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Volitzer
10-02-2008, 11:18 AM
U.S. Army conducting training exercises in cities, towns

PATTI BIELLING
Army News Service
Wednesday, Oct 1, 2008

FORT STEWART, GA. - The exercise scenario was a sobering one: a 10-kiloton nuclear device detonated in America’s heartland, quickly overwhelming civilian responders.

Military leaders who recently trained for this response say they are now thinking differently about how to move equipment, extract the injured and take care of people following this type of attack.

Their insights came from “Vibrant Response,” a week-long command post exercise designed to train the commanders and staff of the nation’s dedicated force for responding to chemical, biological, radiological, nuclear and high-yield explosive incidents, or CBRNE incidents.

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The units completed the exercise Sept. 18 at Fort Stewart, Ga., just two weeks before their force, the CBRNE Consequence Management Response Force, or CCMRF, will be assigned to U.S. Northern Command to begin its mission.

“Assigning them will allow Northern Command to directly influence the operational and training focus of the forces and ensure a trained and ready response force when needed,” said Col. Lou Vogler, chief of future operations at U.S. Army North.

U.S. Army North conducted the exercise while its subordinate, Joint Task Force Civil Support, provided command and control for the CCMRF.

Joint Task Force Civil Support — based at Fort Monroe, Va. — plans, trains, develops policy and determines the way ahead for DOD CBRNE response, said the force’s commander, Army Maj. Gen. Daniel “Chip” Long.

Commanders and staff in the three task forces - Operations, Medical and Aviation - say that the academics and command post exercise offered valuable new perspectives for the Soldiers, Sailors, Airmen and Marines assuming this important mission.

http://www.prisonplanet.com/us-army-conducting-training-exercises-in-cities-towns.html


NorthCom Denies Troops To Be Used For Crowd Control

But admits that Army will have access to weapons and tanks during homeland patrols

Paul Joseph Watson
Prison Planet
Thursday, October 2, 2008

Following the alarming admission that active duty U.S. Army would be on call to deal with “civil unrest” inside the United States from October 1st, the US Northern Command (USNORTHCOM) has publicly denied that troops will engage in law enforcement duties, but concedes that forces will be armed with both non-lethal and lethal weapons as well as having access to tanks.

As we highlighted last week, a September 8 Army Times report stated that active duty troops from the 3rd Infantry Division’s 1st Brigade Combat Team returning from Iraq would be on call as a “federal response force for natural or manmade emergencies and disasters, including terrorist attacks,” for a period of 12 months from October 1st.

The purpose of the unit’s patrols, according to the article, includes helping “with civil unrest and crowd control or to deal with potentially horrific scenarios such as massive poisoning and chaos in response to a chemical, biological, radiological, nuclear or high-yield explosive, or CBRNE, attack.”

However, a NorthCom official, presumably responding to reports featured on this website and others, publicly denies that troops will be used to police Americans.

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“This response force will not be called upon to help with law enforcement, civil disturbance or crowd control, but will be used to support lead agencies involved in saving lives, relieving suffering and meeting the needs of communities affected by weapons of mass destruction attacks, accidents or even natural disasters,” Army Col. Michael Boatner, USNORTHCOM future operations division chief, told Homeland Security Today.

We also learn that the troops will be under the operational control of USNORTHCOM’s Joint Force Land Component Command under US Army North, headquartered in San Antonio, Texas. The operational headquarters of the response force is at Fort Monroe, Virginia.

The original Army Times report also stated that the use of non-lethal weapons against Americans would be a possibility, but a retraction has now been issued stating that the forces would not use nonlethal weaponry domestically.

However, Democracy Now’s Amy Goodman was told by Air Force Lt. Col. Jamie Goodpaster, a public affairs officer for Northern Command, that “Military forces would have weapons on-site, “containerized,” she said — that is, stored in containers — including both lethal and so-called nonlethal weapons. They would have mostly wheeled vehicles, but would also, she said, have access to tanks. She said that use of weapons would be made at a higher level, perhaps at the secretary of defense level.”

As Goodman writes in an editorial for the Seattle Post-Intelligencer, “Talk of trouble on U.S. streets is omnipresent now, with the juxtaposition of Wall Street and Main Street. The financial crisis we face remains obscure to most people; titans of business and government officials assure us that the financial system is “on the brink,” that a massive bailout is necessary, immediately, to prevent a disaster. Conservative and progressive members of Congress, at the insistence of constituents, blocked the initial plan. If the economy does collapse, if people can’t go down to the bank to withdraw their savings, or get cash from an ATM, there may be serious “civil unrest,” and the “sea-smurfs” may be called upon sooner than we imagine to assist with “crowd control.”

The use of U.S. troops in law enforcment duties is a complete violation of the Posse Comitatus Act and the Insurrection Act, which substantially limit the powers of the federal government to use the military for law enforcement unless under precise and extreme circumstances.

Section 1385 of the Posse Comitatus Act states, “Whoever, except in cases and under circumstances expressly authorized by the Constitution or Act of Congress, willfully uses any part of the Army or the Air Force as a posse comitatus or otherwise to execute the laws shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than two years, or both.”

Under the John Warner Defense Authorization Act, signed by President Bush on October 17, 2006, the law was changed to state, “The President may employ the armed forces to restore public order in any State of the United States the President determines hinders the execution of laws or deprives people of a right, privilege, immunity, or protection named in the Constitution and secured by law or opposes or obstructs the execution of the laws of the United States or impedes the course of justice under those laws.”

However, these changes were repealed in their entirety by HR 4986: National Defense Authorization Act for Fiscal Year 2008, reverting back to the original state of the Insurrection Act of 1807. Despite this repeal, President Bush attached a signing statement saying that he did not feel bound by the repeal.

The original text of the Insurrection Act severely limits the power of the President to deploy troops within the United States.

For troops to be deployed, a condition has to exist that, “(1) So hinders the execution of the laws of that State, and of the United States within the State, that any part or class of its people is deprived of a right, privilege, immunity, or protection named in the Constitution and secured by law, and the constituted authorities of that State are unable, fail, or refuse to protect that right, privilege, or immunity, or to give that protection; or (2) opposes or obstructs the execution of the laws of the United States or impedes the course of justice under those laws. In any situation covered by clause (1), the State shall be considered to have denied the equal protection of the laws secured by the Constitution.”

http://www.prisonplanet.com/northcom-denies-troops-to-be-used-for-crowd-control.html

WokeUpDazed
10-02-2008, 12:36 PM
I just recently joined the Ron Paul Forums, and the one thing I liked about it was the fact that everyone here seemed to have a goal toward making our country a better place.
I would ask you to question your reasoning for posting this thread, as it seems to generate fear and defeats sound logic toward achieving a common goal. I have lived in terror during the last 6-months at the mercy of Conspiracy websites and videos found on Youtube. I have gathered a lot of information on subjects ranging from the FEMA Concentration Camps, Martial Law, The Project for the New American Century and many other terribly horrifying subjects. It came to a head when I finally woke up and asked myself, "What can you really do about this if it is true?" I was tired of being scared; Exhausted to be honest.
A friend of mine introduced me to this site and to Ron Paul (not personally, of course). Here I found a large group of reasoning activists for change. Finally an answer to my question. What can I do? I can help promote that change so that the fears that had crippled me will never happen...not if I still have a voice.
I am glad you are one of the millions out there paying attention to what our government is up to, but please think about the affect of your words on people.

Time for Change
10-02-2008, 01:35 PM
Plug me back in...the reality of all this is much too disturbing.

Should have taken the other pill.

8-)

(I had to do it...all in good fun)

LibertasPraesidium
10-02-2008, 02:02 PM
http://www.armytimes.com/news/2008/09/army_homeland_090708w/

here is the link and post in the army times explaining alot more :-)

dawnbt
10-02-2008, 02:12 PM
I just recently joined the Ron Paul Forums, and the one thing I liked about it was the fact that everyone here seemed to have a goal toward making our country a better place.
I would ask you to question your reasoning for posting this thread, as it seems to generate fear and defeats sound logic toward achieving a common goal. I have lived in terror during the last 6-months at the mercy of Conspiracy websites and videos found on Youtube. I have gathered a lot of information on subjects ranging from the FEMA Concentration Camps, Martial Law, The Project for the New American Century and many other terribly horrifying subjects. It came to a head when I finally woke up and asked myself, "What can you really do about this if it is true?" I was tired of being scared; Exhausted to be honest.
A friend of mine introduced me to this site and to Ron Paul (not personally, of course). Here I found a large group of reasoning activists for change. Finally an answer to my question. What can I do? I can help promote that change so that the fears that had crippled me will never happen...not if I still have a voice.
I am glad you are one of the millions out there paying attention to what our government is up to, but please think about the affect of your words on people.


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