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Anti Federalist
10-07-2008, 09:55 PM
Following up on some of the police state and martial law stories that have been posted, here's another glaring example of just who the enemy really is.

[We face] face new security challenges influenced by the effects of globalization, especially in failing states (like ours - AF) and in ungoverned areas.... Radicalism influenced by extremist ideologies (like liberty, peace and freedom - AF) and separatist movements (like the ones that are popping up in states all across the country - AF) will remain attractive to those who feel threatened and victimized by the cultural and economic impacts of globalization...."

Army Modernization Plan 2008 - front page

http://www.army.mil/institution/leaders/modplan/index.html

So, now, it appears that it is out in the open, our army is the spearhead for worldwide "globalization" efforts, otherwise know as the New World Order.

And, since most of us here are opposed to the "cultural and economic impacts of globalization", then it would seem that enemy is us.

nate895
10-07-2008, 09:58 PM
If they want to label me, go right ahead:

http://www.lewrockwell.com/rothbard/RothbardSecurity.jpg

Conza88
10-07-2008, 10:03 PM
Enemy of the State.

I take absolute pride in every single word.

Currently self-proclaimed, but eventually I hope to work towards recognition... in the toppling of this profound evil.

We're literally in the middle on amazingly "interesting times" accordingly to my socialist govt bus relations lecturer... [said with a smile, as he goes on to proclaim capitalism is failing]

We've all got to fight this esoteric agenda.. For it is a battle of ideas... A revolution of ideas; as Ron Paul has said.

We have truth on our side. Now is not the time to stand down; it is the time to stand up.

Edit: ^ above.. :D Yep, yep. :p

Indy Vidual
10-07-2008, 10:26 PM
I'm what Thomas Paine called a Sunshine Patriot or Summer Soldier. :o
I don't want to risk my life for a bunch of *semi-* and *unbelievably stupid* people (ie. the people who laughed at Ron Paul, or call us *Paultards*).
Normally, it's not a good idea to call people "stupid", so let's just say they were educated in publak scools.

I just want to be left alone...
Is there a moral obligation to fight for freedom?
Why?...
To help others? :confused:

Thomas Paine knew how to motivate the radicals; These days, you need the millions of Sunshine Patriots to succeed. How can we help you, without risking getting sent to FEMA camp?

ronpaulforprez2008
10-07-2008, 10:52 PM
And, since most of us here are opposed to the "cultural and economic impacts of globalization", then it would seem that enemy is us.

We've been the enemy since almost the beginning of time....this struggle has endured for thousands of years. I'm glad to see people finally seeing what has alway been. That's the first step toward corrective action.



During a "fireside chat" at Google's Mountain View, CA headquarters between CEO Eric Schmidt and Henry Kissinger, Henry subtly mentions (at minute 49:00 in the video) that the:

"new president will have unusual opportunity to construct a new international system........ it is a huge challenge, but it doesn't often happen in history that things are so fluid."

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_eM_z4vRxrA

TER
10-07-2008, 10:56 PM
Is there a moral obligation to fight for freedom?
Why?...
To help others? :confused:


Some would say that there is no true life without either freedom or love in helping others.

anaconda
10-07-2008, 11:05 PM
[We face] face new security challenges influenced by the effects of globalization, especially in failing states (like ours) and in ungoverned areas.... Radicalism influenced by extremist ideologies (like liberty, peace and freedom) and separatist movements (like the ones that are popping in in states all across the country) will remain attractive to those who feel threatened and victimized by the cultural and economic impacts of globalization...."


I'm not finding this passage on the site you linked to. Help?

The Good Doctor
10-07-2008, 11:07 PM
This is just fucked up.


Following up on some of the police state and martial law stories that have been posted, here's another glaring example of just who the enemy really is.

[We face] face new security challenges influenced by the effects of globalization, especially in failing states (like ours) and in ungoverned areas.... Radicalism influenced by extremist ideologies (like liberty, peace and freedom) and separatist movements (like the ones that are popping in in states all across the country) will remain attractive to those who feel threatened and victimized by the cultural and economic impacts of globalization...."

Army Modernization Plan 2008 - front page

http://www.army.mil/institution/leaders/modplan/index.html

So, now, it appears that it is out in the open, our army is the spearhead for worldwide "globalization" efforts, otherwise know as the New World Order.

And, since most of us here are opposed to the "cultural and economic impacts of globalization", then it would seem that enemy is us.

Anti Federalist
10-07-2008, 11:10 PM
I'm not finding this passage on the site you linked to. Help?

Scroll down on the page and link to the .pdf file marked:

Army Modernization Strategy 2008

pappy
10-07-2008, 11:11 PM
Hope at least a portion of the boys and girls in uniform haven't gone beyond the pale, and come back to the side of light when the shit goes down.

I happen to think some of them will(hopefully 30% or greater).

pappy

InterestedParticipant
10-07-2008, 11:20 PM
then it would seem that enemy is us.


"... when the struggle seems to be drifting definitely towards a world
social democracy, there may still be very great delays and disappointments
before it becomes an efficient and beneficent world system. Countless people ...
will hate the new world order ... and will die protesting against it. When we
attempt to evaluate its promise, we have to bear in mind the distress of a
generation or so of malcontents, many of them quite gallant and graceful-looking people."


H. G. Wells, in his book entitled The New World Order (1939)

GunnyFreedom
10-08-2008, 12:00 AM
Enemy of the State.

I take absolute pride in every single word.

Currently self-proclaimed, but eventually I hope to work towards recognition... in the toppling of this profound evil.

We're literally in the middle on amazingly "interesting times" accordingly to my socialist govt bus relations lecturer... [said with a smile, as he goes on to proclaim capitalism is failing]

We've all got to fight this esoteric agenda.. For it is a battle of ideas... A revolution of ideas; as Ron Paul has said.

We have truth on our side. Now is not the time to stand down; it is the time to stand up.

Edit: ^ above.. :D Yep, yep. :p

Shameless self promotion:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c62ncS4O_aQ

Ex Post Facto
10-08-2008, 12:23 AM
I think you may be reading too much into this...however, I do concur there is a great deal of talk about fighting an unknown enemy in an effort to globalize the world.

Conza88
10-08-2008, 12:30 AM
Shameless self promotion:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c62ncS4O_aQ

:D That you at 5.30? :) Great vid.

anaconda
10-08-2008, 01:36 AM
Scroll down on the page and link to the .pdf file marked:

Army Modernization Strategy 2008

Went to the PDF. Read the first page..still didn't see the quote...It's a pretty lengthy document.

I'd like to see the original source...

Ex Post Facto
10-08-2008, 01:38 AM
It's there on the main document first page bottom right corner.

GunnyFreedom
10-08-2008, 01:58 AM
:D That you at 5.30? :) Great vid.

Yes, that's me. And thanks!

I was actually thinking of the PERFECT song for nate895, who said, "If they want to label me, go right ahead:"

and I realized I had not upoaded it.

It's Jim Lampos "Sons of Liberty"

'take my name down'

It's a song, I think, that ALL RP C4L-ers and whatnot ought to hear. Maybe I need to ake another video, and use that song...

anaconda
10-08-2008, 12:43 PM
It's there on the main document first page bottom right corner.

I finally found it on page 6 of the document. I'm not sure why you're telling me page 1.

Truth Warrior
10-08-2008, 12:52 PM
http://i75.photobucket.com/albums/i304/Truth_Warrior/pogo-enemy.jpg

freelance
10-08-2008, 01:14 PM
AF nailed it--as usual.

Kade
10-08-2008, 01:27 PM
I'm what Thomas Paine called a Sunshine Patriot or Summer Soldier. :o
I don't want to risk my life for a bunch of *semi-* and *unbelievably stupid* people (ie. the people who laughed at Ron Paul, or call us *Paultards*).
Normally, it's not a good idea to call people "stupid", so let's just say they were educated in publak scools.

I just want to be left alone...
Is there a moral obligation to fight for freedom?
Why?...
To help others? :confused:

Thomas Paine knew how to motivate the radicals; These days, you need the millions of Sunshine Patriots to succeed. How can we help you, without risking getting sent to FEMA camp?

You alienate allies when you make stupid shitty comments like this.

Truth Warrior
10-08-2008, 01:45 PM
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/ally (http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/ally)

:rolleyes:

TonySutton
10-08-2008, 02:13 PM
US troops will not fire on their own. Remember who these people are. They are our brothers, sisters, fathers, mothers, uncles, aunts, sons and daughters. They supported Ron Paul.

If US troops are asked to turn on their citizens, you will see a coup d’état. If the powers controlling things do not understand this, they are in for a surprise.

USMC (ret)

anaconda
10-08-2008, 02:52 PM
US troops will not fire on their own. Remember who these people are. They are our brothers, sisters, fathers, mothers, uncles, aunts, sons and daughters. They supported Ron Paul.

If US troops are asked to turn on their citizens, you will see a coup d’état. If the powers controlling things do not understand this, they are in for a surprise.

USMC (ret)

I hope you're right! I wish I could share your optimism.

I think that the mission of civil control can be spun by the Conspirator In Chief as a "true form of Patriotism, at a difficult and unfortunate time when we must take painful steps to move forward...." or some pathetic crap like that.

The usual BS that unless you obey the administration you are not patriotic. Forget that allegiance to that "goddamn piece of paper...the Constitution..."

Truth Warrior
10-08-2008, 03:00 PM
US troops will not fire on their own. Remember who these people are. They are our brothers, sisters, fathers, mothers, uncles, aunts, sons and daughters. They supported Ron Paul.

If US troops are asked to turn on their citizens, you will see a coup d’état. If the powers controlling things do not understand this, they are in for a surprise.

USMC (ret) UN "peacekeepers" ( so called ), on US soil. ;)

liberteebell
10-08-2008, 03:04 PM
I think you may be reading too much into this...however, I do concur there is a great deal of talk about fighting an unknown enemy in an effort to globalize the world.


With all due respect, what's there to read into? It's there and it's as clear as day.

liberteebell
10-08-2008, 03:06 PM
UN "peacekeepers" ( so called ), on US soil. ;)

Don't forget the Canadian military that jorge boooosh has invited down to help out in "case of emergency".

Truth Warrior
10-08-2008, 03:09 PM
Don't forget the Canadian military that jorge boooosh has invited down to help out in "case of emergency". I remember. ;)

Catatonic
10-08-2008, 04:33 PM
Don't forget the Canadian military that jorge boooosh has invited down to help out in "case of emergency".

Canadian/Mexican military. And all the illegals/gang bangers now in our military.

Also youtube "operation urban warrior" for a glimpse of what our military can be manipulated into doing in response to a disaster.

Anti Federalist
10-08-2008, 09:53 PM
US troops will not fire on their own. Remember who these people are. They are our brothers, sisters, fathers, mothers, uncles, aunts, sons and daughters. They supported Ron Paul.

If US troops are asked to turn on their citizens, you will see a coup d’état. If the powers controlling things do not understand this, they are in for a surprise.

USMC (ret)

Which is why they have been quietly questioning troops about that very question.

First time I saw a confirmed report of that was 1995 IRRC.

"Would you fire on US citizens who refused to turn in their arms as prescribed by federal law?"

And that's why NORTHCOM is so hot to "import" foreign troops to the US for "cross training".

A Ukrainian soldier would have no qualms shooting your brother or mother.

"Our" guys will be out of country for the most part.

ClockwiseSpark
10-08-2008, 09:55 PM
Which is why they have been quietly questioning troops about that very question.

First time I saw a confirmed report of that was 1995 IRRC.

"Would you fire on US citizens who refused to turn in their arms as prescribed by federal law?"

And that's why NORTHCOM is so hot to "import" foreign troops to the US for "cross training".

A Ukrainian soldier would have no qualms shooting your brother or mother.

"Our" guys will be out of country for the most part.

Are there any links that I could pass on?

Andrew-Austin
10-08-2008, 10:01 PM
http://img525.imageshack.us/img525/2540/supportourtroops2pw1.png (http://imageshack.us)

Like Nike says, just do it.

Pauls' Revere
10-08-2008, 10:02 PM
I'm what Thomas Paine called a Sunshine Patriot or Summer Soldier. :o
I don't want to risk my life for a bunch of *semi-* and *unbelievably stupid* people (ie. the people who laughed at Ron Paul, or call us *Paultards*).
Normally, it's not a good idea to call people "stupid", so let's just say they were educated in publak scools.

I just want to be left alone...
Is there a moral obligation to fight for freedom?
Why?...
To help others? :confused:

Thomas Paine knew how to motivate the radicals; These days, you need the millions of Sunshine Patriots to succeed. How can we help you, without risking getting sent to FEMA camp?

Thanks for the post. I had never heard of the term before. In my line of work I ask myself that question on a daily basis. Why on Earth would I or should I defend these stupid people who wont even help themselves. Would they fight for thier freedom or defend mine? hhmm...

Ex Post Facto
10-08-2008, 11:40 PM
US troops will not fire on their own. Remember who these people are. They are our brothers, sisters, fathers, mothers, uncles, aunts, sons and daughters. They supported Ron Paul.

If US troops are asked to turn on their citizens, you will see a coup d’état. If the powers controlling things do not understand this, they are in for a surprise.

USMC (ret)

I was talking with a ex-Marine whom fought in the initial Iraq invasion. He said no way our troops would ever shoot us after being over there fighting for our constitution way of government. I asked him his opinion of if they would refuse orders, to which he replied "maybe not in the moment...in an aggressive situation. But, they would start defecting and not returning to posts, returning instead to protect thier families."

mediahasyou
10-09-2008, 06:14 PM
the enemy of my enemy is my friend.

Thus, I support all anarchists.