Ron Paul - hemp

[Arklatex]

http://www.thehempfactory.com/images/hemp_usages_grn1.gif

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=355F2mD2ZcM

[Matt Collins]

Ron spoke about having a hemp cigarette and to get high off of it the thing would have to be as long as a telephone pole.... ha ha ha ha... I never thought I would hear Ron talk about getting high or smoking a joint that big LOL.

[Joseph Hart]

Ron spoke about having a hemp cigarette and to get high off of it the thing would have to be as long as a telephone pole.... ha ha ha ha... I never thought I would hear Ron talk about getting high or smoking a joint that big LOL.
How would he know ;)
My dream is to smoke a blunt with him.

[Kotin]

How would he know ;)
My dream is to smoke a blunt with him.

I must say that would be heavenly..

[TheTyke]

You should be able to get high with ANYTHING the size of a telephone pole. You might need a good sense of balance or something though...

I wonder if he intended that pun, because that's immediately what came to mind when I heard it.

[humanic]

Ron spoke about having a hemp cigarette and to get high off of it the thing would have to be as long as a telephone pole.... ha ha ha ha... I never thought I would hear Ron talk about getting high or smoking a joint that big LOL.

I was watching the speech on C-Span with my mom when he said that and she busted out laughing.

[Matt Collins]

I was watching the speech on C-Span with my mom when he said that and she busted out laughing.Yeah, I was in row #6 on the floor of the Rally and I never ever thought I would have a mental image of Ron smoking a telephone pole length joint lol:eek::cool:

[Truth Warrior]

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/hemp

It certainly appears that the good doctor is NOT an expert on everything. ;)

[Bruno]

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/hemp

It certainly appears that the good doctor is NOT an expert on everything. ;)

How so? I read the reference, but didn't see anything conflicting with what RP said.

[SnappleLlama]

I'm pretty sure I suggested this awhile back, but I think we should turn out in droves on Capitol Hill with telephone pole-sized hemp cigarettes and publically smoke them with Congressman Paul. The MSM would go for something like that. They'd wedge the story in between coverage of OJ's trial and their expose about the evils of Crocs sandals (and what it means for your family!).

[Truth Warrior]

How so? I read the reference, but didn't see anything conflicting with what RP said.
Did you just speed read it? :rolleyes:

1.Also called Indian hemp (http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=Indian hemp), marijuana. (http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=marijuana) a tall, coarse plant, Cannabis sativa, that is native to Asia but naturalized or cultivated in many parts of the world and is the source of a valuable fiber as well as drugs such as marijuana and hashish. Compare cannabis (http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=cannabis).

[Wendi]

I never thought I would hear Ron talk about getting high or smoking a joint that big LOL.
That was a rather special moment :D

[Bruno]

Did you just speed read it? :rolleyes:

1.Also called Indian hemp (http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=Indian hemp), marijuana. (http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=marijuana) a tall, coarse plant, Cannabis sativa, that is native to Asia but naturalized or cultivated in many parts of the world and is the source of a valuable fiber as well as drugs such as marijuana and hashish. Compare cannabis (http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=cannabis).

Nope. I read that part. ;) But how does that conflict with his statement that you would have to smoke a whole lot of it to get high? :confused:

This dictionary definition also goes to show how much governement propaganda has infiltrated even the meanings of words.

Hemp has been bred specfically for its fiber. In doing so, the THC levels have been reduced so significantly that you can literally smoke loads of it and not get high. Cannibis sativa and cannabis indica, however, have been bred for higher THC levels, taste, growth habits, etc.

Hemp grows all over the state of Iowa, because farmers grew it for the war effort. The seeds have self-propagated ever since 1942. I'll likely see literally thousands of plants today along the corn and bean rows as I head out on the back roads for my job. (maybe I'll snap a few pictures today) Anyone who knows what hemp looks like ignores it completely because they know it causes no harm (and wouldn't even if you could get high from it). I've seen it grow by police stations, schools, shopping malls, etc.

I share the same story as many Iowa youth who see the stuff and wonder if you can smoke it. Twenty years ago, my friends and I made a night run and nabbed a dozen plants or so and hung them in the basement to dry. We cleaned it, ended up with a few pounds, and rolled huge joints. Not one of us felt any effects at all. We instead went and got a case of beer. :)

Bottom line - Hemp is only good for industrial uses, regardless of what some dictionary definition says.

[Truth Warrior]

Nope. I read that part. ;) But how does that conflict with his statement that you would have to smoke a whole lot of it to get high? :confused: That's not quite what he said.<IMHO>

I'd just say that he must have gotten some really "bad shit", Dude. :D

BTW, I'm a non-user. :) Where and when I did, long long ago, it was legal.

[Bruno]

That's not quite what he said.<IMHO>

I'd just say that he must have gotten some really "bad shit", Dude. :D

BTW, I'm a non-user. :) Where and when I did, long long ago, it was legal.

See my above post. His meaning was you could smoke as much as you want and not get high, and I agree with that statement.

The only way around that is to make hash out the hemp. You can take many dozens of plants, roll the flowering buds through your hands, and eventually, with much effort, might get enough to get high. Smoking the buds is futile.

I've legallly smoked in Amerstam on many occasions. It was a feeling of freedom to walk past a police officer while smoking a joint and receive a smiling acknowledgement back. :cool:

I guess I'm somewhat of a cannabis/hemp "Truth Warrior". ;)

[Truth Warrior]

See my above post. His meaning was you could smoke as much as you want and not get high, and I agree with that statement.

The only way around that is to make hash out the hemp. You can take many dozens of plants, roll the flowering buds through your hands, and eventually, with much effort, might get enough to get high. Smoking the buds is futile.

I've legallly smoked in Amerstam on many occasions. It was a feeling of freedom to walk past a police officer while smoking a joint and receive a smiling acknowledgement back. :cool:

I guess I'm somewhat of a cannabis/hemp "Truth Warrior". ;) Different strokes for different folks, perhaps. < ??? > I'll defer to your greater experience.

My very few experiences have been much different. Mostly just laughing my ass off, "munchies" and GREAT sex. :) Then the last time, at a party, everyone just silently sitting around totally absorbed and withdrawn into themselves.

Whee, are we having any fun yet? :D

[jkr]

hemp is our industrial building block.

[Bruno]

hemp is our industrial building block.

Indeed, and we've grown it before in recent U.S. history. see pics on page 3 and some great info from Drew at link below.

http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?t=155436&highlight=hemp

[dannno]

Did you just speed read it? :rolleyes:

1.Also called Indian hemp (http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=Indian hemp), marijuana. (http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=marijuana) a tall, coarse plant, Cannabis sativa, that is native to Asia but naturalized or cultivated in many parts of the world and is the source of a valuable fiber as well as drugs such as marijuana and hashish. Compare cannabis (http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=cannabis).


Hemp is in the family of sativas, but it does not contain the active ingredients that the medicinal type does.

The sativas which do have the medicinal properties gives the user more of a "head high" that does not last quite as long, relatively. Think Colombian Gold, Maui Wowie, Durban Poison, etc. Indicas give more of a body high and lasts longer. Think Kushes and purples.

Most of the popular medicinal strains are a cross between various sativas and indicas, and all of them affect the user differently. Some are good for pain, some increase appetite, some for relaxing, some give you energy, some for depression, etc.. That is why you had such vastly different experiences during your time of using the substance. It's really dependent on the amount of THC and various CBDs.

Now I get to go down to a store and choose which kind I want, it's great :)

[Bruno]

Hemp is in the family of sativas, but it does not contain the active ingredients that the medicinal type does.

The sativas which do have the medicinal properties gives the user more of a "head high" that does not last as long, relatively. Think Colombian Gold, Maui Wowie, Durban Poison, etc. Indicas give more of a body high and lasts longer. Think Kushes and purples.

Most of the popular medicinal strains are a cross between various sativas and indicas, and all of them affect the user differently. Some are good for pain, some increase appetite, some for relaxing, some give you energy, some for depression, etc.. That is why you had such vastly different experiences during your time of using the substance. It's really dependent on the amount of THC and various CBDs.

Now I get to go down to a store and choose which kind I want, it's great :)

lucky duck!. :). But thankfully I don't have any ailments which require me to have a prescription for it, so i consider myself lucky.

[dannno]

lucky duck!. :). But thankfully I don't have any ailments which require me to have a prescription for it, so i consider myself lucky.

Stress is the #1 cause of all illnesses, so in actually I believe everyone has the right to use the plant medicinally.

If you live in California and you have previous medical documentation of just about any condition that benefits from the use of cannabis you are good to go. Just checkout medicannusa.com

I have a friend who has a recommendation for her "women's troubles", so she uses it for the same reason Queen Elizabeth of England did (In 1563 Queen Elizabeth I decreed that land owners with 60 acres or more must grow cannabis or face a £5 fine). My friend had gone to doctors and tried various types of medications for years, and they didn't do the trick for her. My other friend recently had leukemia, and another one of my friends has HIV and takes it to ward off the side effects of his medications. There are a lot of people in California using it for both serious and less serious conditions, and apparently highway deaths in California are at their lowest in history:

http://lakeconews.com/content/view/5455/764/


A collection of studies re: driving under the influence of cannabis:

http://www.cannabisculture.com/articles/1775.html

[Bruno]

Stress is the #1 cause of all illnesses, so in actually I believe everyone has the right to use the plant medicinally.

If you live in California and you have previous medical documentation of just about any condition that benefits from the use of cannabis you are good to go. Just checkout medicannusa.com

I have a friend who has a recommendation for her "women's troubles", so she uses it for the same reason Queen Elizabeth of England did (In 1563 Queen Elizabeth I decreed that land owners with 60 acres or more must grow cannabis or face a £5 fine). My friend had gone to doctors and tried various types of medications for years, and they didn't do the trick for her. My other friend recently had leukemia, and another one of my friends has HIV and takes it to ward off the side effects of his medications. There are a lot of people in California using it for both serious and less serious conditions, and apparently highway deaths in California are at their lowest in history:

http://lakeconews.com/content/view/5455/764/


A collection of studies re: driving under the influence of cannabis:

http://www.cannabisculture.com/articles/1775.html

Thanks, danno. I actually find many reasons that marijuana smoking has helped me in the past. What I meant was that I don't have any serious ailments currently. You should be able to smoke it regardless of "reason" or "cause" in my opinion, as Im' sure you agree.
My dad passed away from leukemia. At the end he lost a bunch of weight due to lack of appetite from his medications. I wish he could have smoked to ease his pain and to give him cravings for food.
The head of Iowa NORML worked for the DOT, and he told me of studies that had shown that pot smokers were actually safer drivers than sober drivers. This may be the study he was referring to.

http://www.iowatelecom.net/~sharkhaus/driving.html

[JRegs85]

How would he know ;)
My dream is to smoke a blunt with him.

Mine too. I think it would be great to blaze with him and discuss the world.

[Imperial]

Hemp is actually more profitable for cloth than alternative energy. That said, I think the government should legalize it.

However, as an alternative energy it would require some kind of incentive by the govt to be worth it. Sorry ya'll.

Check out the high scholl cross-ex debate topic this year, where hemp is a major case area.

[Kotin]

Hemp is actually more profitable for cloth than alternative energy. That said, I think the government should legalize it.

However, as an alternative energy it would require some kind of incentive by the govt to be worth it. Sorry ya'll.

Check out the high scholl cross-ex debate topic this year, where hemp is a major case area.

um, I don't know about that..


a renewable ethanol where you get 200 gallons per acre planted and is not made from a food source.. sorry man but you got it all wrong.

[Imperial]

I didn't say it isn't better than corn ethanol. It is. However, it is more profitable for a farmer to grow it for clothing rather than energy. For a farmer, only civic duty, corporate subsidy, or government subsidy would result in hemp's use.

But still, there is no reason hemp should not be legalized.

[jkr]

it is a local economy

[Joseph Hart]

Mine too. I think it would be great to blaze with him and discuss the world.

We should smoke sometime :P

[dannno]

Imperial, are you or the people you study aware that the growing of hemp is highly regulated in the few countries that do allow it, and therefore the supply is extremely limited? That is why hemp products are so expensive. In a truly free market, hemp would be abundant and there would be many more uses than there are currently. It can be used to make extremely strong plastics and other types of building materials that would help replace fossil fuels.

The plant itself is extremely cheap to grow and has a multitude of uses besides clothes. My favorite shirt is my 50/50 hemp/organic cotton t-shirt, though..much more comfortable than 100% cotton. It also rejuvenates the soil for many types of vegetables, so it is great to rotate into all sorts of food crops and can cut down on chemical fertilizer use. It is 4 times more efficient as far as land-use for making paper than growing trees.

You want to spar high school debate style on this issue or what?? Not that I'd "change your mind" about the legality, but I would like to open your mind to the potential uses ;)

[gjvrieze]

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[Trance Dance Master]

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:DMore pics from my 420 mile bicycle ride still pending.:D

[ValidusCustodiae]

Fun fact: Did you know that some of the receptors in every vertebrate's brain use cannabinoid compounds? This is the reason why smoking or eating cooked marijuana, which contains many cannabinoids and produces many more when heated, gets you high at all. Cannabinoids have a lot to do with your brain telling you it's time to eat. *grins* Small wonder that one of marijuana's medical uses is to restore balance to those who have no appetite. Cannabinoid deficiency leads to appetite loss. It's quite possible that cannabis withdrawal manifests itself chiefly as a lack of appetite, if it occurs at all.

This is a similar concept as to how opiates work in the brain because of the brain's opiate receptors. The respiratory / coughing / pain center of the brain uses these. The nerves in the body constantly send pain signals to the brain, but the endorphins (which are opioids themselves) along with the opiate receptors keep you from ever feeling most of these signals. Opiate withdrawal is extremely painful because chronic use causes the brain to lower its own opiate production. When an addicted person stops taking the drug it takes time for the brain to rebuild its natural store.

Unfortunately because of baseless propaganda many people have a highly distorted view of the effects of drugs. Opiate drugs are legal with a prescription, yet taking too many of them causes your brain to say to your body, "breathing is for squares". The amount of cannabinoids it would take to kill a person is tens of thousands of times more than the amount that it would take to give them a buzz. Both drugs have medical uses, but special interests including the prison industrial complex and every drug dealer in America have a financial stake in keeping marijuana illegal.

And of course the drug companies don't want to lose their monopoly on painkiller production. Another fun fact, did you guys know most of the natural opium that is used to make painkillers comes from Afghanistan?

So does some of the world's best weed, a.k.a. "The Ghani" =)

https://www.wellcoolstuff.com/shivashanti2.jpg

[Trance Dance Master]

Those leaves taste good raw as well. Fun to chew on while riding a bicycle along the Mississippi river.

[Bruno]

Those leaves taste good raw as well. Fun to chew on while riding a bicycle along the Mississippi river.


Thanks to you and VC for sharing the pics. It is more fun with pics. What an "evil weed", huh? The pictures show a beautiful flower. Mother Nature has a way of showing you what should be used as medicine.

Mine are here, though just Iowa hemp.
http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?t=155436&highlight=hemp&page=3