressively fill all of their threads with pictures of retarded people.

Thats what I like to do....:D:D:D

http://citizenx.org/wp-content/retard.jpghttp://www.firekite.com/store/misc/pics/forum13/retard2.jpg

[ClockwiseSpark]

They are desperate.. they are so close to the ultimate power they crave... yet, not looking too good on the electorial map.
They took a gamble when they cheated us.

I told the fucks in Louisiana, I hope McCain was worth it to you because you have started a war with the wrong people.




That is a huge reason why I despise McCain and will never vote for him.
Make no mistake, John McCain is a vile human being, and a big government warmonger, but his disrespect toward RP and the liberty movement is a major reason to NOT vote for him.


I agree with you both. I absolutely despise McCain for his behavior during the primaries.

[mrkurtz]

To convince us to do the same.

I wonder if the McCain camp is starting to regret treating Ron Paul so poorly. Doubtful but a nice thought.

Funny you should mention that. A good friend of mine, who is an intense GWB and McCain supporter gave me an IM last night trying to get feeling for what it would take to get the RP supporters on board.

I said exactly this: "look in the mirror and convince that person why he should have voted for Ron Paul. The answer is there." I'm hoping to have a followup IM with him soon :D.

[ClockwiseSpark]

Funny you should mention that. A good friend of mine, who is an intense GWB and McCain supporter gave me an IM last night trying to get feeling for what it would take to get the RP supporters on board.

I said exactly this: "look in the mirror and convince that person why he should have voted for Ron Paul. The answer is there." I'm hoping to have a followup IM with him soon :D.

Interesting. Hopefully you'll have an entertaining story for us if you get a chance to follow up with him. :D

[nodope0695]

What I wrote was NOT a provocative lie... that is YOUR opinion to me I was parapfrasing what he said... and I still believe that is the point he was making in that clip..

An HONEST difference of opinion does not constitute a lie...


How did this modification HELP the forum...?

It was blatant censorship.. which is why I think you need more maturity to be a moderator..


http://img187.imageshack.us/img187/6366/retarded8oi5.jpg

[ClockwiseSpark]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9_yjImzwuIU


Boy did I just step in it... :D

http://members.optushome.com.au/rickclarke/retard.jpg

[nodope0695]

I asked you several times for your MENSA credentials...

Where are they smart guy...

http://www.sneeko.net/images/macros/Misc-Retard.jpg

[DAFTEK]

^ lol u guys..... :D

[nodope0695]

^ lol u guys..... :D


Just doin' our duty, ma'am.:D

[ClockwiseSpark]

Get down off your cross... use the wood to build a bridge (to nowhere) and get the fuck over it...


http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj256/topsoil2000/retard.jpg

[ClockwiseSpark]

Mmm full of shit...


http://www.freewebs.com/mad-hatter/eat-shit-2.jpg

[ClockwiseSpark]

Makes absolutly no sense...


http://www.demotivateus.com/posters/yoda-starwars-demotivational-poster.jpg

[ClockwiseSpark]

Guess Why? Hmmmmm you're an idiot. Could that be?


http://img.fannation.com/upload/user_image/image/134/314/full/1_smelly_idiot.jpg

[BillyDkid]

Yeah, I actually thought it was pretty funny. He is not the only one who has praised the glory of gridlock. This was my argument against Obama - that the last thing we need is government that works "better". I want all the discord and infighting we can get. I want them to be at each other's throats so they can get nothing at all done.

[BillyDkid]

http://www.freewebs.com/mad-hatter/eat-shit-2.jpgCome on, that is not real shit. It's weiners covered with chocolate. The least they could have done is use real shit.

[ClockwiseSpark]

There you go mis-quoting me again...

I did not say he was muslim so stop putting words in my mouth.





Yea... he is just a socialist, terrorist sympothizer, Muslin sympothizer and Black supremesist.



http://www.merrimusings.mu.nu/wp-content/images/LOSERPOSTER.jpg

[torchbearer]

Come on, that is not real shit. It's weiners covered with chocolate. The least they could have done is use real shit.

bananas covered in chocolate?

[Zera]

I hope the McCain camp fucks off. You can feel their presence... Breathing above your shoulder.

Seriously, trying to convince us that Obama will be worse than McCain is like saying saying stabbing yourself to death is better than just shooting yourself in the head. Either way, you're going to get the same results. I've mentioned it before, but the reason I rather see Obama win is to weaken the neocon infested GOP. I also would like to see the neocons cry their hearts out for nominating such a piece of shit over Paul. Let the neocons and their stupidity die... Good riddance.

[nodope0695]

I did notsay he saidit was an endorsement... but he IS saying there is a lesser of two evils wich is fought so hard against here on these forums..

http://www.memelo.org/leo-tard.jpg

LeoTARD

[Lucille]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9_yjImzwuIU

Great interview. Please Digg it (http://digg.com/political_opinion/Ron_Paul_on_CNN_American_Morning_10_1708)!

[ClockwiseSpark]

I hope the McCain camp fucks off. You can feel their presence... Breathing above your shoulder.

Seriously, trying to convince us that Obama will be worse than McCain is like saying saying stabbing yourself to death is better than just shooting yourself in the head. Either way, you're going to get the same results. I've mentioned it before, but the reason I rather see Obama win is to weaken the neocon infested GOP. I also would like to see the neocons cry their hearts out for nominating such a piece of shit over Paul. Let the neocons and their stupidity die... Good riddance.

http://www.storiesofwisdom.com/images/winner-win.jpg

[BillyDkid]

bananas covered in chocolate?Yes, you are probably right.

[Andrew-Austin]

Mission accomplished, clockwise. I declare this thread dead.

http://i301.photobucket.com/albums/nn53/Diebold89/dancingstern.gif

[ClockwiseSpark]

This is rediculous

http://media.ebaumsworld.com/picture/Akiric/Ridiculous.png

[ClockwiseSpark]

Mission accomplished, clockwise. I declare this thread dead.

http://i301.photobucket.com/albums/nn53/Diebold89/dancingstern.gif

I was having fun and time just got away from me. :p


He'll be back to resurrect this thread and go over all the GOP talking points with us, rest assured.

[Lucille]

Well, there is something to be said for a divided government, and Paul said it very well. I have the leisure of voting my principles, but if it were close in my state, I'm afraid I'd have to vote for McCain for that reason only.

[ClockwiseSpark]

Well, there is something to be said for a divided government, and Paul said it very well. I have the leisure of voting my principles, but if it were close in my state, I'm afraid I'd have to vote for McCain for that reason only.

Indeed, if only we'd had a republican in the White House we could have stopped this bailout. :rolleyes:

[nodope0695]

Mission accomplished, clockwise. I declare this thread dead.

http://i301.photobucket.com/albums/nn53/Diebold89/dancingstern.gif


But its just so fun!:D:D:D My gut hurts from laughing so hard at some of the pics that were posted...

[ronpaulhawaii]

Here is the bottom lines...


Happens everytime we get close to a big event.
The closer we get to the election, the worse its going to get.
Then after the election, it will be better again.

The ******s the cheated us at the state conventions are getting desperate.
They pissed off a whole segment of their voters and now McCain is going to pull a mondale...
http://theackman.com/1984.gif


http://images.cafepress.com/product/193368970v4_350x350_Front.jpg


...
I wonder if the McCain camp is starting to regret treating Ron Paul so poorly. Doubtful but a nice thought.


They are desperate.. they are so close to the ultimate power they crave... yet, not looking too good on the electorial map.
They took a gamble when they cheated us.

I told the fucks in Louisiana, I hope McCain was worth it to you because you have started a war with the wrong people.


That is a huge reason why I despise McCain and will never vote for him.

Make no mistake, John McCain is a vile human being, and a big government warmonger, but his disrespect toward RP and the liberty movement is a major reason to NOT vote for him.


I agree with you both. I absolutely despise McCain for his behavior during the primaries.


I hope the McCain camp fucks off. You can feel their presence... Breathing above your shoulder.

Seriously, trying to convince us that Obama will be worse than McCain is like saying saying stabbing yourself to death is better than just shooting yourself in the head. Either way, you're going to get the same results. I've mentioned it before, but the reason I rather see Obama win is to weaken the neocon infested GOP. I also would like to see the neocons cry their hearts out for nominating such a piece of shit over Paul. Let the neocons and their stupidity die... Good riddance.