2010 Senate Elections

[nate895]

Retiring Senators:

Sam Brownback (R) of Kansas- Good opportunity if we can get a good candidate


Possible retiring Senators

Bob Bennett (R) of Utah-If retiring, a decent chance to pick up a seat
Chuck Grassley (R) of Iowa-Possible
Daniel Inouye (D) of Hawaii-Not in a million years
Patrick Leahy (D) of Vermont-I don't know much about Vermont politics, but they did elect a socialist, so I'm going with "not likely."
John McCain (R) of Arizona-This would be fun, even if McCain decides to stay in, I want Barry Goldwater, Jr. to challenge the seat to reclaim its glory, if only for a term
Barbara Mikulski (D) of Maryland-Not likely
Roland Burris (D) of Illinois-Go for either way
Richard Shelby (R) of Alabama-""
Evan Bayh (D) of Indiana-""
Byron Dorgan (D) of North Dakota-Lots of popular people want it, so probably not a good idea
Judd Gregg (R) of New Hampshire-Go for it
David Vitter (R) of Louisiana-Not sure if it's a good idea or not
John Thune (R) of South Dakota-Probably won't be open, so probably not a fertile place to run

Democratic Incumbent Races

Blanche Lincoln (D) of Arkansas-Not vulnerable at all, unless the Huckster goes for it
Barbara Boxer (D) of California-Since she is liberal, it might be a good place to get an RP Republican to work turning the Golden State red
Christopher Dodd (D) of Connecticut-Probably not a shot to pick this one up
Harry Reid (D) of Nevada-He's vulnerable, and the nomination is possibly winnable if a popular Republican doesn't step up
Ken Salazar (D) of Colorado-Might be a good place, I don't know really
Chuck Schumer (D) of New York-To unseat Schumer would be to throw the Cosmos into disarray, you might as well try to throw the Earth out of orbit around the Sun
Ron Wyden (D) of Oregon-Probably not, but it might be worthwhile to give it a shot
Patty Murray (D) of Washington-Good place to run, especially if Dino Rossi wins the Gubernatorial Race
Russ Feingold (D) of Wisconsin-Not a good idea to waste money against this hater of free speech

Republican Incumbent Races-All not marked aren't winnable

Lisa Murkowski (R) of Alaska
Mel Martinez (R) of Florida
Johnny Isakson (R) of Georgia
Mike Crapo (R) of Idaho
Jim Bunning (R) of Kentucky
Richard Burr (R) of North Carolina
George Voinovich (R) of Ohio
Tom Coburn (R) of Oklahoma
Arlen Specter (R) of Pennsylvania-He's ailing, don't mention that, but the voters will know, and conservatives don't like him much anyway
Jim DeMint (R) of South Carolina
Kit Bond (R) of Missouri

We need to find candidates for these offices and start raising money when this campaign is over.

[BarryDonegan]

Retiring Senators:

Sam Brownback (R) of Kansas- Good opportunity if we can get a good candidate


I hate to say this... but didn't he vote NO on the bailout?

I'm not saying vote for the guy, but maybe run a libertarian against him, and if it doesn't work, oh well.... i wouldn't go supporting a random democrat to anti-incumbent him.

his no vote on the bail out makes me think its time for KS citizens to start a PAC and get ON him. show him that the same laws that are used to fight the war on drugs, justify intervention into the religious community. make a paleoconservative/libertarian conservative out of him by persuasion... do some work for him so that he relies on you.

[nate895]

I hate to say this... but didn't he vote NO on the bailout?

I'm not saying vote for the guy, but maybe run a libertarian against him, and if it doesn't work, oh well.... i wouldn't go supporting a random democrat to anti-incumbent him.

his no vote on the bail out makes me think its time for KS citizens to start a PAC and get ON him. show him that the same laws that are used to fight the war on drugs, justify intervention into the religious community. make a paleoconservative/libertarian conservative out of him by persuasion... do some work for him so that he relies on you.

He is retiring, you can't vote for him, I made sure to change the one Senator who is Republican who voted "No" on the bailout and is staying to "unwinnable."

[BarryDonegan]

i take that back then, hahaha.

[BarryDonegan]

in the spirit of personal responsibility, we need to spread amongst our people the slogan, "your seat is your fault"


with regards to congress and the senate. most people do not vote on those races, we do not need to be like most people, we are ron paul supporters, we get the bigger picture.

[nate895]

in the spirit of personal responsibility, we need to spread amongst our people the slogan, "your seat is your fault"


with regards to congress and the senate. most people do not vote on those races, we do not need to be like most people, we are ron paul supporters, we get the bigger picture.

Those that vote in midterm election years are certain to vote on Congress and Senate races. Most people that do vote in any year, do vote for at least President, Senate, and Governor if they are on the ballot. The other races, most people who vote will vote for them, but much of those people are people who will vote for someone just because they have a D or an R next to their name. The only exceptions to that rule is President, Senate, and Governor, since they are high-profile races.

[nate895]

bump

[Bern]

You can add Kay Bailey Hutchinson (R - Texas) to the list of possibly retiring Senators (2012). She is eyeing a run for Governor.

http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcontent/dws/news/politics/national/stories/092608dntexhutchison.af692aba.html

[Kevin_Kennedy]

Ohio needs to get Voinovich out of there. I hope we get a good candidate to challenge him.

[nate895]

Ohio needs to get Voinovich out of there. I hope we get a good candidate to challenge him.

It isn't very likely that he'll retire, and it would be money better spent, IMO, on Democrat incumbent races and open seats.

[JaylieWoW]

Shelby of Alabama is a keeper. Voted against bailout AND spoke out strongly against it.

[nate895]

Shelby of Alabama is a keeper. Voted against bailout AND spoke out strongly against it.

If he retires, though, it would be good to get a Ron Paul Republican in there. He wouldn't be vulnerable anyway if he doesn't retire.

[westmich4paul]

Senator Carl Levin (d) Michigan is up for relelction and voted for the bailout plan. His challengers Jack Hoogendyk(r) and Scotty Boman (L)

We have a chance in Michgan to vote for Boman and put a Ron Paul supporting Libertarian into the Senate.

He has not been aloowed into the debates so he needs your donations to get the word out there.

www.boman08.com

[nate895]

Senator Carl Levin (d) Michigan is up for relelction and voted for the bailout plan. His challengers Jack Hoogendyk(r) and Scotty Boman (L)

We have a chance in Michgan to vote for Boman and put a Ron Paul supporting Libertarian into the Senate.

He has not been aloowed into the debates so he needs your donations to get the word out there.

www.boman08.com

I doubt Carl Levin will be unseated. We need to look past this election and focus on the few seats we have in our grasp this go around, but mostly 2010, 2012, and beyond.

[RPTXState]

It's speculated that Kay Bailey is going to run against Perry for Governor in '10. They'll have to hold a special election to fill her last two years (assuming she wins).

[nate895]

It's speculated that Kay Bailey is going to run against Perry for Governor in '10. They'll have to hold a special election to fill her last two years (assuming she wins).

If she wins, she'll appoint her successor. There would only be a special election if she resigned before the 2010 General Election.

[jabrownie]

I think voinovich of ohio is going to retire and congresswoman pryce from the 15th district will go for the spot. Just a hunch. Sadly, they both voted for the bailout.

[Voinovich is getting old (currently 72), and this next session pryce is not running again. If she did, she'd lose. She barely won last time around, and with all the new registrations in the columbus area due to obama targeting this portion of the state, not to mention the strong democratic feel of this election cycle, she'd get creamed, probably badly, which would spell the end of her political career. So, instead she's stepping aside for a year or two to 'spend time with family' (read protect potential future aspirations). She's the highest ranking female republican in the party (unless palin wins) so she's going to try to move up. Only spot upward is senate, they need a replacement for voinovich, and a congresswoman from the columbus region gives them a serious shot at maintaining the seat.]

[BarryDonegan]

i was very impressed by shelby.

[free.alive]

pm me after election day 2010 - Patty Murray (WA) is done.

free.alive

[free.alive]

pm me now. You must be down there working on Delavar's campaign. I'm working on Cloud's.

[american.swan]

Some posters seem to be saying keep senators who voted against the bailout. Why is that?

I will assume that if they voted against the bailout, it's because they listen more to their voters and are "less" controlled by the elite.

So in the short term, we can say, keep so and so because they voted against the bailout, but in the long run we need to fire the whole lot of them. They are NOT in line with our views in the slightest.

[nate895]

bump

[nate895]

bump

[jave27]

Some posters seem to be saying keep senators who voted against the bailout. Why is that?

It depends on *why* they voted against the bailout. Sure, some of them were just out for a re-election bid and sided with the majority this time, but I'm sure there are a few that "get it"... Although, I haven't been able to find one in either Michigan or Indiana yet... Stabenow voted against it, but she had a press release the week prior that was in favor of "some kind of bailout".. That was before the giant revolt against it, though.

[nate895]

It depends on *why* they voted against the bailout. Sure, some of them were just out for a re-election bid and sided with the majority this time, but I'm sure there are a few that "get it"... Although, I haven't been able to find one in either Michigan or Indiana yet... Stabenow voted against it, but she had a press release the week prior that was in favor of "some kind of bailout".. That was before the giant revolt against it, though.

I simply think that anti-bailout Senators should be low on the priority list. If we have the money to finance 5 viable Senate campaigns, and we have 6 possibly viable campaigns, but one would be running against an anti-bailout person, we should probably give to the other 5 since the other Senator will occasionally vote with us, while the others never do.

[nate895]

bump, Obama's seat is open in Illinois. I think a Ron Paul Republican might just be able to take it.

[RSLudlum]

I'd have to say we might want to keep DeMint. He's very fiscally conservative, very outspoken against the bailout and has even recently stated that we do need to reacess our 'policeman of the world' policy and consider closing foreign bases. I have to take a real good look at his voting record though.

[itshappening]

bump, Obama's seat is open in Illinois. I think a Ron Paul Republican might just be able to take it.

doubtful :/

[nate895]

doubtful :/

It is possible. A Republican held the seat before Obama held it, so it is possible for a Republican to win it back. Anyway, we should be able to get candidates in some of the other races.

[nate895]

bump

[newmedia4ron]

Senate
Replace McCain with Goldwater Jr. or Jeff Flake.

House
Ron Paul
B.J. Lawson
Gary Johnson
Judge Nap
Gary Johnson
Kinky Friedman (why not :) )

[Knightskye]

Should we be going after Republican senators, or Republicans and Democrats?

Or should we see how Obama does, and what his approval rating is?

Or just wherever there's a liberty-minded person running for Senate/House?

[RSLudlum]

Or just wherever there's a liberty-minded person running for Senate/House?

this

[scandinaviany3]

pm me after election day 2010 - Patty Murray (WA) is done.

free.alive

i would love to help dump her...and anyone else that voted for the biggest crime in american history..aka the bailout bill

:mad:

[nate895]

Should we be going after Republican senators, or Republicans and Democrats?

Or should we see how Obama does, and what his approval rating is?

Or just wherever there's a liberty-minded person running for Senate/House?

We should be going after whatever seats are vulnerable to a Republican challenger. Most Republican seats (with the exception of Arlen Specter's and possibly McCain's) aren't vulnerable to another GOP candidate, but seats with a retiring Senator, Republican or Democrat, and Democrat held seats in conservative or swing states are also vulnerable.

[nate895]

bump

[TastyWheat]

I've heard rumors of Kay Bailey Hutchison (TX-R) running for governor. I wish she would just drop off the face of the Earth though. I wouldn't want her as my CPA even!

[nate895]

I've heard rumors of Kay Bailey Hutchison (TX-R) running for governor. I wish she would just drop off the face of the Earth though. I wouldn't want her as my CPA even!

That is what I have heard too, that is why she is in possible retirement. I think we should get someone to run for her Senate seat should she run for Governor.

[Knightskye]

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB123033501646236333.html

Reid's already working on his campaign.

[scandinaviany3]

If he retires, though, it would be good to get a Ron Paul Republican in there. He wouldn't be vulnerable anyway if he doesn't retire.

probably judge roy moore is the logical one to push for the seat if possible

[scandinaviany3]

pm me now. You must be down there working on Delavar's campaign. I'm working on Cloud's.

Guys pm me on want to help on planning against murray

[Aratus]

fran dresser + caroline may negate each other out grandly, and if governor paterson now goes to no. 3 or 4 or 5 on his list...

picture how vulnerable the newbie may be in 2010 concerning the november election... http://www.ny.gov/governor/

[Knightskye]

fran dresser + caroline may negate each other out grandly

Watch, neither one gets appointed and then they start a TV show.

[Eric21ND]

This is the most important work we could be doing right now, looking ahead and planning, get people and infastructure in place and ready to come out the gate.

[tangent4ronpaul]

Those that vote in midterm election years are certain to vote on Congress and Senate races. Most people that do vote in any year, do vote for at least President, Senate, and Governor if they are on the ballot. The other races, most people who vote will vote for them, but much of those people are people who will vote for someone just because they have a D or an R next to their name. The only exceptions to that rule is President, Senate, and Governor, since they are high-profile races.

Winnable or not, how about running ANYBODY in the same party against the incumbant. That should be good enough to get into debates and on radio shows for educational purposes. If we did that for every House and Senate seat - we might even win a few. Spend no money, except perhaps on yard signs in front of the polling places the day of the primary election. Maybe choose people on the basis of their name being earlier in the alphabet or what the name looks like. ie: "Goodman" is a better choice than "Blackstone" and hope voters click those D's and R's for the one with the more pleasent sounding name or the first name they find.

Then focus major financial and other support on a handful of races that seem most likely to be won. Especially when a seat is opening up due to retirement.

-t

[nate895]

Winnable or not, how about running ANYBODY in the same party against the incumbant. That should be good enough to get into debates and on radio shows for educational purposes. If we did that for every House and Senate seat - we might even win a few. Spend no money, except perhaps on yard signs in front of the polling places the day of the primary election. Maybe choose people on the basis of their name being earlier in the alphabet or what the name looks like. ie: "Goodman" is a better choice than "Blackstone" and hope voters click those D's and R's for the one with the more pleasent sounding name or the first name they find.

Then focus major financial and other support on a handful of races that seem most likely to be won. Especially when a seat is opening up due to retirement.

-t

We should focus on open GOP seats, and weak Democrat incumbents.

My list:

Kansas, open GOP
Missouri, open GOP
Illinois, Burris (D)
Colorado, Bennet (D)
Washington, Murray (D)

Washington isn't considered weak, but it does have a strong Ron Paul movement that might just be able to elect somebody.

[Peace&Freedom]

Unless the incumbent has Blago or Stevens level problems, they aren't 'weak,' and can still kick the can out of any insurgent 10,000 times a week. Stick with the open seats created by retirements and raise at least $2 million for each Senate run, that's the cleanest opportunity. Add FL, as Jeb Bush said he won't run. We could otherwise run paper candidates in all Senate and House races, but unless one is careful that will actively diffuse focus on the higher percentage races.

[nate895]

Unless the incumbent has Blago or Stevens level problems, they aren't 'weak,' and can still kick the can out of any insurgent 10,000 times a week. Stick with the open seats created by retirements and raise at least $2 million for each Senate run, that's the cleanest opportunity. Add FL, as Jeb Bush said he won't run. We could otherwise run paper candidates in all Senate and House races, but unless one is careful that will actively diffuse focus on the higher percentage races.

I don't think we have the resources to go after Florida and much else.

All incumbents can be weakened in swing electorates. Challenger money is many times more effective than incumbent money, and Congress is almost sure to be unpopular as a whole next election.