Conza88
09-08-2008, 04:18 AM
I'm looking for resources about them... grass roots only really.
I guess that counts the American Revolution... any good resources?
I am more so looking for the process.
Violent Politics
Posted by Lew Rockwell at September 7, 2008 01:15 PM
Writes Jack Douglas:
Have you read William Polk's new book on VIOLENT POLITICS? The early part is especially good in summing up his argument, built largely out of the best done on guerilla political-warfare over the centuries.
He emphasizes, of course, that THE BATTLE FOR HEARTS AND MINDS IS ABOUT 80% OF THE DETERMINANT OF THE OUTCOME. The one major factor running through all of the big and certainly successful guerilla insurgencies is OPPOSITION TO INVADING OR THREATENING FOREIGNERS. Once that exists as a major and growing factor in the society, the beginning insurgency can begin with pitchforks and hoes and rocks and sticks--and often do. They commonly begin with a tiny group of 25 or so men taking up cultural and material arms against the hated regime. In fact, as we all know, the Sons of Liberty in the early days did not use weapons other than their arms to throw tea in the harbor, etc. That led to British oppressions that MADE IT OBVIOUS THEY WERE FOREIGN OPPRESSORS. THE RED COATS BROKE THE COMMON BOND OF IDENTITY AS "ENGLISHMEN" AND THAT LED THE FARMERS TO PICK UP THEIR PITCHFORKS AND CREAKY MUSKETS FROM BOSTON TO BERGEN COUNTY TO KING'S MOUNTAIN TO....
The Afghan guerillas have helped the Karzai colonial regime to destroy itself among the people and the guerillas are now building their national liberation army, government in exile, etc. This is a guerilla war that is already 95% lost. Now Pakistan is lost for the same reasons and the U.S. daily attacks on women and children among the Pashtun is pushing the hatred of the U.S. above the 95% poll level--if that's even possible. Utterly incredible.
IN THE EXTREME CASE THE FOREIGNER AND HIS COLONIAL PUPPETS MAKE THEMSELVES SO TOTALLY HATED BY THE PEOPLE THAT THEIR EVERY MOVE BECOMES AN OWN GOAL SCORE, A DESTRUCTION OF THEMSELVES, SO THE GUERILLAS ARE BEST OFF LAYING LOW AND ENCOURAGING THEM TO DO MORE OF THE SAME. THE PASHTUN IN PAKISTAN SEEM TO BE DONG THAT--MERELY PUNCHING THE U.S. OR PAKISTAN GOVERNMENT ONCE IN A WHILE TO ELICIT SUICIDAL RESPONES. It doesn't take many weapons when you do that.
Very interesting that Polk gave a talk to the U.S. War College in the early 60's saying the communists had already won the war at this same stage. That led all the colonels and naval captains to furiously attack him and Rostow to call him a Cassandra. Polk said that was ok with him, since Cassandra was right--BEWARE GREEKS BEARING GIFTS! And be sure to look gift horses from enemies in the mouth, I always say.
I think the Russian and Chinese selling of Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac bonds in the past weeks has been one crucial factor in forcing Paulson et al. to officially take over the trillions of shaky debt they hold. [Of course, U.S. Big Banks and major regionals hold the same debt and are not selling it, thus facing bankruptcy as the tsunami of losses grows and that is another pressing reason Paulson has acted.] The Europeans have not sold yet, as far as I know, but people who really hate you behind the smiles are not loyal investors when the crunch comes. as Cassandra would put it.
They don't need to be violent though. Preferably not. But essentially... "the quickest way to bring down a dictatorship is to make them look like one."
I guess that counts the American Revolution... any good resources?
I am more so looking for the process.
Violent Politics
Posted by Lew Rockwell at September 7, 2008 01:15 PM
Writes Jack Douglas:
Have you read William Polk's new book on VIOLENT POLITICS? The early part is especially good in summing up his argument, built largely out of the best done on guerilla political-warfare over the centuries.
He emphasizes, of course, that THE BATTLE FOR HEARTS AND MINDS IS ABOUT 80% OF THE DETERMINANT OF THE OUTCOME. The one major factor running through all of the big and certainly successful guerilla insurgencies is OPPOSITION TO INVADING OR THREATENING FOREIGNERS. Once that exists as a major and growing factor in the society, the beginning insurgency can begin with pitchforks and hoes and rocks and sticks--and often do. They commonly begin with a tiny group of 25 or so men taking up cultural and material arms against the hated regime. In fact, as we all know, the Sons of Liberty in the early days did not use weapons other than their arms to throw tea in the harbor, etc. That led to British oppressions that MADE IT OBVIOUS THEY WERE FOREIGN OPPRESSORS. THE RED COATS BROKE THE COMMON BOND OF IDENTITY AS "ENGLISHMEN" AND THAT LED THE FARMERS TO PICK UP THEIR PITCHFORKS AND CREAKY MUSKETS FROM BOSTON TO BERGEN COUNTY TO KING'S MOUNTAIN TO....
The Afghan guerillas have helped the Karzai colonial regime to destroy itself among the people and the guerillas are now building their national liberation army, government in exile, etc. This is a guerilla war that is already 95% lost. Now Pakistan is lost for the same reasons and the U.S. daily attacks on women and children among the Pashtun is pushing the hatred of the U.S. above the 95% poll level--if that's even possible. Utterly incredible.
IN THE EXTREME CASE THE FOREIGNER AND HIS COLONIAL PUPPETS MAKE THEMSELVES SO TOTALLY HATED BY THE PEOPLE THAT THEIR EVERY MOVE BECOMES AN OWN GOAL SCORE, A DESTRUCTION OF THEMSELVES, SO THE GUERILLAS ARE BEST OFF LAYING LOW AND ENCOURAGING THEM TO DO MORE OF THE SAME. THE PASHTUN IN PAKISTAN SEEM TO BE DONG THAT--MERELY PUNCHING THE U.S. OR PAKISTAN GOVERNMENT ONCE IN A WHILE TO ELICIT SUICIDAL RESPONES. It doesn't take many weapons when you do that.
Very interesting that Polk gave a talk to the U.S. War College in the early 60's saying the communists had already won the war at this same stage. That led all the colonels and naval captains to furiously attack him and Rostow to call him a Cassandra. Polk said that was ok with him, since Cassandra was right--BEWARE GREEKS BEARING GIFTS! And be sure to look gift horses from enemies in the mouth, I always say.
I think the Russian and Chinese selling of Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac bonds in the past weeks has been one crucial factor in forcing Paulson et al. to officially take over the trillions of shaky debt they hold. [Of course, U.S. Big Banks and major regionals hold the same debt and are not selling it, thus facing bankruptcy as the tsunami of losses grows and that is another pressing reason Paulson has acted.] The Europeans have not sold yet, as far as I know, but people who really hate you behind the smiles are not loyal investors when the crunch comes. as Cassandra would put it.
They don't need to be violent though. Preferably not. But essentially... "the quickest way to bring down a dictatorship is to make them look like one."