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speech
09-20-2008, 04:26 AM
Newly released footage, which was buried to avoid confiscation, shows riot cops arresting and abusing a giant group of people for nothing.
Now that we've had a few weeks to settle, a look back at Labor Day in the Twin Cities. Labor Day was of course also Day One of the Republican National Convention. Video was released today of an apparent mass arrest of utterly peaceful concert goers at the SEIU Labor Day concert.

My personal favorite moment in the tape is an off-camera exchange. Police in riot gear have surrounded loungers in a waterfront park. They announce, "Ladies and Gentlemen, You're Under Arrest" and you hear one young woman say incredulously "Are you serious?"
http://waronyou.com/2008/09/incredible-documentary-footage-of-mass-arrest-in-st-paul/

mconder
09-20-2008, 08:43 AM
Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.

It sure looked like a peaceful assembly to me.

Bruno
09-20-2008, 08:51 AM
thanks for sharing this, speech. This is unbelievable, but expected at the same time.
Why didn't the MSM pick this up? Come on, this is supposed to be America. These people weren't even protesting .
How can these cops feel good about their jobs? This type of "follow orders" attitude is what helped get Nazism to rise to its full power. Weren't any of the cops like, "wtf? These people aren't doing anything?"

ladyjade3
09-20-2008, 08:56 AM
that is pretty incredible

zach
09-20-2008, 09:04 AM
That's sick! They weren't even doing anything to even instigate a "probable cause" arrest!

Good God.

cjhowe
09-20-2008, 11:30 AM
This should be a RICO case...
http://www.insurancejournal.com/news/national/2008/09/05/93407.htm
http://www.startribune.com/politics/national/conventions/27818659.html

The GOP paid for mercenary justice.

ShowMeLiberty
09-20-2008, 11:49 AM
*sigh*

We probably better get used to scenes like this. If Ron Paul, Peter Schiff, and so many others are right about what is coming for our economy, our currency, our nation - things like this (and worse) will be everyday events.

Uriel999
09-20-2008, 02:15 PM
How much longer until people start firing back? Those officers better start actually thinking about that question. I'm not saying it would be right or wrong, but shit like this only will be the catalyst for a modern day Concord/Lexington. Tear gassing those people was an act of aggression.

devil21
09-20-2008, 02:35 PM
Im not surprised by the actions of the police. The docileness of the people scares me the most. People were basically standing up and volunteering to be arrested even though they all knew they did nothing wrong. That is what makes the progression into a tyrannical police state so much easier for TPTB. At what point will The People fight back?

tmosley
09-20-2008, 02:54 PM
Wow. I want to have every one of those guys badges. That entire police force needs to be reorganized. That's probably the most blatant violation of rights I have ever seen on such a large scale right out in the open.

smileylovesfreedom
09-20-2008, 06:49 PM
http://www.ipetitions.com/petition/investigate_now/index.html

There is a petition circulating now against the mass arrests - feel free to sign it and pass it on.

Mach
09-20-2008, 07:33 PM
http://www.ipetitions.com/petition/investigate_now/index.html

There is a petition circulating now against the mass arrests - feel free to sign it and pass it on.

Fuck Petitions! Give me a good example of how Petitions have done Jack-Squat up 'till now, just because it makes you feel like you're doing something does not mean anything is actually getting done.

When you see a cop let them know that you are against what they stand for.... all cops, follow all orders, all of the time, period! They are not there to Protect and Serve us, that's for sure, that is a myth!

speech
09-20-2008, 09:01 PM
Fuck Petitions! Give me a good example of how Petitions have done Jack-Squat up 'till now, just because it makes you feel like you're doing something does not mean anything is actually getting done.

When you see a cop let them know that you are against what they stand for.... all cops, follow all orders, all of the time, period! They are not there to Protect and Serve us, that's for sure, that is a myth!

Its a record of something unlike rants in forums. Not knocking us but when there's support for something people follow the bandwagon. Im ready for a all out boycott.

Petitions work better in local govt, I can think of a few local examples but people stopping the opening of wal marts is a example.

GunnyFreedom
09-20-2008, 10:39 PM
beyond sick

GunnyFreedom
09-20-2008, 11:02 PM
honestly, sometimes I see some of these things, and I have to thank God I wasn't there, because I know, intellectually, that I can do so much more for the Liberty movement from outside of prison. Some things I have seen, like when that cop shot that Air Force guy 4 times for standing up when ordered to do so...I'd be on death row had I been there. Or dead.

The people in general are not ready to stand, even if you and I are, and so we have to keep a long term perspective sometimes. If I fight back and go to prison, will I be a martyr for Liberty, or will I be the lone nut behind bars who can help nobody and do nothing?

It's sick and it's sad, but it's something we have to consider.

No, I would not have gone peacefully into that great night at the event in the video, and I'd probably be in prison today for a long long time had I been there. Therefore I thank God that I wasn't there, because Ron needs me. Here, outside, walking the streets for him.

Eleutheros
09-21-2008, 01:52 PM
When you see a cop let them know that you are against what they stand for.... all cops, follow all orders, all of the time, period! They are not there to Protect and Serve us, that's for sure, that is a myth!

(at bolded). Actually, your assertion is wrong, dead wrong. They ARE there to Protect and Serve us. They absolutely are!!

They are there to protect their identities while they serve us an @$$ whooping.

smileylovesfreedom
09-21-2008, 03:28 PM
Fuck Petitions! Give me a good example of how Petitions have done Jack-Squat up 'till now, just because it makes you feel like you're doing something does not mean anything is actually getting done.

When you see a cop let them know that you are against what they stand for.... all cops, follow all orders, all of the time, period! They are not there to Protect and Serve us, that's for sure, that is a myth!

When they sent a petition around for the arrested journalists during the RNC, they got 50,000 signatures in 2 days and some press coverage out of that event. At the very least, successful petitions seem to be an attention getter on a press release or getting some media attention about an issue. They may also serve as another reason to visit the city attorneys or local politicans to deliever the petition along with any other demands. The journalists arrested during the RNC are now having their charges dropped against them likely due in part to all the pressure and press on their arrests.

Finally, petitions are never ment to be the only thing one can do - but they are a tool that usually requires very little investment of time for the signer. It takes 1 minute to sign and 5 minutes to pass on - if you so desire - and you still will have enough time to do whatever other forms of activism you participate in.

hvac ak47
09-21-2008, 06:31 PM
Im sure somethin happened not shown in the video that caused these people to be arrrested.

crackyflipside
09-22-2008, 09:06 AM
Im sure somethin happened not shown in the video that caused these people to be arrrested.

All those people caused it and the police had the right to arrest them?

F--- anyone who thinks this action is justifiable, it against the constitution, what are these people being arrested for? Exercising their first amendment?????

humanic
09-22-2008, 09:58 AM
Interesting comment someone made on the video:


In a prior career I used to do intelligence work..a glorified way of saying "reading alot" and then writing about stuff. Here's an example of what Open Source Intelligence (OSINT) can do. Start reading publications like Army Times to get an understanding of the mentality and language, and begin to guess at their intentions. Here's a current example from Army Times:


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Army To Deploy October 1st For Civil Security Emergency Management Response

Gina Cavallaro of ArmyTimes reports that Brigade Homeland Tours Start Oct. 1, 2008 as the 3rd Infantry's 1st BCT trains for a new dwell-time mission.

Helping 'people at home' may become a permanent part of the active Army

The 3rd Infantry Division's 1st Brigade Combat Team has spent 35 of the last 60 months in Iraq patrolling in full battle rattle, helping restore essential services and escorting supply convoys.

Now they're training for the same mission — with a twist — at home.

Beginning Oct. 1 for 12 months, the 1st BCT will be under the day-to-day control of U.S. Army North, NORTHCOM, the Army service component of Northern Command, as an on-call federal response force for natural or manmade emergencies and disasters, including terrorist attacks.
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Let's try decoding this...

"Civil Security Emergency Management Response" --should be obvious, and this is NOT about hurricanes since the deployment date is in October.

"infantry BCT" -infantry brigade combat team

"dwell-time" --has two meanings but in this case it means "taking a vacation from invading foreign countries who are foolish enough to be defenseless and have oil we can steal".

"Helping 'people at home'" - could mean anything

"may become a permanent part of the active Army" -- hey guys, we finally got rid of Posse Comitatus.

"NORTHCOM" -- Northern Command; that means you and me are the target of interest

"terrorist attacks" - remember that although people do end up dying in terrorist attacks, the target is government/political/infrastructure. In other words, "terrorist attacks" are counter-attacks..a RESPONSE. Terrorists are people who defend themselves.


Now, what this article DOESN'T mention is that the "October" timeframe is very interesting due to "Operation Vigilant Shield" which is a martial law exercise that DoD is running in October. It's good to be aware this stuff is going on.

dboy