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lonestarguy
05-29-2007, 10:15 AM
While I have great respect for her, I would counsel keeping Cindy Sheehan at arms length for now. The main stream media echo chamber would tar RP with negative effect and divert attention from RP's message. Lets let RP get his message out in the debates and his many appearances, tv and radio and print, while the grassroots work locally thru such organizatios as www.ronpaul.meetup.com/ etc, etc.

Minuteman2008
05-29-2007, 10:16 AM
I hate to tell you this, but any endorsement from Cindy Sheehan would immediately snuff out any chance Paul had to win the Republican nomination. If you wanted some way to make absolutely sure that he had no chance whatsoever to win the nomination, then having his name associated with Cindy SHeehan would be the perfect way to do it.

cdigi
05-29-2007, 10:19 AM
I hate to tell you this, but any endorsement from Cindy Sheehan would immediately snuff out any chance Paul had to win the Republican nomination. If you wanted some way to make absolutely sure that he had no chance whatsoever to win the nomination, then having his name associated with Cindy SHeehan would be the perfect way to do it.

I would have to agree.

aravoth
05-29-2007, 10:20 AM
I'm not so sure thats a good idea. Sheehan isn't looked too highly upon by the republican base, and thats who we need voting for him in the primaries. Alot of folks on the right look at Cindy Sheehan as a crack.

hambone1982
05-29-2007, 10:25 AM
That's the first thing I thought when I heard Cindy Sheehan was "giving up."

Then I thought, who are the people we're trying to win over here? The obvious answer is Republican voters who will vote in the primary. Most of these Republican voters listen to Rush and Hannity who have been making Cindy Sheehan out to be a wack job for the last few years. Going out with the purpose of winning an endorcement from Cindy Sheehan might be shooting ourselves in the foot.

I think we have to convince these Republican voters over to our side on issues that we know we hold in common - like immigration, smaller government, lowering and eliminating income taxes.

I also think that we should point out to these voters that 70% of the American people want us out of Iraq and Ron Paul is the only Republican that could beat a Democrat in the General Election. Convince them that voting for any other Republican is a vote for Hillary or Obama.

sidsquidrick
05-29-2007, 10:25 AM
I don't think you heard...Ron Paul is running for the REPUBLICAN nomination. Like mentioned above, Cindy will destroy Ron chance at getting support from the right. The right does not like her, in fact they hate her, they ridicule her, and they don't want to hear her.

I am not saying this is 'right', I am just stating the facts. Though his anti-war message is powerful but don't forget that probably everything else Ron stands for Cindy doesn't. It is good to mearge the parties to get someone elected, but we have understand who we are as a party. We can always agree to disagree but we are dreaming if we think that the majority of the republican party is going to temporarily forget thier biases to get Ron Paul elected.

In fact, it is just the opposite. People generally don't like change, so if you are trying to sell the idea, you have to do it in a way that is very comfortable. VERY COMFORTABLE. The the endorsements of a few very liberal democrates wont make the republican base comfortable. It will instead act as the PRIMARY REASON they wont "change".

Sid

angelatc
05-29-2007, 10:26 AM
For Cindy's sake, I think we need to leave Cindy alone right now. She has just come to the brutal realization that both parties are corrupt, and that she was indeed a puppet for the party she believed in.

Not to mention she's bankrupt, divorced, her son is dead and her mission has failed. I feel for her.

From her first announcement:

"The Camp Casey Peace Institute is calling all citizens who are as disgusted as we are with you all to join us in Philadelphia on July 4th to try and figure a way out of this “two” party system that is bought and paid for by the war machine which has a stranglehold on every aspect of our lives."

That's where people should be spreading the Ron Paul word.

lucky
05-29-2007, 10:26 AM
Cindy Sheehan would be a nail in the coffin. I accepted her aniti war stance as anyone should be able to do so. Even accepted her tirades and name calling of Bush but when she went to Venezuela and did what she did was very wrong. Even her resignation letter she said she hated America. If she mentions Ron Pauls name he is dead in the water.

sidsquidrick
05-29-2007, 10:29 AM
Though i am a big fan of Ron's foreign policy ideoligy, I want to clarify my last point.

Waromongers, control the Republican party. CONTROL IT.

We need to be carful how we present this message to the Republican party. They will resist it if it sounds just like anything else they can read on moveon.org.

There are several other issue that make up Ron Paul's strengths. No taxes, no welfare, no illegal immigration, etc.
I beleive that the Iraq war will be the most important issue to voters in Nov 08, but untill then, it in order to catch the attention of the republican base, we will have to appeal more to their organic interests.

Bradley in DC
05-29-2007, 10:41 AM
If she wants to endorse him, there is nothing we could do. That said, it would be a horrible idea in the primary race for the Republican nomination. Someone dust off this idea after Dr. Paul is the party nominee running against Hillary in the general election!

MsDoodahs
05-29-2007, 11:00 AM
A resounding NO to any Sheehan endorsement prior to the primary elections.

Like someone else said, AFTER the primary election once Ron is the GOP nominee, sure.

Prior to the primaries, though, an endorsement from her would be a bad thing.

RonPaul4President
05-29-2007, 11:02 AM
I just read this article (http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070529/ap_on_re_us/cindy_sheehan) on Cindy Sheehan giving up on her cause and handing the reins to the American People. If Ron Paul could get Cindy Sheehan's endorsement, it would bring a LOT of anti-corrupt-foreign-policy(aka WARMONGERS) supporters on board. Does anyone have ties to the Cindy Sheehan movement that could ring the bell for Ron Paul in their midst? It seems to me that Ron Paul and Cindy Sheehan are on the same page when it comes to war and foreign policy.

ksuguy
05-29-2007, 12:17 PM
I think having her endorse Ron would do far more harm than good. I would rather see her stay far away.

I feel bad for the lady since her son was killed, but she is way the hell out in crazy land. Just look at the way she was kissing the ass of Hugo Chavez.

ronpaulitician
05-29-2007, 01:15 PM
Even if her endorsement would help Ron Paul, I think she's made it pretty clear that she wants to be left alone right now.

Brandybuck
05-29-2007, 01:33 PM
Cindy Sheehan let herself be used by radical leftists. Either she is extremely naive, or she agrees with them on their big government agenda. Either way she would not be a good fit with the Ron Paul campaign. She has an awful lot of negative baggage. IMHO.

austinphish
05-29-2007, 01:42 PM
No Cindy Sheehan - People please realize Ron Paul has to win the REPUBLICAN primary first!!!! No matter how open minded Republicans are, I guarantee most find Sheehan repulsive.

MsDoodahs
05-29-2007, 02:20 PM
I feel very sorry for her.

She said she wants some time to recover from what she's been through.

I think she deserves that time.

dude58677
07-08-2007, 07:13 PM
This would help us tremendously. She'll love his non-intervention foreign policy.

axiomata
07-08-2007, 07:14 PM
I'll take her vote, but not her mouth.

LibertyEagle
07-08-2007, 07:17 PM
I don't suggest pushing this.... Republicans as a general rule cannot stand Cindy Sheehan.

Maybe after we win the Republican nomination. I don't think it would serve us well before then.

pazzo83
07-08-2007, 07:18 PM
Uh she supports Hugo Chavez, and by extension socialism and autocracy. NO THANKS.

ratsbew
07-08-2007, 07:18 PM
Are you crazy? Cindy Sheehan? That lady is a moron and a trator.

Akus
07-08-2007, 07:18 PM
NO!

Seriously if this man's victory is of any meaning to you, we shouldn't. She is a nut. And by associating with her, Ron Paul will look like a nut. I am all for having anti-war activists promoting him, but not bomb-throwing militant liberals.

Seriosly WTF?

UtahApocalypse
07-08-2007, 07:18 PM
Only if we don't want the nomination would this work.

kylejack
07-08-2007, 07:19 PM
This would help us tremendously. She'll love his non-intervention foreign policy.

Hey dude58677, I'm not sure if you've noticed but we're trying to get the Republican nomination for President. So yeah, HELL NO, to this idea.

cajuncocoa
07-08-2007, 07:20 PM
Didn't we discuss this just a few days ago?

Alabama Supporter
07-08-2007, 07:21 PM
NO!

I do respect her and her message, but her endorsement would be political suicide in the Republican primary.

walt
07-08-2007, 07:21 PM
Get a clue.

Getting people to support Ron is not about endorsements. It's about *you* and others influencing others and repeating the process.

P.S. This isn't news. Please lock this thread.

Scribbler de Stebbing
07-08-2007, 07:21 PM
No. If we're going for the GOP nomination, we don't need Cindy Sheehan, or Rosie O'donnel or Michael Moore. We need John Stossel, and Clint Eastwood, and Alaska's governor, and Lou Dobbs and some other fairly respectable folks.

Sorry. I hate to dash people's ideas, but you have to look at it from the GOP perspective. If he were running as a Democrat, perhaps.

DjLoTi
07-08-2007, 07:21 PM
I don't even know who she is . . . . :-/

FreedomLover
07-08-2007, 07:23 PM
O hell to the naw.

gregp701
07-08-2007, 07:24 PM
No. If we're going for the GOP nomination, we don't need Cindy Sheehan, or Rosie O'donnel or Michael Moore. We need John Stossel, and Clint Eastwood, and Alaska's governor, and Lou Dobbs and some other fairly respectable folks.

Sorry. I hate to dash people's ideas, but you have to look at it from the GOP perspective. If he were running as a Democrat, perhaps.I totally agree. I do believe however that the bigger the tent, the better once Dr.Paul does get the nomination. The dynamics will change at that point.

dude58677
07-08-2007, 07:25 PM
Bad idea, I didn't think it through.

angrydragon
07-08-2007, 07:27 PM
NO!

dude58677
07-08-2007, 07:28 PM
NO!

Look you are right, I won't mention it again.

FreedomLover
07-08-2007, 07:30 PM
lol, its alright.

lets just delete this thread and pretend it never happened. :cool:

SeanEdwards
07-08-2007, 07:31 PM
This would help us tremendously. She'll love his non-intervention foreign policy.

Absolutely! But only if she digs up the rotting corpse of her son and drags it with her to campaign rallies as a stage prop.

DjLoTi
07-08-2007, 07:32 PM
.

O man.. no need for violence. ...

Man from La Mancha
07-08-2007, 07:39 PM
Did I miss something? I thought Paul says we need to be a broad coalition of different groups of people sharing the message of freedom. Why would any be excluded if they want to help? They say bad PR is as good as good PR. All people have do is start looking at Paul for whatever reason good or bad and they will decide for themselves. Paul can sell himself.

kylejack
07-08-2007, 07:40 PM
Did I miss something? I thought Paul says we need to be a broad coalition of different groups of people sharing the message of freedom. Why would any be excluded if they want to help? They say bad PR is as good as good PR. All people have do is start looking at Paul for whatever reason good or bad and they will decide for themselves. Paul can sell himself.

Why would any be excluded if they want to help? Well, maybe because their help wouldn't help.

Bryan
07-08-2007, 07:42 PM
This is a duplicate subject, threads were merged.

Man from La Mancha
07-08-2007, 07:47 PM
Why would any be excluded if they want to help? Well, maybe because their help wouldn't help.

How do you know? Can I get that crystal ball you have I want to buy some stock?:)

TurtleBurger
07-08-2007, 07:53 PM
My guess is most the people who hate Cindy Sheehan already hate Ron Paul as well. I doubt getting her involved would hurt much.

alaric
07-08-2007, 07:56 PM
No. If we're going for the GOP nomination, we don't need Cindy Sheehan, or Rosie O'donnel or Michael Moore. We need John Stossel, and Clint Eastwood, and Alaska's governor, and Lou Dobbs and some other fairly respectable folks.

Sorry. I hate to dash people's ideas, but you have to look at it from the GOP perspective. If he were running as a Democrat, perhaps.

these are good people to go for. sure wish we could get keith olbermann to have him on. i know he likes ron paul, but is told to shut up about it.

how about tom selleck or bruce willis?