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Volitzer
10-13-2008, 11:56 AM
A Wasted Vote

by Chuck Baldwin
October 10, 2008


When asked why they will not vote for a third party candidate, many people will respond by saying something like, "He cannot win." Or, "I don't want to waste my vote." It is true: America has not elected a third party candidate since 1860. Does that automatically mean, however, that every vote cast for one of the two major party candidates is not a wasted vote? I don't think so.

In the first place, a wasted vote is a vote for someone you know does not represent your own beliefs and principles. A wasted vote is a vote for someone you know will not lead the country in the way it should go. A wasted vote is a vote for the "lesser of two evils." Or, in the case of John McCain and Barack Obama, what we have is a choice between the "evil of two lessers."

Albert Einstein is credited with saying that insanity is doing the same thing over and over again, and expecting a different result. For years now, Republicans and Democrats have been leading the country in the same basic direction: toward bigger and bigger government; more and more socialism, globalism, corporatism, and foreign interventionism; and the dismantling of constitutional liberties. Yet, voters continue to think that they are voting for "change" when they vote for a Republican or Democrat. This is truly insane!

Take a look at the recent $700 billion Wall Street bailout: both John McCain and Barack Obama endorsed and lobbied for it. Both McCain and Obama will continue to bail out these international banksters on the backs of the American taxpayers. Both McCain and Obama support giving illegal aliens amnesty and a path to citizenship. In the debate this past Tuesday night, both McCain and Obama expressed support for sending U.S. forces around the world for "peacekeeping" purposes. They also expressed support for sending combat forces against foreign countries even if those countries do not pose a threat to the United States. Neither Obama nor McCain will do anything to stem the tide of a burgeoning police state or a mushrooming New World Order. Both Obama and McCain support NAFTA and similar "free trade" deals. Neither candidate will do anything to rid America of the Federal Reserve, or work to eliminate the personal income tax, or disband the Internal Revenue Service (IRS). Both Obama and McCain support the United Nations. So, pray tell, how is a vote for either McCain or Obama not a wasted vote?

But, back to the "he cannot win" argument: to vote for John McCain is to vote for a man who cannot win. Yes, I am saying it here and now: John McCain cannot win this election. The handwriting is on the wall. The Fat Lady is singing. It is all over. Finished. John McCain cannot win.

With only three weeks before the election, Barack Obama is pulling away. McCain has already pulled his campaign out of Michigan. In other key battleground states, McCain is slipping fast. He was ahead in Missouri; now it is a toss-up or leaning to Obama. A couple of weeks ago, Ohio, Pennsylvania, and Florida were all leaning towards McCain, or at least toss-up states. Now, they are all leaning to Obama. Even the longtime GOP bellwether state of Indiana is moving toward Obama. In addition, new voter registrations are at an all-time high, and few of them are registering as Republicans. In fact, the Republican Party now claims only around 25% of the electorate, and Independents are increasingly leaning toward Obama.

Ladies and gentlemen, Barack Obama is headed for an electoral landslide victory over John McCain. John McCain can no more beat Barack Obama than Bob Dole could beat Bill Clinton.

I ask, therefore, Are not conservatives and Christians who vote for John McCain guilty of the same thing that they accuse people who vote for third party candidates of doing? Are they not voting for someone who cannot win? Indeed, they are. In fact, conservatives and Christians who vote for John McCain are not only voting for a man who cannot win, they are voting for a man who does not share their own beliefs and principles. If this is not insanity, nothing is!

So, why not (for once in your life, perhaps) cast a vote purely for principle! Vote for someone who is truly pro-life. Someone who would quickly secure our nation's borders, and end the invasion of our country by illegal aliens. Someone who would, on his first day in office, release Border Patrol agents Ramos and Compean and fire U.S. Attorney Johnny Sutton. Someone who would immediately, upon assuming office, begin leading the charge to dismantle the Federal Reserve, overturn the 16th Amendment, expunge the IRS, and return America to sound money principles. Someone who would get the US out of the UN. Someone who would stop spending billions and trillions of dollars for foreign aid. Someone who would prosecute the Wall Street bankers who defrauded the American people out of billions of dollars. Someone who would work to repeal NAFTA, CAFTA, GATT, the WTO, and stop the NAFTA superhighway. Someone who would say a resounding "No" to the New World Order. Someone who would stop using our brave men and women in uniform as global cops for the United Nations. Someone who would stop America's global adventurism and interventionism. Someone who would steadfastly support and defend the right of the people to keep and bear arms.

"Who is this person?" you ask. Go here to find out:

BALDWIN '08

As John Quincy Adams said, "Always vote for principle, though you may vote alone, and you may cherish the sweetest reflection that your vote is never lost."

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Wendi
10-13-2008, 12:13 PM
In the first place, a wasted vote is a vote for someone you know does not represent your own beliefs and principles. A wasted vote is a vote for someone you know will not lead the country in the way it should go. A wasted vote is a vote for the "lesser of two evils." Or, in the case of John McCain and Barack Obama, what we have is a choice between the "evil of two lessers." Wow, that's exactly the argument I gave a family member Saturday night, who was trying to tell me it is stupid to even consider voting for anyone other than McCain. Their logic is that McCain is a lousy choice, but not as bad as Obama, and a vote for anyone else is basically a vote for Obama (someone please explain this to me, 'cause I don't get it).

mediahasyou
10-13-2008, 05:01 PM
In the first place, a wasted vote is a vote for someone you know does not represent your own beliefs and principles.

http://www.voluntaryist.com/articles/103.php

IrateNation
10-14-2008, 03:48 AM
Interesting article, however many would confuse voter abstinence for apathy I think.

nodope0695
10-14-2008, 04:00 AM
Interesting article, however many would confuse voter abstinence for apathy I think.

Agreed, however I will most likely abstain from voting for president. I cannot in good conscience place a vote for somebody who I so strongly oppose, whether its the lesser of two evils or not.

I've made that mistake twice, both with votes cast for that fuck, Bush, and I regret it, and feel guilty for it to this day. I shant let that happen again. Besides, I still want the t-shirt that reads, "Don't Blame Me, I Supported Ron Paul"

cheapseats
10-14-2008, 05:05 AM
It seems very clear to me that if a candidate would steal Obama's thunder in the little time that remains before the election, it isn't any of the third party candidates presently fielded. Does anyone think that Chuck Baldwin has a prayer?

If I am not mistaken in thinking that none of the third party candidates is liable to be elected come November, several questions arise.

Would all of the third party candidates enthusiastically endorse a late-entry alternative who commanded popularity, or will egos trump effectiveness? To hell with them, could all the people who feel certain that McCain is wrong and Obama is wronger reach consensus on a compromise candidate?

I have expressed my reservations about Ron Paul's viability, but a dimwit could see that he is a sounder practical choice than either of the Contenders. I hear/read people ask 'What would Dr. Paul do?', but does anyone just ask him, INVITE him to please step back up to the plate? One might say, piss or get off the pot.

Meanwhile, is there ANYONE that rests well in the esteem of the Majority?

Is there anyone who thinks that, even though this country is profoundly divided on a host of points, somehow the next candidate/Administration will dovetail exactly with his personal preferences and convictions, on all points?

What are quote-unquote Libertarians prepared to compromise, anything? Or will the Rugged Individualists stick to their guns while they stick to their guns, while we are picked off one by one? I say quote-unquote because I cannot for the life of me make sense of a bona fide Libertarian advocating for a state position on abortion. I can respect that he HAS an opinion, I can appreciate that his convictions are firm...or I could if I was in the habit of thinking about what someone else thinks, but I'm not. What care I what the Libertarian thinks, right? What care Libertarians think what OTHER Libertarians think? Freedom in deed but also of thought, yes? On the subject of abortion...a concept and procedure so narrowly defined as to occur wholly within the physical boundaries of an individual person's person, the penultimate sovereign state...how is it that some Libertarians suddenly turn into Gladys Kravitz?

To Hardright Christians, I put the same question. For all the goodly, godly sentiments that are generally NOT practiced in American governance or indeed in American society, why are they continually at a low boil on this one concept and procedure that is so narrowly defined as to occur wholly within the boundaries of Free Will? Let them come unto Me...not, haul their asses in here.

I will suggest that Abortion is a Big Issue only by design, nuthin' divine about it. It is MEANT to divide the people, and it reliably serves its purpose.

Perhaps just while we're at war and threatened by economic free-fall, is it conceivable that Americans whose opinions/beliefs/convictions on Abortion are diametrically opposed could agree to take Abortion off the table? Don't think about it...like the dead in Iraq and Afghanistan. Take comfort in the separation of church and state.

Volitzer
10-15-2008, 01:34 AM
Many people have made the Bilderberg connections with McSame and Bilder-Obama.

We just have to get it ij people's minds that Chuck Baldwin is the 'Ron Paul' of the Constitution Party.

Chuck Baldwin information !!!

http://www.loudobbsradio.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=820


Chuck Baldwin's acceptance speech !!!

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-5808710975074355086


Constitution Party Promotional Video

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7_SobkISNrY&feature=related


The Baldwin Campaign has put some great videos up on their YouTube channel at

http://www.youtube.com/user/chuckbaldwin2008


http://www.baldwin08.com/

http://www.chuckbaldwinlive.com

http://www.wakeup-usa.com/


Click on your state and co-ordinate your efforts.
http://baldwin08.com/statesmap.cfm

http://www.baldwin2008tv.com


Chuck Baldwin on the Lou Dobbs Show !!!


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iTJZXQtKtHk

Maverick
10-15-2008, 02:08 AM
But, back to the "he cannot win" argument: to vote for John McCain is to vote for a man who cannot win. Yes, I am saying it here and now: John McCain cannot win this election. The handwriting is on the wall. The Fat Lady is singing. It is all over. Finished. John McCain cannot win.

On a similar note, let me point out something I've been trying to tell some of the people I know.

Barrack Obama cannot win in Texas. There is no chance in hell. It's a solidly red state that McCain absolutely has in his pocket (no matter how badly he fails overall). So why bother to vote for Obama if you live here? There's no way he can carry the state. Isn't that a wasted vote?

SimpleName
10-15-2008, 06:12 PM
I have had to battle my family members with this. They simply do not understand the worthlessness of voting for these ignorant and self-centered politicians who don't give a damn about them. "I'd rather have McCain. You have to vote McCain so that Obama doesn't become president." Ugh...it is depressing and makes me revert to a general state of apathy all too often. What a struggle it is to make them wake up to the fact that voting for the "lesser of two evils" is still voting for evil. The paraphrased Einstein quote Baldwin mentions is pure genius. But NO ONE SEES THAT! My dad now has a McCain/Palin sign on my lawn because he "sure as hell doesn't want Obama to win."...as if it was a pure popularity contest. He tells me how insane this bailout is, as well as my brother and mother, but they are now all convinced that Mccain must win. My brother plays the "well, he's for guns...so that's good." Why must we find a way to feel like we are in the winning group? I'm sick of this nonsense. I might now very well vote in this election for ANYBODY outside of the two predominate parties. I refused for a while, because I did not see the necessary traits or ideas in either Baldwin or Barr (or McKinney), but I have a feeling I will vote in protest of the two party system. Still "iffy", but it is aggravating me to no end.

Athan
10-17-2008, 11:29 AM
The reason you should vote third party is because your vote simply does not matter if you donít vote third party. Unless your in a swing state, your vote is worthless.

Electoral College members have already been selected by party leaders. If a state like Texas has Obama win my a margin of 51%, Texas is still in the bag for McCain.

But if more people vote third party in major areas, they being to pay far more attention to those voters whom are not predictable.

Volitzer
10-17-2008, 12:25 PM
Support you local separatist movements.

heavenlyboy34
10-17-2008, 12:56 PM
Support you local separatist movements.

Are there any in Arizona?