Commission on Presidential Debates shuts off phone.

[abc123]

Supporters for open debates have been bombarding them with phone calls all day. Now, they've shut their phone off as of a few hours ago and are refusing to take more calls.

Please call them and leave them a message. You can remain anonymous, just leave them a message please.

202-872-1020

Urge them to:
- Open up debates to Chuck Baldwin, Bob Barr, Ralph Nader, and Cynthia McKinney (or any combination thereof).
- Make their secret contract between the McCain and Obama campaigns public.
- Develop a more objective and reasonable criteria for inclusion in the Presidential debates.

Please keep putting the pressure on these guys. Let's shut em down all next week with phone calls if we have to.

[Kludge]

Ahhh, I love these projects.


12 spammers of the world, UNITE!

[ladyjade3]

Back to our old tricks again, huh? It feels comfy, like coming home....

[Kotin]

Back to our old tricks again, huh? It feels comfy, like coming home....

too true.. hahaha!


spammers assemble!!!

[abc123]

Keep them calls going!

[FrankRep]

Awesome mobilization! Great work.

[Spider-Man]

Just did my part.

Now it's time to do yours!

Yeah, you.

It's really easy right now, because all you have to do is leave a message.

Here's an example of something you can read:

Hi, my name is (your name).
I'm a voter who lives in (your location).
I'd really like to see (candidates) in the presidential debates.
Also, I'd like to ask you to please publicize the debate contract between John McCain and Barack Obama.
Thank you.

[ShowMeLiberty]

Back to our old tricks again, huh? It feels comfy, like coming home....

Yeah, this is stuff we know how to do very well. :cool:

[RickyJ]

No sense wasting time with them. They don't care what we think, they have a show to put on.

[sratiug]

done.

[Eric21ND]

you know i'm game!

[FrankRep]

No sense wasting time with them. They don't care what we think, they have a show to put on.

We must keep pressure on them. This is a battle.

[Chester Copperpot]

guys this is cool.. its like everybody is getting their second wind... i havent called yet.,. but come monday am.. muhahahah

[jlaker]

done.

[Arklatex]

http://www.1776web.com/Fife%20&%20Drum.jpg

[Bman]

Done. Thanks for the number.

[DirtMcGirt]

+1

[nayjevin]

http://www.filmreference.com/images/sjff_03_img1104.jpg

:) !

[jake]

hey , ho, let's go!

this is exactly what Ron Paul would encourage!

[Peace&Freedom]

We must keep pressure on them. This is a battle.

If they've turned off their phones, move the battle to Obama and McCain's phones. Demand the Republican and Democratic candidates DIRECTLY to include the other candidates who are on most ballots. Enough with the middleman!

[CasualApathy]

I just called. It was an international call, so i hope it didn't cost too much. No price is too high for liberty though.

[Adam Kokesh]

I just called and got, "Sorry, you cannot leave a message now because this mailbox is full."

At least we left a nice surprise for whomever has to come in and check the messages Monday morning!

[jabrownie]

Ditto on the "mailbox full" message, however, if you wait a second after that and hit *8 you can go to a directory to look up the extensions of people working there. Now just have to figure out who the head honcho is then their box can get filled up too... :-P

[Chester Copperpot]

if they've turned off their phones, move the battle to obama and mccain's phones. Demand the republican and democratic candidates directly to include the other candidates who are on most ballots. Enough with the middleman!

good idea

[Chester Copperpot]

Ditto on the "mailbox full" message, however, if you wait a second after that and hit *8 you can go to a directory to look up the extensions of people working there. Now just have to figure out who the head honcho is then their box can get filled up too... :-P

AH, Ancient Chinese secret...

is this on the presidential debate committee mailbox or the obama/mccain campaigns?

[Chester Copperpot]

damn , this is so fun,, i just have to call now.. i cant wait till monday

[jabrownie]

AH, Ancient Chinese secret...

is this on the presidential debate committee mailbox or the obama/mccain campaigns?

The presidential debate committee mailbox.

[angelatc]

How does the menu work? Are we just picking a random name and leaving a message, or is there a particulat mailbox we're targeting?

[mconder]

They have more than one phone number going in there. As one gets shut off we need to find another for some high ranking official.

[Bruno]

Let's keep this bumped and fill up all the voicemail boxes!


How does the menu work? Are we just picking a random name and leaving a message, or is there a particulat mailbox we're targeting?

When it says "Mailbox full" :

1) Press *8.
2) Press *2
3) Press 2 (allowing two digits to be entered to find someone in the directory)
4) Press any two digits. The auto-router will send it to someone's voicemail.

Viola! Leave a message.

[Jeremy]

I just called and got, "Sorry, you cannot leave a message now because this mailbox is full."

At least we left a nice surprise for whomever has to come in and check the messages Monday morning!

You know what we should do? Well they're going to have clear out those calls... so every time they clear it out let's fill it up again right away! :D

[Bruno]

You know what we should do? Well they're going to have clear out those calls... so every time they clear it out let's fill it up again right away! :D


You can get through. See post 30

[jabrownie]

Alright everybody, I've gone through the entire directory and there are only three people that can be brought up, here's how you reach them:

Call 202-872-1020
It will say that you can't leave a message because the mailbox is full.
Press *8
Press *2

Press 23# to reach Adam Grog
Press 24# to reach Casey
Press 62# to reach an unidentified female who will "pass your concerns along"

Out of all the possible combinations you can put in at the directory lookup stage those are the only ones that work...I tried em all. :-)

So, let's leave these three nice people some friendly messages.

[teshuah]

fill all of them up... everyone working there needs to know. If only one person hears it and doesn't tell anyone in the office what good does that do? Maybe the right person will become annoyed enough that they'll break... and not keep their mouth shut anymore and go to the media to quiet us...

okay, I'm a wishful thinker

[Bruno]

Alright everybody, I've gone through the entire directory and there are only three people that can be brought up, here's how you reach them:

Call 202-872-1020
It will say that you can't leave a message because the mailbox is full.
Press *8
Press *2

Press 23# to reach Adam Grog
Press 24# to reach Casey
Press 62# to reach an unidentified female who will "pass your concerns along"

Out of all the possible combinations you can put in at the directory lookup stage those are the only ones that work...I tried em all. :-)

So, let's leave these three nice people some friendly messages.


Thanks for the update. I guess I got lucky on the first try, I dialed 24.

[mport1]

bump

[skiingff]

The point is to make these people so irritated by continuously flooding their mailboxes with pro open-debate messages that they complain about it in some way and the media picks up on it. For example, I've left them 2 messages, one yesterday and one today. If I do this everyday until they get so annoyed they do something ridiculous, I'll win because the media will pick up on it and our message will get out there. It will cause controversy. That's what we need over this issue - controversy. Not apathy and an oblivious citizenry. Something bold must be done to make this an issue. Right now it's a non-issue to the average Joe and we need controversy to bring it to the limelight.

For me, I'm glad we're all getting together to take positive political ACTION. This is great!

Remember, the first step towards liberty is getting people to listen to our message. With 40+ million people watching, the debates would do it.

[jake]

keep it up folks!

[Jaykzo]

I left a message for Casey

[malibuu]

Hit them where it hurts - question their non-profit status if they play partisan politics.

As a nonprofit organization, they can NOT be a partisan sponsor of any candidate over another without risking that non-profit corporation tax exemption status. They seem to get around this by using polls to exclude minor candidates - but then they need to be showing some transparency of what they are doing.

http://www.debates.org/pages/about.html

"The Commission on Presidential Debates (CPD) was established in 1987 to ensure that debates, as a permanent part of every general election, provide the best possible information to viewers and listeners. Its primary purpose is to sponsor and produce debates for the United States presidential and vice presidential candidates and to undertake research and educational activities relating to the debates. The organization, which is a nonprofit, nonpartisan, 501(c)(3) corporation, sponsored all the presidential debates in 1988, 1992, 1996, 2000, and 2004."


What is odd is I can't find an email address for this nonprofit . . .

At this first cursory look, they do NOT seem to be fulfilling all their requirements of their tax exemption privileged status - which should be questioned.

[Eric21ND]

Another thing you guys need to do after trolling their voicemail is sign up for open debates. The Citizens Debate Commission that they purpose is rather interesting.

We really need to start handing out literature about the Open Debates movement and build for a future takeover just like the Republican party takeover thats looming...fight the system on two fronts. :)

[malibuu]

Hit them where it hurts - question their non-profit status if they play partisan politics.

As a nonprofit organization, they can NOT be a partisan sponsor of any candidate over another without risking that non-profit corporation tax exemption status. They seem to get around this by using polls to exclude minor candidates - but then they need to be showing some transparency of what they are doing.

http://www.debates.org/pages/about.html

. . .

What is odd is I can't find an email address for this nonprofit . . .



And if anybuddy can find that email address - or other contact in addition to the telephone number - please post it.

[JS4Pat]

I think we have filled all the mailboxes - what next?

[Knightskye]

Supporters for open debates have been bombarding them with phone calls all day. Now, they've shut their phone off as of a few hours ago and are refusing to take more calls.

Please call them and leave them a message. You can remain anonymous, just leave them a message please.

202-872-1020

Urge them to:
- Open up debates to Chuck Baldwin, Bob Barr, Ralph Nader, and Cynthia McKinney (or any combination thereof).
- Make their secret contract between the McCain and Obama campaigns public.
- Develop a more objective and reasonable criteria for inclusion in the Presidential debates.

Please keep putting the pressure on these guys. Let's shut em down all next week with phone calls if we have to.

Awesome. :D

We should try to get someone there in person.

1200 New Hampshire Avenue Northwest
Washington, DC 20036

For some reason, I couldn't find their address on the website (http://www.debates.org). I did a reverse lookup of the phone number.

Do we have anyone on the boards who lives in Washington, D.C. and has some free time on his hands?

[Flash]

So uhh did anyone get a call back yet?

[satchelmcqueen]

I just called and got, "Sorry, you cannot leave a message now because this mailbox is full."

At least we left a nice surprise for whomever has to come in and check the messages Monday morning!

same here.

[V4Vendetta]

lol, fax #?

[Knightskye]

lol, fax #?

They didn't have their address on the website - or the phone number.

But I didn't find the fax in the Super Pages listing.

Something funny I found - the CPD is about a mile from a cemetery. :D

[Adam Kokesh]

I'm in DC. What do you propose? I was thinking about doing something to protest the 700b in inflation tax coming instead. Maybe a sit in at the treasury. Any ideas?

[Knightskye]

I'm in DC. What do you propose? I was thinking about doing something to protest the 700b in inflation tax coming instead. Maybe a sit in at the treasury. Any ideas?

I was just thinking an interview with someone from the Commission. Maybe ask them some good, hard questions.

[Bman]

I was just thinking an interview with someone from the Commission. Maybe ask them some good, hard questions.

Yeah. Maybe like what part of the constitution validates this action.

[jdmyprez_deo_vindice]

I am not in D.C. but I am fairly close. I am all for organizing some type of action be it a protest or attempts to meet with these people face to face. Whatever it takes, I am in!

[JS4Pat]

Need to join Nader's efforts in this as well. There are A LOT of groups who want to see the debates opened up. I think this year more than any in the past - it is possible to make some real noise on this issue...

Open Debates is teaming up with nine other pro-democracy organizations to issue the following press release today demanding the release of the debate contract:

http://www.opendebates.org/makecontractpublic.html

[noobles]

looks like the debates.org mail servers are hosted by postini.com (see dig results below - psmtp.com maps to servers hosted by postini.com)

also, jb@debates.org seems to be associated with Janet H. Brown (Executive Director of CPD). don't know if it's accurate, or if the email account is active, or even looked at for that matter - so take it for what it's worth.

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[BarryDonegan]

keep the calls comin.

when they shut off the phone thats a sign that we're winning.

[FrankRep]

Flood them with snail mail as well.

Hit them from all angles.

[noobles]

The following are extension numbers for 202.872.1020 whose voice mail boxes still have some empty space waiting to be filled...

11 - Michael Brewer
12 - General Comments?
13 - Casey ?(missed the last name)

Those are the 3 I tried. I'm sure there's more - just guess more numbers.

listen to all of the instructions - they'll tell you how to get to the spot where you can enter extensions.

[teshuah]

Frank Fahrenkopf is a co-chair of the CPD. He's chair of the American Gaming Association. I'm not at a phone right now, but there's the number: Phone: 202-552-2675
Fax: 202-552-2676 does he have a voicemail there?

Here's an Email for the other co-chair, Paul Kirk pkirk@sandw.com through the sullivan and Worcestper website

[notsure]

Frank Fahrenkopf is a co-chair of the CPD. He's chair of the American Gaming Association. I'm not at a phone right now, but there's the number: Phone: 202-552-2675
Fax: 202-552-2676 does he have a voicemail there?

Here's an Email for the other co-chair, Paul Kirk pkirk@sandw.com through the sullivan and Worcester website

Paul Kirk has since retired from Sullivan & Worcestper.
Here's a contact for John Danforthe, board of directors member, through Bryan Cave LLP website (http://www.bryancave.com/jcdanforth/).
John C. Danforth
Partner
Bryan Cave LLP

St. Louis
1 314 259 2980
Fax
1 314 552 8980

Kansas City
1 816 374 3219
jcdanforth@bryancave.com

[HOLLYWOOD]

I am not in D.C. but I am fairly close. I am all for organizing some type of action be it a protest or attempts to meet with these people face to face. Whatever it takes, I am in!

"Taxation Without Representation Is Tyranny!"


http://www.bartleby.com/59/11/taxationwith.html (http://www.bartleby.com/59/11/taxationwith.html)

This would make a great PR anti-BAILOUT Campaign with a 8ft x 50ft Banner with those WORDS, strung out on the fence of the WHITE HOUSE, the FEDERAL RESERVE, The Capital building, IRS building, etc in DC.

Local/Metro DC RPF grassroots? ...a great project in the timing of this Out Of Control US government and illegal FED & FINANCING.

Of course, ensure major distribution to the MEDIA domestic & around the WORLD and PICS emailed to EVERYONE!

[abc123]

I just left 3 more messages.

Bump!

[teshuah]

Paul Kirk has since retired from Sullivan & Worcestper.
Here's a contact for John Danforthe, board of directors member, through Bryan Cave LLP website (http://www.bryancave.com/jcdanforth/).
John C. Danforth
Partner
Bryan Cave LLP

St. Louis
1 314 259 2980
Fax
1 314 552 8980

Kansas City
1 816 374 3219
jcdanforth@bryancave.com

he is listed as a retired partner with that email address listed there along with others

[boethius27]

Ah, this is the kinda stuff I really like!!

They can't ignore all of us. (all 5 spammers that is)

[mkeller]

I just called. The first eleven extensions were full, so I hit them at 12#. :D

[Matt Collins]

Hell yeah!

[evilfunnystuff]

ding

[Kludge]

ding

Congrats. What level?

[V4Vendetta]

just left them a nice message!

[itshappening]

Open up the debates!!!!!!!!

[bojo68]

Maybe I should bring up that a few years Budweiser gave something like 300k$ to the presidential debate commission. I immediately quit buying bud.

[V4Vendetta]

Maybe I should bring up that a few years Budweiser gave something like 300k$ to the presidential debate commission. I immediately quit buying bud.

well i stopped buying bud as soon as they sold out to Belgium. Coors light for me baby!

[Alawn]

well i stopped buying bud as soon as they sold out to Belgium. Coors light for me baby!

Coors (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Molson_Coors_Brewing_Company) isn't American either and neither is Miller (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SABMiller).

[V4Vendetta]

Well shit, I guess I'll stick with Lone Star, thats atleast made in my state, TEXAS. But for those nights when i want a ice cold picture, i wonder what i should get, cause only a few beers are on tap. :(