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JohnJay
10-10-2008, 08:09 PM
"A legislative committee's investigation concludes GOP VP nominee Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin unlawfully abused her authority "

This may be too much abuse for even John McCain to take. . .

torchbearer
10-10-2008, 08:13 PM
Wasn't McCain involved in Iran-Contra? Keating 5?
He probably thinks she's minor league compared to his mantle.

anaconda
10-10-2008, 08:22 PM
This may be part of a recent plan. but I doubt it. She "fires up the base." Gag me..

Join The Paul Side
10-10-2008, 08:24 PM
I think the Republicans should dump them both. They are making a mockery of this country. :cool:

torchbearer
10-10-2008, 08:28 PM
I think the Republicans should dump them both. They are making a mockery of this country. :cool:

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The GOP is making a mockery of our country. Did you see the RNC?

devil21
10-10-2008, 08:28 PM
Its too late. What sliver of hope McCain still has would be destroyed if he suddenly dropped Palin.

anaconda
10-10-2008, 08:59 PM
Its too late. What sliver of hope McCain still has would be destroyed if he suddenly dropped Palin.


Yes. But weirder things have happened. He might be able to make lightning strike twice. What if he picked up Hillary, for example?

Conza88
10-10-2008, 09:53 PM
http://www.lewrockwell.com/blog/lewrw/archives/023452.html

Its bullshit. Stop believing in the MSM. Question everything.

anaconda
10-10-2008, 09:57 PM
"A legislative committee's investigation concludes GOP VP nominee Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin unlawfully abused her authority "


Can anyone explain why a "legislative" body is doing the inquiry? Shouldn't a judge be looking at it or a law enforcement branch?

torchbearer
10-10-2008, 09:58 PM
Can anyone explain why a "legislative" body is doing the inquiry? Shouldn't a judge be looking at it or a law enforcement branch?

The house would do the impeachment investigation.
So its not unheard of...

libertarian4321
10-11-2008, 12:51 AM
Palin and McWar are claiming the legislative committee that prepared the report was "partisan".

Their WHINING rings a little hollow when you realize that the committee was OVERWHELMINGLY REPUBLICAN (10 to 4).

EndTheFed
10-11-2008, 12:58 AM
Well Hell yes it was partisan... The head of it is an outspoken obama supporter..

The report found that she was within her authority to fire him.

The only thing they could even come close to making stick the that she did not keep todd from talking to people.. so in effect they are saying the only thing she did wrong was not stopping him from talking to people.

the guy admits NOONE told him to fire the guy that should have been fired.
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This is just stupid.

anaconda
10-11-2008, 03:21 AM
It just occurred to me that she might resign "on her own." That way McDork saves face. Sort of. She doesn't have to admit any wrongdoing. Just that she doesn't want to "distract" from the campaign.

tonesforjonesbones
10-11-2008, 06:46 AM
endthefed...we are dealing with a bunch of democrats on this forum..I have come to the conclusion the only ones left on here are liberal loons..and I've about had enough. All the conservatives who posted here must have been run off. When Sarah Palin was first selected...there were about 6 people who were regular posters who were very excited..but these socialist shills on here managed to run them off. I think you and I are the only Ron Paul Republicans left on here. If you notice, they NEVER bring up Obama's thug friends like Bill ayers, Farakkahan, Wright, and the other muslim terrorist he PALLED around with. I am waiting for my ban any day now...I am a TRUE lover of Liberty..and I will always love Ron Paul and spread the Liberty message, but I'm finding I don't resonate with many of the socialists on this forum. I think you and I are the only ones left on here that are not Obama trolls. 99% of these folks will probably close the curtain on election day and pull the lever for Obama. Sad but true. tones

tonesforjonesbones
10-11-2008, 07:04 AM
In case ya'll didn't bother to click the link provided by Conza..here it is spelled out from LEW ROCKWELL! tones

October 10, 2008
Media Misstating Palin Report
Posted by James Ostrowski at October 10, 2008 09:51 PM

After hearing on the Obama Infomercial Network (MSNBC) that a bipartisan legislative committee in Alaska found Sarah Palin guilty of abuse of power, I thought I would check it out for myself. I have some expertise in this area of unlawful behavior by government officials concerning public employees.

Well, as far as I can tell, and this is breaking fast, there is no legislative finding whatsoever! In fact, the report itself recommends only some legislative changes and no penalties or sanctions that I can find.

There is a report by a lawyer named Stephen Branchflower. A committee voted to release the report but took no further action.

The gulf between what the MSM is saying about this and what actually happened is huge. It makes you wonder what else they are fibbing about.

Update: The legislature doesn't appear to have any jurisdiction over the ethics code. The Attorney General and Personnel Board do have such jurisdiction. There is a bar on acting on complaints against a governor who is running for re-election.

The legislature can impeach but that must start in the Senate. The group that commissioned this report is made up of state senators and house members.

If I was Palin's lawyer, I'd be thinking due process violations. I can say with near certainty that no competent body has found any violations by Palin.

Again, my primary concern here is to warn readers to be very skeptical in these troubled times about what the MSM is trying to sell them.

moostraks
10-11-2008, 07:53 AM
endthefed...we are dealing with a bunch of democrats on this forum..I have come to the conclusion the only ones left on here are liberal loons..and I've about had enough. All the conservatives who posted here must have been run off. When Sarah Palin was first selected...there were about 6 people who were regular posters who were very excited..but these socialist shills on here managed to run them off. I think you and I are the only Ron Paul Republicans left on here. If you notice, they NEVER bring up Obama's thug friends like Bill ayers, Farakkahan, Wright, and the other muslim terrorist he PALLED around with. I am waiting for my ban any day now...I am a TRUE lover of Liberty..and I will always love Ron Paul and spread the Liberty message, but I'm finding I don't resonate with many of the socialists on this forum. I think you and I are the only ones left on here that are not Obama trolls. 99% of these folks will probably close the curtain on election day and pull the lever for Obama. Sad but true. tones

You are very rude and *ass*uming...Glad to see you are toting the neo-con water for dear Sarah. The reason noone plays with you or end is because you immediately jump to the Palin/McCain defense with FOX talking points and then say we are irrational:rolleyes:

The Paul tent was a large tent, it sucks that you two can't make anyone march to your perceived views of what's right for America. Just because people disagree with you does not a) make them socialist but that's a handy derogatory term FOX has taught its viewers to demonize their opposition with or b)Obama supporters which is also a classic FOX response.

You would have to be blind as a bat to not see a majority are voting third party here. Henceforth the blow up over Barr and Baldwin that was finally cooled by the current economic crisis which diverted our attention. So your agenda with this fallacious post would be???

You know, we have a pretty thick skin here. Maybe you might want to think of sticking to what liberty views you might have in commonality here? Your us against them mentality justs paints you as a shrill harpy and gets you ignored before anything you may have of value is stated...

FWIW I am a Baldwin supporter. I would take a picture of the screen for you when I vote but I believe you would say I photoshopped it.(And frankly its none of your damn business who someone votes for). I would relish Palin's being called out for her taking liberties with her priviledges if the situation is as some have described it. Why is it so hard to believe someone would :eek: abuse their power??? Especially someone picked by McCain to be his running mate???As for using Obama's associations to minimize Palin's abuse of power-that's an illogical argument meant to distract....FOCUS. Argue the situation on the merits of her sterling character exemplified by her healthy, happy home and family . You know,the focus of her life before she ditched them for her recent career in politics...Oh crap! You are screwed....

angelatc
10-11-2008, 07:56 AM
"A legislative committee's investigation concludes GOP VP nominee Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin unlawfully abused her authority "

This may be too much abuse for even John McCain to take. . .

No Palin is not going anywhere. Except back to Alaska after the election is over.

The conclusion is what it is, but i don't really care about it. If the situation was reversed, and she had insisted that the lout remain employed, she'd be getting flack over that too.

If I were governor I would have fired him too.

angelatc
10-11-2008, 07:58 AM
http://www.lewrockwell.com/blog/lewrw/archives/023452.html

Its bullshit. Stop believing in the MSM. Question everything.

Palin agreed to let the committee have a go at it, though.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080919/ap_on_el_pr/palin_troopergate


Palin initially promised to cooperate in the investigation, telling the Legislature to "hold me accountable." Lawmakers were investigating accusations she dismissed the state's public safety commissioner because he refused to fire her ex-brother-in-law, a state trooper. She now opposes the investigation.

tonesforjonesbones
10-11-2008, 07:59 AM
Moo...the only folks I see criticized on this forum are McCain and Palin...that is what has lead me to my conclusions. It's very obvious. McCain = BAD Obama = GOOD...yeah..ok. tones

angelatc
10-11-2008, 08:00 AM
endthefed...we are dealing with a bunch of democrats on this forum..I have come to the conclusion the only ones left on here are liberal loons..and I've about had enough. All the conservatives who posted here must have been run off. When Sarah Palin was first selected...there were about 6 people who were regular posters who were very excited..but these socialist shills on here managed to run them off. I think you and I are the only Ron Paul Republicans left on here. If you notice, they NEVER bring up Obama's thug friends like Bill ayers, Farakkahan, Wright, and the other muslim terrorist he PALLED around with. I am waiting for my ban any day now...I am a TRUE lover of Liberty..and I will always love Ron Paul and spread the Liberty message, but I'm finding I don't resonate with many of the socialists on this forum. I think you and I are the only ones left on here that are not Obama trolls. 99% of these folks will probably close the curtain on election day and pull the lever for Obama. Sad but true. tones


Hi ho, hi ho

to my ignore list you go...

You're nothing important if you can't think out of the narrow mined box. Fuck you and your precious McCain.

angelatc
10-11-2008, 08:12 AM
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/7662820.stm


The report concluded a family grudge was not the sole reason for the dismissal, but was a likely contributing factor.

However, the report said that the actual sacking of Mr Monegan was not beyond Mrs Palin's legal powers.

Like I said, I would have fired him too. The cop was an ass, and Monegon had no good reason not to fire him. I'd feel differently if the cop was just a hard working Joe, but he is a power-happy moron.

angelatc
10-11-2008, 08:21 AM
"The only thing they could even come close to making stick the that she did not keep todd from talking to people."

And as a citizen he has every right to petition the government with his grievances, so in my world that's a non-issue.

Christ, Hillary ran on a platform with a plank that used included the very same level of involvement as evidence of her executive experience.

Sandra
10-11-2008, 08:28 AM
"The only thing they could even come close to making stick the that she did not keep todd from talking to people."

And as a citizen he has every right to petition the government with his grievances, so in my world that's a non-issue.

Christ, Hillary ran on a platform with a plank that used included the very same level of involvement as evidence of her executive experience.

Instead of going through proper channels, Palin allowed and even encouragerd her SPOUSE to misuse her office. This was her first act as governor. What does this say about her in your face willingness to abuse her office? THIS WAS HER FIRST ACT AS GOVERNOR! BE AFRAID!!!!!!

tonesforjonesbones
10-11-2008, 08:35 AM
Oh come on...so it's ok that the trooper tazed a 12 year old boy?(his stepson) but it's BADDDDD that Palin wanted him fired? Why didn't the fellow in charge fire the guy for HIS misconduct..drinking beer in his patrol car...shooting moose on duty..beating Palin's sister.. What's wrong with you people? TONES

moostraks
10-11-2008, 08:58 AM
Moo...the only folks I see criticized on this forum are McCain and Palin...that is what has lead me to my conclusions. It's very obvious. McCain = BAD Obama = GOOD...yeah..ok. tones

bull crap...try a search every once and awhile before spouting off. There is no love loss by many for either one of these two(one) party nominees and several of the third party candidates. Glad to see you systematically ignored the riot that Barr caused recently when he ignored Dr.Paul. Geesh, guess we were all just duping you when we argued vehemently for Baldwin or for Barr. Your right!!We are all going to vote Obama and we are just trying to trick you and the rest of the"TRUE liberty lovers".

You are acting like a spoiled two year old because we think McCain and his little girl Palin are not to be trusted...I don't like Barr either. He respects only those from mainstream religion. Obama turned me off with his partial birth abortion support. I have my reasons and I am not a damn socialist or an Obama supporter. I have been here for a long time and I post rather consistently. If you can't be respectful to other peoples choices how much of a liberty lover are you really??? Resorting to name calling and misconstruing people's intentions are not respect btw.

moostraks
10-11-2008, 09:08 AM
Oh come on...so it's ok that the trooper tazed a 12 year old boy?(his stepson) but it's BADDDDD that Palin wanted him fired? Why didn't the fellow in charge fire the guy for HIS misconduct..drinking beer in his patrol car...shooting moose on duty..beating Palin's sister.. What's wrong with you people? TONES

Wow..so because one person did one action allows another person the right to act in a manner which is abusive of her office of power??? Two wrongs do not make a right.

The question is not one of whether the guy was a bastard and should have been fired but rather whether she abused her authority in the way the case was handled. People with a conscience and a respect for liberty should be concerned with both aspects. There is a right and a wrong way to achieve a solution to the problem. If she did achieve the result by attacking the problem the wrong way she should be punished for her misconduct.

D.H.
10-11-2008, 09:23 AM
"If you can't be respectful to other peoples choices how much of a liberty lover are you really??? Resorting to name calling and misconstruing people's intentions are not respect btw"

Excellent point moostraks. I've noticed that here too by some and I don't get it.

RE: Lew Rockwell article; if the Attorney general and Personnell Board are the only ones that can go forward and pursue the abuse of power finding, I feel strongly nothing will be done. She appoints the personnel board and the Atty Gen is her friend.

(From NY Times article that found that the Wasilla High school yearbook doubles as a directory for state gov't - the atty general is a virtual unknown in the legal community - he owes her big time for this job)

Ms. Palin chose Talis Colberg, a borough assemblyman from the Matanuska valley, as her attorney general, provoking a bewildered question from the legal community: “Who?” Mr. Colberg, who did not return calls, moved from a one-room building in the valley to one of the most powerful offices in the state, supervising some 500 people.

“I called him and asked, ‘Do you know how to supervise people?’ ” said a family friend, Kathy Wells. “He said, ‘No, but I think I’ll get some help.’ ”

The Wasilla High School yearbook archive now doubles as a veritable directory of state government. Ms. Palin appointed Mr. Bitney, her former junior high school band-mate, as her legislative director and chose another classmate, Joe Austerman, to manage the economic development office for $82,908 a year. Mr. Austerman had established an Alaska franchise for Mailboxes Etc.

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/09/14/us/politics/14palin.html?pagewanted=print

zach
10-11-2008, 11:42 AM
I'm not choosing McCain, and I'm not choosing Obama.

VP pick is irrelevant, and attitude means nothing.

Same crap, different piles.

anaconda
10-12-2008, 12:04 AM
Moo...the only folks I see criticized on this forum are McCain and Palin...that is what has lead me to my conclusions. It's very obvious. McCain = BAD Obama = GOOD...yeah..ok. tones

McCain = Obama = BOTH BAD