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dannno
09-24-2008, 03:11 PM
Is it worth it?

The person is close to retirement age.

yongrel
09-24-2008, 03:12 PM
Asking the internet for advice on serious subjects is almost always a bad idea.

dannno
09-24-2008, 03:16 PM
Asking the internet for advice on serious subjects is almost always a bad idea.

I think it depends on how serious the person asking for advise plans to take the responses.

ItsTime
09-24-2008, 03:16 PM
I would always take a house over a 401k

Mister Grieves
09-24-2008, 03:25 PM
I would always take a house over a 401kNo doubt about it.

misericordia
09-24-2008, 03:37 PM
edited . I have seen much better answers than mine here, in the following replies.

noxagol
09-24-2008, 03:42 PM
Wipe out 401k to pay off house, or have it sit around to be wiped out by inflation...

johnrocks
09-24-2008, 03:51 PM
If you have a fixed rate mortgage, why pay it off? Your screwing them if you have say a 5% interest rate and inflation is at 20%. If you want my advice I would do different things depending on your age, are you over or under 59 1/2?

dannno
09-24-2008, 04:06 PM
If you have a fixed rate mortgage, why pay it off? Your screwing them if you have say a 5% interest rate and inflation is at 20%. If you want my advice I would do different things depending on your age, are you over or under 59 1/2?

It's not me, but yes, they are within 1-2 years of retirement (63 or 64... 65 is still the official retirement age ya?).

I guess the only reason to sell the 401k is assuming that it will not have much value in the near future.. but neither will dollars, and those will be easier to acquire (in singular form) in the future.

Sounds like it might be a good idea to sell the 401k, buy gold and keep making payments on the house.

cbc58
09-24-2008, 04:08 PM
how can you sell off your 401k and put it into your house?

dannno
09-24-2008, 04:12 PM
how can you sell off your 401k and put it into your house?

With penalties.. which sucks since they are so close to retirement age and would not incur them otherwise.

I don't have many details, was just trying to get a feel what other people around here thought about the question in general.

There's a chance that the penalties aren't that bad considering they are so close to retirement age, I just don't know.

dannno
09-24-2008, 04:14 PM
I guess the next question would be:

"What is the best option, if any for investing in gold within your 401k?"

ItsTime
09-24-2008, 04:17 PM
cash out the 401k and buy a house made of gold, two birds one stone

Josh_LA
09-24-2008, 04:24 PM
Is it worth it?

The person is close to retirement age.

if you can sell your 401k, cash out with minimal penalties and secure it to something solid, like a house or a bunch of gold bricks, go for it. No point in taking a penalty if you're not going for a good investment, getting rid of debt or a safer deposit.

noxagol
09-24-2008, 04:44 PM
Well, if they are this close to retirement, why not just wait and cash out after they retire to pay off the house?

torchbearer
09-24-2008, 04:46 PM
Well, if they are this close to retirement, why not just wait and cash out after they retire to pay off the house?

How long do we have before a dollar crash? are we in one right now?

dannno
09-24-2008, 04:53 PM
How long do we have before a dollar crash? are we in one right now?

yep, that's the dilemma..

I'm hoping that their penalties have been reduced and are insignificant so that they can control their own money and investments.. but if that's not the case then it becomes a tough decision.

porcupine
09-24-2008, 05:26 PM
It depends on how close they are to retirement. Now would be the time to sell. If the market collapses, they'll lose the house. If they have it paid off, they'll keep it.

ARealConservative
09-24-2008, 05:37 PM
this would be stupid.

roll the 401k into precious metals (not a cash out) and continue paying off the house at the extremely low interest rate set by the central bankers.

Zippyjuan
09-24-2008, 08:07 PM
Since he is over 59 1/2 I think he can avoid the 10% penalty- but will still have to pay taxes on the amount. That can mean losing 25% off the top of what he has already saved. His mortgage has to be considerably lower than this so he will definaltely lose money by doing so. If the 401k is money he is going to need in retirement that would be an even greater reason not to do it. If he does not need the money for retirement, that too is an arguement not to take it out now since he will be able to tap it without any penalty in a couple or few years.

Most retirement programs will be taking a hit these days so he may have to work longer than he thinks. Talk it over with a financial planner. His company should have someone he can talk to who administers the plan about just what it will cost him to take the money now vs waiting. Another alternative would be to stop contributing to the 401k and put that money towards the mortgage.

Having a home paid for is a big help when you are retired and have lowered or no income. I plan to have mine paid in a few more years- more than a decade before I retire.

Dr.3D
09-24-2008, 08:27 PM
The big problem with owning a house flat out is that you still have to pay the darned property taxes. If the person doesn't have a job and hardly any income, what is to say the house doesn't get taken for lack of payment of the property taxes?

Is the value of the house and property going to go down so much that the property taxes are almost non existent?

After all of those thing, you still have the heating bill and the utilities bills. (not to mention maintenance)

Seems no matter what you do, you are going to have to pay for the rest of your life even if you already have everything paid off.

Bruno
09-24-2008, 08:35 PM
The big problem with owning a house flat out is that you still have to pay the darned property taxes. If the person doesn't have a job and hardly any income, what is to say the house doesn't get taken for lack of payment of the property taxes?

Is the value of the house and property going to go down so much that the property taxes are almost non existent?

After all of those thing, you still have the heating bill and the utilities bills. (not to mention maintenance)

Seems no matter what you do, you are going to have to pay for the rest of your life even if you already have everything paid off.

Yep. Some people lose their home simply because the taxes became too high to afford, even if the house was paid for. Sucks.

muh_roads
09-24-2008, 08:58 PM
this would be stupid.

roll the 401k into precious metals (not a cash out) and continue paying off the house at the extremely low interest rate set by the central bankers.

This post is full of win.

Zippyjuan
09-25-2008, 01:00 AM
Paying property taxes is still cheaper than paying rent. Then you are paying somebody a profit to live in their home as well as their property taxes. I live in California where there are limits to how much they can raise your property taxes. They also do not automatically go up just because your neighbor sold his house for more than you paid for yours.