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hope7134
10-13-2008, 06:16 PM
http://freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2104545/posts

Theocrat
10-13-2008, 06:24 PM
All I have to say is "Wow." Listen to this (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NyvqhdllXgU) (from the link in the OP).

Time for Change
10-13-2008, 07:27 PM
That is the Liberal "Pop Culture" culture.
Do what everyone else does, because somebody who is perceived as cool is doing it.
In this case, supporting osama.

Like birds in a tree, one freaks out and takes flight and the rest follow.
They don't necessarily know why, they just do it because the first did.

You have a group of idiots who look up to one idiot that appears to be smarter than the rest.
They trust that the bigger idiot will lead them in the right direction…

See where I am going with this 8-)

HEHE…that felt good…

p4poetic
10-13-2008, 07:58 PM
How ignorant and contrived...
I can just as easily interview a part of McCain supporters and get the same result.

Time for Change
10-14-2008, 03:10 AM
As you can with ANYONE.

Your point?

Oh...that's right...
We are not allowed to speak against the great messiah; lest, we be called racist and narrow minded.

Never mind the fact that people are blindly and willingly going to vote themselves a tax increase because their "Smarter" buddy said that osama is the best choice.

Ignorant? Please!

nodope0695
10-14-2008, 03:30 AM
Reasons people will vote for Obama:

- He's black...oh, sorry, "african american."

- All thier friends are voting for him.

- CNN sure seems to like him.

- He's not McCain.

- He's not Bush.

- Hollywood actors told them to.

- He gives a darn good speech.

- He offers handouts, thus reassuring the welfare nation of continued freeloading and lack of personal responsibility.

- He seems so much smarter than Bush.

- Change.

The real fact of the matter here is that no matter who is elected, McCain or Obama, NOTHING IS GOING TO CHANGE. The war will not end, more soldiers will die, bankers will get richer, freedoms will erode, the dollar will continue to tank, and American soverinty will disappear.

Both men represent only one group: THE RICH CORPORATES AND BANKERS who seek world domination and absolute power. The sooner people realize this, the soon we might have a true revolution.

That is why neither shyster will get my vote. I may simply abstain from casting a vote for president. Or I will write Ron Paul in.

nodope0695
10-14-2008, 03:35 AM
how ignorant and contrived...
I can just as easily interview a part of mccain supporters and get the same result.

troll!

Dr.3D
10-14-2008, 05:26 AM
Prepare for the coming Obama nation.

Dieseler
10-14-2008, 03:06 PM
I know why.
A bigger fatter welfare check.
He claims he will give 95% of Americans a tax break.
I don't know the number for sure but I have heard that 65% of Americans really don't pay any Federal income tax. I'm gonna go a step further with this. I never have paid any after my tax return came in. I always have to pay the State and I have to pay the Social Security but I always get every penny of Federal that is deducted + the earned income and child credit. Just being honest. Its a touchy subject and of course I'm not proud of it but its a damn fact and needs to be stated.
Ok, that said from an honest below middle class and middle aged guy that files a tax return faithfully every year heres the question.
If he is going to give 95% a tax break when only 35% actually pay any at all, how in the heck can the 65% who don't pay any at all get a tax break?
Bingo!
The rest of you 35% are going to contribute toward my new welfare check.
Do I want your fucking money?
Hell no. I got pride in myself. I ain't askin nobody for nothin, if I can't get it on my own.
But thats the size of it folks. There are a whole lot of people out there that are going to vote for Barky that would love to take a chunk out of your hard earned money and they are looking forward to it too.
His whole campaign is blackmail and it should be against the law cause its just like highway robbery.
ITS WRONG, WRONG WRONG!

Calpico
10-14-2008, 05:05 PM
I'm somewhat of a hipster, thus I support Ron Paul because Obama is too mainstream.

UnReconstructed
10-14-2008, 06:34 PM
I don't know why they are voting for him either.

Sic Semper Tyrannis
10-14-2008, 08:23 PM
handouts

libertarian4321
10-15-2008, 03:33 AM
Reasons people will vote for Obama:

- He's not McCain.

- He's not Bush.

- He seems so much smarter than Bush.

- Change.



You could have stopped with just these.

Not being Bush/McCain is a HUGE deal after 8 years of Bush/McCain failure. When you have 8 years of dismal failure, both at home and abroad, of course the people want change. How could they not want it?

On top of that, Obama IS SMARTER than Bush or McCain, of that I have no doubt, so people think he might have the brains to fix things (whether he actually does or not remains to be seen, but its a safe bet that old man McCain isn't bright enough to solve problems).

Don't feel bad, though, an epic failure by McCain is exactly what we need to fix the Republican Party- its the only way we can ever hope to get this nation back on track.

mudhoney
10-15-2008, 04:50 AM
Don't feel bad, though, an epic failure by McCain is exactly what we need to fix the Republican Party- its the only way we can ever hope to get this nation back on track.

If Bush's failure wasn't enough to fix the Republican party and convince them to change their ways, why would electing another neocon like McCain suddenly wake people up?

I don't know what's best for the revolution at this time, but the same logic could be applied to Obama winning the election. The GOP would be looking to change its tune since their old ways lost them an election.

silverhawks
10-15-2008, 04:57 PM
It boggles my mind to hear this; in fact, it boggles my mind in the same way when I hear ANY American say that they are ok with the idea of America becoming a socialist state.

I grew up in a socialist state, I've seen what the end result of that is - and it certainly isn't freedom, prosperity or liberty. Socialism is just a control mechanism for government; it makes people reliant and dependent on government in order to survive; and once you start voting to keep your dole check (which is exactly what socialism becomes) it is VERY difficult to ever get people thinking in terms of working hard and earning money ever again.

My sister works in her local council offices, and the horror stories she tells of girls growing up to get pregnant in order to claim council housing - being encouraged by parents and grandparents to do so - instead of ever trying to get a job...I'll let you know right now that even though I'm not a citizen of the USA, I will fight tooth and nail before I let that mentality take root and blossom here.

I want my children (who are American citizens) to grow up with something better. I want them to have ambition, and drive, and entrepreneurial spirit, not be a mindless cog stuck in a welfare state.

Here's some examples:

Meet the families where no one's worked for THREE generations - and they don't care (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-541598/Meet-families-ones-worked-THREE-generations--dont-care.html)

Our 1m council house? You just take what you're given (http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/standard/article-23566550-details/Our+1m+council+house+You+just+take+what+you%27re+g iven/article.do)

Bear in mind, this is in the same country where soldiers returning from Afghanistan have been refused housing.

Council forced to house Asbo family in hotel (http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2004/nov/05/ukcrime.prisonsandprobation1)

Asbo is slang for "antisocial behaviour (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ASBO)order", an invention of the New Labour government handed out to those who "exhibit antisocial behaviour in public". This, at the same time as reducing actual police on the streets, installing video cameras in their place.

Yes, Britain IS that bad. The welfare system in Britain has been radically mis-used these last 10 years to create a voting bloc dedicated to keeping their dole check by keeping one political party in power.

This quote comes from a "socialist" state, the European Union, which the UK is slowly becoming at the hands of governments selling out their people:

"World governments are long overdue to make a collective-effort crackdown on this vile and destructive trade. Ridding the streets of drugs would empty the prisons and crime would taper off; young people would learn to enjoy themselves without the ruthless trend of stimulation being a goal of every party. Discipline would be easier to restore and everyone would be a whole lot happier. Ridding the streets of this poison can be done - it just needs the will. As for criticising addicts: making mistakes is a part of growing up - from which you are supposed to learn . But with drugs the word "hooked" means enslavement. Few human beings are strong-willed enough to break a drug habit when the temptation's all around them. They need the strong will of a responsible government to protect them. WHERE IS IT?"

So not the responsibility - or power - of free-willed citizens to do something about say, teaching their kids not to take drugs - its up to the GOVERNMENT to fix this problem. Absolute, mindless reliance.

Britain's greatest challenge over the next decade will be to shake off any influence from the EU, and to eradicate this strain of thought from its shores; otherwise it is doomed to become just a province of a totalitarian superstate (which in itself, will fall apart from corruption within 15 years).

Going to paraphrase Sinclair Lewis here...

When Socialism comes to America, it will come wrapped in Hope and Change.

I'm British...give me capitalism ANY DAY.

p4poetic
11-11-2008, 02:47 PM
As you can with ANYONE.

Your point?

Oh...that's right...
We are not allowed to speak against the great messiah; lest, we be called racist and narrow minded.

Never mind the fact that people are blindly and willingly going to vote themselves a tax increase because their "Smarter" buddy said that osama is the best choice.

Ignorant? Please!

That was my point! LOL. How could you have not gotten something so simple. You want to get snark with me and than just called out president elect "Osama". That would be an example of ignorance. Oh I'm sure that was a slip up, because 's' and 'b' are too close to each other on the keyboard. :rolleyes: How very mature of you. This is not about speaking against Obama, its not about Obama period. Its about taking a part of someone's supporters and pass them off as "zomggg see look Obama supporters don't know why they're voting for him!!!!11"

Why I [voted] for Obama:

- His stance on the Iraq war, send our troops home
- I'm pro choice
- He seems to have a firmer grasp on reality (in regards to the economy, etc)
- I'm more confident in his vice president
- McCain sold out his beliefs in order to be the GOP nominee
- I'm worried about McCain's health and age, I think the job would be too stressful for him.


troll!

Did you just call me a forum troll because I disagree?


I'm somewhat of a hipster, thus I support Ron Paul because Obama is too mainstream.

To be honest, if Obama wasn't physically appealing, he wouldn't be mainstream either. He's a good looking guy (I know most of the members here are male, but you can admit it :P) it was one of the first things back in 2004 everyone I knew talked about. Its his multicultural background that has people interested in him though. So please stop calling him "black" or "people just voted for him because he's black" because he is many things. He has universal appeal.

Mini-Me
11-12-2008, 05:58 AM
That was my point! LOL. How could you have not gotten something so simple. You want to get snark with me and than just called out president elect "Osama". That would be an example of ignorance. Oh I'm sure that was a slip up, because 's' and 'b' are too close to each other on the keyboard. :rolleyes: How very mature of you. This is not about speaking against Obama, its not about Obama period. Its about taking a part of someone's supporters and pass them off as "zomggg see look Obama supporters don't know why they're voting for him!!!!11"

Why I [voted] for Obama:

- His stance on the Iraq war, send our troops home
- I'm pro choice
- He seems to have a firmer grasp on reality (in regards to the economy, etc)
- I'm more confident in his vice president
- McCain sold out his beliefs in order to be the GOP nominee
- I'm worried about McCain's health and age, I think the job would be too stressful for him.



Did you just call me a forum troll because I disagree?



To be honest, if Obama wasn't physically appealing, he wouldn't be mainstream either. He's a good looking guy (I know most of the members here are male, but you can admit it :P) it was one of the first things back in 2004 everyone I knew talked about. Its his multicultural background that has people interested in him though. So please stop calling him "black" or "people just voted for him because he's black" because he is many things. He has universal appeal.

While I disagree entirely with Obama's economic policies, I have little faith in his anti-war stance (Iraq will just be downgraded from a "war" to just another base to add to our collection), and his vice President scares me almost as much as he does...
...
I will still agree with you that posters here unfairly single out Obama supporters for stereotyping, ignoring the fact that the vast majority of people all over the political spectrum are entirely irrational in their political behavior. That said, I think Obama's growing personality cult is fueling the recent focus on making fun of his supporters. Before it became so easy to mock people's admiration of our "Dear Leader," I believe the focus was more evenly split...after all, it WAS a bunch of Ron Paul supporters that created johnmccainforum.com as political satire. ;)

p4poetic
11-12-2008, 07:28 PM
Haha, that sounds funny. Never heard of johnmccainforum.com, but if its anything close to the PUMAs Hillary forum (that I have suspicions of not being genuine) it should be a good laugh :p

Question, why does Joe Biden 'scare' you?