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RCA
10-12-2008, 11:07 AM
Bob nailed it!

http://www.scetv.org/index.php/the_big_picture/debates_entry/october_11th_us_senate_debate/

RSLudlum
10-12-2008, 11:11 AM
He did pretty good. Conley started off the debate kinda weak, but got stronger as the debate continued.

ronpaulhawaii
10-12-2008, 11:14 AM
Yes, I just got done listening and liked what I heard.

BJ Lawson is almost fully funded, I hope people turn to helping Landon Cook (http://www.walshforclerk.com/) and Bob Conley (http://aimhighwithbob.com/)

Kotin
10-12-2008, 11:15 AM
Conley at the end was so badass.



is there anyway Ron Paul would do a money bomb for Conley like lawson??

AdamT
10-12-2008, 11:32 AM
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Kludge
10-12-2008, 11:38 AM
Conley was flopping so badly with me toward the beginning that I almost turned it off out of frustration -- I'm glad I didn't, he really took off once Iraq was the subject

Unspun
10-12-2008, 11:43 AM
Yes, foreign policy is his strong suite. Can't say I agree with him on everything. Still, I'd vote for him over the repugnant Graham.

trey4sports
10-12-2008, 12:52 PM
wow is the word

i thought conley was the absolute worst speaker i have ever heard in my life. If i were an average joe I would have thought he was totaly incompetent. He is a terrible speaker, and seemed like he had no clue what he was talking about. On the other hand graham sounded polished and sincere (even though we know he should be nominated for douche of the universe)

ive read conleys platform and I definetly support him HOWEVER i hope other people read his platform rather than just watching the debate because i thought it was terrible

IHaveaDream
10-12-2008, 01:53 PM
wow is the word

i thought conley was the absolute worst speaker i have ever heard in my life. If i were an average joe I would have thought he was totaly incompetent. He is a terrible speaker, and seemed like he had no clue what he was talking about. On the other hand graham sounded polished and sincere (even though we know he should be nominated for douche of the universe)

ive read conleys platform and I definetly support him HOWEVER i hope other people read his platform rather than just watching the debate because i thought it was terrible

Yep, Conley was trying too hard to remember his talking points. A scripted candidate seldom does very well in a debate. He should have been speaking from his heart instead of his head. Unfortunately, Graham doesn't have much of a heart or a head. So, I'll be voting for Conley and urging others to do so too.

Flash
10-12-2008, 02:01 PM
Graham did much better imo. I hope this debate doesn't effect Conley negatively.

scandinaviany3
10-12-2008, 02:15 PM
Way to go Bob!

Home RUN for south Carolinian's viewpoints!!

Love that 401k going to 201k and now 101k quote!

Idiot graham on education being the solution..love it...talk about putting yourself under the bus!

Cant wait to see the polls...:p:p:p:p

Time to dump serious money into bob's campaign

If we take out john mccains campaign chairman...that will change the venue and the republican party and send a super message

angelatc
10-12-2008, 02:24 PM
Another forum I frequent seemed to really like Conley.

scandinaviany3
10-12-2008, 02:44 PM
where are the best polls for SC?

:)

qh4dotcom
10-13-2008, 01:25 AM
I think Conley did very well...maybe he should have brought up his opponent's voting record more...and the closing statement was awesome....it has inspired me to send him a donation

Knightskye
10-13-2008, 01:54 AM
I'm just glad he didn't wear his sunglasses. :D

Did Graham really say, "Let's repeal the income tax first" at 13:41? Hahaha. I had to replay that part over and over. It was fun hearing it.

revolutionary8
10-13-2008, 02:57 AM
Thanks for the vids, even though I feel like punching a wall every time I hear or see LG. lol
@ 27:27
Conley says “We need to audit the Fed”

@ 28 or so,
Graham tries to tell us that his “dearest friend McCain “warned us in back in 2006 about Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac. " He actually Said “we need to bring a bill to the floor that will regulate Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac”. Dear gawd help us.
THE FED needs to be regulated!!!

I will refer Dick Graham to this Bill:


Congressman Ron Paul
U.S. House of Representatives
July 16, 2002

Mr. Speaker, I rise to introduce the Free Housing Market Enhancement Act. This legislation restores a free market in housing by repealing special privileges for housing-related government sponsored enterprises (GSEs). These entities are the Federal National Mortgage Association (Fannie), the Federal Home Loan Mortgage Corporation (Freddie), and the National Home Loan Bank Board (HLBB). According to the Congressional Budget Office, the housing-related GSEs received $13.6 billion worth of indirect federal subsidies in fiscal year 2000 alone.

One of the major government privileges granted these GSEs is a line of credit to the United States Treasury. According to some estimates, the line of credit may be worth over $2 billion. This explicit promise by the Treasury to bail out these GSEs in times of economic difficulty helps them attract investors who are willing to settle for lower yields than they would demand in the absence of the subsidy. Thus, the line of credit distorts the allocation of capital. More importantly, the line of credit is a promise on behalf of the government to engage in a massive unconstitutional and immoral income transfer from working Americans to holders of GSE debt.

The Free Housing Market Enhancement Act also repeals the explicit grant of legal authority given to the Federal Reserve to purchase the debt of housing-related GSEs. GSEs are the only institutions besides the United States Treasury granted explicit statutory authority to monetize their debt through the Federal Reserve. This provision gives the GSEs a source of liquidity unavailable to their competitors.

Ironically, by transferring the risk of a widespread mortgage default, the government increases the likelihood of a painful crash in the housing market. This is because the special privileges of Fannie, Freddie, and HLBB have distorted the housing market by allowing them to attract capital they could not attract under pure market conditions. As a result, capital is diverted from its most productive use into housing. This reduces the efficacy of the entire market and thus reduces the standard of living of all Americans.

However, despite the long-term damage to the economy inflicted by the government’s interference in the housing market, the government’s policies of diverting capital to other uses creates a short-term boom in housing. Like all artificially-created bubbles, the boom in housing prices cannot last forever. When housing prices fall, homeowners will experience difficulty as their equity is wiped out. Furthermore, the holders of the mortgage debt will also have a loss. These losses will be greater than they would have otherwise been had government policy not actively encouraged over-investment in housing.

Perhaps the Federal Reserve can stave off the day of reckoning by purchasing GSE debt and pumping liquidity into the housing market, but this cannot hold off the inevitable drop in the housing market forever. In fact, postponing the necessary but painful market corrections will only deepen the inevitable fall. The more people invested in the market, the greater the effects across the economy when the bubble bursts.

No less an authority than Federal Reserve Chairman Alan Greenspan has expressed concern that government subsidies provided to the GSEs make investors underestimate the risk of investing in Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac.

Mr. Speaker, it is time for Congress to act to remove taxpayer support from the housing GSEs before the bubble bursts and taxpayers are once again forced to bail out investors misled by foolish government interference in the market. I therefore hope my colleagues will stand up for American taxpayers and investors by cosponsoring the Free Housing Market Enhancement Act.

http://www.house.gov/paul/congrec/congrec2002/cr071602.htm

Congratulations to Conley for not pulling a Chuck Norris Roundhouse on that little punk. :D
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pacelli
10-13-2008, 08:11 AM
Thanks for the link to the video. Graham shot himself in the foot. Is there a more stable source for the video of the debate? The audio keeps jumping around.

On Iraq--

"We know you've been there Lindsay, we saw the rugs you bought."

Just wow! Go Conley!!