Raise your hand if you've changed your political ideology recently

[Knightskye]

There seems to be distrust over Barr because he used to be a neocon. Some people on this board still associate him with that title.

So my question is, have you changed your political ideology? Were you a neocon like Barr? Were you liberal, as I was?

[Andrew Ryan]

I was actually leaning towards Giuliani before I heard about RP......

[Knightskye]

I was actually leaning towards Giuliani before I heard about RP......

I was leaning toward Obama.

[FrankRep]

I voted for Bush in 2004. Guess I was a neocon.

Sorry everyone.

[zeke105]

I was a democrat until I "woke up" from my ignorant bliss. Now, officially, I'm independent, but I did switch to Republican so I could vote for RP in the primaries.

[olehounddog]

recovering neocon here.:p

[QueenB4Liberty]

I was leaning toward Obama.

me too!!

[kc8yds]

i was -nothing- and did not plan on being anything until seeing all the stories during the ron paul take over of digg and then when the debates started..

:)

[jwsherrod]

I was raised in a typical Republican family, and regretfully voted for George Bush in 2000 and 2004. Right before the 2004 election is when I started waking up. From there until then I've gone through an ongoing transformation. Voting in 2000 for Bush was automatic for me, though in 2004 I was no so comfortable with it. The 2004 election allowed me to decide to never again vote out of fear. Since then I've learned a lot about libertarian philosophy. I'm not sure that term completely defines me, but it's the closest label that fits me.

The issue with Barr for me is that he seems to be headed in the right direction, but is not there yet. I hope one day he will be, but in the meantime I fear that The Libertarian Policy sold out for a candidate with name recognition. I was already a Chuck Baldwin supporter after Ron's campaign ended, but Barr's actions recently toward Ron Paul have showed him to be lacking in the character department.

[blocks]

I was a socialist Democrat until about 2 years ago. But I was only 19, growing up in Northern California. Thats my excuse and I'm sticking with it. ;)

[Lovecraftian4Paul]

I used to lean more toward the left, but always had a huge disdain for the two major parties. I voted for Nader in 2004. Afterwards, I drifted away from liberalism and became apathetic until the Good Doctor hit me like a bolt of lightning!

[Knightskye]

I was a socialist Democrat until about 2 years ago. But I was only 19, growing up in Northern California. Thats my excuse and I'm sticking with it. ;)

Heh. You are excused. :D

[Uriel999]

While in 04 I voted bush, and was mostly a neocon I still had an underlying libertarian ideology I just didn't realize. On foreign policy I was definitely neocon, but RP woke me up. BTW I just want to thank Mark Emery for turning me on to Ron Paul. Thats right the editor or Cannabis Culture showed me RP while he was still on his exploratory comity.

[Brassmouth]

I was a Mike Gravel supporter (in the Democratic primaries) :eek:

Then I shifted to Dr. Paul early on, over a year ago.

Interesting how the beginning of my understanding of economics coincided with my shift over to libertarianism.

[mudhoney]

I was a young naive democrat in 2004. After realizing that the Democrats were not doing the things I supported them for (end war, protect civil liberties), I got into Libertarianism. It took about 2 years of passive research to really 'get' Libertarian ideas. At that time, Ron Paul came along, and I became entirely convinced of the principles of liberty. Now here I am. I feel like a new person.

[Alawn]

Trusting him 100% on his changes he is still only kind of libertarian but not a neocon. He is way better than what we have in Washington but not as libertarian as I would like. I would say a couple years ago I was fairly libertarian but was for the war and considered myself a republican and hated democrats.

[Kevin_Kennedy]

I was apathetic towards politics. Though being raised in a Democrat household I wanted Al Gore and then John Kerry to win, but luckily I was not old enough to vote at the time. :D

[Aldanga]

When I first heard about Dr. Paul on a message board, I went to see his site. I loved everything he said, from totally free markets to States' Rights. My only issue was his disdain for the war, but I was willing to listen to him. I figured he was a really small player and I wouldn't hear about him ever again, so I put the thought to the back of my mind.

After about three months, in August of 2007, I started to look into Dr. Paul again. I had been questioning all of the things previously that I knew didn't make logical sense, but that I was told I couldn't question. Once I started to think about these things, making the cases for and against them, I found myself on the side of Dr. Paul.

This is from whence I came.

[Expatriate]

Well, I guess I used to be a libertarian who supported Bush because he seemed better than the token socialist.:rolleyes:


While in 04 I voted bush, and was mostly a neocon I still had an underlying libertarian ideology I just didn't realize. On foreign policy I was definitely neocon, but RP woke me up. BTW I just want to thank Mark Emery for turning me on to Ron Paul. Thats right the editor or Cannabis Culture showed me RP while he was still on his exploratory comity.

You hear what happened to Marc Emery? Even though he's a Canadian living in Canada the U.S. took him out for selling pot seeds.
http://www.westernstandard.ca/website/article.php?id=2705




hmm...

[V4Vendetta]

I was actually leaning towards Giuliani before I heard about RP......

and we have a true success story!

A mindless, programmed, sheep, converted!

Its always good to see the converts come out of the woods.

[Orgoonian]

Great thread!

I looked up some of my old posts from the past,to determine my change of heart.
I used to hang out on the Excite board political section.



10/27/04 03:37pm Reply
I kept my promise to my state elected leaders this morning,i voted againsed them.They recently stripped another right from me,and as i promised them in my letters,they lost my vote that they have enjoyed for more than 20 years.


During the past few years,i have been wondering what a conservative is nowadays.It seems that the definition has changed.I no longer see "conservatives"talking about fiscal responsibility.I no longer see "conservatives" fighting againsed government intrusion into our lives,and systematicly stripping away our rights.Instead i see "conservatives" supporting huge spending,huge governmental growth,more governmental intrusion,and stripping away my freedoms.I see conservatives advocating nation building,and conquesting to promote THIER idea of freedom across the globe.The only conservative values i see anymore is the idea that schools must be accountable for thier functions,and lower taxes.


Last year i left my beloved Republican party because of what i percieved as the new conservative movement,and the growing power of the religious right.How in the heck could a conservative ever create such an abomination as the "Patriot Act"?To me,the party has abandoned traditionalists like myself,and became the party of anger,and moral outrage.I still agreed with the GOP platform,but,that too seemed to be abandoned.Instead of balancing the issue of church,and state,conservatives seem to embrace the idea of a merger.Take a look at the faith based initiative.By allowing church into state affairs,we run the risk,and high probability of a disasterous historical repeat.This of course is the agenda of the religious right,as they are not a collection of various beliefs,rather they are of one mind,and church.End result,Inqusition time again.


I support the war on terror,but i no longer support the way we are going about it.We are in effect,reinacting the crusades under the guise of "spreading GOD's gift of freedom throughout the world".My opinion on this has changed in the past few weeks.I used to support the President in this enterprise,but a few free thinkers on this board have shown me a different perspective.I pray that we stop with Iraq,i really do.


As a conservative,i am ashamed that i help bring into being NAFTA,that did nothing but hurt our American workers,and small businesses.I am ashamed that i blindly supported candidates that stripped me of my freedoms,simply because they hid under the guise of "conservative".I am ashamed that i didnt realize that my party had been taken over by extremeists long before i did.


I guess i am not a conservative after all,i voted Libertarian.

[Indy4Chng]

I voted for Bush in 2000 and 2004... I always considered myself a fiscal conservative and so I had to vote for Bush (I thought)... I was pretty pissed at him about the Medicare/Medicaid thing and how he had not finished the war in 2004 and the deficit spending...however I thought he had just done it to get re-elected and would go back to his conservative ways in his last term... all I can say is I have learned from this mistake... this will be my first third party vote for president. Both Gore and Kerry would have been more fiscally conservative than Bush the fiscal socialist.

I learned about Paul this year after supporting Romney in the primaries for his business background. I didn't watch the debates, but found him while searching for a third party candidate to support. Now I am a hardcore small "l" libertarian.

[anaconda]

I voted for Bush in 2004. Guess I was a neocon.

Sorry everyone.

Just don't let it happen again. :-)

[e-ville]

It all started with Jessie Ventura, he kind of woke me up to the fact that there were more than 2 parties.. and that you didnt have to be with a party at all to be good, Ventura was kind of odd, minimal fiscally, semi socialistic, yet no pork and BS, it worked well, I voted for him for Gov. of MN , and he won, and did a decent job. After that it seems I always looked for the other candidates before I looked at the main stream medias candidates.

I considered my self a independant, libritarian, democrat before learning of Ron Paul, I leaned Libritarian and Independant, but also voted democratic many times as it was better than the alternitive.. you know the lesser of the evils thing..

I woke up after Ventura got in office.

Now I vote for the best candidate no matter what party or organization there with.

[Joseph Hart]

I was leaning toward Obama.

I was leaning off a cliff before I heard about Ron Paul

[kombayn]

I was originally into Barack Obama until I saw Ron Paul featured on Bill Maher. Fell in love with him after that and expanded my knowledge toward politics.

[mitty]

There seems to be distrust over Barr because he used to be a neocon. Some people on this board still associate him with that title.

So my question is, have you changed your political ideology? Were you a neocon like Barr? Were you liberal, as I was?

people dont trust barr because he hasn't done anything to make people trust him. it has nothing to do with simply hes changed his ideology.

no ive not changed my ideology recently

[kathy88]

Voted Libertarian since 1988. Took one for the team and switched to R to vote for RP this primary season.

[Knightskye]

Awesome. :) Keep going, guys.


I was leaning off a cliff before I heard about Ron Paul

Hahahahaha.

[Knightskye]

Bump. You're not alone!

[Knightskye]

:cool:

[MoneyWhereMyMouthIs2]

There seems to be distrust over Barr because he used to be a neocon. Some people on this board still associate him with that title.

So my question is, have you changed your political ideology? Were you a neocon like Barr? Were you liberal, as I was?

I voted for Harry Browne. So, what do you call recent?

I'll NEVER vote for a drug warrior like Bob Barr. But I might have to vote for the Libertarian Party this year since Barr is trying to destroy it. :mad:

[Pete]

Hahaha, good thread. Here's an old message board post of mine, from 11/18/05:


My view on Iraq is that though the strike on Saddam was somewhat pre-emptive, we did have the problem of his likelihood of going back into full-scale weapons manufacture once the embargo was lifted. Lets remember that peaceniks were whining about lifting the embargo, at the same time Saddam was disobeying the terms of his 1993 surrender, a difficult stalemate that could have lasted how long? Also, Saddam was directing a lot of anti-US hatred, as was Iran who seems to have STFU for the time being. He was also paying $25,000 rewards to families of suicide bombers in Israel, which is our ally; these bombings have stopped with the toppling of Saddam.

I personally feel that if Saddam were allowed to gestate, we would ultimately see more losses of American lives, and countless losses of life among US friendlies in the region. Possibly, Iraq would form a bloc with neighboring states for purposes of increased aggression. These people are still POd about the fall of the Ottoman empire!

As it is, we have gained respect in the ME (not to be too ethnographical, but Arabs respect power), have hopes of growing an ally in the form of a glittering new democratic republic, and we have an unimpeded source of oil. Not too shabby, IMO. For the record, let me state that we must reduce our dependence on foreign oil and other imports, lest someone misapprehend that I think oil is worth going to war for.

[Kludge]

Former conservative. Almost instantly leaped to being an anarcho-capitalist, with a quick change into a Voluntaryist. Then moved on to being a Minarchist and have finally arrived at being a Classical Liberal.

This is all within the past year and a half.

[constituent]

yes, i have now moved from unprincipled (voting) anarchist, to a principled (non-voting) anarchist.

[constituent]

Former conservative. Almost instantly leaped to being an anarcho-capitalist, with a quick change into a Voluntaryist. Then moved on to being a Minarchist and have finally arrived at being a Classical Liberal.

This is all within the past year and a half.

dude, better fix the headline on your site before i gave to put it in my sig.

;):):D

[AggieforPaul]

I was a neo-con deciding if I should vote for Giuliani in spite of his social liberalism. Then I saw Paul take him on over the causes of 9/11. At first I sided with Giuliani, but when i read more about it, I realized RP was right.

[Kludge]

dude, better fix the headline on your site before i gave to put it in my sig.

;):):D

Took me a few minutes, but I finally noticed ;)

Thanks.

[Knightskye]

I voted for Harry Browne. So, what do you call recent?

Try me.


Hahaha, good thread. Here's an old message board post of mine, from 11/18/05:

Thank you, and thanks for sharing. :D

[Knightskye]

Bump. Share your stories!

[jyakulis]

Prior to seeing Ron Paul I had never voted. I was never sure of my political persuasion but tended to agree with the conservative rhetoric much moreso. However, I noticed they never did what they said they would do. Then finally I took a political quiz one year and came up libertarian, but I still never really cared until I came across Ron Paul.

[ihsv]

I've never actually voted before. I didn't vote for Bush in 2000 because I knew his pappy was a globalist, and I made a conscious decision NOT to vote in 2004 because of the war. I was opposed to the war when they first starting pushing it because I saw it to be unjust.

I guess what saved me was my family shut the TV off for good in 1984, so I missed 24 years of mental programming :)

When I heard that Dr. Paul was running, I took a peak at his platform and identified with it immediately.

Never got involved in politics before that, because I was aware of the NWO scheme and knew 99% of politicians were either actively involved or useful idiots.

[self-evident]

This is like an AA meeting or something.

I totally bought into the neocon agenda. I was all for Giuliani's supposedly social liberalism, fiscal conservatism, and go-get-'em foreign policy. Then in early 2007, a high school acquaintance that I was friends with on Facebook constantly updated his status about some guy named Ron Paul. I actually defriended the poor bastard because it was so relentless. But then I kept seeing Ron Paul's name on Digg, and if I hadn't recognized his name from my Facebook friend, I wouldn't have acted on my curiosity.

I was wary of RP's foreign policy stance since it was so different from Giuliani's, but I bought his book anyway, since I figured if he made so much sense on everything else, I might as well give his other views a chance.

The Revolution: A Manifesto changed my life.

[Orgoonian]

This is like an AA meeting or something.

I totally bought into the neocon agenda. I was all for Giuliani's supposedly social liberalism, fiscal conservatism, and go-get-'em foreign policy. Then in early 2007, a high school acquaintance that I was friends with on Facebook constantly updated his status about some guy named Ron Paul. I actually defriended the poor bastard because it was so relentless. But then I kept seeing Ron Paul's name on Digg, and if I hadn't recognized his name from my Facebook friend, I wouldn't have acted on my curiosity.

I was wary of RP's foreign policy stance since it was so different from Giuliani's, but I bought his book anyway, since I figured if he made so much sense on everything else, I might as well give his other views a chance.

The Revolution: A Manifesto changed my life.

Preach on brotha,preach on!!

[Knightskye]

This is like an AA meeting or something.

Hi, Self! :p


I totally bought into the neocon agenda. I was all for Giuliani's supposedly social liberalism, fiscal conservatism, and go-get-'em foreign policy. Then in early 2007, a high school acquaintance that I was friends with on Facebook constantly updated his status about some guy named Ron Paul. I actually defriended the poor bastard because it was so relentless. But then I kept seeing Ron Paul's name on Digg, and if I hadn't recognized his name from my Facebook friend, I wouldn't have acted on my curiosity.

I was wary of RP's foreign policy stance since it was so different from Giuliani's, but I bought his book anyway, since I figured if he made so much sense on everything else, I might as well give his other views a chance.

The Revolution: A Manifesto changed my life.

This is a good testimony for his book.

Spread the message, people!

[yongrel]

I became a Hello Kitty-ocrat sometime in the last few months.

[bunklocoempire]

I love these threads.

People who are not afraid of self examination. People who are not afraid of "bad news", reality, or the logical conclusion if one does not change their own ways or their Country's policies.

Fellow Patriots, you make me proud and give me strength, thank you.

I've told my story before in another thread, but here it is again.

Republican voter all my life with plenty apathy. Realized the truth of how the war was being fought and why it was being fought that way. Saw Ron Paul on the Daily Show and looked him up, saw him at that debate where Rudy and all belittled him

(the first one), did more research, worked through my knee-jerk reactions, became a Patriot.

Ron Paul was the first politician I've ever heard that wasn't afraid to tell me bad news, what the true cause of that bad news was, and, what needed to be done to change it according to our Constitution and Bill of Rights which we ALL share.



Bunkloco:)

[TheTyke]

Hmm, growing up reading The New American I had basically the same outlook as Ron Paul. However, reading The Revolution really helped clarify my thinking. His explainations on the "drug war" and even foreign policy really sharpened my views, and I am now an outspoken opponent of the "drug war" and interventionism.

[Anti Federalist]

I became a Hello Kitty-ocrat sometime in the last few months.

http://www.glamguns.com/hk47.jpg

[gilliganscorner]

Hand raised.

I started reading RP's speeches to Congress about 3 years ago. I was AMAZED, "There really is a guy like that in Congress?!? Wow."

I even printed some of them out and left on the lunch table at work with a sticky on it that said, "This man speaks truth. No one must be listening or they would have killed him by now."

The principles of his message were astoundingly simple. No spin. No fluff. No pandering. Freedom. Liberty. Recognition of the individual. Sound money. Limited government. The perils of State meddling. As I progressed through things, I discovered agorism, what I consider to be the end "goalposts" if you will as to what we should be striving for. Inter-dependency without forced dependency. I found blogs that really interesting me.

Then I found this]:



* I wish no power over you.
* I wish that you have no power over me.
* Where I have power over you, I shall seek to renounce it.
* Where you have power over me, I shall pray that you renounce it, and so long as it be extant, I shall condemn it.
* Where there are those who would try to give me power over you, I shall denounce them and condemn them.
* Where there are those who would try to give you power over me, I shall laugh at them and condemn them.
* Where you would use force to sustain any putative power relationship over me, I shall condemn you and resist you, and call to my brethren in our struggle against you.
* Where a tyrant, a majority, a plurality, or a minority presume to grant you power over me, or over anyone else, I shall condemn it, resist it, renounce it and denounce it.
* Where there are those who are subjugated beneath the boot heel of power, by “democratic” means or otherwise, I shall support their resistance, their condemnation, their denunciation and their renunciation.
* I shall make no compromise with evil.


From an ideological perspective, I find no fault with this. Guess what. It was an Anarchist's self-proclaimed declaration (http://www.nostate.com/an-anarchists-declaration/).

Does that make me an Anarchist? I don't know, as I struggle with conceptualizing the implementation of the above. But it is riveting, at least to me.

However, all of this started with a old country doctor Congressman from Texas.

My debased fiat two-cents.

[SnappleLlama]

Not really. Ron Paul just helped to draw out what was already inside of me.

I was raised in a fiscally conservative household by my Republican parents. As a result, I grew up thinking all Democrats were bad news, and it wasn't until I was in my late teens that I realized that the world wasn't entirely black and white. I had formerly been a registered Republican, but I then left the GOP to become an unaffiliated voter, which I remain to this day.

Not all Democrats are bad. Not all Republicans are good. It behooves everyone to dispense with labels and focus on principles. These are the things I've learned. It took one viewing of a Ron Paul YouTube video for me to exclaim, "YEAH! That's what I believe, too! Where did this guy come from?!" He was able to articulate the same thoughts I had rattling around in my noggin for quite some time.

Dr. Paul's good like that :)

[Kade]

I was leaning heavily towards Ron Paul and classical liberalism until I joined the RPF.

Now, I'm a bit more liberal, and increasingly so as the carcasses of lay thinkers fall at my feet.

[kojirodensetsu]

Until I had heard of Ron Paul I was a moderate democrat.

[Carole]

I was leaning off a cliff before I heard about Ron Paul
I was actually leaning over a toilet bowl because I was so sick of them all until last summer when I discovered Dr. Paul. :)

[OReich]

I was a liberal for Bush (pro-war) just three-ish years ago, but now I'm a hardcore libertarian. Hearing how many of us "converted" just recently makes me very optimistic about the future.

This is my first visit to RonPaulForums in a while, and I feel compelled to say "WHEN THE HELL IS PENN JILLETTE GONNA RUN FOR OFFICE!!! TEAR D.C. A NEW ONE!"

[Kade]

I was a liberal for Bush (pro-war) just three-ish years ago, but now I'm a hardcore libertarian. Hearing how many of us "converted" just recently makes me very optimistic about the future.

This is my first visit to RonPaulForums in a while, and I feel compelled to say "WHEN THE HELL IS PENN JILLETTE GONNA RUN FOR OFFICE!!! TEAR D.C. A NEW ONE!"

Penn Jillete is a sensible atheist liberal libertarian.

Those people are not welcome here.

[Rhys]

I was an empirialist because of my studies of ancient empires, I didn't like the path we were on because we're more clossly associated with the end of an empire, rather than it's height... and poof, there's ron paul on youtube spelling out what's wrong and why!

God, to think of what I've read since that night on the computer with nothing to do.... hayek and mises and I'm reading about the Stoics now.... so much change, so fast! head...going....to....explode.....

[JosephTheLibertarian]

my political evolution:

politically apathetic, most of my life, with a few emotionally driven positions

mixture supporter of nazism/fascism, sympathized with them, was a member of the National Alliance and attended a few meetings

left, became politically apathetic again, for the most part

got into socialism, used to believe in that for awhile, thunk up some original ideas, like my old idea about turning society into one big penal system. the wardens as govenors, the supreme warden on top, the prison guards and the inmates. but it was different. I believed that prisoners that listened should be promoted to "prison guard" once openings were available. a self perpetuating system lol. I thought up a bunch of crazy things

got into hardlined communism

stumbled on libertarianism about 2 years ago, joined the LP, found out about Ron Paul and joined this forum

now I am leaning ancap...

[ProBlue33]

Neo-con pulling for Bush in 2000, 9/11 pulled me away from being a Neo-con as strange as that may sound, not Ron Paul. Basically I saw bigger issues at hand than my core conservative beliefs that go to how the world relates to America and how much it's spending oversea's on it's empire. And the war on terror is a joke.

So here is my time line

2000 Pro-Bush
2004 Anti-Bush, Pro-Kerry what other choice really was there?
2008 Anti-McCain first, then pro-Obama, then too Ron Paul convert, back to Obama after the RNC.

I agree with Ron Paul and Chuck Baldwin on almost every issue, not Obama, but since it's MORE important to keep McCain and his hot Bimbo from ever seeing the oval office than trying to make a political point or statement, thats where I stand right now.

[Knightskye]

I agree with Ron Paul and Chuck Baldwin on almost every issue, not Obama, but since it's MORE important to keep McCain and his hot Bimbo from ever seeing the oval office than trying to make a political point or statement, thats where I stand right now.

You don't think they both support the same ideas?

Even after watching this video?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u5WiE6MnmCM


Hearing how many of us "converted" just recently makes me very optimistic about the future.

:)

[bojo68]

>>>seriously considering another country, secession, etc. Former USA supporter.

[Knightskye]

Neo-con pulling for Bush in 2000

Bush didn't seem like a neocon in 2000.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F9SOVzMV2bc

[JosephTheLibertarian]

oh, and I used to be a huge supporter of direct democracy :)

[mediahasyou]

"WHEN THE HELL IS PENN JILLETTE GONNA RUN FOR OFFICE!!!"

Penn Jillette is an anarchist. Therefore, will not run for office.

[JosephTheLibertarian]

Penn Jillette is an anarchist. Therefore, will not run for office.

I've seen a market anarchist lady run for office...

[The Good Doctor]

Yes. I have leaned Democrat before Ron Paul. Not that I really changed my ideology, but I have learned to to trust any Democrat, Republican, or any Cabinet members (IE Henry Paulson), The Fed Reserve/Bernanke/Greenspan or Fed Govenment mouthpiece. It's hard for me to believe almost everything they say is a lie. 98% of them are crooks and lifetime politicians that like the lifestyle on the back of the taxpayer. I have never been more angry than I am now about the job they are doing to ruin this country.

About the only guys I will listen to anymore are Ron Paul, Peter Schiff, Jim Rogers, The Judge, Jesse Ventura, Martin Weiss and maybe a few of the honest politicians in Washington/financial people. There might be a few I missed like Marcy Kaptur, Brad Sherman, Russ Feingold (sometimes), and Kucinich.


There seems to be distrust over Barr because he used to be a neocon. Some people on this board still associate him with that title.

So my question is, have you changed your political ideology? Were you a neocon like Barr? Were you liberal, as I was?

[Scotso]

I'm not sure it's recent, but up until about 4 years ago, I was convinced that socialism was the answer. I voted for Kucinich in the Democratic primaries.

I'm not sure if I really was a socialist, or I just thought I was. It was basically the idiocy of many liberals that pushed me out of that camp, and from there my ideology just consistantly went further and further into the libertarian realm.

[chowdy]

Moderate turned libertarian turned market anarchist.

[mport1]

I was a minarchist and now I am an anarchist.

[RevolutionSD]

There seems to be distrust over Barr because he used to be a neocon. Some people on this board still associate him with that title.

So my question is, have you changed your political ideology? Were you a neocon like Barr? Were you liberal, as I was?

I have changed. I went from libertarian (small 'l') to anarcho-capitalist after the RP campaign.

[mport1]

Good to see others transitioning to supporting total freedom. I feel that many new people to the liberty message will be with us within a few years.

[Knightskye]

Good to see others transitioning to supporting total freedom. I feel that many new people to the liberty message will be with us within a few years.

The Jefferson staters, at least. :D

[Knightskye]

Bump for your opinions.