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jonhowe
09-10-2008, 07:11 AM
"Ron Paul Statement to the National Press Club
September 10th, 2008 by Don Rasmussen

The American Majority

The argument that the two parties should represent opposed ideals and policies, one, perhaps of the Right and the other of the Left, is a foolish idea acceptable only to the doctrinaire and academic thinkers. Instead the two parties should be almost identical, so that the American people can ‘throw the rascals out’ at any election without leading to any profound or extensive shifts in policy.

Carroll Quigley – Author of Tragedy & Hope

The coverage of the presidential election is designed to be a grand distraction. This is not new, but this year, it’s more so than ever.

Pretending that a true difference exists between the two major candidates is a charade of great proportion. Many who help to perpetuate this myth are frequently unaware of what they are doing and believe that significant differences actually do exist. Indeed, on small points there is the appearance of a difference. The real issues, however, are buried in a barrage of miscellaneous nonsense and endless pontifications by robotic pundits hired to perpetuate the myth of a campaign of substance.

The truth is that our two-party system offers no real choice. The real goal of the campaign is to distract people from considering the real issues.

Influential forces, the media, the government, the privileged corporations and moneyed interests see to it that both party’s candidates are acceptable, regardless of the outcome, since they will still be in charge. It’s been that way for a long time. George Wallace was not the first to recognize that there’s “not a dime’s worth of difference” between the two parties. There is, though, a difference between the two major candidates and the candidates on third-party tickets and those running as independents.

The two parties and their candidates have no real disagreements on foreign policy, monetary policy, privacy issues, or the welfare state. They both are willing to abuse the Rule of Law and ignore constitutional restraint on Executive Powers. Neither major party champions free markets and private-property ownership.

Those candidates who represent actual change or disagreement with the status quo are held in check by the two major parties in power, making it very difficult to compete in the pretend democratic process. This is done by making it difficult for third-party candidates to get on the ballots, enter into the debates, raise money, avoid being marginalized, or get fair or actual coverage. A rare celebrity or a wealthy individual can, to a degree, overcome these difficulties.

The system we have today allows a President to be elected by as little as 32% of the American people, with half of those merely voting for the “lesser of two evils”. Therefore, as little as 16% actually vote for a president. No wonder when things go wrong, anger explodes. A recent poll shows that 60% of the American people are not happy with the two major candidates this year.

This system is driven by the conviction that only a major party candidate can win. Voters become convinced that any other vote is a “wasted” vote. It’s time for that conclusion to be challenged and to recognize that the only way not to waste one’s vote is to reject the two establishment candidates and join the majority, once called silent, and allow the voices of the people to be heard.

We cannot expect withdrawal of troops from Iraq or the Middle East with either of the two major candidates. Expect continued involvement in Iran, Iraq, Afghanistan, Pakistan and Georgia. Neither hints of a non-interventionist foreign policy. Do not expect to hear the rejection of the policy of supporting the American world empire. There will be no emphasis in protecting privacy and civil liberties and the constant surveillance of the American people. Do not expect any serious attempt to curtail the rapidly expanding national debt. And certainly, there will be no hint of addressing the Federal Reserve System and its cozy relationship with big banks and international corporations and the politicians.

There is only one way that these issues can get the attention they deserve: the silent majority must become the vocal majority.

This message can be sent to our leaders by not participating in the Great Distraction—the quadrennial campaign and election of an American President without a choice. Just think of how much of an edge a Vice President has in this process, and he or she is picked by a single person—the party’s nominee. This was never intended by the Constitution.

Since a principled non-voter sends a message, we must count them and recognize the message they are sending as well. The non-voters need to hold their own “election” by starting a “League of Non-voters” and explain their principled reasons for opting out of this charade of the presidential elective process. They just might get a bigger membership than anyone would guess.

Write-in votes should not be discouraged, but the electoral officials must be held accountable and make sure the votes are counted. But one must not be naďve and believe that under today’s circumstances one has a chance of accomplishing much by a write-in campaign.

The strongest message can be sent by rejecting the two-party system, which in reality is a one-party system with no possible chance for the changes to occur which are necessary to solve our economic and foreign policy problems. This can be accomplished by voting for one of the non-establishment principled candidates—Baldwin, Barr, McKinney, Nader, and possibly others. (listed alphabetically)

Yes, these individuals do have strong philosophic disagreements on various issues, but they all stand for challenging the status quo—those special interest who control our federal government. And because of this, on the big issues of war, civil liberties, deficits, and the Federal Reserve they have much in common. People will waste their vote in voting for the lesser of two evils. That can’t be stopped overnight, but for us to have an impact we must maximize the total votes of those rejecting the two major candidates.

For me, though, my advice—for what it’s worth—is to vote! Reject the two candidates who demand perpetuation of the status quo and pick one of the alternatives that you have the greatest affinity to, based on the other issues.

A huge vote for those running on principle will be a lot more valuable by sending a message that we’ve had enough and want real change than wasting one’s vote on a supposed lesser of two evils."




"We Agree
September 10th, 2008 by Don Rasmussen

The Republican/Democrat duopoly has, for far too long, ignored the most important issues facing our nation. However, alternate candidates Chuck Baldwin, Cynthia McKinney, and Ralph Nader agree with Ron Paul on four key principles central to the health of our nation. These principles should be key in the considerations of every voter this November and in every election.

We Agree

Foreign Policy: The Iraq War must end as quickly as possible with removal of all our soldiers from the region. We must initiate the return of our soldiers from around the world, including Korea, Japan, Europe and the entire Middle East. We must cease the war propaganda, threats of a blockade and plans for attacks on Iran, nor should we re-ignite the cold war with Russia over Georgia. We must be willing to talk to all countries and offer friendship and trade and travel to all who are willing. We must take off the table the threat of a nuclear first strike against all nations.

Privacy: We must protect the privacy and civil liberties of all persons under US jurisdiction. We must repeal or radically change the Patriot Act, the Military Commissions Act, and the FISA legislation. We must reject the notion and practice of torture, eliminations of habeas corpus, secret tribunals, and secret prisons. We must deny immunity for corporations that spy willingly on the people for the benefit of the government. We must reject the unitary presidency, the illegal use of signing statements and excessive use of executive orders.

The National Debt: We believe that there should be no increase in the national debt. The burden of debt placed on the next generation is unjust and already threatening our economy and the value of our dollar. We must pay our bills as we go along and not unfairly place this burden on a future generation.

The Federal Reserve: We seek a thorough investigation, evaluation and audit of the Federal Reserve System and its cozy relationships with the banking, corporate, and other financial institutions. The arbitrary power to create money and credit out of thin air behind closed doors for the benefit of commercial interests must be ended. There should be no taxpayer bailouts of corporations and no corporate subsidies. Corporations should be aggressively prosecuted for their crimes and frauds."

Johnnybags
09-10-2008, 07:16 AM
but we need these people in debates, we need unification on a platform and 1 candidate to get into the debates with 15 percent. All of em cannot make it. Just unify under Barr and agree to disagree to get into the debates. Obviously Paul is not in it.

SnappleLlama
09-10-2008, 07:18 AM
This is the big announcement?

speciallyblend
09-10-2008, 07:22 AM
look at the brightside, you cannot be let down anymore,it's all bs from here until 2012!!! 3 movements that will be marginalized by each other ,either unify them by 2012 or kiss them all goodbye , same bs, same bs channel in the end same bs...

SnappleLlama
09-10-2008, 07:22 AM
look at the brightside, you cannot be let down anymore,it's all bs from here until 2012!!!

rofl! ;)

Paulitical Correctness
09-10-2008, 07:25 AM
I set myself up the bomb every freakin' time. :(

pacelli
09-10-2008, 07:27 AM
This is the big announcement?

No wonder we can't figure out who is going to broadcast it. It'll be nice to see a new Ron Paul video on you tube though.

speciallyblend
09-10-2008, 07:31 AM
I set myself up the bomb every freakin' time. :(

i love you, why? because i can feel your passion thru your posts, they can never take our passion.
It is time to focus locally and to look for someone else that can take ron paul's message further. I do not think it will be coming from the gop anytime soon, so we must start looking now for 2012 and organize , who will it be? who knows but if the message isn't right or honest ,they sure as hell are not getting my donations.

I will be focusing on change at my local level with or without the lying gop.... in my eyes the lp/cp are just as useless as the gop until they unite


there are plenty of ron paul dems and indys to work with ,stop supporting the big government republicans and dems support the real people not the parties!!!!

notsure
09-10-2008, 07:34 AM
This is the big announcement?

No, this is just the primer.
Announcement isn't till 10.

speciallyblend
09-10-2008, 07:35 AM
No, this is just the primer.
Announcement isn't till 10.

lmfao ,

georgiapeach
09-10-2008, 07:36 AM
Perhaps WE should make an announcement that we will be uniting under a single party, and will be vetting potential candidates for the 2012 elections?

speciallyblend
09-10-2008, 07:46 AM
Perhaps WE should make an announcement that we will be uniting under a single party, and will be vetting potential candidates for the 2012 elections?

would be nice wouldn't it, well i know my donations demand it now,but hey these movements do not need my money they have plenty, better yet maybe they will read our posts and understand we can see bs from a mile away.

I will never settle for less and that is my clear message to the lp/cp/rpr and whoever out there that cares.... we the grassroots are the power ,so stop donating to them until they listen to common sense, unite now period!!!!

very frustrated republican

Menthol Patch
09-10-2008, 07:47 AM
If this is the announcement it is pathetic.

Conza88
09-10-2008, 07:50 AM
No wonder we can't figure out who is going to broadcast it. It'll be nice to see a new Ron Paul video on you tube though.

;) Check in just before the general election... :cool: God fken damn youtube time limits are a pain though.

Paulitical Correctness
09-10-2008, 07:50 AM
i love you, why? because i can feel your passion thru your posts, they can never take our passion.
It is time to focus locally and to look for someone else that can take ron paul's message further. I do not think it will be coming from the gop anytime soon, so we must start looking now for 2012 and organize , who will it be? who knows but if the message isn't right or honest ,they sure as hell are not getting my donations.

I will be focusing on change at my local level with or without the lying gop.... in my eyes the lp/cp are just as useless as the gop until they unite


there are plenty of ron paul dems and indys to work with ,stop supporting the big government republicans and dems support the real people not the parties!!!!

An e-hug for speciallyblend and his consistent optimism, and a +1 for advocating local takebacks. :D

speciallyblend
09-10-2008, 07:50 AM
If this is the announcement it is pathetic.

we need to focus on 2012 and of course our local races, so we all know ventura is on the list for 2012 but we need our grassroots to start looking for the next man to take our message to the next level, it will not be the lp or cp ,so we need to focus on indy i guess
man this is so frustrating, i am just outraged over it all!!!

james1844
09-10-2008, 07:52 AM
There had better be more than this. Just the statement is lame.

Ron Paul Vermont
09-10-2008, 07:59 AM
anyone have a link? Where can I find this~!

acptulsa
09-10-2008, 08:26 AM
Perhaps WE should make an announcement that we will be uniting under a single party, and will be vetting potential candidates for the 2012 elections?

Actions speak louder than words. If we could settle on one this year it would be the worst news in the world as far as TPTB are concerned. We find our strength and they'll hate it. And with good reason.

EastWindRain
09-10-2008, 09:42 AM
Was there a sort of press conference held? With Paul, Baldwin, Nader, McKinney, (Barr?) where they all agreed that the current system is not functional? Is that what basically happened? Did it air live on TV? Will Cpan air something soon? What exactly happened?