A move to secede on California-Oregon border!

[RonPaulVolunteer]

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2008/10/05/MNNP138DLP.DTL

For real!!

[V4Vendetta]

well if it wasn't so close to the border, I might move there.

[tggroo7]

awesome...but a new state isn't going to accomplish nearly as much as a new country. Still, this is extremely awesome to see.

"the state "seal" of Jefferson: Two X's denoting the double-crossing the area supposedly gets from the capitols of California and Oregon." ...that's clever!!

[Anti Federalist]

Rebellion Revolution Secession NOW!!!

[Sandra]

Wouldn't that create a salt water river? :p

[dannno]

well if it wasn't so close to the border, I might move there.


The California/Oregon border is nowhere near the California/Mexican border, if that's what you're insinuating.. it's like a 12 hour drive.. In fact it's actually closer to the Canadian border..

Unless of course you were joking, or unless you have a real vendetta against the California/Oregon border to the point where you call IT "THE BORDER" :D

[weatherbill]

let's all move there and see it thru.....would love to see someone seceed from this bastard unconstitutional government we have.

[powerofreason]

kewl :D

[rational thinker]

digg it: http://digg.com/politics/A_move_to_secede_on_California_Oregon_border_2

[tggroo7]

let's all move there and see it thru.....would love to see someone seceed from this bastard unconstitutional government we have.

this isn't actually about seceding from the country though. They even say something in the beginning of the article about adding a 51st star.

[FrankRep]

Think of all the books that will need to be updated.

[pahs1994]

this isn't actually about seceding from the country though. They even say something in the beginning of the article about adding a 51st star.

That movement isn't for secession from the U.S. but i found this movement here for a Republic of Cascadia:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cascadia_(independence_movement)

It would have included parts of Canada, Alaska, Idaho, Wash., Oregon and North Cali. Not alot of Info on it, it seems that this movement has died off, but still interesting to read about.

[anaconda]

Beautiful country there. Count me in. I'll move.

[mconder]

What an awesome idea...if they succeed, I would move there.

[Knightskye]

I'd love to move there. Maybe I could get some foreign policy experience. :D

[tonesforjonesbones]

They need to go ahead and seceed from the Union because if Barak Obama wins...the USA will not recover. tones

[Arklatex]

let's all move there and see it thru.....would love to see someone seceed from this bastard unconstitutional government we have.

We should.

[jabrownie]

That's not actually a bad idea. The courts have said we can't suceed from the country, but I havn't heard of anything a section of a state from suceeding and forming a new one. Heck, there's a few other areas I know of that would like to do just that: Eastern washington, northern ohio, southern florida keys just to name a few.

[UnReconstructed]

Texas can split into 5 states if the people (supposedly the people) want to.

[ryanmkeisling]

I am living there right now.:D Although it is not a secession from the USA but a secession from the states of California and Oregon and the creation of a 51st state: The State of Jefferson.

http://www.jeffersonstate.com/

http://stateofjefferson.com/

http://sisnet.ssku.k12.ca.us/~msusdftp/jones/ian/historypg1.html


The idea has been around since 1852. I love it here...

[ryanmkeisling]

They need to go ahead and seceed from the Union because if Barak Obama wins...the USA will not recover. tones

The same is true for McCain, as if he wins the current power structure is empowered. I am assuming you have read Ledeen by now? There is NO difference.
October first was a scary day for the USA. It will never be the same regardless of the results of this election...

[mport1]

Succession right now is the best option.

[ProBlue33]

http://www.zapatopi.net/cascadia/

And Ron Paul could be president or prime minister:)

[klamath]

Note where I say my location is! Unfortunately it will never happen because central and southern california will never let their water and playground leave the state. Assemblymen Stan Statham tried this about 20 years ago but it was voted down. We can dream though.

[Sic Semper Tyrannis]

I don't know about ya'll but I'm a Secessionist.

[dannno]

http://www.bebo.com/Profile.jsp?MemberId=6706578284





History
19th century

Bisected by a trade and travel route which came to be known as the Siskiyou Trail, the region of the proposed State of Jefferson was one of the last areas of North America to be explored by Europeans and Americans, who did not enter the area until the 1820s, and it was not until the discovery of gold at present-day Yreka, California in 1851 that the first significant Euro-American settlement in the area occurred. The area was also the site of the last battle fought in North America where the Native Americans used only bows and arrows (at Castle Crags), and was the site of one of the last significant rebellions by Native Americans (the Modoc War).

In 1852, at the first California state legislature, a bill was introduced to create a "state of Shasta" encompassing much of the area known as Jefferson, including the Shasta Cascade.

Two years later, a separate movement began in southern Oregon. A proposal to create such a state was presented to Congress and remained open until Oregon was granted statehood in 1859.

20th century

In October 1941, the mayor of Port Orford, Oregon, Gilbert Gable, announced that the Oregon counties of Curry, Josephine, Jackson, and Klamath should join with the California counties of Del Norte, Siskiyou, and Modoc to form a new state, later named Jefferson.

Gable proposed creating this new state to draw attention to the condition of the state roads along the Oregon-California border, which at the time were oiled dirt roads that became impassable in rain or snow, and handicapped economic development. As local historian Jim Rock explains, "It was more publicity stunt than serious secession movement at that point. After all, under the U.S. Constitution, they had to get the approval of Congress as well as the legislatures of both states."

Gable's act found sympathy throughout the region, who perceived their state legislatures as indifferent to their needs. Siskiyou County especially embraced the cause: the county seat Yreka became the provisional capital, where in November, 1941 county representatives met and selected the name Jefferson for their state, in commemoration of Thomas Jefferson, the nation's third president.

While inhabitants in Lassen and Shasta counties in northern California flirted with joining the secession movement, only the counties of Curry, Siskiyou, Trinity, and Del Norte actually endorsed the idea.

A naming contest held by the Siskiyou Daily News in November 1941 considered the possibilities for the would be state: Orofino, Bonanza, Discontent, Jefferson, Del Curiskiyou, and Siscurdelmo.

On November 27, 1941, a group of young men gained national media attention when, brandishing hunting rifles for dramatic effect, they stopped traffic on U.S. Route 99 south of Yreka, and handed out copies of a Proclamation of Independence, stating that the state of Jefferson was in "patriotic rebellion against the States of California and Oregon" and would continue to "secede every Thursday until further notice."

The secession movement came to an abrupt end, though not before John C. Childs of Yreka was inaugurated as the governor of the State of Jefferson [1]. The first blow was the death of Mayor Gable on December 2, followed five days later by the attack on Pearl Harbor on December 7. Secessionists focused their efforts on the war effort, which crippled the movement.




..and if you click on that link up there, you'll find several more reasons to move there ;)