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Bradley in DC
10-04-2008, 11:02 AM
http://www.nolanchart.com/article5101.html

FunkBuddha
10-04-2008, 11:14 AM
I would love to see the green party shift from statism towards libertarianism. To me, it only makes sense. Libertarians are by and large self sufficient people which is in turn, good for the environment.

Libertarians believe in free market solutions which are always more efficient than the wasteful government solutions.

Libertarians believe in personal responsibility which is something I hear enviromentalists talking about all the time. The greens say that we each have to our do part to clean up the environment.

Am I out of line in my thinking here?

Bradley in DC
10-04-2008, 11:18 AM
I would love to see the green party shift from statism towards libertarianism. To me, it only makes sense. Libertarians are by and large self sufficient people which is in turn, good for the environment.

Libertarians believe in free market solutions which are always more efficient than the wasteful government solutions.

Libertarians believe in personal responsibility which is something I hear enviromentalists talking about all the time. The greens say that we each have to our do part to clean up the environment.

Am I out of line in my thinking here?

I think a growing minority (on their side) agrees with you.

EPIC1934
10-04-2008, 12:01 PM
I think your comment about The Greens and personal responsibility are apt, although I am not a Green myself, and prefer to remain a roaming left-libertarian "pontoon bug" able to land in various puddles of thought and annoy everyone, including my liver.

Too many prefer to easily dismiss ALL OF THE LEFT as monolithically fanatically statist. In fact, if one studies many of the Left groups, such as the real Black Panthers (see The Murder of Fred Hampton video on Youtube, excellent, don't be fooled by foul language that was de rigour for the time period, it is not gratutitous even if it is monotonous) many were criticizing the liberals PRECISELY BECAUSE OF THEIR STATISM AT the expense of local radical groups individual initiatives!!!!

So SO so so SO often I hear ESPECIALLY YOUNGER FOLKES (who have no historical memory of the 1960s and 70s, or who have only read more RECENTLY PUBLISHED and airbrushed history -airbrushed narratives) confuse liberals with "the left".

Of course this is not so say that there were some on the left who were in fact fanatical statists.

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RE: CYNTHIA MCKINNEY i had the pleasure of hearing her speak at the anniversary of Malcolm X assassination conference sponsoered by COPA the Committee on Political Assassinations, this past Feb. at the Audobon Ballroom in Harlem. SHe, as usual gave an outstanding and very solidly researched presentation. Those who only know of her through the TV-COP _ Haircut incident need to read your media op. playbooks and give her a second look.

I mean come on folks, african americans, haircuts,--- the recipe is straight from the COINTELPRO -- BETTY CROCKER HOW TO INSTILL RACIAL DIVISION ON THE LEFT PLAYBOOK!!!!

Truth Warrior
10-04-2008, 12:01 PM
Cindy the psycho SOCIALIST! :p :rolleyes:

http://www.congressionalbadboys.com/McKinney.htm

Lovecraftian4Paul
10-04-2008, 02:21 PM
While libertarianism would be very compatible with conservative Greens, from what I've seen, the party doesn't have nearly enough of them to ever make that kind of conversion. They favor a strong government to prop up the environment. They're also tied in with various minority interests and the extreme liberals who are constantly screaming for more welfare. The Greens even openly support reparations for descendants of slaves. That's just a headlong stride into pseudocommunism and extreme Black Panther crap in my opinion.

swirling_vortex
10-04-2008, 03:31 PM
In my opinion, I really don't see a difference between the Greens and the Democrats except that the former is more anti-war. Of course, that doesn't mean Green politics is lost. In fact, green libertarianism is an interesting ideology.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Green_libertarianism

Bradley in DC
10-05-2008, 09:55 AM
In my opinion, I really don't see a difference between the Greens and the Democrats except that the former is more anti-war. Of course, that doesn't mean Green politics is lost. In fact, green libertarianism is an interesting ideology.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Green_libertarianism

Good find, thanks.

Mesogen
10-05-2008, 11:24 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YbEEyTIVKMI

http://elections.foxnews.com/2008/10/02/mckinney-accuses-government-slaughtering-prisoners-dumping-bodies-katrina/

So, uh, where are the bodies again? Where are the people that actually did this?
It's a tad far fetched.
Either she is gullible or crazy or both.

Bradley in DC
10-05-2008, 11:41 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YbEEyTIVKMI

http://elections.foxnews.com/2008/10/02/mckinney-accuses-government-slaughtering-prisoners-dumping-bodies-katrina/

So, uh, where are the bodies again? Where are the people that actually did this?
It's a tad far fetched.
Either she is gullible or crazy or both.

Hey, I was only analyzing her poll numbers! ;)

EPIC1934
10-05-2008, 05:16 PM
In my opinion, I really don't see a difference between the Greens and the Democrats except that the former is more anti-war. Of course, that doesn't mean Green politics is lost. In fact, green libertarianism is an interesting ideology.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Green_libertarianism

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The Dems are not anti-war at all. Without their cooperation there is no way this war would ever have happened or continued. The fact that some make anti-war noises is nothing more than a psy-op. The leadership and core of the party is as pro war as the Republicans.

EPIC1934
10-05-2008, 05:19 PM
Find anyone opposing Bush like this?

http://fr.youtube.com/watch?v=eootfzAhAoU