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Havax
10-14-2008, 09:04 PM
I have been thinking about this lately and have tried to find anything, an article, a video, anything that has Obama making any comment about Ron Paul at any time. I was also thinking how exciting and awesome it would be to watch a presidential debate between Obama and Paul, and how Obama would go about trying to attack any of Ron's points.

Knightskye
10-14-2008, 09:06 PM
There's a clip of Obama answering a question about the 'NAU', and he mentioned that, "I know it's something Ron Paul has talked about."

There's also another time when he was making a stump speech and talking about how well he was polling against Republicans. He didn't mention Ron Paul, but someone in the crowd shouted out his name, and Obama said he'd beat him too.

josephadel_3
10-14-2008, 09:07 PM
If he'd attack Ron's points he'd probably give some socialist horseshit about how RP's policies would allow the private sector to disadvantage the poor and create too wide of a wealth gap.

josephadel_3
10-14-2008, 09:08 PM
There's a clip of Obama answering a question about the 'NAU', and he mentioned that, "I know it's something Ron Paul has talked about."

There's also another time when he was making a stump speech and talking about how well he was polling against Republicans. He didn't mention Ron Paul, but someone in the crowd shouted out his name, and Obama said he'd beat him too.

He probably would beat RP. Hate to say it, although it would be a hell of a lot closer than McCain vs Obama. The fact that RP has an (R) next to his name would cause him to lose. Yes, it's that simple.

angelatc
10-14-2008, 09:11 PM
He probably would beat RP. Hate to say it, although it would be a hell of a lot closer than McCain vs Obama. The fact that RP has an (R) next to his name would cause him to lose. Yes, it's that simple.

I think the fact that 99% of the black voters are going to go to the polls this year is going to be a bigger factor than the R.

Knightskye
10-14-2008, 09:12 PM
He probably would beat RP. Hate to say it, although it would be a hell of a lot closer than McCain vs Obama. The fact that RP has an (R) next to his name would cause him to lose. Yes, it's that simple.

There wouldn't be any negative stories for HuffPo to post, though.

I think he'd have a shot. Especially if they got the chance to debate.

Paulitical Correctness
10-14-2008, 09:14 PM
Obama would slaughter Ron Paul, don't hate on me - it's true.

Bullshit, if delivered in the right way (And Obama is certainly a master at this...) can and will win the hearts of the sheeple ( Just look at his following now..lol). The truth is only appealing if you're willing to believe in it. Sadly, Obamabots are only interested in vague terms like "hope" and "change", but anything with depth is too scary to wrap those little brains around. That's the problem with Ron Paul, he's too smart and can't seem to deliver his message in a way that dumbasses can interpret adequately. :mad:

ashura
10-14-2008, 09:14 PM
There wouldn't be any negative stories for HuffPo to post, though.

I think he'd have a shot. Especially if they got the chance to debate.

If Paul were in the general election, the specter of the newsletters would never go away. And Obama's presentation unfortunately outmatches Paul by a good margin.

Havax
10-14-2008, 09:16 PM
There's a clip of Obama answering a question about the 'NAU', and he mentioned that, "I know it's something Ron Paul has talked about."

There's also another time when he was making a stump speech and talking about how well he was polling against Republicans. He didn't mention Ron Paul, but someone in the crowd shouted out his name, and Obama said he'd beat him too.

Thanks, do you think you can try to link me both clips?

Conza88
10-14-2008, 09:38 PM
Are you fucken kidding me?

Do any of you here think? Geezus christ...

Given a fair media - Ron Paul would wipe the fucken floor with Obama. Are you all delusional?

Ron Paul would rip him to shreds, intellectually, morally, spiritually and rhetorically...

You're all buying into the bullshit media hype, get a clue.

As for black turnout... their total % of the population is; Black 12.85% - courtesy of CIA world factbook... Pretty much automatically for Obama :confused: lol... Say they are all, already voting for Obama... (not to take into account they are normal americans, who are apathetic aswell) they're obviously been taken into account with the polling..

I don't think they'll be deciding the election at all. :rolleyes:

The media is deciding the election. It's been that way since the get go.. every single RISE and FALL, all engineered by the media... Obama popularity RISES with the media and it DIES with the media. They decide for the American people.. and thats the problem. People believe them..

Jeremy
10-14-2008, 09:39 PM
Yah, he tried to make him look like a conspiracy theorist on the topic of a potential NAU

Then he said he could "deal with Ron Paul too" (during primaries)

Join The Paul Side
10-14-2008, 09:41 PM
are you fucken kidding me?

Do any of you here think? Geezus christ...

Given a fair media - ron paul would wipe the fucken floor with obama. Are you all delusional?

ron paul would rip him to shreds, intellectually, morally, spiritually and rhetorically...


qft :d

josephadel_3
10-14-2008, 09:43 PM
No, I'm not delusional, because obviously, the media isn't fair. Obama would beat RP, but it shouldn't be that way. It's a hard pill to swallow. I'm saying it would be much closer than a McBama match, but I honestly don't think RP's intelligence and common sense would outmatch Obama's bullshit rhetoric.

Archie
10-14-2008, 09:47 PM
Are you fucken kidding me?

Do any of you here think? Geezus christ...

Given a fair media - Ron Paul would wipe the fucken floor with Obama. Are you all delusional?

Ron Paul would rip him to shreds, intellectually, morally, spiritually and rhetorically...

You're all buying into the bullshit media hype, get a clue.

As for black turnout... their total % of the population is; Black 12.85% - courtesy of CIA world factbook... Pretty much automatically for Obama :confused: lol... Say they are all, already voting for Obama... (not to take into account they are normal americans, who are apathetic aswell) they're obviously been taken into account with the polling..

I don't think they'll be deciding the election at all. :rolleyes:

The media is deciding the election. It's been that way since the get go.. every single RISE and FALL, all engineered by the media... Obama popularity RISES with the media and it DIES with the media. They decide for the American people.. and thats the problem. People believe them..

You forgot to take into consideration all White Rapper suburbs who Think there Black because they listen to Tupac and Ice cube , I'm pretty sure this young adult wannabe black rappers are in the millions today hahahaha oops that's not really funny as much as its stupid/immature.

Paulitical Correctness
10-14-2008, 09:48 PM
You're talking in terms of YOUR perception. Obviously to us it'd be no contest, but with the media and peoples' aptness to swallow up bullshit...Obama would win.

Cleaner44
10-14-2008, 09:49 PM
Ron Paul would crush Obama pure and simple. Once Ron started speaking the truth in front of the national audience it would be all over. Everyone know that politicians are bullshit artists and they would welcome the truth. Just imagine Obama trying to pass his bullshit off and then Ron exposing him.

How are you going to pay for all of that healthcare Senator Obama...
Do you even understand the Federal Reserve Senator Obama...
Are you willing to stop giving all of the taxpayer money to foreign nations Senator Obama...

Ron would crush Obama in every single debate, no doubt.

Archie
10-14-2008, 09:52 PM
Are you fucken kidding me?

Do any of you here think? Geezus christ...

Given a fair media - Ron Paul would wipe the fucken floor with Obama. Are you all delusional?

Ron Paul would rip him to shreds, intellectually, morally, spiritually and rhetorically...

You're all buying into the bullshit media hype, get a clue.

As for black turnout... their total % of the population is; Black 12.85% - courtesy of CIA world factbook... Pretty much automatically for Obama :confused: lol... Say they are all, already voting for Obama... (not to take into account they are normal americans, who are apathetic aswell) they're obviously been taken into account with the polling..

I don't think they'll be deciding the election at all. :rolleyes:

The media is deciding the election. It's been that way since the get go.. every single RISE and FALL, all engineered by the media... Obama popularity RISES with the media and it DIES with the media. They decide for the American people.. and thats the problem. People believe them..

You forgot to take into consideration all The wannabe White Rapper suburbon types who Think there Black because they listen to Tupac and Ice cube , I'm pretty sure these young white adult wannabe black rappers are in the millions and millions today hahahaha oops that's not really funny as much as its stupid/immature.

MGreen
10-14-2008, 09:52 PM
I can't be the only one who thinks Obama is a pretty moderate speaker. At best, he's able to make himself sound sensible and level-headed, but that really only works because he debates people that are generally shit-for-brains. If RP was on his game, I think he'd do very well against Obama. He would get a lot of left-leaning independents to consider rejecting Obama.

As for Obama talking about Paul, especially nowadays, I think he knows he can't talk down to him. We shouldn't kid ourselves into thinking we're the absolute critical voting bloc in this election, but both sides are aware of us and do not want to drive us away.

Vote Waterman 2028
10-14-2008, 09:57 PM
Ron Paul would crush Obama pure and simple. Once Ron started speaking the truth in front of the national audience it would be all over. Everyone know that politicians are bullshit artists and they would welcome the truth. Just imagine Obama trying to pass his bullshit off and then Ron exposing him.
.

I think obama would still have a chance because sadly a majority of black citizens will vote for him solely because he is black. I cant say that if i were an african american i wouldnt do the same though, after so many white politicians have fucked them over with welfare, etc. I think a majority of americans though, once they heard how smart he was and he had made obama look like a guy who can only read off a prompter, then i think people MIGHT have that switch hit in there brains that goes "hey! this guy isnt full of shit!" But no point in talking about what if's really.... it would be awesome though :D lol

HOLLYWOOD
10-14-2008, 10:08 PM
OBama is a polished Lawyer with years of "BULLSHYT" experience. But the rigged debate crap has revealed, Barak is much more a fool than I even thought.

Yes Ron Paul would agree to NO RESTRICTIONS in debates and Barak would never agree to such a debate. Barak and his Money/Propaganda machines would SPIN the refusal as some RP nonsense.

Barack Obama is a Pandering Puppet control by his associated Masters of Wealth/Elitist/Zionists...He's a total sellout, with excellent SALES and MARKETING... add the MONEY and you can be the most evil idiot and still be presented to the American people as a Prophet saving the country.

People forget that Barack Obama took time out from his campaign to rewrite legislation for EXCELON ENERGY in case of a NUCLEAR ACCIDENT, EXCELON wasn't mandated to notify and be held responsible in radioactive plant accidents.

http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2008/04/11/877242.aspx (http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2008/04/11/877242.aspx)

HOW's that for CHANGE?

Conza88
10-14-2008, 10:12 PM
You're talking in terms of YOUR perception. Obviously to us it'd be no contest, but with the media and peoples' aptness to swallow up bullshit...Obama would win.

The assumption is Ron Paul and Obama would debate... haha.. you then critcize my assumption; - that the media would be fair in that situation? :confused:

Lmao.... :D

nbhadja
10-14-2008, 10:13 PM
No, I'm not delusional, because obviously, the media isn't fair. Obama would beat RP, but it shouldn't be that way. It's a hard pill to swallow. I'm saying it would be much closer than a McBama match, but I honestly don't think RP's intelligence and common sense would outmatch Obama's bullshit rhetoric.

If given fair media, Ron Paul would murder Obama. Wanna know why? Because if the media was fair they would tell the truth andreport that the Fed reserve causes massive inflation and is responsible for the increasing cost of living, regulation destroys us, politicians like obama do as well, big government caused the problems etc.

Conza88
10-14-2008, 10:15 PM
Even if the media wasn't fair... like the Primary debates etc...

In terms of just the debate... Ron Paul would wipe the floor with him, like he wiped the floor with all the other GOPers...

It's the after math that matters, the talking points, the "F U Franks" thats what makes these people lose reality.. "Ron Paul won the debate? Ohh hell no, we're being tricked here..." all that {Chris Rock's voice = "BULLLLLSHIT"} is what messes things up.

Like I said earlier.. the media chooses the president.

nbhadja
10-14-2008, 10:19 PM
Yeah the way the typical conformist is that if they hear a politician say "I will murder all 5 year old girls" they will actually support that politician if all the MSM talking heads say "you know that sounds like a brilliant idea, I heard 5 year olds have bad behavior and were responsible for the Enron crises and the current economic crisis. "

JohnJay
10-14-2008, 10:23 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GbV8duHcXX0&feature=related

YouTube where Obama refers to RP about NAU (at 1:45 mark)

Captain America
10-14-2008, 10:35 PM
after any debate Dr Paul would surge in the polls, i still believe he was cheated in the primaries and pissed he didnt go 3rd party.

josephadel_3
10-14-2008, 10:42 PM
Yeah the way the typical conformist is that if they hear a politician say "I will murder all 5 year old girls" they will actually support that politician if all the MSM talking heads say "you know that sounds like a brilliant idea, I heard 5 year olds have bad behavior and were responsible for the Enron crises and the current economic crisis. "

lmao. This was better than coffee.. Hahahaha

josephadel_3
10-14-2008, 10:47 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GbV8duHcXX0&feature=related

YouTube where Obama refers to RP about NAU (at 1:45 mark)

This pisses me off. He shrugs it off as something that was hyped up on blogs and has no evidence and is just a conspiracy. Ever heard of SPP? huh? oh, that's right you never show up when something important is happening.

Knightskye
10-14-2008, 10:48 PM
Thanks, do you think you can try to link me both clips?

Here's Obama mentioning Ron Paul (around 1:40).
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D5fh-kl2nS4

I have looked, but I couldn't find the other one.

ClayTrainor
10-14-2008, 10:53 PM
Here's Obama mentioning Ron Paul (around 1:40).
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D5fh-kl2nS4

I have looked, but I couldn't find the other one.

The answer Obama gives to this question is pathetic.


This is by far the best video to convert the obamabots
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jovq9j8cJSc

josephadel_3
10-14-2008, 11:24 PM
The answer Obama gives to this question is pathetic.


This is by far the best video to convert the obamabots
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jovq9j8cJSc

I think it would have been better if it didn't focus solely on the NAU.

Conza88
10-14-2008, 11:55 PM
The answer Obama gives to this question is pathetic.


This is by far the best video to convert the obamabots
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jovq9j8cJSc

That is good.. :D

Knightskye
10-15-2008, 03:02 AM
That is good.. :D

You know your Obama videos, don't you? :D

LibertyEagle
10-15-2008, 03:17 AM
Obama is a Marxist. I doubt he'd spend much time talking about Ron Paul, as they are polar opposites.

Conza88
10-15-2008, 04:23 AM
You know your Obama videos, don't you? :D

Haha.. yeah made one. :o

That one takes a cool angle though, deliberately confronts.. I try to do it subtly.. rofl.

maqsur
10-15-2008, 04:34 AM
Unfortunately, it wouldn't matter if Ron Paul crushed Obama in debate. We all know he would, because we've seen Paul crush the other republicans in debates.

The problem lies with the electorate. After all, at all those debates, the most applause came after neocon talking points. And so it would be in a debate between Obama and Paul, the audience would go more with Obama because as other have said, they want to hear feelgood sunshine up their collective asses.

Therefore, at the end of the day, it will be the asses full of sunshine who will carry Obama to an electoral victory between the two.

Conza88
10-15-2008, 04:43 AM
Unfortunately, it wouldn't matter if Ron Paul crushed Obama in debate. We all know he would, because we've seen Paul crush the other republicans in debates.

The problem lies with the electorate. After all, at all those debates, the most applause came after neocon talking points. And so it would be in a debate between Obama and Paul, the audience would go more with Obama because as other have said, they want to hear feelgood sunshine up their collective asses.

Therefore, at the end of the day, it will be the asses full of sunshine who will carry Obama to an electoral victory between the two.

Who influences the electorates opinion? MSM. It comes back to them. Not totally responsible, but they are directly involved.

There was a tv producer who anaylsed the whole situation, obama, ron paul, hillary clinton etc etc.... with google trends.. awesome thingo. Obama poppularity, goes up and down with media coverage. Rp stays the same (HIGH) with 0 coverage.. PWND :D

iddo
10-15-2008, 04:55 AM
I have looked, but I couldn't find the other one.
As far as I know, there was never a video of the other one, but it was quoted in a Colorado newspaper, here:
http://blogs.rockymountainnews.com/sprengelmeyer/archives/2007/11/obama_on_paul_a_diplomatic_dod.html
("I'll worry about Ron Paul if he gets to the general election.")

werdd
10-15-2008, 04:57 AM
If ron paul was to debate obama, he would completely wipe the floor with him. Obama has no understanding of monetary policy, and the economic crisis we are in. Ron Paul and peter schiff are delivering real answers, while mccain and obama are just telling us we need more socialism.

If Ron Paul was allowed to debate 1 on 1 with anyone, he would completely mop the floor with them on any subject. He is an intellectual superior.

gilliganscorner
10-15-2008, 05:08 AM
Are you fucken kidding me?

Do any of you here think? Geezus christ...

Given a fair media - Ron Paul would wipe the fucken floor with Obama. Are you all delusional?

Ron Paul would rip him to shreds, intellectually, morally, spiritually and rhetorically...

You're all buying into the bullshit media hype, get a clue.

As for black turnout... their total % of the population is; Black 12.85% - courtesy of CIA world factbook... Pretty much automatically for Obama :confused: lol... Say they are all, already voting for Obama... (not to take into account they are normal americans, who are apathetic aswell) they're obviously been taken into account with the polling..

I don't think they'll be deciding the election at all. :rolleyes:

The media is deciding the election. It's been that way since the get go.. every single RISE and FALL, all engineered by the media... Obama popularity RISES with the media and it DIES with the media. They decide for the American people.. and thats the problem. People believe them..

QFT.

It would be the equivalent of watching an intellectual sledgehammer falling on a thumbtack.

If RP was debating Obama, it would be almost embarrassing to watch Obama look for the teleprompter to deliver him out of Paul's philosophical and pragmatic headlocks. As we all know, Paul is the real deal.

Obama is a fabrication. So is McCain. The media tagged McCain with the "maverick" label. I think RP is the true "maverick". For one, anyone who would openly advocate the abolition of the Fed and the IRS (thus eliminating income tax) is a maverick. How many times did the media spin, when they at least wrote a story on him, that "Ron Paul favors low taxes". They did NOT tell the American people that he would abolish income tax. That would have got the sheeple's attention.

Conza88
10-15-2008, 05:36 AM
QFT.

It would be the equivalent of watching an intellectual sledgehammer falling on a thumbtack.

If RP was debating Obama, it would be almost embarrassing to watch Obama look for the teleprompter to deliver him out of Paul's philosophical and pragmatic headlocks. As we all know, Paul is the real deal.

Obama is a fabrication. So is McCain. The media tagged McCain with the "maverick" label. I think RP is the true "maverick". For one, anyone who would openly advocate the abolition of the Fed and the IRS (thus eliminating income tax) is a maverick. How many times did the media spin, when they at least wrote a story on him, that "Ron Paul favors low taxes". They did NOT tell the American people that he would abolish income tax. That would have got the sheeple's attention.

I'd pay 10% of my savings to see that, and you could probably get me to go way higher. :D

Ozwest
10-15-2008, 05:40 AM
I'd pay 10% of my savings to see that, and you could probably get me to go way higher. :D

Dr. Paul would consider a investment of 10 % in bullion a satisfactory redemption.:)

gilliganscorner
10-15-2008, 05:40 AM
I'd pay 10% of my savings to see that, and you could probably get me to go way higher. :D

It would be hilarious if the cameras panned-left got a shot at Obama's handlers sweating, fidgeting with embarrassment, and face-palming themselves.

If the cameras panned-right to Paul's handler area, there wouldn't be any embarrassment at all. In fact, there wouldn't be any handlers. Maybe just Carol Paul serving juice and cookies to the press. :D

Conza88
10-15-2008, 06:28 AM
It would be hilarious if the cameras panned-left got a shot at Obama's handlers sweating, fidgeting with embarrassment, and face-palming themselves.

If the cameras panned-right to Paul's handler area, there wouldn't be any embarrassment at all. In fact, there wouldn't be any handlers. Maybe just Carol Paul serving juice and cookies to the press. :D

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JWAcEI1_-qg

:D

ClayTrainor
10-15-2008, 08:28 AM
Those of you who actually think Obama would be Paul in a debate are seriously flawed in your logic.

Paul would wipe the floor with Obama and his false rhetoric.

Kade
10-15-2008, 08:31 AM
Are you fucken kidding me?

Do any of you here think? Geezus christ...

Given a fair media - Ron Paul would wipe the fucken floor with Obama. Are you all delusional?

Ron Paul would rip him to shreds, intellectually, morally, spiritually and rhetorically...

You're all buying into the bullshit media hype, get a clue.

As for black turnout... their total % of the population is; Black 12.85% - courtesy of CIA world factbook... Pretty much automatically for Obama :confused: lol... Say they are all, already voting for Obama... (not to take into account they are normal americans, who are apathetic aswell) they're obviously been taken into account with the polling..

I don't think they'll be deciding the election at all. :rolleyes:

The media is deciding the election. It's been that way since the get go.. every single RISE and FALL, all engineered by the media... Obama popularity RISES with the media and it DIES with the media. They decide for the American people.. and thats the problem. People believe them..

The day you make me think, is the day I quit the forums.

steph3n
10-15-2008, 08:32 AM
Ron Paul would crush Obama pure and simple. Once Ron started speaking the truth in front of the national audience it would be all over. Everyone know that politicians are bullshit artists and they would welcome the truth. Just imagine Obama trying to pass his bullshit off and then Ron exposing him.

How are you going to pay for all of that healthcare Senator Obama...
Do you even understand the Federal Reserve Senator Obama...
Are you willing to stop giving all of the taxpayer money to foreign nations Senator Obama...

Ron would crush Obama in every single debate, no doubt.

people don't want the truth, the truth is hard.

Conza88
10-15-2008, 09:03 AM
The day you make me think, is the day I quit the forums.

The day you start thinking, is the day I quit the forums.

Kade
10-15-2008, 09:05 AM
The day you start thinking, is the day I quit the forums.

How happy is the blameless Vestal's lot! The world forgetting, by the world forgot. Eternal sunshine of the spotless mind! Each pray'r accepted, and each wish resign'd.

John of Des Moines
10-15-2008, 09:06 AM
Haven't read every post word for word but first back last year somebody at an Obama event here in Iowa asked him about debating Paul (after dissing the other R's) and he paused and said something like crossing that bridge when gotten to. I remember reading about it here on the forums.

Second, if it was a Paul v Obama debate the first thing the organizers would do would be to inviting the other candidates, Baldwin, Nader, Barr and maybe others. The organizers would invite all the others to dilute the discontent voter vote. But with Paul as the R nominee I think most to the other party candidates would drop out to support Paul (well, Baldwin would, Nader a good hard maybe, and Barr a good hard "I'm full of myself so what do I get out of it Dr. Paul?").

Conza88
10-15-2008, 09:08 AM
How happy is the blameless Vestal's lot! The world forgetting, by the world forgot. Eternal sunshine of the spotless mind! Each pray'r accepted, and each wish resign'd.

-- Alexander Pope

:) Please quote the origional author next time... just in case someone got tricked into actually thinking that was you. ;)

kombayn
10-15-2008, 05:27 PM
I think Ron Paul would have a decent shot at the moment, considering he was right about the economy the whole time. He would definitely be a lot closer than John McCain at the moment. Now if you want to talk Hillary Clinton vs. Ron Paul general election, no question I think Ron Paul would chew her up, spit her out and expose her for the wicked witch that she is. Did I say witch? I meant bitch.