Ron Paul Angry And Saddened By Barr.

[CasualApathy]

Update:

I spoke to Don Rasmussen personally just a moment ago and he confirms everything that’s been reported so far. He has never seen Dr. Paul so angry and is saddened by the possible repercussions of Barr’s actions on the freedom movement. Shane Cory did indeed tell Don to go f*ck himself when he asked Shane why he did this, though he admits that Shane also recited a list of perceived grievences, ie; lack of invitations to events, etc., that led to the decision to eschew Ron’s press conference and stage his own. Don also clarified that Barr did agree to attend the press conference and that Russ Verney’s claims otherwise are lies.

We will update on the Bob Barr press conference as more news comes in.

http://www.unitedliberty.org/

[SnappleLlama]

Poor Dr. Paul! :(

Pitchforks and torches, onward to Bob Barr's campaign headquarters!

[freelance]

GOOD! He should be good and angry! He was skewered by attempting to give support to Bob Barr. Dr. Paul has said REPEATEDLY that he would not run as a third-party candidate, and I'm not sure what part of that Bob Barr did not understand. "NO" is a complete sentence.

[Kludge]

Woohoo! Continued campaign failures and in-fighting between campaign representatives! I think I'm beginning to understand political apathy.


This shit is ridiculous.

[ClayTrainor]

I feel bad for Dr. Paul but, you know what?

Barr never amounted to anything in this revolution. Sure people said they were goign to vote for him but only because he was supposedly the "closest" to ron paul.

Ron Paul is the man for the revolution, and we all stand behind him. It is sad to see this conflict and i do hope it's resolved but, we should just forget about Barr.

I hope Barr doesnt take some of our fellow revolutionaries away from us :(

[SLSteven]

“Trickery and treachery are the practices of fools that have not the wits enought to be honest” -- Benjamin Franklin

[Truth Warrior]

Make mine political antipathy. ;)

[CasualApathy]

Woohoo! Continued campaign failures and in-fighting between campaign representatives! I think I'm beginning to understand political apathy.


This shit is ridiculous.

Barr is ridiculous, and feisty debate is a good thing, these forums need the energy. The time that i have experienced the most apathy on these forums has been during the reign of Kludge, Yongrel and other spitballers these past few months.

[TruthisTreason]

Barr never amounted to anything in this revolution. :(

+1

He was a LP pipe dream.

[tropicangela]

Dr. Paul was so looking forward to today.

[voytechs]

Ok, I see we have confirmation of these terrible reports. I'm stunned!

[speciallyblend]

barr and the lp do not exist in my eyes.

[0zzy]

he seemed very passionate about the coference, and angry too. "Please don't" clap for him, first time I ever heard him say something like that and he said it kinda meanish, if he said it to me I'd be like ":,{ im swrry!"

[Sandra]

Stop posting third and fourth hand accounts of something that someone may have just pulled out of their behind please.

[BuddyRey]

Hey, Bob Barr. Guess what? When you backstab and betray Dr. Paul, you're backstabbing and betraying me too. And I don't vote for people who betray those I care about.

Go find yourself another sucker, Barr!

:mad::mad::mad:

[MRoCkEd]

he seemed very passionate about the coference, and angry too. "Please don't" clap for him, first time I ever heard him say something like that and he said it kinda meanish, if he said it to me I'd be like ":,{ im swrry!"
When did he say please don't clap for him? :eek:

[hopeforamerica]

I just watched the youtube of the conference. Did anyone catch that Ron Paul was still hoping the Bob Barr would show up? He said something like "we'll have to see when Bob shows up" He was letting the others speak at that time.

I want to hug Ron Paul today!

[ClayTrainor]

barr and the lp do not exist in my eyes.

This is the best solution.

They dont exist... lets forget about Barr, his party and their comments.... none of this happened, let's keep the movement going!

[Sandra]

Ok, I see we have confirmation of these terrible reports. I'm stunned!


a blog post isn't confirmation.

[Kludge]

Barr is ridiculous, and feisty debate is a good thing, these forums need the energy. The time that i have experienced the most apathy on these forums has been during the reign of Kludge, Yongrel and other spitballers these past few months.

Shit being Barr's campaign management and his own management ;)


Yongrel has kept out of grassroots discussion for about a month and I tend to keep out (in the past couple weeks at least) unless it's batshit crazy.

[CasualApathy]

Shit being Barr's campaign management and his own management ;)


Yongrel has kept out of grassroots discussion for about a month and I tend to keep out (in the past couple weeks at least) unless it's batshit crazy.

I'm not saying you shouldnt post, just that we see the world very differently i guess.

[BenMuldowney]

When did he say please don't clap for him? :eek:


he was in the middle of an important point @ 03:05... he said it nicely and without fanfare. nothing to see here folks.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CjGrsNb5A-M



I just watched the youtube of the conference. Did anyone catch that Ron Paul was still hoping the Bob Barr would show up? He said something like "we'll have to see when Bob shows up" He was letting the others speak at that time.

I want to hug Ron Paul today!
it is so sad to see when he says @ 10:00 'when bob shows up ... in the meantime.' it really makes me despise bob barr.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CjGrsNb5A-M

[RedLightning]

Barr never amounted to anything in this revolution. Sure people said they were goign to vote for him but only because he was supposedly the "closest" to ron paul.



Well I was hoping that Bob Barr would be the candidate to keep the revolution focused and to help keep us organized I was also hoping that he would get a record number of votes for the Libertarian Party which would help them with future ballot access. Bob Barr could have been a great leader for the Liberty Movement; unfortunately he shot himself in the foot. I can actually understand why he didn't appear, since the Green party and the now independent Nader are stinking socialist. However when he already said he would appear and the underhanded way he backed out is unacceptable.

[Theocrat]

Woohoo! Continued campaign failures and in-fighting between campaign representatives! I think I'm beginning to understand political apathy.


This shit is ridiculous.

Kludge, you should make another poll asking who we're going to vote for now. I'm curious to see what the results will show, especially after all this Barr drama that is occurring here presently.

[acptulsa]

Dear Rep. Paul:

Yes, I know you've worked hard to get where you are. Yes, I know you do good things with your committee assignments. Yes, I have taken to heart your message to take back the G.O.P. I am registered Republican for the first time in my life. I have been to conventions. I am doing all I can for Freedom loving Republicans right here. Yes, I understand.

Now please understand my feelings. I voted for you in 1988. I have voted Libertarian for years, but not lately. I don't know what Barr's true motivations are, but I'd like to find out. And I can only think of one way to find out, and I also think it's a great way to keep our momentum alive.

Call the bastard's bluff and agree to replace WAR on the LP vp ticket! Just do it! It's a gamble, but I think it's worth it.

Just my two cents. Hope they haven't been inflated to nothingness...

[amy31416]

Kludge, you should make another poll asking who we're going to vote for now. I'm curious to see what the results will show, especially after all this Barr drama that is occurring here presently.

Someone already did...poke around a bit.

[m72mc]

LOL at Barr he just ensured the destruction of the LP party.

Rest In Peace LP.

[Kludge]

Kludge, you should make another poll asking who we're going to vote for now. I'm curious to see what the results will show, especially after all this Barr drama that is occurring here presently.

I'll wait until Friday when the poll closes.

[nbhadja]

LOL at Barr he just ensured the destruction of the LP party.

Rest In Peace LP.

Excellent news if the LP party dies. Hopefully that means the constitution party will greatly increase then instead of having 2 near similar parties spliting votes.

[Theocrat]

LOL at Barr he just ensured the destruction of the LP party.

Rest In Peace LP.

:D

[Kade]

http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?t=154537

[Menthol Patch]

The LP needs to un-nominate Bob Barr and replace him with another candidate.

[Throwback280s]

It looks like this is deep rooted political jealousy on the part of Barr towards Ron Paul. And I think the Barr campaign felt the concept of standing together with the other third party candidates would make them look bad and in their same league when they want to appear above and beyond.

Sounds like he's tired of being under Ron Paul's shadow and they accidentally snapped and showed their frustrations today.

Unfortunate.

[ClayTrainor]

Well I was hoping that Bob Barr would be the candidate to keep the revolution focused and to help keep us organized I was also hoping that he would get a record number of votes for the Libertarian Party which would help them with future ballot access.


We shared the same hope, although I was always skeptical of Barr due to his, IMO, crappy voting record.



Bob Barr could have been a great leader for the Liberty Movement; unfortunately he shot himself in the foot.


Yup... I was totally willing to forgive him for not showing but, the comments from his Staffers have completely ruined any chance of me ever taking Barr seriously again.



I can actually understand why he didn't appear, since the Green party and the now independent Nader are stinking socialist. However when he already said he would appear and the underhanded way he backed out is unacceptable.

Well, he does try to represent a conservative message so i suppose i could understand him not showing to a degree as well. If he was honest and humble in his approach to Dr. Paul, things would be perceived much differently right now.

[alaric]

Well I was hoping that Bob Barr would be the candidate to keep the revolution focused and to help keep us organized I was also hoping that he would get a record number of votes for the Libertarian Party which would help them with future ballot access. Bob Barr could have been a great leader for the Liberty Movement; unfortunately he shot himself in the foot. I can actually understand why he didn't appear, since the Green party and the now independent Nader are stinking socialist. However when he already said he would appear and the underhanded way he backed out is unacceptable.

I hate to say this, but until Barr comes on board, i'm afraid that those who said he was a planned diversion were right. Stabbed in the back again! Well, at least now the choice between Baldwin and Barr has been made. A unified 3rd party movement must have scared the ptb's too much. They sabotaged the LP, so it's time to support the Constitution party!

[alaric]

The LP needs to un-nominate Bob Barr and replace him with another candidate.

yes, but they should now back Baldwin. That would solve the ballot access problem!

[brandon]

Bob Barr is dead to me.

[hopeforamerica]

It looks like this is deep rooted political jealousy on the part of Barr towards Ron Paul. And I think the Barr campaign felt the concept of standing together with the other third party candidates would make them look bad and in their same league when they want to appear above and beyond.

Sounds like he's tired of being under Ron Paul's shadow and they accidentally snapped and showed their frustrations today.

Unfortunate.

I'd have to disagree. I think it's very fortunate that he showed his true colors for everyone to see.

[Badger Paul]

Why is jealousy one of the seven deadly sins? Well, you see why today.

[SLSteven]

I'd have to disagree. I think it's very fortunate that he showed his true colors for everyone to see.

We are fortunate. If he is a shill, he is not a very good one.

[dawnbt]

Stop posting third and fourth hand accounts of something that someone may have just pulled out of their behind please.

Still in denial, eh?

[The Good Doctor]

Barr must have done this as he was expecting Ron Paul to endorse him.

I can't see why he offered him the VP slot. That is just dumb.


This is the best solution.

They dont exist... lets forget about Barr, his party and their comments.... none of this happened, let's keep the movement going!

[Kludge]

Barr must have done this as he was expecting Ron Paul to endorse him.

I can't see why he offered him the VP slot. That is just dumb.

Ahhhh, I see what may have been the problem now... Thanks.

[dawnbt]

Kludge, you should make another poll asking who we're going to vote for now. I'm curious to see what the results will show, especially after all this Barr drama that is occurring here presently.

http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?t=154468

[Knightskye]

he was in the middle of an important point @ 03:05... he said it nicely and without fanfare. nothing to see here folks.

Bull. He said "This has to change!" And then the audience started applauding.

It wasn't about any specific individual.

[MGreen]

Paul looked extremely re-energized on CNN. This is clearly very important to him, so I'm sure he was sad and angry at Barr.

[pinkmandy]

What a freaking neocon ploy. :mad:

*If* Dr. Paul had known Barr was such a snake he probably would have made a different kind of announcement today re: endorsing Baldwin.

Screw Bob Barr.

[Lovecraftian4Paul]

Barr needs to apologize or be dumped.

[Flash]

Good thing I was never really into Barr. I didnt' like him after he pulled the "I don't want racist votes" stunt. I don't like racism either but anyone should be allowed to vote for anyone they want.

[bojo68]

We are fortunate. If he is a shill, he is not a very good one.

He was a good enough shil to get the(damn fool) libertarians nomination, and now that they can't reverse it and all the filings are in, show himself to be partially the jackass he is.
He effectively silenced and took out the libertarian vote, so while he may not be a good shill, he was good enough.

[bojo68]

Excellent news if the LP party dies. Hopefully that means the constitution party will greatly increase then instead of having 2 near similar parties spliting votes.

In my case it means that I'll have to vote for a socialist, as a theocrat is unacceptable on any level.

[idiom]

Someone managed do piss Ron Paul off? Thats like the second time in two years!!

Last time was when someone asked him "are you saying we should take our marching orders fromt he terrorists?"

"Dr. Paul, Do you think we should support Bob Barr?" "NO!!!"

[DeadtoSin]

In my case it means that I'll have to vote for a socialist, as a theocrat is unacceptable on any level.

Don't say ignorant things. Baldwin isn't a theocrat. Look at his positions rather than the positions of his party.

You are bashing that off of his party. It's like saying that Ron Paul is a warmongering deficit spending sleazebag because the GOP by and large is.

:mad:

[jcarcinogen]

Operation Mockingbir (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Mockingbird)d - CNN hires CIA 'interns' like Cooper Anderson - Barr was CIA for ~9years

Any connections or just coincidences?

[BuddyRey]

Someone managed do piss Ron Paul off? Thats like the second time in two years!!

Last time was when someone asked him "are you saying we should take our marching orders fromt he terrorists?"

"Dr. Paul, Do you think we should support Bob Barr?" "NO!!!"

Well, technically it would be the third time. Remember the McCain headshake?!?!

http://www.paulunteer.com/images/PaulOwnsMcCain.gif

Paul to McCain: "Oh no you DIDN'T!!!"

[idiom]

McCain was just making a novice debate error.

Barr is out to sabotage Ron Paul, as was the moderator.

[Mahkato]

Time to donate to CFL!

[max]

Bob Barr is CIA scum!

[A. Havnes]

Well, I take it that Bob Barr officially stabbed Ron in the back. My vote will probably go to Baldwin. It's just a shame that Ron Paul was so upset.

[demolama]

To me its all about doing what you said you were going to do and be there on time. This is the trait that all gentlemen must adhere to. Bob Barr said he would be at the conference and he didn't show up. That's one social contract he willingly broke. Now who is to say that he won't break another if he were to get into office? The trust is broken over something trivial but reflects his character for something more important. Nothing he does from here on out will regain the trust he broke.

[devil21]

Barr always rubbed me the wrong way and now I see why. Baldwin may have just won my vote. Not 100% sure but it's getting there.

I agree with the earlier poster about Barr being jealous. He really can't get out from RP's shadow. Heck, even on Bill Maher the other night, Barr was immediately followed up by Ron Paul. Guess which person gets remembered?

[idiom]

Guess which person gets remembered?

And youtubed up the wazoo.

[awake]

One word ; Betrayed...

[Original_Intent]

This just confirms my impressions that Barr is an egotistical, self-serving, douchebag.

I would vote for any of the attendees (even Nader, who I have never really cottoned to) over Barr. People dismissing Baldwin as a theocrat don't know Chukc Baldwin. He is in this for the same reason that Ron Paul and most of us here are in it - to save the Republic.

[jcarcinogen]

My first impressions about Barr seem to have been right, and I was chastised for not liking Barr by a lot of people here and I almost was going to vote for him.

He is a plant to hold down the LP during a year it should have had its highest success ever. Barr is CIA, don't trust him.