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llepard
10-06-2008, 11:00 AM
Well this is it.

Gold of almost any sort is unavailable according to my coin dealer.

Bodhi
10-06-2008, 11:04 AM
Has he got any silver left? :D

gls
10-06-2008, 11:05 AM
Apmex has some 1/2 oz AGEs for WAY over spot

http://www.apmex.com/Category/294/Gold_Eagles___1_2_oz_2008__Prior.aspx

Primbs
10-06-2008, 11:06 AM
If they are really out of gold, shouldn't the price of gold hit 1000 very soon?

Brian
10-06-2008, 11:14 AM
I steer all of my business to Camino Coins, Burt's place, although he's semi-retired:

http://www.caminocompany.com/index.htm

I haven't talked to them lately as I divested from the toilet paper to metals a while back, but try them.

tropicangela
10-06-2008, 11:30 AM
Maybe that's where the 700 billion went. They grabbed the rest for their greedy selves.

CurtisLow
10-06-2008, 11:37 AM
Maybe that's where the 700 billion went. They grabbed the rest for their greedy selves.

Hmm.. Sounds like something they would do.

slacker921
10-06-2008, 11:38 AM
holy cow..
http://www.bulliondirect.com/nucleo/lp/American_Buffalo_Gold_Coin_(1.00_oz).html

BID:
1 $900.00
500 $893.00
1 $875.00
1 $870.00
2 $817.00
1 $800.00
1 $800.00
1 $800.00
1 $776.00
2 $770.00
3 other Bids

and... ASK:
2 $1048.00
1 $1500.00
1 $2000.00

mczerone
10-06-2008, 11:39 AM
Maybe that's where the 700 billion went. They grabbed the rest for their greedy selves.

Don't put it past 'them'. The State apparatus is only beneficial to those in power, and those in power tend to not care about rules or laws or even rights or justice.

If you had keys to the bank vault, and she were about to go up in flames, wouldn't some despicable people carry as much as they could for themselves, and claim it was lost to the fire?

mconder
10-06-2008, 12:01 PM
Well this is it.

Gold of almost any sort is unavailable according to my coin dealer.

According to my coin dealer the U.S. has stopped minting gold and silver coins as of a few weeks ago.

Rhys
10-06-2008, 12:02 PM
Well this is it.

Gold of almost any sort is unavailable according to my coin dealer.

Did you catch the news last week that the US Mint shut down sales of US Mint gold coins?

Lord Xar
10-06-2008, 12:06 PM
no gold? What about ordering it outside for delivery?? What are the options for that?

gilliganscorner
10-06-2008, 12:09 PM
Same here in Canada:


The plunging stock market in Canada has led to a spike in gold purchases, and gold brokers may soon have trouble keeping up with demand.

A teller at Scotiabank's precious metals exchange desk in the Scotia Plaza said Thursday that nervous investors had already purchased all of Scotia's one-ounce gold bullion bars, which are slightly cheaper than the Scotia one-ounce gold coins. The bars, which are emblazoned with the Scotiabank logo, are expected to be in stock by the end of October or early November.

"It's been crazy here," the teller said.

All other denominations, including the one-ounce gold maple leaves produced by the Royal Canadian Mint, are readily available at the moment.

Michael Levy, a gold broker based in Surrey, B.C., said the volume of people purchasing gold is at its highest since the inflation scare of 1979. "People were buying then because of inflation, now because of a growing distrust in paper currency," he said. "It's a different mentality but the same rush."

Mr. Levy said that the Royal Canadian Mint had stretched its delivery schedule from the usual two to four days to as much as a week. He suspects the increased demand from worldwide gold investors after the U.S. Mint ran out of one-ounce American Eagle coins in August and one-ounce American Buffalo coins at the end of September is putting an increased strain on the RCM.

"Their ability to produce is finite. You can't just buy another press. If this demand keeps up, keeps expanding, well there will be a supply problem," he said.

Alex Reeves, a spokesperson with the mint, said they are on pace to exceed their 2007 totals of 278,000 ounces of gold bullion coins, bars and wafers produced. The mint's Ottawa facility is running at maximum capacity, he said.

"[Distributors] would like more gold than we can produce but we're supplying the best we can. Look at that as good news," he said. "We're able to keep producing gold while the U.S. Mint has to throw up their hands and say, 'we're out.'"

http://network.nationalpost.com/np/blogs/fpposted/archive/2008/10/04/195996.aspxi

lucius
10-06-2008, 12:10 PM
Beginnings of friendly fascism...suppress the price, limited supply; then the media will assuage my idiot/rube/monkey countrymen with some variant of 'Yes! We Have No Bananas'.

ClayTrainor
10-06-2008, 12:13 PM
Same here in Canada:


http://network.nationalpost.com/np/blogs/fpposted/archive/2008/10/04/195996.aspxi

Excellent, thanks for the article.

looks like we still got time in Canada :D

gilliganscorner
10-06-2008, 12:15 PM
Excellent, thanks for the article.

looks like we still got time in Canada :D

Don't buy anything from Scotia. Unless you want to part with every piece of personal information you have.

Ninja Homer
10-06-2008, 12:16 PM
I know gold in hand is best, but how about goldmoney.com or bullionvault.com? Are they safe? Are they selling gold they don't have?

gilliganscorner
10-06-2008, 12:16 PM
I know gold in hand is best, but how about goldmoney.com or bullionvault.com? Are they safe?

With all due respect, you answered your own question.

werdd
10-06-2008, 12:19 PM
I was going to go to my local coin store last friday, i was shocked to see that they had closed shop.

Guess he figured he'd take his investment and run with it.

ClayTrainor
10-06-2008, 12:19 PM
Don't buy anything from Scotia. Unless you want to part with every piece of personal information you have.

Yea i hear ya but, I have such a kickass hiding place for my metals, that no matter what information they take, they'll never find my gold after they sell it to me. :cool:

gilliganscorner
10-06-2008, 12:21 PM
I was going to go to my local coin store last friday, i was shocked to see that they had closed shop.

Guess he figured he'd take his investment and run with it.

Not really. Coin dealers are coming under more and more scrutiny for reporting their Customers. Privacy is a key cornerstone for them.

dwdollar
10-06-2008, 12:23 PM
At this point I'm more worried about buying lead and steel.

gilliganscorner
10-06-2008, 12:23 PM
Yea i hear ya but, I have such a kickass hiding place for my metals, that no matter what information they take, they'll never find my gold after they sell it to me. :cool:

OK. I'll bite. Where is it? ;) Did you hide it in their vaults?

It's not about them finding you. It is about the government finding you. If they want to confiscate it, all they have to do is go find you. Then it's fingernail pulling time...

fatjohn
10-06-2008, 12:26 PM
This is worldwide. You cannot longer buy napoleon 20 frank coins in brussels. The french keep them for themselves. This is the first time that happened

Lord Xar
10-06-2008, 12:57 PM
ok.. SO, are there any places online to buy it that will deliver asap?

FunkBuddha
10-06-2008, 01:07 PM
OK. I'll bite. Where is it? ;) Did you hide it in their vaults?

It's not about them finding you. It is about the government finding you. If they want to confiscate it, all they have to do is go find you. Then it's fingernail pulling time...

My wife and I have already agreed that if they come looking for mine we're telling them that I had a drug relapse and I traded it all on crack and hookers.

ClayTrainor
10-06-2008, 01:12 PM
My wife and I have already agreed that if they come looking for mine we're telling them that I had a drug relapse and I traded it all on crack and hookers.

LMAO, Brilliant! :D


OK. I'll bite. Where is it? ;) Did you hide it in their vaults?

It's not about them finding you. It is about the government finding you. If they want to confiscate it, all they have to do is go find you. Then it's fingernail pulling time...

Haha, good point.

Guess i better arm myself too :cool:

raiha
10-06-2008, 01:15 PM
what about India...its cheaper there.

Scribbler de Stebbing
10-06-2008, 01:33 PM
Any reason not to buy scrap? That's what I do to avoid paying a premium. Harder to sell when the times comes. Or maybe not . . .

erin moore
10-06-2008, 02:44 PM
So, if one can find gold, what is the best way to buy it?

Having never purchased gold in this way before... what is the preferred coin?

If you have the money should you get 1 oz. coins, 1/10 oz coins, bars?

Bern
10-06-2008, 02:47 PM
Blanchard had Krugerands as of last week. Monex claimed to have $1,000 face value bags of 90% silver. It's getting harder to find.

Highland
10-06-2008, 02:49 PM
you mean they sold all of the gold they stole from the World Trade Center???!!! I thought that would last a lot longer than this...tsk tsk