World Government Through Global Referendum..

[moostraks]

:eek:http://www.voteworldgovernment.org/

From the current stats:"As of September 12, 2008, 10045 people have voted, and so far, the votes are 93.16% in favor of creating the democratic world government. While it seems certain that this global referendum will pass very strongly, at this rate, it will not be completed for many decades. We trust things will speed up soon."

Tptb are working overtime....

[dirknb@hotmail.com]

Voted yes. Just kidding.

[Truth Warrior]

"Democracy is the road to socialism." -- Karl Marx

[Truth Warrior]

Just a few minor Diebold programming tweaks could speed up the process considerably.<IMHO> ;)

Diebold Variations
http://homepage.mac.com/rcareaga/diebold/adworks.htm

[moostraks]

Just a few minor Diebold programming tweaks could speed up the process considerably.<IMHO> ;)

Diebold Variations
http://homepage.mac.com/rcareaga/diebold/adworks.htm

I smell windfall profits for the diebold manufacturers....

[dirknb@hotmail.com]

I just sent them this email:

Some quotes that are relevant to your website:

"A Republic, if you can keep it." - Benjamin Franklin, when asked by a woman while he was leaving the Constitutional Convention what kind of government they had given us.

"To live under the American Constitution is the greatest political privilege that was ever accorded to the human race." - Calvin Coolidge

"The republican is the only form of government which is not eternally at open or secret war with the rights of mankind." - Thomas Jefferson

“We are a Republican Government. Real liberty is never found in despotism or in the extremes of Democracy.” - Alexander Hamilton

"[the framers of the Constitution] intended our government should be a republic, which differs more widely from a democracy than a democracy from a despotism.” - Congressman Fisher Ames

“The United States shall guarantee to every State in this Union a republican form of government.” - from the US Constitutitution

"I pledge allegiance, to the flag, of the United States of America. And to the Republic, for which it stands." - from the Pledge of Allegiance

“The honest and serious student of American history will recall that our Founding Fathers managed to write both the Declaration of Independence and the Constitution without using the term ‘democracy’ even once. No part of any of the existing state Constitutions contains any reference to the word. [The men] who were most influential in the institution and formulation of our government refer to ‘democracy’ only to distinguish it sharply from the republican form of our American Constitutional system.” - Clarence Manion - Dean of Notre Dame Law School 1950's

“Between a balanced republic and a democracy, the difference is like that between order and chaos,” - John Marshall - US Supreme Court Chief Justice

"In questions of power then, let no more be heard of confidence in man, but bind him down from mischief by the chains of the Constitution." - Thomas Jefferson

"Our country's founders cherished liberty, not democracy." - Ron Paul

"Republics decline into democracies and democracies degenerate into despotisms." - Aristotle

“A democracy is nothing more than mob rule, where fifty-one percent of the people may take away the rights of the other forty-nine.” - Thomas Jefferson

“Democracy, in its best state, is but the politics of Bedlam; while kept chained, its thoughts are frantic, but when it breaks loose, it kills the keeper, fires the building, and perishes.” - Fisher Ames

"Liberty has never lasted long in a democracy, nor has it ever ended in anything better than despotism." - Fisher Ames

“Democracy means simply the bludgeoning of the people by the people for the people.” - Oscar Wilde

"Democracy is morose, and runs to anarchy." - Ralph Waldo Emerson

"The world is weary of statesmen whom democracy has degraded into politicians." - Benjamin Disraeli

“Remember, democracy never lasts long. It soon wastes, exhausts and murders itself. There was never a democracy that did not commit suicide.” - John Adams

“The one prevailing evil of democracy is the tyranny of the majority, or rather that party, not always the majority, that succeeds, by force or fraud, in carrying elections.” - Lord Acton

"The evils we experience flow from the excess of democracy. The people do not want virtue, but are the dupes of pretended patriots." - Elbridge Gerry - Massachusetts, Signer of the Declaration of Independence and Member of the Constitutional Convention

“It has been observed that a pure democracy if it were practicable would be the most perfect government. Experience has proved that no position is more false than this. The ancient democracies in which the people themselves deliberated never possessed one good feature of government. Their very character was tyranny; their figure deformity.” - Alexander Hamilton

“Democracies have been found incompatible with personal security or the rights of property; and in general been as short in their lives as they have been violent in their deaths.” - James Madison

“Democracy gives every man the right to be his own oppressor.” - James Russell Lowell

"As I would not be a slave, so I would not be a master. This expresses my idea of democracy." - Abraham Lincoln

“Democracy passes into despotism.” - Plato

“Tyranny naturally arises out of democracy.” - Plato

"Democracy is more cruel than wars or tyrants." - Seneca

“Democracy becomes a government of bullies tempered by editors.” - Ralph Waldo Emerson

"Democracy is, by the nature of it, a self-canceling business: and gives in the long run a net result of zero." - Thomas Carlyle (1795-1881) Scottish Philosopher and Author

“to provide a cure for the evils under which the United States labored; that in tracing these evils to their origin every man had found it in the turbulence and trials of democracy....” - Edmund Randolph - participant in Contstitutional Convention

“I have long been convinced that institutions purely democratic must, sooner or later, destroy liberty or civilization, or both.” - Thomas Babington Macaulay

"A democracy cannot exist as a permanent form of government. It can only exist until the voters discover that they can vote themselves money from the public treasure. From that moment on the majority always votes for the candidates promising the most money from the public treasury, with the result that a democracy always collapses over loose fiscal policy followed by a dictatorship." - Alexander Tyler

"The average age of the world's great civilizations has been two hundred years. These nations have progressed through the following sequence: from bondage to spiritual faith, from spiritual faith to great courage, from courage to liberty, from liberty to abundance, from abundance to selfishness, from selfishness to complacency from complacency to apathy, from apathy to dependency, from dependency back to bondage." - Alexander Tyler

"Democracy - A government of the masses. Authority derived through mass meeting or any other form of “direct expression.” Results in mobocracy. Attitude toward property is communistic — negating property rights. Attitude of the law is that the will of the majority shall regulate, whether it be based upon deliberation or governed by passion, prejudice, and impulse, without restraint or regard to consequences. Results in demagogism, license, agitation, discontent, anarchy. [the framers of the Constitution] made a very marked distinction between a republic and a democracy … and said repeatedly and emphatically that they had formed a republic.” - US Army Training Manual 1928

“Because the United States is a democracy, the majority of the people decide how our Government will be organized and run....” - US Army Training Manual 1952

“You can never have a revolution in order to establish a democracy. You must have a democracy in order to have a revolution.” - G.K. Chesterton

“Democracy is the road to socialism” - Karl Marx

“The first step in the revolution by the working class is to raise the proletariat to the position of ruling class, to win the battle of democracy.” - Karl Marx

"Democracy is indispensable to socialism." - Vladimir Lenin

"The goal of socialism is communism." - Vladimir Lenin

“Taken as a whole, the Chinese revolutionary movement led by the Communist Party embraces the two stages, i.e., the democratic and the socialist revolutions, which are essentially different revolutionary processes, and the second process can be carried through only after the first has been completed. The democratic revolution is the necessary preparation for the socialist revolution, and the socialist revolution is the inevitable sequel to the democratic revolution. The ultimate aim for which all communists strive is to bring about a socialist and communist society.” - Mao Tse-tung

"Whatever the price of the Chinese Revolution, it has obviously succeeded not only in producing more efficient and dedicated administration, but also in fostering high morale and community of purpose. The social experiment in China under Chairman Mao's leadership is one of the most important and successful in human history." - David Rockefeller

“...to make the world safe for democracy” - Woodrow Wilson

“[America] must be the great arsenal of democracy” - Franklin D. Roosevelt

"The experience of democracy is like the experience of life itself-always changing, infinite in its variety, sometimes turbulent and all the more valuable for having been tested by adversity." - Jimmy Carter

"Democracy is worth dying for, because it's the most deeply honorable form of government ever devised by man." - Ronald Reagan

"Great nations of the world are moving toward democracy." - George Bush Sr.

"We must fortify African democracy and peace by launching Radio Democracy for Africa, supporting the transition to democracy now beginning to take place in Nigeria. We must continue to deepen our ties to the Americas and the Caribbean, our common work to educate children, fight drugs, strengthen democracy, and increase trade. And I'd like to say to the Senate, I hope you will say yes to a stronger American democracy in the year 2000." - Bill Clinton

"As the 20th century ended, there were around 120 democracies in the world -- and I can assure you more are on the way." - George W. Bush

"It is no accident that the rise of so many democracies took place in a time when the world's most influential nation was itself a democracy." - George W. Bush

"We must help the reformers of the Middle East as they work for freedom, and strive to build a community of peaceful, democratic nations." - George W. Bush

"Our aim is a democratic peace." - George W. Bush

“The meaning of peace is the absence of opposition to socialism.” - Karl Marx

"I think the important thing is to realize that the establishment of a democracy is sometimes a messy thing and it takes time. Yeah, we've been at it 240 years." - Mike Huckabee

"Now the question is, now that we are there, what should we do in the best interest of the U.S., not only from a standpoint of the necessity of some stable democracy in the Middle East...." - Mike Huckabee

“That does not mean we won't experience the tragedy of the loss of some American lives. We will have an opportunity to instill a democracy in Iraq which will be an example and perhaps force other nations in that region to move in the same direction.” - John McCain

“But we have a war of ideals and ideas, and that is to sell democracy..." - John McCain

"There cannot be true democracy unless all citizens are able to participate fully in the lives of their country." - Hillary Clinton

"We are here to advance the cause of women and to advance the cause of democracy and to make it absolutely clear that the two are inseparable." - Hillary Clinton

"I would say to the new leadership the American people are ready to meet you if you move forward toward the path of democracy." - Hillary Clinton

"We should be more modest in our belief that we can impose democracy on a country through military force." - Barack Obama

"This doesn’t mean abandoning our values and ideals; wherever we can, it’s in our interest to help foster democracy through the diplomatic and economic resources at our disposal." - Barack Obama

"The new world order that is in the making must focus on the creation of a world of democracy, peace and prosperity for all." - Nelson Mandela

“In October 1917 we parted with the Old World, rejecting it once and for all. We are moving toward a new world, the world of Communism. We shall never turn off that road." - Mikhail Gorbachev

"I am a Communist, a convinced Communist! For some that may be a fantasy. But to me it is my main goal." - Mikhail Gorbachev

"Gentlemen, comrades, do not be concerned about all you hear about Glasnost and Perestroika and democracy in the coming years. They are primarily for outward consumption. There will be no significant internal changes in the Soviet Union, other than for cosmetic purposes. Our purpose is to disarm the Americans and let them fall asleep." - Mikhail Gorbachev

“according to Lenin, socialism and democracy are indivisible.... The essence of perestroika lies in the fact that it unites socialism with democracy and revives the Leninist concept of socialist construction both in theory and in practice. We want more socialism and, therefore, more democracy.” - Mikhail Gorbachev

"Every part of our program of perestroika -- and the program as a whole, for that matter -- is fully based on the principle of more socialism and more democracy." - Mikhail Gorbachev

"There is no greater advocate of perestroika than the president of the United States." - George Bush Sr.

"The American people will never knowingly adopt socialism. But, under the name of 'liberalism,' they will adopt every fragment of the socialist program, until one day America will be a socialist nation, without knowing how it happened." - Norman Thomas, former U.S. Socialist Presidential Candidate

"If one understands that socialism is not a share-the-wealth program, but is in reality a method to consolidate and control the wealth, then the seeming paradox of super-rich men promoting socialism becomes no paradox at all. Instead, it becomes logical, even the perfect tool of power-seeking megalomaniacs. Communism, or more accurately, socialism, is not a movement of the downtrodden masses, but of the economic elite." - Gary Allen

"The state does not function as we desired. A man is at the wheel and seems to lead it, but the car does not drive in the desired direction. It moves as another force wishes." - Vladimir Lenin

"Power from any source tends to create an appetite for additional power. It was almost inevitable that the super-rich would one day aspire to control not only their own wealth, but the wealth of the whole world. To achieve this, they were perfectly willing to feed the ambitions of the power-hungry political conspirators who were committed to the overthrow of all existing governments and the establishment of a central worldwide dictatorship." - W. Cleon Skousen

[Truth Warrior]

I smell windfall profits for the diebold manufacturers.... Buy their stock. ;)

[moostraks]

Awesome dirknb!

[Captain America]

so the new trade center is to be called ONE WORLD TRADE CENTER

[gls]

Yeah, I'm not about to give my name, address and date of birth to these idiots so that I can vote no on their worthless petition.

[princessredtights]

barf!

[moostraks]

Yeah, I'm not about to give my name, address and date of birth to these idiots so that I can vote no on their worthless petition.

Another little way to track who to needs to be watched?Hmmm....

[nate895]

Yeah, the reason why it is so high in the yes column is that they're are very few who'd vote "no" who'd give out their personal info. If it came to an official ballot, it'd fail miserably. If global government got more than 15% of the vote, I'd be shocked, even if there was vote fraud.

[dirknb@hotmail.com]

Yeah, the reason why it is so high in the yes column is that they're are very few who'd vote "no" who'd give out their personal info. If it came to an official ballot, it'd fail miserably. If global government got more than 15% of the vote, I'd be shocked, even if there was vote fraud.

Like they're going to verify the info that is entered....a responder doesn't have to enter real info.