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cska80
09-22-2008, 09:13 AM
Amazing. Today, Glenn Beck now says we must do this multi-trillion dollar bailout. That's a pretty big turnaround from last week. Who got to him? No speaking about the Fed today, only Congress.

Ozwest
09-22-2008, 09:15 AM
Beck is a wanker.

Why are you surprised?

jarofclay
09-22-2008, 09:16 AM
Amazing. Today, Glenn Beck now says we must do this multi-trillion dollar bailout. That's a pretty big turnaround from last week. Who got to him? No speaking about the Fed today, only Congress.

His kids. His wife.


Nobody wants to believe the US of A will turn into a banana republic. We would rather get out the paddles and shock the crap of this dead body to see if we can make it live at whatever the cost.

You want our guns, but will give us food? Sure!!! The day is coming.

rockandrollsouls
09-22-2008, 09:22 AM
time to email him and call him a socialist traitor. that boils my blood.

FrankRep
09-22-2008, 09:25 AM
This is all a big game to get higher ratings.
Don't fall for Beck's crap, he's not on our side.

LibertyEagle
09-22-2008, 09:26 AM
time to email him and call him a socialist traitor. that boils my blood.

How about instead, pointing out how he changed his tune? Cussing someone out doesn't accomplish anything, besides making you personally feel better.

MRoCkEd
09-22-2008, 09:26 AM
Damnit glenn..

FrankRep
09-22-2008, 09:27 AM
time to email him and call him a socialist traitor. that boils my blood.
Then he'll claim that Ron Paul supporters are threatening him (being terrorists). Don't fall for the trap.

Ozwest
09-22-2008, 09:29 AM
His kids. His wife.


Nobody wants to believe the US of A will turn into a banana republic. We would rather get out the paddles and shock the crap of this dead body to see if we can make it live at whatever the cost.

You want our guns, but will give us food? Sure!!! The day is coming.

I'm an x-pat.

Come to Australia, or New Zealand.

We are wealthy and happy.

The average wage in West Australia is over 80,000 U.S. :)

Deborah K
09-22-2008, 09:29 AM
time to email him and call him a socialist traitor. that boils my blood.


NOOOOOooooooo! Don't do that!!! Bring him back around with calm logic! I've launched a campaign to get G.Edward Griffin on his show! Help me with that! Don't write him off. You don't know what kind of pressure he's under if the money power is breathing down his neck or what. We just don't know! Think strategically. It's NOT time to burn bridges.

AstroSamurai
09-22-2008, 09:31 AM
NOOOOOooooooo! Don't do that!!! Bring him back around with calm logic! I've launched a campaign to get G.Edward Griffin on his show! Help me with that! Don't write him off. You don't know what kind of pressure he's under if the money power is breathing down his neck or what. We just don't know! Think strategically. It's NOT time to burn bridges.

+700 Billion

fedup100
09-22-2008, 09:32 AM
I'm an x-pat.

Come to Australia, or New Zealand.

We are wealthy and happy.

The average wage in West Australia is over 80,000 U.S. :)

Would love to come mate but the spiders and snakes give me the willies!

Besides, I believe it to be very hard to immigrate there, or do you know the score on that issue?

Andrew-Austin
09-22-2008, 09:32 AM
lol, yes Griffin will come on his show and call him a socialist for saying that.

FrankRep
09-22-2008, 09:33 AM
NOOOOOooooooo! Don't do that!!! Bring him back around with calm logic! I've launched a campaign to get G.Edward Griffin on his show! Help me with that! Don't write him off. You don't know what kind of pressure he's under if the money power is breathing down his neck or what. We just don't know! Think strategically. It's NOT time to burn bridges.

+wisdom

FrankRep
09-22-2008, 09:34 AM
lol, yes Griffin will come on his show and call him a socialist for saying that.

He'll do it in a very eloquent and intelligent way.

HOLLYWOOD
09-22-2008, 09:38 AM
I'm an x-pat.

Come to Australia, or New Zealand.

We are wealthy and happy.

The average wage in West Australia is over 80,000 U.S. :)

Did you know, the U.S. has implemented that all U.S. Passports when checked, if anyone owes the U.S. money... Child support, alimony, palimony, taxes, criminal record thay are now arrested and held.


Welcome to the New World Order of the American REPUBLIC. aka EAST BERLIN

Jesse Ventura was right about one thing... building those border fences could someday be used, to keep AMERICANS inside.

It's now happening

qh4dotcom
09-22-2008, 09:41 AM
Any Youtube video of Beck flip-flopping on the bailouts?

Deborah K
09-22-2008, 09:42 AM
lol, yes Griffin will come on his show and call him a socialist for saying that.


Ed is too smart for that. And too classy I might add.

liberteebell
09-22-2008, 09:51 AM
NOOOOOooooooo! Don't do that!!! Bring him back around with calm logic! I've launched a campaign to get G.Edward Griffin on his show! Help me with that! Don't write him off. You don't know what kind of pressure he's under if the money power is breathing down his neck or what. We just don't know! Think strategically. It's NOT time to burn bridges.

+ maturity :)

angelatc
09-22-2008, 09:52 AM
Any Youtube video of Beck flip-flopping on the bailouts?

It is my understanding that he flipped on his radio show, not the television.

He did the exact same thing when he had Ron Paul on. He literally wanted to french kiss Paul on the show, then called him all kinds of names on his radio show the very next day.

Beck is, sadly, a psycho.

MRoCkEd
09-22-2008, 09:53 AM
And unfortunately his radio show gets more listeners I think.

Ozwest
09-22-2008, 09:55 AM
Would love to come mate but the spiders and snakes give me the willies!

Besides, I believe it to be very hard to immigrate there, or do you know the score on that issue?

Haha.

I lived in New Mexico for 6 years. :)

If you have two arms and two legs...

Come on down.

Australia is mind blowingly beautiful.

Hunting is probably not as good as in the States. We shoot water buffalo, crocs, and the best... Killer wild pigs. Serious shit.

I'm a fisherman. Fuck lifting weights, I am out of breath and strength reeling in 60 metres of line on some monster fish.

Good eating. For a dozen people.

Nothing will replace the Rocky Mountains, but it is wild country here.

Deborah K
09-22-2008, 09:56 AM
Haha.

I lived in New Mexico for 6 years. :)

If you have two arms and two legs...

Come on down.

Australia is mind blowingly beautiful.

Hunting is probably not as good as in the States. We shoot water buffalo, crocs, and the best... Killer wild pigs. Serious shit.

I'm a fisherman. Fuck lifting weights, I am out of breath and strength reeling in 60 metres of line on some monster fish.

Good eating. For a dozen people.

Nothing will replace the Rocky Mountains, but it is wild country here.

Can I bring my guns??? :eek:

Deborah K
09-22-2008, 10:01 AM
Beck is, sadly, a psycho.


I don't agree. He pisses me off, but I believe there's still hope. He's going through a certain amount of cognitive dissonance. Every one of us who used to be among the sleeping know exactly what I mean. It is extremely uncomfortable to be yanked out of your comfort zone. How many of us have cried, had sleepless nights, gotten really drunk, because we're so worried about our country? How many have said "Sometimes I wish I was still in the dark about all of this - I was a happier person." I know I tried like hell to prove this was all some conspiracy theory, but the more I researched the more I suffered.

Give him a chance. Help him along. He's the only one in the MSM who's close to getting it.

georgiaboy
09-22-2008, 10:01 AM
Griffin on Beck, great idea.

Ozwest
09-22-2008, 10:08 AM
Can I bring my guns??? :eek:

Probably.

About 16 years ago a guy killed about 20 people with a semi- automatic.

It freaked Australians out.

Laws were changed. Semi automatics are illegal without a license.

I own several weapons. Australia has a high gun ownership ratio.

But... It is not a big deal here. I like it that way.

FreedomRings
09-22-2008, 10:09 AM
Some of you guys are talking about Beck as if he were an independent entity that formed, maintained and changed its opinions out of its own accord. Isn't it obvious that he is little more than a puppet and that if he changed his line of propaganda, he simply did it because he was ordered to?

Ozwest
09-22-2008, 10:13 AM
Can I bring my guns??? :eek:

We are a continent the same size as America, with a population of 20 million people.

Go figure. :)

Deborah K
09-22-2008, 10:13 AM
Probably.

About 16 years ago a guy killed about 20 people with a semi- automatic.

It freaked Australians out.

Laws were changed. Semi automatics are illegal without a license.

I own several weapons. Australia has a high gun ownership ratio.

But... It is not a big deal here. I like it that way.

Aren't you only allowed to have hunting rifles? And don't you have to store them in a specific location other than your home?

While my husband and I were planning our "exit strategy" should this sicko gov't try to take our children through the draft, I researched Australia. Didn't like their gun policies and didn't like the high taxation factor. :(

I'm big on the 2nd amendment so I struggle with this. I just can't wrap my brain around not being able to protect myself and family should the need arise.

humanic
09-22-2008, 10:19 AM
NOOOOOooooooo! Don't do that!!! Bring him back around with calm logic! I've launched a campaign to get G.Edward Griffin on his show! Help me with that! Don't write him off. You don't know what kind of pressure he's under if the money power is breathing down his neck or what. We just don't know! Think strategically. It's NOT time to burn bridges.

Awesome! What's the strategy?

P.S. Did you read those essays (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?p=1679199&highlight=griffin#post1679199) yet? :)

tonesforjonesbones
09-22-2008, 10:19 AM
I'm sorry. I would be against the bailout if it only meant depression...people can survive it..but with this immoral society, within 5 days people would be killing other people for food...and they even predict cannibalism. Look at the crazy looting that went on in New Orleans after Katrina. Every man for himself! Americans are spoiled. I don't know many who would be able to "rough it". Also, if you use common sense, if they don't bail out the "big boys" what is that going to do to the small businesses? What is it going to do to us? Don't you realize that chit rolls downhill?? My irritation is that they are depending on the same idiots to FIX things who got us screwed up in the first place! sheesh. Tones

rockandrollsouls
09-22-2008, 10:19 AM
How about instead, pointing out how he changed his tune? Cussing someone out doesn't accomplish anything, besides making you personally feel better.

Liberty, you might want to research the meaning of "cussing" and do your job as moderator instead of trying to nit pick my posts. Where were you when the grassroots was being spammed with Barr threads?

This isn't the time for being polite. We are on the brink of a meltdown...These television personalities that mislead the American people with false information don't deserve polite words. My mission is to save my countrymen. I won't let people like Beck distort that.

Ozwest
09-22-2008, 10:21 AM
Aren't you only allowed to have hunting rifles? And don't you have to store them in a specific location other than your home?

While my husband and I were planning our "exit strategy" should this sicko gov't try to take our children through the draft, I researched Australia. Didn't like their gun policies and didn't like the high taxation factor. :(

I'm big on the 2nd amendment so I struggle with this. I just can't wrap my brain around not being able to protect myself and family should the need arise.

No. I store rifles and shotguns in my home. In a locked safe.

If you choose to own a handgun you can store it at your house, but you must be in a club.

It's different here. Guns are for shooting Roos, not people.

MusoSpuso
09-22-2008, 10:26 AM
I'm an x-pat.

Come to Australia, or New Zealand.

We are wealthy and happy.

The average wage in West Australia is over 80,000 U.S. :)

We (Americans) thought we were pretty wealthy and happy until it was too late. Heck, a lot of us still don't realize what's happening. But if you think it's going to be all peachy keen in Australia (or around the world) you may want to watch this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YsoeVL5biq8

Not saying I know for certain but it's definitely another perspective to think about. Especially because Peter Schiff has consistently been right just like Ron Paul about a lot of the economic garbage that's going on now :(

Ozwest
09-22-2008, 10:28 AM
Aren't you only allowed to have hunting rifles? And don't you have to store them in a specific location other than your home?

While my husband and I were planning our "exit strategy" should this sicko gov't try to take our children through the draft, I researched Australia. Didn't like their gun policies and didn't like the high taxation factor. :(

I'm big on the 2nd amendment so I struggle with this. I just can't wrap my brain around not being able to protect myself and family should the need arise.

I lived in Chicago for 9 years.

I own weapons. For sport.

It is rare for someone to shoot others.

I like that.

Ozwest
09-22-2008, 10:31 AM
We (Americans) thought we were pretty wealthy and happy until it was too late. Heck, a lot of us still don't realize what's happening. But if you think it's going to be all peachy keen in Australia (or around the world) you may want to watch this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YsoeVL5biq8

Not saying I know for certain but it's definitely another perspective to think about. Especially because Peter Schiff has consistently been right just like Ron Paul about a lot of the economic garbage that's going on now :(

Google it.

I ain't bullshitting you.:D

yoshimaroka
09-22-2008, 10:56 AM
Glen Beck is a part of showbiz. That's all it is. Coming from a Canadian perspective, I don't understand how these particular television talking heads in the U.S. can be taken seriously.

Glen Beck, Bill Maher, O'Reilly, Olbermann…etc.

Bruno
09-22-2008, 11:06 AM
This is a total flip for Beck.

"keep your money in the bank"
"don't take your money out of the 401K"
"you won't be able to get a new credit card unless you have extraordinary credit" - of course the worthless banks that made horrible investments stil get to have unlimited debt and a credit rating of about -12.
"its too late to get out of debt"

porcupine
09-22-2008, 11:58 AM
time to email him and call him a socialist traitor. that boils my blood.

Because that will accomplish so much. :rolleyes:

angelatc
09-22-2008, 12:13 PM
Give him a chance. Help him along. He's the only one in the MSM who's close to getting it.


To me, he's like a bad boyfriend. He lets me down every time I think there's a glimmer of hope.

I hope I am wrong.

rockandrollsouls
09-22-2008, 12:54 PM
Because that will accomplish so much. :rolleyes:

Sorry, but I don't appreciate people with influence in the media misleading the American people. I will email and call them to tell them how I feel and what they are doing.

This isn't a matter of who said what when....if people don't take care of this and try to shoot down this plan this plan will have severe long term consequences. What he's preaching could affect MY children's children if anyone pays any head to it.

constituent
09-22-2008, 01:00 PM
He'll do it in a very eloquent and intelligent way.

+1

dirknb@hotmail.com
09-22-2008, 01:04 PM
Amazing. Today, Glenn Beck now says we must do this multi-trillion dollar bailout. That's a pretty big turnaround from last week. Who got to him? No speaking about the Fed today, only Congress.

Beck was gotten to a long, long time ago. That's why he is where he is. He will say whatever he is told to say.

"The CIA owns everyone of any significance in the major media." - William Colby - Former CIA Director

anaconda
09-22-2008, 01:39 PM
Ron Paul should refuse any more Beck interviews unless he pledges and demonstrates a successful track record of talking up the Revolution platform in between interviews. No more RP giving a nice interview only to be stabbed in the back a few days later.

pacelli
09-22-2008, 01:42 PM
Then he'll claim that Ron Paul supporters are threatening him (being terrorists). Don't fall for the trap.

Well said. He is part of the media and regardless of giving Paul airtime, he always will act out of his own self-interest. Don't fall for the trap is right!

rockandrollsouls
09-22-2008, 01:44 PM
Well said. He is part of the media and regardless of giving Paul airtime, he always will act out of his own self-interest. Don't fall for the trap is right!

Who said you email him as a Paul supporter? Email him as a f***ing American. Your livelihood depends on it. This has nothing to do with Ron. It has to do with our Republic.

Deborah K
09-22-2008, 01:47 PM
To me, he's like a bad boyfriend. He lets me down every time I think there's a glimmer of hope.

I hope I am wrong.

The fact that he's had Ron Paul and Peter Schiff on A LOT lately speaks to me. You folks can write him off if you wish. I hope you don't. I hope you'll give me the benefit of the doubt and help me get an interview Beck's show with Ed Griffin. I think this can be done. It will open the door for us.

I don't think chewing him out, cussing him out, or whatever is productive. As someone who has been a political activist for a while now, and has been interviewed on radio shows, and national calls, I can tell you, the people who are rude to me get nowhere with me - quite the opposite. But anyone, who shares a different point of view than mine, yet gets their point across without slinging insults, always has my attention. That's Ron Paul's style too. Sort of a 'malice towards none' kind of attitude.

Deborah K
09-22-2008, 01:49 PM
Ron Paul should refuse any more Beck interviews unless he pledges and demonstrates a successful track record of talking up the Revolution platform in between interviews. No more RP giving a nice interview only to be stabbed in the back a few days later.

Why would he do that??? Beck isn't a Republican - he's an independent conservative. And he hasn't stabbed RP in the back as of late. He has seen the error of his ways. And I, for one, am willing to give him another chance.

Ozwest
09-22-2008, 01:53 PM
Beck is, and always will be,

A certified...

Scrotum.

anaconda
09-22-2008, 06:18 PM
Why would he do that??? Beck isn't a Republican - he's an independent conservative. And he hasn't stabbed RP in the back as of late. He has seen the error of his ways. And I, for one, am willing to give him another chance.


Why does he have to start off his interview by bellowing from the top of his lungs "I don't agree with Ron Paul on everything...NOT BY A LONGSHOT!!!"

Would someone interview Barack Obama, Sarah Palin, or even Duncan Hunter that way? Just seems downright disrespectful.

But your point about being civil and getting your foot in the door is well taken.