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SWATH
10-01-2008, 07:07 PM
BASTARDS!, no surprise though.

jabrownie
10-01-2008, 07:08 PM
Votes on amending the Tax bill with the Bailout Package: (Not voting on the total bill, but probably the same)

Akaka (D-HI), Y
Alexander (R-TN), Y
Allard (R-CO), N
Barrasso (R-WY), N
Baucus (D-MT), Y
Bayh (D-IN), Y
Bennett (R-UT), Y
Biden (D-DE), Y
Bingaman (D-NM), Y
Bond (R-MO), Y
Boxer (D-CA), Y
Brown (D-OH), Y
Brownback (R-KS), N
Bunning (R-KY), N
Burr (R-NC), Y
Byrd (D-WV), Y
Cantwell (D-WA), N
Cardin (D-MD), Y
Carper (D-DE), Y
Casey (D-PA), Y
Chambliss (R-GA), Y
Clinton (D-NY), Y
Coburn (R-OK), Y
Cochran (R-MS), N
Coleman (R-MN), Y
Collins (R-ME), Y
Conrad (D-ND), Y
Corker (R-TN), Y
Cornyn (R-TX), Y
Craig (R-ID), Y
Crapo (R-ID), N
DeMint (R-SC), N
Dodd (D-CT), Y
Dole (R-NC), N
Domenici (R-NM), Y
Dorgan (D-ND), N
Durbin (D-IL), Y
Ensign (R-NV), Y
Enzi (R-WY), N
Feingold (D-WI), N
Feinstein (D-CA), Y
Graham (R-SC), Y
Grassley (R-IA), Y
Gregg (R-NH), Y
Hagel (R-NE), Y
Harkin (D-IA), Y
Hatch (R-UT), Y
Hutchison (R-TX), Y
Inhofe (R-OK), N
Inouye (D-HI), Y
Isakson (R-GA), Y
Johnson (D-SD), N
Kennedy (D-MA),
Kerry (D-MA), Y
Klobuchar (D-MN), Y
Kohl (D-WI), Y
Kyl (R-AZ), Y
Landrieu (D-LA), N
Lautenberg (D-NJ), Y
Leahy (D-VT), Y
Levin (D-MI), Y
Lieberman (ID-CT), Y
Lincoln (D-AR), Y
Lugar (R-IN), Y
Martinez (R-FL), Y
McCain (R-AZ), Y
McCaskill (D-MO), Y
McConnell (R-KY), Y
Menendez (D-NJ), Y
Mikulski (D-MD), Y
Murkowski (R-AK), Y
Murray (D-WA), Y
Nelson (D-FL), N
Nelson (D-NE), Y
Obama (D-IL), Y
Pryor (D-AR), Y
Reed (D-RI), Y
Reid (D-NV), Y
Roberts (R-KS), N
Rockefeller (D-WV), Y
Salazar (D-CO), Y
Sanders (I-VT), N
Schumer (D-NY), Y
Sessions (R-AL), N
Shelby (R-AL), N
Smith (R-OR), Y
Snowe (R-ME), Y
Specter (R-PA), Y
Stabenow (D-MI), N
Stevens (R-AK), Y
Sununu (R-NH), Y
Tester (D-MT), N
Thune (R-SD), Y
Vitter (R-LA), N
Voinovich (R-OH), Y
Warner (R-VA), Y
Webb (D-VA), Y
Whitehouse (D-RI), Y
Wicker (R-MS), Y
Wyden (D-OR), N

ItsTime
10-01-2008, 07:10 PM
Sununu (R-NH), Y

Just lost his race

CSPAN is propaganda city right now

tpreitzel
10-01-2008, 07:10 PM
Did Barrasso abstain?

Enzi voted no which is good.

socialize_me
10-01-2008, 07:10 PM
Death by Snu Snu

kojirodensetsu
10-01-2008, 07:12 PM
Maria Cantwell voted no? She's a democrat so I figured she would have voted yes. Patty Murray voted yes though.

jaumen
10-01-2008, 07:12 PM
So what does that mean? Doesn't it have to pass both the house and the senate?

xtravar
10-01-2008, 07:12 PM
I know you all hate Feingold for the McCain-Feingold bill, but Feingold is ranked the most libertarian in the senate. And he voted 'no' on this, which I knew he would.

socialize_me
10-01-2008, 07:12 PM
Yes, it must pass both...they'll have a conference bill or something...complete bullshit

jabrownie
10-01-2008, 07:13 PM
Did Barrasso abstain?

Enzi voted no which is good.

Thanks for catching my omission of barrasso's vote, fixed.

Kludge
10-01-2008, 07:13 PM
????? Stabenow voted "nay"?

MelissaCato
10-01-2008, 07:13 PM
Specter (R-PA), Y WTF I was told today about 1:00 it was opposed. These people don't give a damn about us. They are traitors !!

Cowlesy
10-01-2008, 07:14 PM
Death by Snu Snu

A moment of levity in this absurdity.

Hey. Let us look at it this way. Let us profit off this mayhem. Let the market get driven up in the next 4-5 business days, and when you're comfortable, short the snot out of it (if they don't ban ALL short selling).

Or let Gold/Silver plummet, and then stock up.

In the end, they cannot stop the recession. Take any market euphoria as a chance for gains on your part.

Cowlesy
10-01-2008, 07:15 PM
hah! Bernie Sanders the Socialist of VT got it right.

RCA
10-01-2008, 07:15 PM
One of my senators (Nelson) voted Nay, the other (Martinez) for Yay. Oh well, I'm voting at least one out of office.

CountryMe
10-01-2008, 07:15 PM
Well, now you know just how much your Congress represents you, we the people.

I didn't think we stood a chance and now with all the sweeteners added it will probably pass the House, too.


Man, am I tired :(

Sad day in America when our congress has proven just where their priorities are!

ronpaulfollower999
10-01-2008, 07:17 PM
One of my senators (Nelson) voted Nay, the other (Martinez) for Yay. Oh well, I'm voting at least one out of office.

Same here. Im not surprised that Martinez voted yes.

jabrownie
10-01-2008, 07:17 PM
Specter (R-PA), Y WTF I was told today about 1:00 it was opposed. These people don't give a damn about us. They are traitors !!

Yea, Same thing happened with Sherrod Brown (OH). When it was in the house he said a handful of things against it, then he went, changed his stance and got huggles from all the senators supporting the dark side.

Cowlesy
10-01-2008, 07:17 PM
Oh the Senate is beyond even grassroots intervention, in my opinion.

Anyone who voted "No" who you know to be a dumbass that you'd think would've voted "Yes", did so out of political expediency.

bew2005
10-01-2008, 07:18 PM
Senate Minority Leader McConnell may have just lost his seat. Kentuckians are totally opposed to this package, and he supported it anyway. He is in a close race with the Democrat rival, and this may be the straw that broke the camel's back.

Poll from 9/27:
http://www.courier-journal.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080927/NEWS0106/809270303&referrer=FRONTPAGECAROUSEL

tpreitzel
10-01-2008, 07:20 PM
Thanks for catching my omission of barrasso's vote, fixed.

Thank you. John Barrasso and Mike Enzi displayed courage, common sense, and patriotism for voting no! I'll remember these votes, senators, when ultimately deciding on a candidate in future elections. Unfortunately, we, the people, have been sold out by special interests controlling the Senate. Even with the unconstitutional 17th amendment, we, the people, still have no representation in the Senate. Senators, what should we, the people, do now to force a return to representation? Thanks for listening... It's time. ;)

Join The Paul Side
10-01-2008, 07:21 PM
Same here. Im not surprised that Martinez voted yes.


I never liked Mel anyways so I will joyfully vote against him.

Kevin_Kennedy
10-01-2008, 07:22 PM
My congressman voted for it, and now both senators. Not a good week.

revolutionary8
10-01-2008, 07:24 PM
jabrown wrote:

Votes on amending the Tax bill with the Bailout Package: (Not voting on the total bill, but probably the same)
Could someone give me a summary or a link to the Bill on amending the Tax Bill? I am totally lost over here, and sweating bullets. :(

kathy88
10-01-2008, 07:26 PM
Both of my Pennsylvania Senators voted YES. Shocker. Ass clowns, both of them. I expected it from Arlen Schphincter.

rprprs
10-01-2008, 07:32 PM
Both of my Pennsylvania Senators voted YES. Shocker. Ass clowns, both of them. I expected it from Arlen Schphincter.

Had you read his web-page, you would have expected it from Boob Casey, too.:p Bastards!

Cowlesy
10-01-2008, 07:33 PM
SHAME on them.

All of them.

Cowlesy
10-01-2008, 07:37 PM
NY should be excluded from the Union.

Our politicians are so entrenched not to mention bought/paid-for that even me screaming/being an activist will do nothing to Schumer/Clinton/Weiner.

It's time to throw off the chains.

Indy4Chng
10-01-2008, 07:38 PM
Do they have who voted for the actual bill that authorized the bailout... I want to be sure before I start screaming.

crackyflipside
10-01-2008, 07:39 PM
Mel Martinez R-FL voted Yes, he will be hearing from me

Bill Nelson D-FL voted No , he just got my thanks even for being a total partisan at times.

Cowlesy
10-01-2008, 07:40 PM
He voted NO because he didn't need to Vote YES.

kahless
10-01-2008, 07:42 PM
NY should be excluded from the Union.

Our politicians are so entrenched not to mention bought/paid-for that even me screaming/being an activist will do nothing to Schumer/Clinton/Weiner.

It's time to throw off the chains.

The politicians in NY do not represent the people of NY. They represent the MSM headquartered there and the 5 boroughs of NYC.

Upstate NY succession is necessary. I would rather live in the Republic of Upstate NY than the state of NY controlled by these corrupt Communists, the MSM headquartered there and the ignorant masses in NYC that support them.

crackyflipside
10-01-2008, 07:43 PM
He voted NO because he didn't need to Vote YES.

He gave a pretty good speech, though.

Talking about how this is rewarding investment banks and sticking it to the taxpayer.

phoenixrising
10-01-2008, 07:43 PM
yes...it goes back to the house on friday i believe.

yet if it doesn't pass there??? can anyone explain what happens next???? back to the drawing boards? i guess they will keep at it until something passes? ;(

NewEnd
10-01-2008, 07:46 PM
I know you all hate Feingold for the McCain-Feingold bill, but Feingold is ranked the most libertarian in the senate. And he voted 'no' on this, which I knew he would.


I dont hate Feingold.

;)

He is my most respected Senator.

Yeah Cantwell, who I dont like voted no. I am surprised.

Call Me V
10-01-2008, 07:46 PM
I am proud of at least one of my senators...

Jim Bunning! :D

RoyalShock
10-01-2008, 07:49 PM
Small consolation, but at least Brownback and Roberts of Kansas voted No. Of course, Brownback has presidential aspiratioins and Roberts is up for re-election this cycle against sleazy Democrat and former Congressman and lobbyist, Jim, I-missed-most-of-the-votes, Slattery.

MGreen
10-01-2008, 07:49 PM
Graham voted Y. I hope this helps Bob Conley.

Created4
10-01-2008, 08:10 PM
I know you all hate Feingold for the McCain-Feingold bill, but Feingold is ranked the most libertarian in the senate. And he voted 'no' on this, which I knew he would.

I am glad he did, as I live in Wisconsin and contacted both him and Kohl. I don't know how "libertarian" he is since he wants more government regulation and wants to bail out those who can't pay their mortgages. From his website yesterday:

“First, the negotiators should offset the cost of the proposed bailout so that taxpayers don't get saddled with it. There are plenty of proposals out there that can be considered, including asking Wall Street to bear at least some of the cost. Second, negotiators should add meaningful provisions to help families facing foreclosure. This is more than just a matter of fairness - the housing crisis is the root cause of the credit market collapse, and unless we address it, any rescue package is far less likely to work. Finally, negotiators must address the deeply flawed regulatory structure that paved the way for this crisis. The administration and others have said such reforms must wait for another day, but once a rescue package is enacted, we lose the leverage needed to enact tough reforms to get the financial sector to clean up its act, and we risk having to deal with this same mess all over again.”

One thing I will say for Feingold though: he does NOT have strong ties to the Wall Street crowd. Pretty much everyone else in the Senate is getting their economic information from "business leaders" that are heavily tied to Wall St. Feingold is probably not among them.

Let's hope the House stands firm on this and that the fear of constituent anger will keep them mostly voting "no."

xd9fan
10-01-2008, 08:12 PM
I often wonder if the guns will come out in my lifetime......and what it would take.

Malakai
10-01-2008, 08:14 PM
One of my senators (Nelson) voted Nay, the other (Martinez) for Yay. Oh well, I'm voting at least one out of office.

It's ass backwards too, I completely expected Nelson to vote yes and Martinez to vote no. They voted opposite of how they did on the original senate vote I saw linked here last week.

tpreitzel
10-01-2008, 08:17 PM
I often wonder if the guns will come out in my lifetime......and what it would take.

We're getting perilously close with the blatant non-representation in Congress, I believe.

dawnbt
10-01-2008, 08:20 PM
????? Stabenow voted "nay"?

I know. I was shocked. However, Levin...like his brother in the congress, voted aye!

roho76
10-01-2008, 08:29 PM
????? Stabenow voted "nay"?

I almost shit myself. I just sent about 10 faxes of the "You're Fired" wanted posters to Carl Levins offices.

OferNave
10-01-2008, 08:32 PM
It's on Digg...

http://digg.com/business_finance/Senate_passes_700B_sweetened_rescue_package_2

OferNave
10-01-2008, 08:37 PM
Fuck you John Sununu.
Fuck you Judd Gregg.
Fuck you Carol Shea Porter, you Pelosi-worshipping twat.
Thank you Paul Hodes... for the moment. :)

Time to clean house.

xtravar
10-01-2008, 08:38 PM
I am glad he did, as I live in Wisconsin and contacted both him and Kohl. I don't know how "libertarian" he is since he wants more government regulation and wants to bail out those who can't pay their mortgages. From his website yesterday:

“First, the negotiators should offset the cost of the proposed bailout so that taxpayers don't get saddled with it. There are plenty of proposals out there that can be considered, including asking Wall Street to bear at least some of the cost. Second, negotiators should add meaningful provisions to help families facing foreclosure. This is more than just a matter of fairness - the housing crisis is the root cause of the credit market collapse, and unless we address it, any rescue package is far less likely to work. Finally, negotiators must address the deeply flawed regulatory structure that paved the way for this crisis. The administration and others have said such reforms must wait for another day, but once a rescue package is enacted, we lose the leverage needed to enact tough reforms to get the financial sector to clean up its act, and we risk having to deal with this same mess all over again.”

One thing I will say for Feingold though: he does NOT have strong ties to the Wall Street crowd. Pretty much everyone else in the Senate is getting their economic information from "business leaders" that are heavily tied to Wall St. Feingold is probably not among them.

Let's hope the House stands firm on this and that the fear of constituent anger will keep them mostly voting "no."

He is the most libertarian in the senate. That doesn't mean that he's opposed to all government spending, but he's pretty good with keeping the budget in check.

See these links.
Senate scorecard:
http://freedomdemocrats.org/node/526

House scorecard:
http://freedomdemocrats.org/HouseScorecard01Total

You'll notice that the uppermost (most libertarian) dot for the Senate is... Russ Feingold!
The uppermost dot for the House is Ron Paul.

Yes, they come from slightly different philosophical bases, but it's apparent that they're on the same team.

parke
10-01-2008, 08:38 PM
Looks like Wicker lost my vote. Taking his yard sign out tomorrow or flying the flag upside down and placing his yard sign under my flag. Cochran voted Nay..

rvkpa
10-01-2008, 08:52 PM
PA Two Thumbs WAY DOWN!

westmich4paul
10-01-2008, 09:06 PM
????? Stabenow voted "nay"?
am very glad she did. It showed she had more balls tha alaevin did on this bill. Levin your no vote come reelection time is allready on my radar.

Knightskye
10-01-2008, 09:10 PM
Death by Snu Snu

Hahahaha.

jrich4rpaul
10-01-2008, 09:11 PM
I wasn't voting for Kerry or Kennedy anyway...

Fyretrohl
10-01-2008, 09:13 PM
Both of our Missouri Criminals voted Yea. So, when next we vote, I will vote Nay for them and campaign against them.

SWATH
10-01-2008, 09:18 PM
McConnell you are going down! Bunning should have horse whipped your ass.

WokeUpDazed
10-01-2008, 09:22 PM
It is not as bad as it seems. We won a fairly solid victory letting congress know how much "We the People" were against this bill from the start. Although it was disappointing to sit and watch the Senate approve the "New and Improved" version of that bill 74-25, it is heartening to know that we now know who our enemies truly are (if we did not know already). So, on that positive note load that gun, fire those Senators, and point your guns at the House of Representatives...because since Monday, they have gotten an earful.;)

LibertasPraesidium
10-01-2008, 09:26 PM
And we have more time on computers and obviously more experience in "spamming from our basements" than they do.

but remember when they are fired the base of each party will still try to prop up a person who is the same as they and try to play them off as the candidate for change
:D This is why we have a criteria on which to base them. Use it.

and WWRPD :cool:

revolutionary8
10-01-2008, 09:26 PM
He is the most libertarian in the senate. That doesn't mean that he's opposed to all government spending, but he's pretty good with keeping the budget in check.

See these links.
Senate scorecard:
http://freedomdemocrats.org/node/526

House scorecard:
http://freedomdemocrats.org/HouseScorecard01Total

You'll notice that the uppermost (most libertarian) dot for the Senate is... Russ Feingold!
The uppermost dot for the House is Ron Paul.

Yes, they come from slightly different philosophical bases, but it's apparent that they're on the same team.

Oh I don't buy this for one second. I think Feingold is a total gatekeeper, and one of them happens to be the McCain-Feingold abomination that made absolutely sure that their gate keeper status was fortified so as to not allow any views similar to their own "maverick" personas were ever able to create any real "change".
He also came out and publicly said "I voted for Obama" and campaigned for Bernie Sanders. He is false opposition if it ever existed. Sadly, some of the Nos are false opposition, but nevertheless, they should ALL be thanked for their patriotism today.
I also think some of the Neos who have infiltrated the Libertarian party are trying to place certain people together on certain charts and polls, and other bunk, when in reality, one or the other (or both) are about as pro-freedom as Goebel.

Matt Collins
10-01-2008, 09:34 PM
I think the ones who voted for it should be tried for treason and publicly lynched in Time's Square on the 5 o'clock news while the crowd chants and throws fruit
. http://www.clipartof.com/images/emoticons/thumbnail2/724_noose_hanging.gif

Created4
10-02-2008, 02:09 PM
He is the most libertarian in the senate. That doesn't mean that he's opposed to all government spending, but he's pretty good with keeping the budget in check.

See these links.
Senate scorecard:
http://freedomdemocrats.org/node/526

House scorecard:
http://freedomdemocrats.org/HouseScorecard01Total

You'll notice that the uppermost (most libertarian) dot for the Senate is... Russ Feingold!
The uppermost dot for the House is Ron Paul.

Yes, they come from slightly different philosophical bases, but it's apparent that they're on the same team.

He's only "libertarian" because he was the sole Senate opposition to the Patriot Act. When it comes to government running people's lives and solving everyone's problems, he is anything but "libertarian." But he is consistent to his own beliefs, and does not cave into special interests, like Wall Street businessman who make up the "advisers" and campaign contributors to most in the Senate. I respect him for that.