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max
09-18-2008, 03:50 PM
We all know that the North American Union is a fable concocted by conspiracy theorists associated with Ron Paul. Someone needs to tell former Mexican president Vincente Fox. He still thinks it exists....lol...what a paranoid fool

Watch this Sept 12 news clip...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r-_SMHNrlkQ&eurl=http://www.prisonplanet.com/vicente-fox-tells-american-workers-to-get-over-it.html

Fox McCloud
09-18-2008, 03:56 PM
We all know that the North American Union is a fable concocted by conspiracy theorists associated with Ron Paul. Someone needs to tell former Mexican president Vincente Fox. He still thinks it exists....lol...what a paranoid fool

Watch this Sept 12 news clip...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r-_SMHNrlkQ&eurl=http://www.prisonplanet.com/vicente-fox-tells-american-workers-to-get-over-it.html

Not sure if you're being sarcastic here or not...but Ron Paul has stated multiple times that he believes there's a North American Union in the making.

Defining Obscene
09-18-2008, 03:56 PM
Whats a "NAU"? Never heard of it, sounds pretty outlandish. Whos Vincente Fox? I thought their president was Felipe Calderone? Sir, this entire argument is invalid, and Wheel of Fortune is on. Good day.

I said, good day.

Truth Warrior
09-18-2008, 03:58 PM
Whats a "NAU"? Never heard of it, sounds pretty outlandish. Whos Vincente Fox? I thought their president was Felipe Calderone? Sir, this entire argument is invalid, and Wheel of Fortune is on. Good day.

I said, good day. Look it up. :p Google is you friend. www.google.com (http://www.google.com) :rolleyes:

Defining Obscene
09-18-2008, 04:01 PM
Look it up. :p Google is you friend. www.google.com (http://www.google.com) :rolleyes:

Why would I look it up when I know its not true? North American Union, HAH, you have a better shot of there being a european union. As Joe Biden says, "as they say, get a life."

gls
09-18-2008, 04:01 PM
I said, good day.

http://a.media.abcfamily.go.com/abcfamily/Shows/That70sShow/Editions/2008-5-13/CastImages/cast_large_fez3.jpg

Deborah K
09-18-2008, 04:03 PM
Here is HCR40 - a resolution to stop the NAU : http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/z?c110:H.CON.RES.40: Please people, go visit your congressman/woman the next time they are in your home state - they all have at least one home state office. Copy this off, it's the NAU Timeline: http://www.revolutionmarch.com/images/NAU_timeline_Current.pdf hole- punch it and put it in a folder and give it to them with a copy of this in the back: http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/bdquery/z?d110:HC00040:@@@P This has all the congressmen and women who have already cosponsored.

Please do this?

Truth Warrior
09-18-2008, 04:04 PM
Why would I look it up when I know its not true? North American Union, HAH, you have a better shot of there being a european union. As Joe Biden says, "as they say, get a life." Get a clue, Coward.

Deborah K
09-18-2008, 04:07 PM
Get a clue, Coward.

He's baiting you, don't fall for it.

Defining Obscene
09-18-2008, 04:07 PM
Get a clue, Coward.

I have a clue, and its that you need to stop spreading lies. There are no unions, we have sovereignty despite open borders and a superhighway, and this is the land that I love. Sit down, and shut up!

Truth Warrior
09-18-2008, 04:10 PM
I have a clue, and its that you need to stop spreading lies. There are no unions, we have sovereignty despite open borders and a superhighway, and this is the land that I love. Sit down, and shut up! Kiss your ass, as you pull your head out, Goober.

Truth Warrior
09-18-2008, 04:11 PM
He's baiting you, don't fall for it. Thanks for your interest and concern. :)

Defining Obscene
09-18-2008, 04:13 PM
BE A PATRIOT. THIS IS YOUR FRIEND

http://www.spock.com/i/xd1lsfc/Henry-Paulson.jpg



THIS IS YOUR ENEMY

http://www.britannica.com/blogs/wp-content/uploads/2007/10/bin-laden.jpg





WE HAVE NO ROOM FOR TIN FOIL HAT CONSPIRACIES, NORTH AMERICAN UNION WONT HAPPEN BECAUSE THIS IS AMERICA. ITS THAT SIMPLE.

FrankRep
09-18-2008, 04:14 PM
Congresswoman Marci Kaptur on the North American Union

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DAs7XZVgKhI


Support HCR 40: Block the North American Union

H. Con. Res. 40: Expressing the sense of Congress that the United States should not engage in the construction of a North American Free Trade Agreement (NAFTA) Superhighway System or enter into a North American Union with Mexico and Canada

Introduced Jan 22, 2007
Sponsor Rep. Virgil Goode [R-VA]
Status Introduced

Email Congress:
http://capwiz.com/jbs/issues/alert/?alertid=11495616

Truth Warrior
09-18-2008, 04:16 PM
BE A PATRIOT. THIS IS YOUR FRIEND

http://www.spock.com/i/xd1lsfc/Henry-Paulson.jpg



THIS IS YOUR ENEMY

http://www.britannica.com/blogs/wp-content/uploads/2007/10/bin-laden.jpg





WE HAVE NO ROOM FOR TIN FOIL HAT CONSPIRACIES, NORTH AMERICAN UNION WONT HAPPEN BECAUSE THIS IS AMERICA. ITS THAT SIMPLE.

Hey, I guessed right, you ARE a Goober. :p

Defining Obscene
09-18-2008, 04:17 PM
http://www.spock.com/i/xd1lsfc/Henry-Paulson.jpg


HENRY, BAIL ME OUT, I NEED TO BUY A VOWEL!

dannno
09-18-2008, 04:20 PM
Wow. Lots of sarcasm in this thread.


As far as I can tell, everybody here including the OP and Ron Paul all know about the NAU.. there are still some clueless folks over at factcheck.org, though..

BCR_9er
09-18-2008, 04:30 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Y30k3nkk54

Dr.3D
09-18-2008, 04:36 PM
I have always wondered why this goof wears an over sized sailor hat and lives in a desert. :D

http://www.britannica.com/blogs/wp-content/uploads/2007/10/bin-laden.jpg

Must be a sailor wanna be.

heavenlyboy34
09-18-2008, 04:38 PM
Wow. Lots of sarcasm in this thread.


As far as I can tell, everybody here including the OP and Ron Paul all know about the NAU.. there are still some clueless folks over at factcheck.org, though..

As much as I love factcheck.org, that is a failing of theirs, I must admit. :( Hopefully they'll straighten that out.

Deborah K
09-18-2008, 05:17 PM
Thanks for your interest and concern. :)

You are welcome! ;)

CurtisLow
09-18-2008, 05:34 PM
Look it up. :p Google is you friend. www.google.com (http://www.google.com) :rolleyes:

1. Google's immortal cookie:
Google was the first search engine to use a cookie that expires in 2038. This was at a time when federal websites were prohibited from using persistent cookies altogether. Now it's years later, and immortal cookies are commonplace among search engines; Google set the standard because no one bothered to challenge them. This cookie places a unique ID number on your hard disk. Anytime you land on a Google page, you get a Google cookie if you don't already have one. If you have one, they read and record your unique ID number.

2. Google records everything they can:
For all searches they record the cookie ID, your Internet IP address, the time and date, your search terms, and your browser configuration. Increasingly, Google is customizing results based on your IP number. This is referred to in the industry as "IP delivery based on geolocation."

3. Google retains all data indefinitely:
Google has no data retention policies. There is evidence that they are able to easily access all the user information they collect and save.

4. Google won't say why they need this data:
Inquiries to Google about their privacy policies are ignored. When the New York Times (2002-11-28) asked Sergey Brin about whether Google ever gets subpoenaed for this information, he had no comment.

5. Google hires spooks:
Matt Cutts, a key Google engineer, used to work for the National Security Agency. Google wants to hire more people with security clearances, so that they can peddle their corporate assets to the spooks in Washington.

6. Google's toolbar is spyware:
With the advanced features enabled, Google's free toolbar for Explorer phones home with every page you surf, and yes, it reads your cookie too. Their privacy policy confesses this, but that's only because Alexa lost a class-action lawsuit when their toolbar did the same thing, and their privacy policy failed to explain this. Worse yet, Google's toolbar updates to new versions quietly, and without asking. This means that if you have the toolbar installed, Google essentially has complete access to your hard disk every time you connect to Google (which is many times a day). Most software vendors, and even Microsoft, ask if you'd like an updated version. But not Google. Any software that updates automatically presents a massive security risk.

7. Google's cache copy is illegal:
Judging from Ninth Circuit precedent on the application of U.S. copyright laws to the Internet, Google's cache copy appears to be illegal. The only way a webmaster can avoid having his site cached on Google is to put a "noarchive" meta in the header of every page on his site. Surfers like the cache, but webmasters don't. Many webmasters have deleted questionable material from their sites, only to discover later that the problem pages live merrily on in Google's cache. The cache copy should be "opt-in" for webmasters, not "opt-out."

8. Google is not your friend:
By now Google enjoys a 75 percent monopoly for all external referrals to most websites. Webmasters cannot avoid seeking Google's approval these days, assuming they want to increase traffic to their site. If they try to take advantage of some of the known weaknesses in Google's semi-secret algorithms, they may find themselves penalized by Google, and their traffic disappears. There are no detailed, published standards issued by Google, and there is no appeal process for penalized sites. Google is completely unaccountable. Most of the time Google doesn't even answer email from webmasters.

9. Google is a privacy time bomb:
With 200 million searches per day, most from outside the U.S., Google amounts to a privacy disaster waiting to happen. Those newly-commissioned data-mining bureaucrats in Washington can only dream about the sort of slick efficiency that Google has already achieved.

Truth Warrior
09-18-2008, 05:49 PM
1. Google's immortal cookie:
Google was the first search engine to use a cookie that expires in 2038. This was at a time when federal websites were prohibited from using persistent cookies altogether. Now it's years later, and immortal cookies are commonplace among search engines; Google set the standard because no one bothered to challenge them. This cookie places a unique ID number on your hard disk. Anytime you land on a Google page, you get a Google cookie if you don't already have one. If you have one, they read and record your unique ID number.

2. Google records everything they can:
For all searches they record the cookie ID, your Internet IP address, the time and date, your search terms, and your browser configuration. Increasingly, Google is customizing results based on your IP number. This is referred to in the industry as "IP delivery based on geolocation."

3. Google retains all data indefinitely:
Google has no data retention policies. There is evidence that they are able to easily access all the user information they collect and save.

4. Google won't say why they need this data:
Inquiries to Google about their privacy policies are ignored. When the New York Times (2002-11-28) asked Sergey Brin about whether Google ever gets subpoenaed for this information, he had no comment.

5. Google hires spooks:
Matt Cutts, a key Google engineer, used to work for the National Security Agency. Google wants to hire more people with security clearances, so that they can peddle their corporate assets to the spooks in Washington.

6. Google's toolbar is spyware:
With the advanced features enabled, Google's free toolbar for Explorer phones home with every page you surf, and yes, it reads your cookie too. Their privacy policy confesses this, but that's only because Alexa lost a class-action lawsuit when their toolbar did the same thing, and their privacy policy failed to explain this. Worse yet, Google's toolbar updates to new versions quietly, and without asking. This means that if you have the toolbar installed, Google essentially has complete access to your hard disk every time you connect to Google (which is many times a day). Most software vendors, and even Microsoft, ask if you'd like an updated version. But not Google. Any software that updates automatically presents a massive security risk.

7. Google's cache copy is illegal:
Judging from Ninth Circuit precedent on the application of U.S. copyright laws to the Internet, Google's cache copy appears to be illegal. The only way a webmaster can avoid having his site cached on Google is to put a "noarchive" meta in the header of every page on his site. Surfers like the cache, but webmasters don't. Many webmasters have deleted questionable material from their sites, only to discover later that the problem pages live merrily on in Google's cache. The cache copy should be "opt-in" for webmasters, not "opt-out."

8. Google is not your friend:
By now Google enjoys a 75 percent monopoly for all external referrals to most websites. Webmasters cannot avoid seeking Google's approval these days, assuming they want to increase traffic to their site. If they try to take advantage of some of the known weaknesses in Google's semi-secret algorithms, they may find themselves penalized by Google, and their traffic disappears. There are no detailed, published standards issued by Google, and there is no appeal process for penalized sites. Google is completely unaccountable. Most of the time Google doesn't even answer email from webmasters.

9. Google is a privacy time bomb:
With 200 million searches per day, most from outside the U.S., Google amounts to a privacy disaster waiting to happen. Those newly-commissioned data-mining bureaucrats in Washington can only dream about the sort of slick efficiency that Google has already achieved.

Thanks! I was just being facetious. It was merely a joke, catch line. :)

CurtisLow
09-18-2008, 05:55 PM
I know, lol but for the people with no clue..

Deborah K
09-18-2008, 06:01 PM
1. Google's immortal cookie:
Google was the first search engine to use a cookie that expires in 2038. This was at a time when federal websites were prohibited from using persistent cookies altogether. Now it's years later, and immortal cookies are commonplace among search engines; Google set the standard because no one bothered to challenge them. This cookie places a unique ID number on your hard disk. Anytime you land on a Google page, you get a Google cookie if you don't already have one. If you have one, they read and record your unique ID number.

2. Google records everything they can:
For all searches they record the cookie ID, your Internet IP address, the time and date, your search terms, and your browser configuration. Increasingly, Google is customizing results based on your IP number. This is referred to in the industry as "IP delivery based on geolocation."

3. Google retains all data indefinitely:
Google has no data retention policies. There is evidence that they are able to easily access all the user information they collect and save.

4. Google won't say why they need this data:
Inquiries to Google about their privacy policies are ignored. When the New York Times (2002-11-28) asked Sergey Brin about whether Google ever gets subpoenaed for this information, he had no comment.

5. Google hires spooks:
Matt Cutts, a key Google engineer, used to work for the National Security Agency. Google wants to hire more people with security clearances, so that they can peddle their corporate assets to the spooks in Washington.

6. Google's toolbar is spyware:
With the advanced features enabled, Google's free toolbar for Explorer phones home with every page you surf, and yes, it reads your cookie too. Their privacy policy confesses this, but that's only because Alexa lost a class-action lawsuit when their toolbar did the same thing, and their privacy policy failed to explain this. Worse yet, Google's toolbar updates to new versions quietly, and without asking. This means that if you have the toolbar installed, Google essentially has complete access to your hard disk every time you connect to Google (which is many times a day). Most software vendors, and even Microsoft, ask if you'd like an updated version. But not Google. Any software that updates automatically presents a massive security risk.

7. Google's cache copy is illegal:
Judging from Ninth Circuit precedent on the application of U.S. copyright laws to the Internet, Google's cache copy appears to be illegal. The only way a webmaster can avoid having his site cached on Google is to put a "noarchive" meta in the header of every page on his site. Surfers like the cache, but webmasters don't. Many webmasters have deleted questionable material from their sites, only to discover later that the problem pages live merrily on in Google's cache. The cache copy should be "opt-in" for webmasters, not "opt-out."

8. Google is not your friend:
By now Google enjoys a 75 percent monopoly for all external referrals to most websites. Webmasters cannot avoid seeking Google's approval these days, assuming they want to increase traffic to their site. If they try to take advantage of some of the known weaknesses in Google's semi-secret algorithms, they may find themselves penalized by Google, and their traffic disappears. There are no detailed, published standards issued by Google, and there is no appeal process for penalized sites. Google is completely unaccountable. Most of the time Google doesn't even answer email from webmasters.

9. Google is a privacy time bomb:
With 200 million searches per day, most from outside the U.S., Google amounts to a privacy disaster waiting to happen. Those newly-commissioned data-mining bureaucrats in Washington can only dream about the sort of slick efficiency that Google has already achieved.

Does Ron Paul know this? Here he is doing an interview with executive Elliot Schrage of Google http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yCM_wQy4YVg

Andrew Ryan
09-18-2008, 06:06 PM
But...What about Google Ron Paul? :(

devil21
09-18-2008, 06:28 PM
Not real? There's an ad for the REAL ID/NAU initiative on the last page of Newsweek, for cryin out loud.

Josh_LA
09-18-2008, 07:13 PM
Not sure if you're being sarcastic here or not...but Ron Paul has stated multiple times that he believes there's a North American Union in the making.

Yeah, just because it's a belief it's in the making doesn't mean it exists. That's like saying we believe Iran is making nucular weapons, so they are.

Josh_LA
09-18-2008, 07:14 PM
Does Ron Paul know this? Here he is doing an interview with executive Elliot Schrage of Google http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yCM_wQy4YVg

The only people who bitch about losing privacy are those who think they still have it.

You have to assume you have no privacy and trust nobody, that way you'll only be surprised of how little people know about you, not how much.

D.H.
09-18-2008, 08:01 PM
I wasn't aware of this either. I am new here but not to Ron Paul. I am aware of him talking about a NAFTA Highway and a possible North American Union but I rarely bring it up to people as I can't prove it.

We were talking about the election at work today and someone asked "Why do both of these candidates support drivers licenses for illegal's in this country?"

I felt like saying...."They are going to need people to drive on that highway they are planning that no one talks about...."

Thanks for the posting the House Resolution. It wouldn't make sense to have a resolution to stop a fairy tale....there must be truth to this.

Deborah K
09-18-2008, 08:19 PM
I wasn't aware of this either. I am new here but not to Ron Paul. I am aware of him talking about a NAFTA Highway and a possible North American Union but I rarely bring it up to people as I can't prove it.

We were talking about the election at work today and someone asked "Why do both of these candidates support drivers licenses for illegal's in this country?"

I felt like saying...."They are going to need people to drive on that highway they are planning that no one talks about...."

Thanks for the posting the House Resolution. It wouldn't make sense to have a resolution to stop a fairy tale....there must be truth to this.

Here's the NAU Timeline: http://www.revolutionmarch.com/images/NAU_timeline_Current.pdf

FindLiberty
09-18-2008, 08:29 PM
'bet cha an Amero that this spells the end for the USD too!