Nader is more socialist than Obama

[Jeremy]

"Canadian style-healthcare" http://www.votenader.org/issues/single-payer/ (notice he also links to Michael Moore's movie)

"Invest heavily in renewable energies, including solar and wind technologies. Invest in more efficient homes, automobiles, businesses and government facilities." http://www.votenader.org/issues/energy/

Carbon tax http://www.votenader.org/issues/carbon-tax/

WARNING - WILL REPEAL ROBERT TAFT'S LAW http://www.votenader.org/issues/taft-hartley/

A new tax http://www.votenader.org/issues/speculation-tax/

These are the main issues he stresses... there are many others. Now you know why I freaked out when someone said they would vote for him over Barr just because Barr was at an LP press conference. I'd vote him over the 2 majors just because he's independent, but still

[Rhys]

How is that more socialist than Obama? Obama has openly called supporters of the free market "ignorant." On the other hand, Nader just made an appearance with Dr. Paul and agreed to end the fed.

[Jeremy]

How is that more socialist than Obama? Obama has openly called supporters of the free market "ignorant." On the other hand, Nader just made an appearance with Dr. Paul and agreed to end the fed.

Because he is as on-board with universal healthcare as Hillary was

[ClayTrainor]

"Canadian style-healthcare" http://www.votenader.org/issues/single-payer/ (notice he also links to Michael Moore's movie)

"Invest heavily in renewable energies, including solar and wind technologies. Invest in more efficient homes, automobiles, businesses and government facilities." http://www.votenader.org/issues/energy/

Carbon tax http://www.votenader.org/issues/carbon-tax/

WARNING - WILL REPEAL ROBERT TAFT'S LAW http://www.votenader.org/issues/taft-hartley/

A new tax http://www.votenader.org/issues/speculation-tax/

These are the main issues he stresses... there are many others. Now you know why I freaked out when someone said they would vote for him over Barr just because Barr was at an LP press conference. I'd vote him over the 2 majors just because he's independent, but still

I hear ya, Im right on the same page as you with this but,

I like him as a person, and i did enjoy listening to him speak about the constitution this morning.

He is most definitely a pretty hardcore collectivist, but there are ALOT of socialists out there, and it's good to finally have one on our side, who can draw more support to our revolution.

It's more about fighting Globalization than anythign else at this point, IMO

[speciallyblend]

great now storm post pro obama crap geez ,

[RockEnds]

If Nader just jumped on the anti-fed bandwagon, we're doing something right.

[acptulsa]

When do we realize that we need to support anyone who is less crooked than McBama until we can storm the tower? We can sort out the details later. If Nader, Krusty the Klown or whomever can get through the 'glass ceiling' that acts as a barrier, then it will be much easier for other third party candidates to follow.

No, I never liked Nader. I just want a non-Demopublican in office somewhere so we can tell people why they're throwing their votes away on Demopublicans!

[ClayTrainor]

If Nader just jumped on the anti-fed bandwagon, we're doing something right.

+1

[Melissa]

He actually is pretty good on some issues ..war on drugs, I work with so many people this effects it would be awesome to see it actually changed

[nbhadja]

Because he is as on-board with universal healthcare as Hillary was

Nader is a socialist but at least he wants to balance the budget, end the fed and the massive inflation it causes, and change the foreign policy. Obama wants to do none of that.
Obama= POS fascist pro war pro inflation pro federal reserve communust

[Jeremy]

Nader is a socialist but at least he wants to balance the budget, end the fed and the massive inflation it causes, and change the foreign policy. Obama wants to do none of that.
Obama= POS fascist pro war pro inflation pro federal reserve communust

I have never considered liking Obama. I have convinced Obama supporters to vote for someone else. (everyone is an Obama supporter here in CT)

[Truth Warrior]

What are we playing now? The "GREATER of two evils". :p :rolleyes:

[LJHudd]

Ya know... we can't blame Dr. Paul supporters for being impressed by what Nader said today at RP's Press Conference. Some of the things he said were impressive, considering.

I think if Barr had been there and had said some of those same impressive things, we'd be seeing all cheers for Barr on this forum today.

[Truth Warrior]

Ya know... we can't blame Dr. Paul supporters for being impressed by what Nader said today at RP's Press Conference. Some of the things he said were impressive, considering.

I think if Barr had been there and had said some of those same impressive things, we'd be seeing all cheers for Barr on this forum today. Ralph often TALKS a good game until you scratch below the surface and get to know him better.<IMHO> ;)

[itshappening]

Nader is a socialist but at least he's honest about it and believes in the rule of law

[Kade]

"Canadian style-healthcare" http://www.votenader.org/issues/single-payer/ (notice he also links to Michael Moore's movie)

"Invest heavily in renewable energies, including solar and wind technologies. Invest in more efficient homes, automobiles, businesses and government facilities." http://www.votenader.org/issues/energy/

Carbon tax http://www.votenader.org/issues/carbon-tax/

WARNING - WILL REPEAL ROBERT TAFT'S LAW http://www.votenader.org/issues/taft-hartley/

A new tax http://www.votenader.org/issues/speculation-tax/

These are the main issues he stresses... there are many others. Now you know why I freaked out when someone said they would vote for him over Barr just because Barr was at an LP press conference. I'd vote him over the 2 majors just because he's independent, but still

So, what you are saying is that I have to vote for Obama?

[muh_roads]

Nader is a socialist but at least he's honest about it and believes in the rule of law

Nader is for socialism for the individual.

Obama is for socialism for the corporations, as is McCain.


I'm not nuts for Nader but I would take him in a heartbeat if I felt it could shake up the status quo.

[Kade]

Nader is for socialism for the individual.

Obama is for socialism for the corporations, as is McCain.


I'm not nuts for Nader but I would take him in a heartbeat if I felt it could shake up the status quo.


What does that mean?

[ARealConservative]

How is that more socialist than Obama? Obama has openly called supporters of the free market "ignorant." On the other hand, Nader just made an appearance with Dr. Paul and agreed to end the fed.

agreed to investigate the fed, not end the fed.

Nader will never agree to end the Fed.

[ClayTrainor]

agreed to investigate the fed, not end the fed.

Nader will never agree to end the Fed.

After the FED is investigated and exposed, he may change his mind.

[Rhys]

undoing anything Nader does that we don't like will be a hell of a lot easier then undoing the destruction of the world.

[muh_roads]

What does that mean?

It means I despise corporate welfare far more than welfare for the average citizen. It hurts your wallet far more than the neocon republicrat duopoly would have you believe.

[Kade]

It means I despise corporate welfare far more than welfare for the average citizen. It hurts your wallet far more than the neocon republicrat duopoly would have you believe.

Can you please offer me proof that Obama is supportive of Corporate Welfare?

[Rhys]

Can you please offer me proof that Obama is supportive of Corporate Welfare?

yes.

central banking is cooperate welfare, right?

[Kade]

yes.

central banking is cooperate welfare, right?

Are you saying that by not speaking out against Central Banking, he is supporting corporate welfare?

From my understanding, Nader isn't doing that either...


I'm asking nicely for a real world example of Obama supporting Corporate Welfare over Nader, since that was the comparison.

[Jeremy]

Can you please offer me proof that Obama is supportive of Corporate Welfare?


Noting the importance of keeping the American auto industry strong while also reducing oil use in the United States, Obama called for using government money to relieve Detroit automakers of some of their staggering health care obligations if they commit to improving fuel economy by 3 percent a year for 15 years.
http://www.optimist123.com/optimist/2007/01/obamas_bigbusin.html


Over 2 million households are at risk of foreclosure. Millions more have seen their home values plunge. Many Americans are walking away from their homes, which hurts property values for entire neighborhoods and aggravates the credit crisis. To stabilize the housing market and to help bring the foreclosure crisis to an end, I’ve sponsored Senator Chris Dodd’s legislation creating a new FHA housing security program, which will provide meaningful incentives for lenders to buy or refinance existing mortgages. This will allow Americans facing foreclosure to keep their homes at rates that they can afford. Now, Senator McCain argues that government should do nothing to protect borrowers and lenders who’ve made bad decisions or taken on excessive risk.

And on this point I agree. But the Dodd-Frank package is not a bailout for lenders or investors who gambled recklessly; they will take their losses. It’s not a windfall for borrowers, as they will have to share any capital gain. Instead, it offers a responsible and fair way to help bring an end to the foreclosure crisis. It asks both sides to sacrifice, while preventing a long-term collapse that could have enormous ramifications for the most responsible lenders and borrowers, as well as the American people as a whole. That’s what Senator McCain ignores. For homeowners who are victims of fraud, I’ve also proposed a $10 billion foreclosure prevention fund that would help them sell a home that is beyond their means or modify their loan to avoid foreclosure or bankruptcy. It’s also time to amend our bankruptcy laws so families aren’t forced to stick to the terms of a home loan that was predatory or unfair.
http://www.freedomtalks.org/2008/03/27/obama-backs-bailout-measures-for-unfair-mortgages/



With today’s announcement, as well as the discouraging job report Friday, I once again urge the Administration and Senator McCain to drop their opposition to a second stimulus package, and to come together around a package like I have proposed, with immediate relief for families and $50 billion to struggling states so that they don’t have to cut back on health care and education and can rebuild roads and schools and help restore jobs and confidence to our economy.
http://timwhitelistens.blogspot.com/2008/09/mccain-obama-on-bailout.html

[Kade]

http://www.optimist123.com/optimist/2007/01/obamas_bigbusin.html


http://www.freedomtalks.org/2008/03/27/obama-backs-bailout-measures-for-unfair-mortgages/


http://timwhitelistens.blogspot.com/2008/09/mccain-obama-on-bailout.html

Thanks, bro... It appears he is using taxpayers as a shield. I like that he does not want to give the bailout money to the corporate heads though.

Still, I despise corporate welfare more than I despise general welfare, and these are not promising.

[anaconda]

Would Nader appease the military/industrial complex and send troops to terrorize the innocent people of Afghanistan?

Also, given that the corruption in congress is so rampant please remember that Cynthia McKinney's courageous oversight in Congress cost her her job. She is a true statesman.

I think Barr just lost my vote. What a strange and costly mistake he made today by not attending the National Press Club event. Just amazing on so many levels. Talk about showing poor judgment....

[Jeremy]

accidental bump

[Standing Like A Rock]

well right now, and 3d party vote is a good vote. we know that the likely hood of one of them getting elected is next to nothing, so as long as you are not voting for obama or mccain, it doesnt really matter too much.

[ArrestPoliticians]

"Canadian style-healthcare" http://www.votenader.org/issues/single-payer/ (notice he also links to Michael Moore's movie)

"Invest heavily in renewable energies, including solar and wind technologies. Invest in more efficient homes, automobiles, businesses and government facilities." http://www.votenader.org/issues/energy/

Carbon tax http://www.votenader.org/issues/carbon-tax/

WARNING - WILL REPEAL ROBERT TAFT'S LAW http://www.votenader.org/issues/taft-hartley/

A new tax http://www.votenader.org/issues/speculation-tax/

These are the main issues he stresses... there are many others. Now you know why I freaked out when someone said they would vote for him over Barr just because Barr was at an LP press conference. I'd vote him over the 2 majors just because he's independent, but still

There is nothing more socialist than the fed. The FED permeates all aspects of the free market. Nader= against, Obama= for.

Plus, I would take an honest socialist over a fascist like Obama or McCain anyday.

[Malakai]

He agrees with our new 4 point agenda outlined in the press conference today so that puts him miles past mcbama.

The federal reserve system, infringement of liberty, war, spending/deficits. I wouldn't mind a principled socialist like Kuchinich or Nader over the evil guys any day of the week.

[idiom]

If he ran on just the 4 points, and ran with Ron Paul as VP that would be enough for one term and open a new era in American politics.

[Drknows]

accidental bump

Your acting like he is going to get elected if everyone on this forum votes for him.

This is about breaking the two party system.



VOTE FOR NADER-- VOTE FOR BALDWIN.--VOTE FOR BARR --VOTE FOR MCKINNEY


What got me interested in Ron Paul was his foreign policy the other stuff was just icing on the cake. And now four third party candidates have signed on to a good chunk of Ron Pauls message.

I dont agree with nader on everything. but I might as well get interested in someone for 2 months, Baldwin and Barr seem ok also. But Nader gets more TV time and has a base of support.