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Psych0t
09-12-2008, 11:08 PM
I think Socialized health care will usher in a new era in medicine and patient treatment. Whether or not this is a good thing is in the eye of the beholder.

There will be hospitals who will accept only non governmental insurance. If Canada's health care system tells us anything, it is how the government will only pay for the bare minimum. Such hospitals will only be available exclusively to insurance holders. Emergency services may or may not be denied for non insurance holders depending on the location and severity of the patient's condition. There will be people who demand freemium (free + premium) healthcare, and it may be divided into a class issue. The government will issue tax breaks to those who continue to pay for insurance. The best doctors in the country will be hand picked to work at such institutions. So if you want the best healthcare, you will have the insurance for it.

Meanwhile, socialized offices will be jam packed with people now willing to use their healthcare; if you got it, then why don't you abuse it? People who get simple colds will start going to the hospital often, and will be prescribed antibiotics instead of TLC. Antibiotics and painkillers will be used for every ache and pain, until a new "cold shot" is developed. It will be a requirement to get certain shots to qualify for this governmental insurance, as it would save money on prescriptions.

SeanEdwards
09-12-2008, 11:15 PM
You might be 100% correct, and yet your argument will fail to be persuasive to the millions of people without any access to affordable healthcare at all. Even shitty socialized medicine is better than none at all.

V3n
09-12-2008, 11:20 PM
I think Socialized healthcare will...

Turn waiting rooms into the BMV.

Turn hospitals into Walter Reed.

Turn anything 'unhealthy' (extreme sports, eating fast food) into illegal activities.

Alex Libman
09-13-2008, 12:30 AM
America is a huge exporter of medical innovation right now, most of which still comes from the private sector. As America goes more socialist, socialist health care programs in other countries will suffer as well.

Dr.3D
09-13-2008, 12:42 AM
Turn waiting rooms into the BMV.

Turn hospitals into Walter Reed.

Turn anything 'unhealthy' (extreme sports, eating fast food) into illegal activities.

Yep, it just gives government more control over everybody.
If the government deems something as unhealthy, then it will be made illegal so the socialized health care system won't have to be burdened by unhealthy lifestyles.

Fat people would be the first to be bitched at and made to do things they never thought the government would make them do.

TER
09-13-2008, 12:45 AM
Fat people would be the first to be bitched at and made to do things they never thought the government would make them do.

Obesity Camp for children. Mandatory.

Dr.3D
09-13-2008, 12:47 AM
Obesity Camp for children. Mandatory.

Heh, how about.... Obesity Camp for fat people. Mandatory. ?

huchahucha
09-13-2008, 01:06 AM
Fat people would be the first to be bitched at and made to do things they never thought the government would make them do.

Yeah, like pay for the nations health care through taxes. Fat people and smokers are your best friends in the brave new world of socialized medicine (pronounced universal healthcare)

TastyWheat
09-13-2008, 02:34 PM
You might be 100% correct, and yet your argument will fail to be persuasive to the millions of people without any access to affordable healthcare at all. Even shitty socialized medicine is better than none at all.
"The inherent vice of capitalism is the unequal sharing of blessings; the inherent virtue of socialism is the equal sharing of miseries."
-Sir Winston Churchill

angelatc
09-13-2008, 02:39 PM
You might be 100% correct, and yet your argument will fail to be persuasive to the millions of people without any access to affordable healthcare at all. Even shitty socialized medicine is better than none at all.

These people don't exist.

constituent
09-13-2008, 04:12 PM
I think socialized healthcare....


can and will be used against me in a court of law?

pacelli
09-13-2008, 04:15 PM
Socialized health care will provide a need for a national health care ID number which has previously been proposed by the US Department of Health & Human Services.

berrybunches
09-13-2008, 04:25 PM
Not being able to afford medical treatment must be a very scary thing indeed, especially when its concerning your children and such. I ods not think most here can fathom what that's like.

The problem with it is it will curtail freedoms as was explained by the other posters.
It will also serve the interests of big pharma and doctors. YOu think tehy want to keep us sick now just wait for socialized medicine.

I really wish people were better than they are, if they were socialized community programs could be a great thing. Unfortunately people suck at being honest so socialized programs end up turning into corrupt mismanaged bureaucracies every time.

ChickenHawk
09-13-2008, 05:07 PM
America is a huge exporter of medical innovation right now, most of which still comes from the private sector. As America goes more socialist, socialist health care programs in other countries will suffer as well.


This is so true. People don't realize how being one of the only countries left with a (relatively) free market health care system we are essentially propping up the socialist systems around the world. The entire world will suffer under socialized health care in the US.

angelatc
09-13-2008, 05:15 PM
Not being able to afford medical treatment must be a very scary thing indeed, especially when its concerning your children and such. I ods not think most here can fathom what that's like..

I've absolutely been poor. There's plenty of help out there.

SeanEdwards
09-13-2008, 05:59 PM
These people don't exist.

In your dreams maybe.

Grimnir Wotansvolk
09-13-2008, 06:51 PM
Sure, government-sponsored healthcare has potential to be efficient, even rewarding. But it falls along the same lines as government-sponsored education. Ultimately, the men with guns get to tell you what to do, what to take, what to believe, what to think.