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ItsTime
10-15-2008, 09:54 AM
They were talking about how Obama was going to cut taxes. They said Obama would cut taxes by making the states start paying for services? They also said Obama would kill government programs and reduce others. Have the fed stop funding public programs and make the states pay for it.

And wouldnt making the states pay for it just skyrocket property, sales, and state income taxes?

Any truth to this?

Vote Waterman 2028
10-15-2008, 10:04 AM
No truth to it. There is no feasible way with the economic recession that we are in to be able to cut taxes. And since hes a democrat you can count on "fair" tax increases on everyone, because it the "patriotic thing to do."

acptulsa
10-15-2008, 10:06 AM
Bwahahahaha!!

Damn. Did you get some of that Kool-Aid? There was something stronger than Everclear in it...

So, what part of California is dead broke did they not understand? What part of state and municipal bonds are tanking right alongside stocks did they not understand?

AdamT
10-15-2008, 10:07 AM
Obomber will increase taxes and increase spending like the scum globalist puppet presidents always do.

ItsTime
10-15-2008, 10:07 AM
Bwahahahaha!!

Damn. Did you get some of that Kool-Aid? There was something stronger than Everclear in it...

So, what part of California is dead broke did they not understand? What part of state and municipal bonds are tanking right alongside stocks did they not understand?

I know.. I did not even argue. This has to be the biggest bullcrap I have ever head from an Obama supporter.

I just said Obama wont do any of that.

Jeremy
10-15-2008, 10:08 AM
Obama will increase federal government spending by $383.4 billion

http://www.ntu.org/main/press.php?PressID=1048&org_name=NTUF

danberkeley
10-15-2008, 10:50 AM
Making the states pay for their own services? The federal gov'ment assumed funding for all those services without the states permission. I'm still trying to figure out where in the Constitution it says Congress can tax and provide for social security.

ItsTime
10-15-2008, 10:56 AM
Making the states pay for their own services? The federal gov'ment assumed funding for all those services without the states permission. I'm still trying to figure out where in the Constitution it says Congress can tax and provide for social security.

Right. But is Obama a big states guy? States should pay for their own services. Im just saying I dont believe Obama believes that.

danberkeley
10-15-2008, 11:10 AM
Right. But is Obama a big states guy? States should pay for their own services. Im just saying I dont believe Obama believes that.

I agree with you. But point I was pointing out the factualand logical errors in the Obama supporter's argument. We all (RP supporters, at least) know that Obama is pro-big federal gov'ment.

ItsTime
10-15-2008, 11:12 AM
I agree with you. But point I was pointing out the factualand logical errors in the Obama supporter's argument. We all (RP supporters, at least) know that Obama is pro-big federal gov'ment.

Yup. This was the first time I heard an Obama supporter say this and it was so illogical it took me by surprise lol

fletcher
10-15-2008, 01:06 PM
Obama thinks tax cuts and welfare are the same thing.

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB122385651698727257.html

ItsTime
10-15-2008, 01:11 PM
Obama thinks tax cuts and welfare are the same thing.

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB122385651698727257.html

Just spreading the wealth around so people can take out more loans.

dannno
10-15-2008, 03:43 PM
Obama thinks tax cuts and welfare are the same thing.

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB122385651698727257.html

Uhh, careful, Ron Paul thinks along these same lines that the article is attacking.

ewizacft
10-15-2008, 04:26 PM
Uhh, careful, Ron Paul thinks along these same lines that the article is attacking.

Please explain.