Palin thinks man and dinosaur coexisted

[Monolithic]

http://www.latimes.com/news/politics/la-na-palinreligion28-2008sep28,0,3643718.story?track=rss


ANCHORAGE -- Soon after Sarah Palin was elected mayor of the foothill town of Wasilla, Alaska, she startled a local music teacher by insisting in casual conversation that men and dinosaurs coexisted on an Earth created 6,000 years ago -- about 65 million years after scientists say most dinosaurs became extinct -- the teacher said.

jesus christ, i'm considering voting obama/biden just because i'm so terrified of this woman

[Lovecraftian4Paul]

Ha ha ha, oh wow. This goes far beyond the realm of intelligent design and into just...well, stupidity.

[UnReconstructed]

I guess I'm stupid because I do too.

[SeanEdwards]

I think this is perfectly understandable. After all, dinosaurs and McCain coexisted.

[0zzy]

I think this is perfectly understandable. After all, dinosaurs and McCain coexisted.

ZING!

Wait, Dinosaurs were around in post-WW2? WHERE ARE THEY!? *looks around*

[ItsTime]

They did!!!

http://elgrupodehouston.com/images/flintstones%20quarry.jpg

[Uriel999]

I think this is perfectly understandable. After all, dinosaurs and McCain coexisted.

I thought McCain actually was a dinosaur

[Uriel999]

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2388/2490863413_91beb75f86.jpg?v=0

:D

[LittleLightShining]

http://www.latimes.com/news/politics/la-na-palinreligion28-2008sep28,0,3643718.story?track=rss



jesus christ, i'm considering voting obama/biden just because i'm so terrified of this womanI think the same thing.

Run awaaaaaaaaayyyy! :D

[RickyJ]

They did coexist dingbat!

[Monolithic]

They did coexist dingbat!

please be sarcasm

[SeanEdwards]

please be sarcasm

Loonys really do exist.

Sometimes they even get elected!

[Roxi]

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2388/2490863413_91beb75f86.jpg?v=0

:D


oh that is awesome

[yongrel]

Someone took the Flintstones too seriously.

[richiep]

Maybe Palin will point to the Gieco ads as proof that she's right. She probably believes those guys are real cavemen.

[jmdrake]

While I don't like Sarah Palin, she isn't running for high school science teacher. Ron Paul himself questioned evolution during the campaign. (I'm painfully aware of this fact because some "supporters" on this forum acted like he was Satan himself for questioning their favorite theory). It's really a non issue.

Regards,

John M. Drake

[Monolithic]

While I don't like Sarah Palin, she isn't running for high school science teacher. Ron Paul himself questioned evolution during the campaign. (I'm painfully aware of this fact because some "supporters" on this forum acted like he was Satan himself for questioning their favorite theory). It's really a non issue.

Regards,

John M. Drake

it's very important

remember, our current president is one of these idiot creationists, and science under him has been underfunded and censored

so it's very fucking important

[jmdrake]

it's very important

remember, our current president is one of these idiot creationists, and science under him has been underfunded and censored

so it's very fucking important

Ron Paul is one of those "idiot creationists" you hate so much.

As for science being "censored" are you talking about that global warming nonsense? Nothing is more idiotic then believing that carbon emissions are the source of global warming when Mars, Jupiter and Pluto are all heating up at the same rate as the earth. (Unless you think NASA was lying about the Mars rover being solar powered).

Finally, with Ron Paul out to slash federal spending to do you think science funding would somehow be exempt? Remember Dr. Paul criticized Bush for spending too MUCH money on NASA!

http://www.ronpaullibrary.org/document.php?id=342

Regards,

John M. Drake

[revolutionman]

religion is not a free pass to be ignorant. you can believe in The Flintstones, and I will believe that you are ignorant at the very least of science and the physical world.

[Theocrat]

religion is not a free pass to be ignorant. you can believe in The Flintstones, and I will believe that you are ignorant at the very least of science and the physical world.

I agree, and those religious humanists who believe we evolved for millions of years from monkeys are Neanderthals. Therefore, they should never run for any political office. :)

[Monolithic]

I agree, and those religious humanists who believe we evolved for millions of years from monkeys are Neanderthals. Therefore, they should never run for any political office. :)

monkeys and humans evolved from a common ancestor, humans didn't evolve from monkeys

but goes to show what you know, not like i'm going to waste my time on a self described theocrat

[Theocrat]

monkeys and humans evolved from a common ancestor, humans didn't evolve from monkeys

but goes to show what you know, not like i'm going to waste my time on a self described theocrat

I see your religion changes its beliefs a lot.

[Monolithic]

I see your religion changes its beliefs a lot.

first off, no, man and monkeys evolving from a common ancestor has always been the story, anyone who says we evolved from monkeys hasn't read about evolutionary theory at all

and second, saying irreligion is a religion is another one of those stupid fucking things you fundies do all the time, saying irreligion is a religion is like saying bald is a hair color

[Sandra]

Non issue- agreed.

[Theocrat]

first off, no, man and monkeys evolving from a common ancestor has always been the story, anyone who says we evolved from monkeys hasn't read about evolutionary theory at all

and second, saying irreligion is a religion is another one of those stupid fucking things you fundies do all the time, saying irreligion is a religion is like saying bald is a hair color

The fact is you are religious. You religiously believe there is no God. I don't know how many times that has to be pointed out to you secular humanists. You have a religion which rejects the religion of any theistic beliefs, especially in the government sphere. You are not religiously neutral, so the sooner you realize that, the sooner us "fundies" will remain silent about it.

By the way, humans are not animals. It is sickening that anyone would believe in such a notion. When I was taught biology in the public schools, I was taught from my science textbook that humans directly evolved from apes, so you don't know what you're talking about.

[Monolithic]

The fact is you are religious. You religiously believe there is no God. I don't know how many times that has to be pointed out to you secular humanists. You have a religion which rejects the religion of any theistic beliefs, especially in the government sphere. You are not religiously neutral, so the sooner you realize that, the sooner us "fundies" will remain silent about it.

By the way, humans are not animals. It is sickening that anyone would believe in such a notion. When I was taught biology in the public schools, I was taught from my science textbook that humans directly evolved from apes, so you don't know what you're talking about.

well then your textbooks sucked or you didn't understand them in the right away

probably the latter

[Hiki]

The fact is you are religious. You religiously believe there is no God. I don't know how many times that has to be pointed out to you secular humanists. You have a religion which rejects the religion of any theistic beliefs, especially in the government sphere. You are not religiously neutral, so the sooner you realize that, the sooner us "fundies" will remain silent about it.

By the way, humans are not animals. It is sickening that anyone would believe in such a notion. When I was taught biology in the public schools, I was taught from my science textbook that humans directly evolved from apes, so you don't know what you're talking about.

You can be an evolutionist and still believe there is a god.

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/ape Yes, we evolved from apes.

[Theocrat]

You can be an evolutionist and still believe there is a god.

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/ape Yes, we evolved from apes.

According to Monolithic, we didn't evolve from apes. Here we now have two conflicting beliefs in the evolution tale. Which one is correct?! Quick! Somebody call Richard Dawkins...

[newyearsrevolution08]

how come every time someone brings up a damn dinosaur we have to turn it into a religious event?

Did anyone else see Jurassic park? Nothing religious at all...

[Theocrat]

how come every time someone brings up a damn dinosaur we have to turn it into a religious event?

Did anyone else see Jurassic park? Nothing religious at all...

That's because the debate between the creationists' view of dinosaurian history and that of the evolutionists is inherently religious.

[Monolithic]

According to Monolithic, we didn't evolve from apes. Here we now have two conflicting beliefs in the evolution tale. Which one is correct?! Quick! Somebody call Richard Dawkins...

we evolved from a common ancestor as modern day apes

[newyearsrevolution08]

of course they co-existed. Here we are not more than a few years ago.
http://i79.photobucket.com/albums/j156/Kdoss24/Christmas-NewYearsandUniverisal046.jpg

[Uriel999]

Mono said apes, not monkeys. Apes and monkeys different. The theory of evolution believes men evolved not from monkeys but from the ape side of the family.

[Hiki]

Mono said apes, not monkeys. Apes and monkeys different. The theory of evolution believes men evolved not from monkeys but from the ape side of the family.

Was just going to post this.

[Doktor_Jeep]

Nancy Pelosi and Hilary Clinton are proof that some of the men might have had sex with those dinosaurs.

[LJHudd]

I've seen more evidence for the co-existence of humans and dinosaurs (http://www.bible.ca/tracks/dino-art.htm)

than I've seen for the theory of evolution.

(and yes, not just on this ^ website - I have seen some of these artifacts as I know one of the people who discovered some of them - as well as the tracks of human foot prints w/ dino foot prints)

[Monolithic]

I've seen more evidence for the co-existence of humans and dinosaurs (http://www.bible.ca/tracks/dino-art.htm)

than I've seen for the theory of evolution.

(and yes, not just on this ^ website - I have seen some of these artifacts as I know one of the people who discovered some of them - as well as the tracks of human foot prints w/ dino foot prints)

oh my god you actually believe that human foot prints with dino foot prints shit

ahahhaha

also it's easy to see you've seen more evidence for one thing rather than the other when you close your eyes and plug your ears and yell "ITS NOT THERE ITS NOT THERE" when there's proof fucking everywhere

[tmosley]

I've seen more evidence for the co-existence of humans and dinosaurs (http://www.bible.ca/tracks/dino-art.htm)

than I've seen for the theory of evolution.

(and yes, not just on this ^ website - I have seen some of these artifacts as I know one of the people who discovered some of them - as well as the tracks of human foot prints w/ dino foot prints)

If you haven't seen evidence for evolution, you haven't been looking very hard. Ever heard of MRSA? How about the fact that snakes in Australia have evolved to have smaller heads since the introduction of the poisonous cane toad? How about the fact that we can trace genealogy and propagation of mutations back tens of thousands of years?

If you believe in reality, you believe in evolution. It's only a theory in the same way that gravity is a theory.

Of course, if you believe there is a giant magic man in the sky that is constantly trying to fool you to "test your faith" by planting fossils, and creating misleading genomes, then that's up to you, but you seem pretty dumb to me.

[Fox McCloud]

I happen to agree with her, but that doesn't mean I like her or agree with her politics.


After all, what else explains the stories and the pottery+artifacts with large dinosaur-esque painting and carvings on them?

[Theocrat]

oh my god you actually believe that human foot prints with dino foot prints shit

ahahhaha

also it's easy to see you've seen more evidence for one thing rather than the other when you close your eyes and plug your ears and yell "ITS NOT THERE ITS NOT THERE" when there's proof fucking everywhere

It's pathetic how you can just laugh without first considering the evidence for what LJHudd has claimed. I'm not sure how much this will mean to you, but if you're really curious about some evidence for the man and dinosaur tracks found together, you need look no further than here (http://75.125.60.6/~creatio1/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=48&Itemid=24).

[kombayn]

It's pathetic how you can just laugh without first considering the evidence for what LJHudd has claimed. I'm not sure how much this will mean to you, but if you're really curious about some evidence for the man and dinosaur tracks found together, you need look no further than here (http://75.125.60.6/~creatio1/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=48&Itemid=24).

Science was never your friend was it, Theocrat? I would love to see a conversation between you and a scientist. That would be quite interesting...

[jmdrake]

Science was never your friend was it, Theocrat? I would love to see a conversation between you and a scientist. That would be quite interesting...

And here comes the circular reasoning. When scientists, no matter where they got their degrees from, questions evolution they are by definition called a "non scientist". You can question relativity, string theory, quantum mechanics etc, but don't question evolution or global warming or any other "political" science.

Regards,

John M. Drake

[Theocrat]

And here comes the circular reasoning. When scientists, no matter where they got their degrees from, questions evolution they are by definition called a "non scientist". You can question relativity, string theory, quantum mechanics etc, but don't question evolution or global warming or any other "political" science.

Regards,

John M. Drake

That's why evolutionists are just as dogmatic and religious about their scientific views as creationists.

[Truth Warrior]

It was probably all those "Flintstones" episodes shown in "government school" science classes. :p :rolleyes:

[Bison]

Why pay attention to this at all? Its just something that the media uses to distract from the real issues. Issues like losing our nations sovereignty among others.

And if you plan on voting for either Obama or McCain you just might be voting yourself right into Involuntary Military Service, otherwise known as the Draft.

Obama wants Draft http://therightperspective.com/wordpress/?p=129 and more here http://www.knowthelies.com/?q=node/2729

[tonesforjonesbones]

Well, the Theory of Evolution doesn't particularly bother me, but common sense tells me, if this was accurate, we could look out the window and see the process at work. I swear, I have never seen any sort of man looking like a neanderthol in 2008. Don't you think we could see it? Nope. I dont' really buy this theory. I DO believe the earth is millions of years old ...and I am a Christian. Tones

[Truth Warrior]

Why pay attention to this at all? Its just something that the media uses to distract from the real issues. Issues like losing our nations sovereignty among others.

And if you plan on voting for either Obama or McCain you just might be voting yourself right into Involuntary Military Service, otherwise known as the Draft.

Obama wants Draft http://therightperspective.com/wordpress/?p=129 and more here http://www.knowthelies.com/?q=node/2729 FEMA needs "camp" guards. ;)

[Monolithic]

Well, the Theory of Evolution doesn't particularly bother me, but common sense tells me, if this was accurate, we could look out the window and see the process at work. I swear, I have never seen any sort of man looking like a neanderthol in 2008. Don't you think we could see it? Nope. I dont' really buy this theory. I DO believe the earth is millions of years old ...and I am a Christian. Tones

uh, no, you couldn't see the process at work.

except maybe if you looked at bacteria all day

the point of evolution is it's slow, gradual change

and actually there are plenty of men who look like neanderthols in 2008

they usually have neckbeards and stay in their parents basements all day though, so that's why you never see them

[FrankRep]

I believe man and dinosaurs co-existed.

We used to call them dragons back in the day.

[libertarian4321]

http://www.latimes.com/news/politics/la-na-palinreligion28-2008sep28,0,3643718.story?track=rss



jesus christ, i'm considering voting obama/biden just because i'm so terrified of this woman

She is scary. I don't think McCain knew how utterly clueless and unprepared Palin is when he picked her.

If he did, and picked her anyway, he put his political ambitions ahead of what's best for the nation...

[libertarian4321]

Why pay attention to this at all? Its just something that the media uses to distract from the real issues. Issues like losing our nations sovereignty among others.

And if you plan on voting for either Obama or McCain you just might be voting yourself right into Involuntary Military Service, otherwise known as the Draft.

Obama wants Draft http://therightperspective.com/wordpress/?p=129 and more here http://www.knowthelies.com/?q=node/2729

John McWar is going to need warm bodies to "die for America" when he "liberates" Iran.

What option does McWar have, other than a draft?

[V-rod]

As long as taxes are low, and spending is reduced, and our rights are protected, she can believe in Scientology for all I care.

[Mini-Me]

While I don't like Sarah Palin, she isn't running for high school science teacher. Ron Paul himself questioned evolution during the campaign. (I'm painfully aware of this fact because some "supporters" on this forum acted like he was Satan himself for questioning their favorite theory). It's really a non issue.

Regards,

John M. Drake

It's a non-issue for Ron Paul because Ron Paul knows he has no right to shape the school curriculum of an entire nation. For ordinary politicians who believe in No Child Left Behind and federal supremacy on absolutely everything, well...it's a bit of a different story.

That said, there are indeed MUCH bigger issues to deal with. Besides, I'm open to the possibility that we're wrong about dinosaurs having entirely died out when we thought they did...for all we know, a few packs survived over the ages, and we finished them off either out of fear or because that's a LOT of meat to eat (e.g. herbivore dinosaurs would have been very tempting as prey). I'm not really qualified to argue this, but the photos of the stegosaurus carving are indeed thought-provoking. Furthermore, they are entirely valid empirical evidence that should belong in a scientific discussion unless they've been proven to be hoaxes, unlike scripture, which strictly belongs in religion class always and forever. In any case, both sides of the "debate" have a lot to gain from schools locally deciding curriculum, so nobody has to fear being censored in schools nationwide.

[Mini-Me]

Well, the Theory of Evolution doesn't particularly bother me, but common sense tells me, if this was accurate, we could look out the window and see the process at work. I swear, I have never seen any sort of man looking like a neanderthol in 2008. Don't you think we could see it? Nope. I dont' really buy this theory. I DO believe the earth is millions of years old ...and I am a Christian. Tones

We do see the process at work, but it's very slow...small changes over time accumulate. Within a cohesive population, you see gradual changes over the course of years, centuries, millenia, etc. It took hundreds of thousands of years for Neanderthals to evolve into us. When populations are separated from each other, people (and animals) will develop along different paths...although separate evolution is not always necessarily divergent, either. That's why Asians have slanted eyes, black people are black, white people are white, etc. We're still similar enough to be the same species and be able to reproduce with each other, but if we had remained separated from each other for another few hundred thousand years, we might have been incompatible by then, or at least we might have had some serious problems producing viable offspring (there's not really an arbitrary cutoff line between species - the line is blurry). Then again, who knows - we might even still be similar enough to Neanderthals that we'd be able to reproduce with them if any existed.

On the surface, you do raise a good point by mentioning there aren't any Neanderthals around anymore, whereas there are dogs, monkeys, spiders, etc. Why not Neanderthals? There are two explanations for this:
For one, as I said, cohesive populations tend to slowly evolve together, since we continue spreading our genes around and sharing them with each other. Second, over our history, we've had a tendency to band together based on our similarities and fight and kill groups that are different...

[nodope0695]

I believe in intelligent design (God made it all), and even I don't think the earth is that young. To assume the earth is only 6000 years old is a little naive to what science has shown us. And you don't have to believe in evolution (which I think is pure fiction) to believe the earth is very old.

[Aratus]

i know this is almost too late to crack an a. conan doyle "lost world' joke... yet there is a place where ancient dinosaurs rome about in their own preserve as if jurrasic parQ is the very normalcy topic of our own current events, continually. were sarah palin to be our veep, she'd be having sleepy afternoons presiding over our senate... (can we blame her for thinking dinosaurs and mammals actually do co-exist??)

[Pauls' Revere]

Maybe Palin will point to the Gieco ads as proof that she's right. She probably believes those guys are real cavemen.

Thier not?
:(

[TurtleBurger]

The answer to this is easy and the same as the answer to any other question:
LET THE FREE MARKET DECIDE.

If evolution is the superior paradigm, then bring the technologies produced from evolutionary research to the market and see who buys them. Same with intelligent design. There's no reason this battle should be fought in courtrooms and classrooms. Whoever wins in the marketplace is right, and the loser will go bankrupt and go away.

[Monolithic]

The answer to this is easy and the same as the answer to any other question:
LET THE FREE MARKET DECIDE.

If evolution is the superior paradigm, then bring the technologies produced from evolutionary research to the market and see who buys them. Same with intelligent design. There's no reason this battle should be fought in courtrooms and classrooms. Whoever wins in the marketplace is right, and the loser will go bankrupt and go away.

is this a joke

[TurtleBurger]

Yes.

My actual opinion is we should have the President give an executive order declaring which hypothesis everyone should believe, and throw everyone in jail who doesn't agree. :rolleyes:

[torchbearer]

http://kids.nationalgeographic.com/staticfiles/NGS/NGKids/Media/Image/Photo/zeb-hogan-alligator-gar-ga.jpg?

[dawnbt]

I guess I'm stupid because I do too.

Me too!