In America it's all about the corporate elite

[hope7134]

"In Afghanistan as in every war, corporations play a central role to protect their interestsówhether those interests are the profits from waging war or the geostrategic spoils of war

http://www.why-war.com/news/2002/07/17/warincor.html

wars, reconstruction, bail outs, gas prices etc....! It's all about the corporate elite

[Truth Warrior]

"In Afghanistan as in every war, corporations play a central role to protect their interestsówhether those interests are the profits from waging war or the geostrategic spoils of war

http://www.why-war.com/news/2002/07/17/warincor.html

wars, reconstruction, bail outs, gas prices etc....! It's all about the corporate elite The corporations are merely a symptom. It's TPTB AKA "Global Elite" and their agenda ( NWO ). ;)

[tonesforjonesbones]

Wars create debt which creates capital. There is no money without debt. Tones

[Truth Warrior]

Wars create debt which creates capital. There is no money without debt. Tones There was money BEFORE banksters. ;)

[tonesforjonesbones]

Yes but it was backed by something. I guess you could say the dollar is now backed by oil. Capital has to be created...permanent revolution. (creative destruction...out with the old products , in with the new) Capitalism. Tones

[Cleaner44]

Wars create debt which creates capital. There is no money without debt. Tones

There is most definetly money without debt.

Only with bankers has debt become the instrument of exchange.

[Truth Warrior]

Yes but it was backed by something. I guess you could say the dollar is now backed by oil. Capital has to be created...permanent revolution. (creative destruction...out with the old products , in with the new) Capitalism. Tones I'd say backed by "thin air". It's justa whole "house of cards" worldwide.<IMHO>

SIR JOSIAH STAMP, (President of the Bank of England in the 1920's, the second richest man in Britain)

"Banking was conceived in iniquity, and was born in sin. The Bankers own the Earth. Take it away from them, but leave them the power to create deposits, and with the flick of the pen, they will create enough deposits, to buy it back again. However, take it away from them, and all the great fortunes like mine will disappear, and they ought to disappear, for this would be a happier and better world to live in. But if you wish to remain the slaves of Bankers, and pay the cost of your own slavery, let them continue to create deposits."

"The issue which has swept down the centuries and which will have to be fought sooner or later is the people versus the banks." -- Lord Acton

[dannno]

There is most definetly money without debt.

Only with bankers has debt become the instrument of exchange.

No, there is no money without debt. Money is debt. Money is created as debt, and they do not create enough money to pay the interest. This interest is a tax on the population to the banks. That means all of the wealth the United States once had has now been turned over to the banks in the form of interest.

All new money is create as a bank loan. The constitution says that our government can create money for free without tagging on interest. Bankers don't benefit from this transaction, so they have created Central Banks throughout the world based on fiat currencies so that they can loan money to private banks and countries to start wars or run their social programs. Bankers figured out a long time ago that this is the most profitable enterprise in existence... to fund wars and socialism and collect the interest..

[tonesforjonesbones]

For the poster who says there IS money without debt Please watch this video called "Money as Debt" That's the way it is now. So sad but true. TONES

http://video.google.com/videosearch?q=money+as+debt&emb=0&aq=f#

[Truth Warrior]

No, there is no money without debt. Money is debt. Money is created as debt, and they do not create enough money to pay the interest. This interest is a tax on the population to the banks. That means all of the wealth the United States once had has now been turned over to the banks in the form of interest.

All new money is create as a bank loan. The constitution says that our government can create money for free without tagging on interest. Bankers don't benefit from this transaction, so they have created Central Banks throughout the world based on fiat currencies so that they can loan money to private banks and countries to start wars or run their social programs. Bankers figured out a long time ago that this is the most profitable enterprise in existence... to fund wars and socialism and collect the interest..


I Want The Earth Plus 5%
http://www.wepin.com/why/earthp5.html

;)

[heavenlyboy34]

No, there is no money without debt. Money is debt. Money is created as debt, and they do not create enough money to pay the interest. This interest is a tax on the population to the banks. That means all of the wealth the United States once had has now been turned over to the banks in the form of interest.

All new money is create as a bank loan. The constitution says that our government can create money for free without tagging on interest. Bankers don't benefit from this transaction, so they have created Central Banks throughout the world based on fiat currencies so that they can loan money to private banks and countries to start wars or run their social programs. Bankers figured out a long time ago that this is the most profitable enterprise in existence... to fund wars and socialism and collect the interest..

This is one of the sad failings of the constitution. :(

[heavenlyboy34]

No, there is no money without debt. Money is debt. Money is created as debt, and they do not create enough money to pay the interest. This interest is a tax on the population to the banks. That means all of the wealth the United States once had has now been turned over to the banks in the form of interest.

All new money is create as a bank loan. The constitution says that our government can create money for free without tagging on interest. Bankers don't benefit from this transaction, so they have created Central Banks throughout the world based on fiat currencies so that they can loan money to private banks and countries to start wars or run their social programs. Bankers figured out a long time ago that this is the most profitable enterprise in existence... to fund wars and socialism and collect the interest..

what about "barter dollars"? These are (to my knowlege) backed by a commodity.

[Cleaner44]

No, there is no money without debt. Money is debt. Money is created as debt, and they do not create enough money to pay the interest. This interest is a tax on the population to the banks. That means all of the wealth the United States once had has now been turned over to the banks in the form of interest.

All new money is create as a bank loan. The constitution says that our government can create money for free without tagging on interest. Bankers don't benefit from this transaction, so they have created Central Banks throughout the world based on fiat currencies so that they can loan money to private banks and countries to start wars or run their social programs. Bankers figured out a long time ago that this is the most profitable enterprise in existence... to fund wars and socialism and collect the interest..

You seem to be confusing Federal Reserve Notes with money.