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Catatonic
09-15-2008, 05:16 PM
I have a friend that is an ardent socialist. He's been all for Hillary since last year and has always considered capitalism the root of all evils.

Well, after talking to me about politics and what not for all this time, he finally says to me the other day, "You know, you were right. I really should have voted for Ron Paul".

I don't know, doesn't seem like much on here, but to me this is a HUGE victory. I never thought this guy could ever come around. Backing socialism is almost a nationalistic thing for him (He grew up in Russia).

Now instead of voting Obama he's either going Barr or Baldwin, probably Baldwin.

I guess people can surprise you if you're willing to invest enough time into them.
orafi
09-15-2008, 05:22 PM
Oh, this is a big victory. Hopefully you can use this to help influence more socialists, inside or outside your circle of friends.
AutoDas
09-15-2008, 05:24 PM
aww a nationalist socialist type. All you had to do was point to the Nazi Party or give him The Road to Serfdom to read. Good job.
Highland
09-15-2008, 05:31 PM
Way to go...lighting someones fire is a huge accomplishments!
georgiaboy
09-15-2008, 05:33 PM
congrats! that's a great feeling, for sure.
thehighwaymanq
09-15-2008, 05:50 PM
Great job!

These small personal victories seriously add up. Yeah, its just another person who realized the truth. But if you think about the amount of people on this board, and the amount of people we have talked to. It truly adds up to an extremely large number.
Imperial
09-15-2008, 06:09 PM
Awesome! I had to do the same thing myself. I went from mindless social conservative, to Trotskyist, to two-party duopolist, to Paulite.

That's a huge swing! GJ!
Andrew-Austin
09-15-2008, 07:01 PM
You can call me a conspiracy theorist as long as I can call you a coincidence theorist.

Haha this is off topic, but that is a jolly good quote that I've never heard before.
Conza88
09-15-2008, 07:16 PM
Russia aye?

You know what did it? Ron Paul's defence of Russia - in the Georgian thing.

I guarantee it. And if not; show him that anyway - to SURE him up.! ;)
Catatonic
09-17-2008, 05:07 PM
Haha this is off topic, but that is a jolly good quote that I've never heard before.

I can't claim credit for it, hehe. Not sure who the author is.
Catatonic
09-17-2008, 05:08 PM
Russia aye?

You know what did it? Ron Paul's defence of Russia - in the Georgian thing.

I guarantee it. And if not; show him that anyway - to SURE him up.! ;)

Yeah, Russia. It started with convincing him that America is extremely socialist already. That took a long time. He's a very logical person and once it started settling in that all of his gripes towards American 'capitalism' is really just problems with socialism, he started to come around.

This Georgian situation was just icing on the cake :)
Warrior_of_Freedom
09-18-2008, 02:13 PM
I believe in Russian Communism and I still voted for Ron Paul. Hillary Clinton isn't a socialist, neither is Obama. They are neocon nazis.
A. Havnes
09-18-2008, 03:21 PM
Amazing victory! Maybe he'll join the forums.
mediahasyou
09-18-2008, 04:58 PM
the second recruit feels even better
Conza88
09-18-2008, 09:05 PM
I believe in Russian Communism and I still voted for Ron Paul. Hillary Clinton isn't a socialist, neither is Obama. They are neocon nazis.

Ok, so what was the Soviet Union mate? 97% public owned property... 3% private..

And that 3% provided the country with 25% of it's grain etc...

Go listen to reality over at mises.org. ;)
Warrior_of_Freedom
09-19-2008, 12:45 AM
Ok, so what was the Soviet Union mate? 97% public owned property... 3% private..

And that 3% provided the country with 25% of it's grain etc...

Go listen to reality over at mises.org. ;)

Reality?
Conza88
09-19-2008, 01:34 AM
Reality?

Yeah, the opposite or antonym of "fantasy".

Which is the place you currently reside. Wake the fuck up. ;)
Warrior_of_Freedom
09-19-2008, 02:46 PM
Yeah, the opposite or antonym of "fantasy".

Which is the place you currently reside. Wake the fuck up. ;) I don't know what the fuck you're talking about you Nazi son of a bitch. You fail in your own philosophy, if you want freedom you need to tolerate other peoples opinions as well, so fuck off.
Mahkato
09-19-2008, 02:55 PM
Simmer down, people. This was a good thread.
Ozwest
09-19-2008, 03:03 PM
Russia? Socialism,Trotsky...

Welcome to the world of corporate fascism.

Your government will provide for you.
Warrior_of_Freedom
09-19-2008, 03:11 PM
Russia? Socialism,Trotsky...

Welcome to the world of corporate fascism.

Your government will provide for you.

socialism is not the same thing as communism, you need to brush up on your history and understanding of political systems
Ozwest
09-19-2008, 03:12 PM
Mmmm...

Why all the agro?
Ozwest
09-19-2008, 03:13 PM
socialism is not the same thing as communism, you need to brush up on your history and understanding of political systems

I could never be as clever a you.
AutoDas
09-19-2008, 03:14 PM
socialism is not the same thing as communism, you need to brush up on your history and understanding of political systems


I believe in Russian Communism and I still voted for Ron Paul. Hillary Clinton isn't a socialist, neither is Obama. They are neocon nazis.

:rolleyes:
Warrior_of_Freedom
09-19-2008, 03:28 PM
:rolleyes:

Why are you rolling your eyes? Do you disagree with the fact that capitalism unregulated results in the slavery of the working class by large corporations that grow and the people end up becoming dependant upon? Do you disagree capitalist society is anarchy with a monetary system, the warlord with the most money runs the show?
Ozwest
09-19-2008, 03:35 PM
Why are you rolling your eyes? Do you disagree with the fact that capitalism unregulated results in the slavery of the working class by large corporations that grow and the people end up becoming dependant upon? Do you disagree capitalist society is anarchy with a monetary system, the warlord with the most money runs the show?


Fucking hell!

I feel your pain.:)
AutoDas
09-19-2008, 03:56 PM
Why are you rolling your eyes? Do you disagree with the fact that capitalism unregulated results in the slavery of the working class by large corporations that grow and the people end up becoming dependant upon? Do you disagree capitalist society is anarchy with a monetary system, the warlord with the most money runs the show?

You were contradicting yourself and stop being so presumptuous when you know so little.
Conza88
09-19-2008, 03:56 PM
socialism is not the same thing as communism, you need to brush up on your history and understanding of political systems

Communists advocate international socialism. You dead shit. :D

Please watch to further your education. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SvhKOsn-0AY)

:rolleyes:

"There is no difference between communism and socialism, except in the means of achieving the same ultimate end: communism proposes to enslave men by force, socialism -- by vote. It is merely the difference between murder and suicide." – Ayn Rand, LA Times, 9/2/62

;)